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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-487073&quot;&gt;Deje Glassburn&lt;/a&gt;.

Deje Glassburn

You wrote 

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;It’s difficult to read some of the stuff you’re saying DTW.

Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me?

And yeah! the Benny Hinn’s, the Creflo’s Dollar’s, the Joel’s &amp; Joyce’s, the holy Hagin’s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch’s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I’m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God’s infinite agape love He has for me! Who also have had and have the honor and privilege of leading thousands upon thousands of sinners to Christ!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

The Holy Spirit will never convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these false teachers when they have already discredited themselves. 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Brothers and sisters, together follow my example and observe those who live by the pattern we gave you. For there are many, of whom I have often told you, and now tell you even with tears, who live as enemies of the cross of Christ [rejecting and opposing His way of salvation], whose fate is destruction, whose god is their belly [their worldly appetite, their sensuality, their vanity], and &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;whose glory is in their shame&lt;/strong&gt;—who focus their mind on earthly and temporal things. (Philippians 3:17-19 AMP)&lt;/em&gt;

Indeed, God&#039;s love is an infinite agape. That&#039;s why He sends people to warn them of the path they have taken (Proverbs 14:12). It is when you withhold your warnings to them when you DO NOT mirror God&#039;s infinite love.

You wrote:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I’m confident that when they do respond, I’m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another, because Christians can do that.
Respectively&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

This is what God says:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;These men are hidden reefs [elements of great danger to others] in your [a]love feasts when they feast together with you without fear, looking after [only] themselves; [they are like] clouds without water, swept along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted and lifeless; 13 wild waves of the sea, flinging up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of deep darkness has been reserved forever. (Jude 1:12-13).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

[a] Jude 1:12 The early church frequently met together for a communal meal followed by the Lord’s Supper.

You are free and wewlcome to break bread with elements of great danger as much as you want. Remember, however, you will have to give an account of yourself to God for doing so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-487073" >Deje Glassburn</a>.</p>
<p>Deje Glassburn</p>
<p>You wrote </p>
<p><strong><em>It’s difficult to read some of the stuff you’re saying DTW.</p>
<p>Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me?</p>
<p>And yeah! the Benny Hinn’s, the Creflo’s Dollar’s, the Joel’s &#038; Joyce’s, the holy Hagin’s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch’s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I’m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God’s infinite agape love He has for me! Who also have had and have the honor and privilege of leading thousands upon thousands of sinners to Christ!</em></strong></p>
<p>The Holy Spirit will never convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these false teachers when they have already discredited themselves. </p>
<p><em><strong>Brothers and sisters, together follow my example and observe those who live by the pattern we gave you. For there are many, of whom I have often told you, and now tell you even with tears, who live as enemies of the cross of Christ [rejecting and opposing His way of salvation], whose fate is destruction, whose god is their belly [their worldly appetite, their sensuality, their vanity], and </strong><strong>whose glory is in their shame</strong>—who focus their mind on earthly and temporal things. (Philippians 3:17-19 AMP)</em></p>
<p>Indeed, God&#8217;s love is an infinite agape. That&#8217;s why He sends people to warn them of the path they have taken (Proverbs 14:12). It is when you withhold your warnings to them when you DO NOT mirror God&#8217;s infinite love.</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p><em><strong>I’m confident that when they do respond, I’m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another, because Christians can do that.<br />
Respectively</strong></em></p>
<p>This is what God says:</p>
<p><em><strong>These men are hidden reefs [elements of great danger to others] in your [a]love feasts when they feast together with you without fear, looking after [only] themselves; [they are like] clouds without water, swept along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted and lifeless; 13 wild waves of the sea, flinging up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of deep darkness has been reserved forever. (Jude 1:12-13).</strong></em></p>
<p>[a] Jude 1:12 The early church frequently met together for a communal meal followed by the Lord’s Supper.</p>
<p>You are free and wewlcome to break bread with elements of great danger as much as you want. Remember, however, you will have to give an account of yourself to God for doing so.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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Deje Glassburn

For starters. Matthew 18 has nothing to do with correcting false teaching and erroneous doctrine. It concerns brothers who have sinned against one another in some way or another. We are exhorted to &quot;earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.&quot; Jude 1:3. The contention is not to try and find common ground because we all believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Many Jews, among them the historian Josephus, believed in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ but remained unsaved. Roman Catholics believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Are they truly saved?]]></description>
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<p>Deje Glassburn</p>
<p>For starters. Matthew 18 has nothing to do with correcting false teaching and erroneous doctrine. It concerns brothers who have sinned against one another in some way or another. We are exhorted to &#8220;earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.&#8221; Jude 1:3. The contention is not to try and find common ground because we all believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Many Jews, among them the historian Josephus, believed in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ but remained unsaved. Roman Catholics believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Are they truly saved?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Deje Glassburn

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<p>Deje Glassburn</p>
<p>Apology accepted. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Deje Glassburn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a little miffed earlier when I read a few of your posts earlier tonight about false teaching.
I&#039;m sorry for the cruel words on my first post. They are offensive and hurtful words, and I am truly sorry for writing them the way I did.
I obviously, cannot literally take them back, but I can change them.
Please read my second post. 
I toned it down quite a bit!
We all have convictions,  some are more passionate than others!
I too hate false teachers! 
As true brothers and sisters in Christ, we want to protect and defend the infallibility of God&#039;s Word. I think that it is pleasing to a Sovereign God who is infinitely far more above and beyond man&#039;s comprehension.
Here&#039;s the thing though. God doesn&#039;t need our help. His thoughts and ways are not ours. 
And whatever these preachers are preaching, if its not in line with the sound doctrine we&#039;ve been taught, then we are called by God to not only correct and rebuke, but to restore reconcile with love.
Much love!
Again, please forgive my offensive words in my first post, and please read my second post with open arms, because it is with much love and conviction that I write them.
Thank you,

