Comments on: Ivin Viljoen – The Fires of Hell Burn Bright

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:40:24 +0000

In reply to Mark Stephens. Mark, you don't know who Ivin is and yet you audaciously take the liberty to protect him and his false teachings? This is what Paul thinks of him.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Gal 1:8-10)

You are a man-pleaser. No, even better, you are a false-teacher-pleaser.

By: Mark Stephens

Mark Stephens — Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:11:24 +0000

It is too bad that someone whose ministry contains the word lacks so much of it. Don’t know who Ivan is but the completely unchristlike comments are disturbing enough. Please feel free to delete my comment as it was meant only for you anyway unless you repent and if not then you should leave the post up until you do. Epes 4:32, Rom 12:4-6, John 17:11, Luke 1:17

By: Tish Richardson

Tish Richardson — Sat, 06 May 2017 09:31:54 +0000

Our Heavenly Father wants all his children to be saved.
He Loves them all with an abiding love.
Even the disobedient ones.
However it is there choice to come to Him or not.
What is not there choice is their recognition of the son and the saviour Jesus Christ.
Every knees shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
False prophets, evangelist who mislead truth seekers, close up the gates of heaven for those seeking the truth.
This is a sin to Almighty God and cannot be forgiven, and they will pay for the souls of the
ones that they have deceived.

By: Mondo Frazier

Mondo Frazier — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:26:14 +0000

Good job.

This guy alone sounds like he’d keep a small army busy tracking his unbiblical claims.

Enjoyed your article.

God Bless.

By: Rick

Rick — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:00:01 +0000

Exposing false teachers and false doctrine’s is important, it is necessary and as a Pastor you are duty bound to care for your flock. The best way to expose any false doctrines and false teachers is to Preach Jesus Christ. Not a man made Christ, but The Christ of The Bible. To Preach the Cross, Repentance from Sin, Holiness and the Righteousness of Christ as ours and not our own efforts. In the New Testament the Apostles warned about false teachers, they exhorted the Church to walk circumspectly, but the warnings and exhortations were only effective because they Preached Christ! For every exhortation about false teachers there was countless discourses about the true nature of Christ. I absolutely agree that the “modern evangelical movement” is mostly powerless in our generation. But I am careful to make certain that all of my efforts are not wasted on naming names and exposing this heresy or that. I have done so, and will continue to do so at times. But my driving passion is seek Christ as revealed in The Scriptures. It is easy for someone who is not acquainted with Jesus Christ as He Is to be mislead and carried about with all kinds of nonsense. But God’s Elect will not be deceived. Those who are drawn to Christ by The Spirit of God will by no means lose one hair of their heads. I suppose I say all of that to say this. Continue to warn and exhort as you are led by God to do so, always asking the Holy Spirit to help you to examine your motives. But make no mistake, so long as you Preach The Gospel, The Good Old Gospel that NEVER CHANGES nor NEEDS TO for The Author of It is Unchangeable. As long as you preach Christ and The Cross, Repentance from Sin, Godly Sorrow, as opposed to Worldly ” I’m sorry that I got caught” Sorrow. As long as you preach Grace and works produced by Grace and not Human Effort, As long as you preach The Love of God in its proper context, that is Love for God evidenced by Obedience, Love for your Neighbors evidenced by your Love for God and Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as an ever-present Intercessor on behalf of The True Convert. As Long as you preach these things, the wolves will only try to get in, but they will not be able to, because His Sheep hear His Voice. Warn, Exhort, Defend, but above all let our focus not shift to these things, and rather let our focus be Christ and Him Crucified, Raised and Seated at The Right Hand of The Father. God Bless

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:10:28 +0000

Grant…you have answered this well…true love is caring for the well-being of people especially in the area of the soul…sometimes tough love is necessary. Sadly the demonic spirits in the world to-day play on the emotions of sensitive people today and confuse the true meaning of Godly love.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:23:37 +0000

In reply to Grant C.

Grant

What I also wanted to mention was; where is the love in keeping quiet – not for Ivin’s sake but for the sake of the ‘youth’ he is leading to hell. How many people’s lives has he affected with his nonsense. I pray not many. Everyone in this world is so ‘love’ orientated yet are as selfish as can be and could not care about the many unseen victims but will take a stand for the one committing wrong. Unbelievable. Well I suppose that’s what an anti-Christ world is all about – pat on the head for the criminal and a slap on the wrist of the victims.

I would have loved to have heard Paul rebuking people. Everyone on the internet would be hiding under their beds shivering.

By: Grant C

Grant C — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:29:48 +0000

Adannaya It is not acting in love if you allow someone to continue to follow a path which leads to destruction, while remaining silent. I am a parent and I would certainly be accused of not loving my children, if I did not correct them when they went off the path. Very often the kids would be very cross with me for spoiling their fun, but not long thereafter they come to realize that, if I hadn't acted firmly and with authority, they could have been irreparably harmed. By speaking out for the Truth in a Biblical way, by prayerfully trying to show others error by providing Biblical rebuttal, does not win popularity contests for me or any of the regular writers on this blog. By giving many hours, FREELY, in defense of the true Gospel, should indicate caring concerns. If you consider some of the responses and abuse of the Gospel of Jesus on this blog from those who follow false gods and false gospels, it seems clear that the continued response from Discerning The World is done in love. Love is not always a whole lot of pretty little words and gentle answers. All the opponents to the Gospel of Jesus are not babies and Satan certainly uses extreme violence, even to the point of death. Reading through the Apostles Paul's letters will show that he certainly was no softy in his approach to those who defied Christ. You could accuse the writers here of not acting in love if they kept silent about false teachers and false gods. It is precisely because they are applying Biblical standards that they are acting with love. There are not many paths or great highways to God, even though the emergent church will tell you it is really easy. There is only one path: Jesus and the narrow, hard way. Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Don't you think it is important to get that message to the lost as a matter of extreme urgency ?

By: Grant C

Grant C — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:08:36 +0000

It seems almost pointless talking to someone like Ivin, who on the one hand claims to have an intention to serve Jesus Christ, but on the other hand refuses to apply Christian principles.

He displays an inability or unwillingness to accept Biblical doctrine. Everything makes him smile, but he refuses Biblical edification.

It is certainly no joke that he is in a position to influence young people and have some, who could be saved by hearing the true Gospel, lost to an emergent god.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:55:28 +0000

In reply to Adannaya. Adannya Ag, I am tired of answering the same comments over and over again. If you continue to read my website you will find the answer to your question in the comments section. In the meantime we all wait in anticipation for Ivin's story as he said he would provide us with an answer as to why his prophecy failed dismally. In doing so we hope that he wakes up to what has happened to him and comes to true salvation in the One and only living God through His Son Jesus Christ.