Dejester]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little miffed earlier when I read a few of your posts earlier tonight about false teaching.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry for the cruel words on my first post. They are offensive and hurtful words, and I am truly sorry for writing them the way I did.<br />
I obviously, cannot literally take them back, but I can change them.<br />
Please read my second post.<br />
I toned it down quite a bit!<br />
We all have convictions,  some are more passionate than others!<br />
I too hate false teachers!<br />
As true brothers and sisters in Christ, we want to protect and defend the infallibility of God&#8217;s Word. I think that it is pleasing to a Sovereign God who is infinitely far more above and beyond man&#8217;s comprehension.<br />
Here&#8217;s the thing though. God doesn&#8217;t need our help. His thoughts and ways are not ours.<br />
And whatever these preachers are preaching, if its not in line with the sound doctrine we&#8217;ve been taught, then we are called by God to not only correct and rebuke, but to restore reconcile with love.<br />
Much love!<br />
Again, please forgive my offensive words in my first post, and please read my second post with open arms, because it is with much love and conviction that I write them.<br />
Thank you,</p>
<p>Dejester</p>
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		By: Deje Glassburn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 05:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s difficult to read some of the stuff you&#039;re saying DTW.
Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me? 
And yeah! the Benny Hinn&#039;s, the Creflo&#039;s Dollar&#039;s, the Joel&#039;s &#038; Joyce&#039;s, the holy Hagin&#039;s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch&#039;s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I&#039;m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God&#039;s infinite agape love He has for me! Who also have had and have the honor and privilege of leading thousands upon thousands of sinners to Christ!
You have honestly and humbly admitted earlier that you too are capable of error in some way shape or form. We all are. I raised my hand first!
So please, guilty or not, before you accuse these men and! women, maybe you can read Mathew 18 and follow Jesus&#039; instructions first. And if I was a betting man, I would bet you one hundred pennies that you will get a response from the people who, BTW, aren&#039;t even here to defend for themselves. I&#039;m confident that when they do respond, I&#039;m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another,  because Christians can do that.
Respectively

Dejester]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult to read some of the stuff you&#8217;re saying DTW.<br />
Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me?<br />
And yeah! the Benny Hinn&#8217;s, the Creflo&#8217;s Dollar&#8217;s, the Joel&#8217;s &amp; Joyce&#8217;s, the holy Hagin&#8217;s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch&#8217;s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I&#8217;m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God&#8217;s infinite agape love He has for me! Who also have had and have the honor and privilege of leading thousands upon thousands of sinners to Christ!<br />
You have honestly and humbly admitted earlier that you too are capable of error in some way shape or form. We all are. I raised my hand first!<br />
So please, guilty or not, before you accuse these men and! women, maybe you can read Mathew 18 and follow Jesus&#8217; instructions first. And if I was a betting man, I would bet you one hundred pennies that you will get a response from the people who, BTW, aren&#8217;t even here to defend for themselves. I&#8217;m confident that when they do respond, I&#8217;m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another,  because Christians can do that.<br />
Respectively</p>
<p>Dejester</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 05:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow!
It&#039;s difficult to read the stuff you&#039;re selling! Deb! 
Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me? 
And yeah! the Benny Hinn&#039;s, the Creflo&#039;s Dollar&#039;s, the Joel&#039;s &#038; Joyce&#039;s, the holy Hagin&#039;s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch&#039;s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I&#039;m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God&#039;s infinite agape love He has for me!
You have honestly and humbly admitted earlier that you too are capable of error in some way shape or form.
We all are! Deb!
So, before you jump on your arrogant, pompous, &quot;know it all&quot;, legalistic, self righteous, band wagon, and start accusing men, and! women of their dastardly deeds and then spread it all over your tabloid, maybe you should read Mathew 18 and follow Jesus&#039;s instructions thoroughly! first. And if I was a betting man, I would bet you one hundred pennies that you will get a response from the people who, BTW, aren&#039;t even here to defend for themselves. I&#039;m confident that when they do respond, I&#039;m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another,  because Christians can do that you know??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!<br />
It&#8217;s difficult to read the stuff you&#8217;re selling! Deb!<br />
Did the Holy Spirit truly convict you and instruct you to discredit some of these men, who for decades, have preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified to people like you and me?<br />
And yeah! the Benny Hinn&#8217;s, the Creflo&#8217;s Dollar&#8217;s, the Joel&#8217;s &amp; Joyce&#8217;s, the holy Hagin&#8217;s, and the entire spawn of Paul and Jan Crouch&#8217;s so-called ministry are certainly a given. But a few you have mentioned, and I would like to add, with love, continue to remind me that I&#8217;m still a man in need of a Savior each and everyday of my life! Who also remind me of God&#8217;s infinite agape love He has for me!<br />
You have honestly and humbly admitted earlier that you too are capable of error in some way shape or form.<br />
We all are! Deb!<br />
So, before you jump on your arrogant, pompous, &#8220;know it all&#8221;, legalistic, self righteous, band wagon, and start accusing men, and! women of their dastardly deeds and then spread it all over your tabloid, maybe you should read Mathew 18 and follow Jesus&#8217;s instructions thoroughly! first. And if I was a betting man, I would bet you one hundred pennies that you will get a response from the people who, BTW, aren&#8217;t even here to defend for themselves. I&#8217;m confident that when they do respond, I&#8217;m sure you will all be able to open up with a prayer to the same Jesus, break bread with open hearts and minds, and maybe! even disagree with one another,  because Christians can do that you know??</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-445672&quot;&gt;Bethraham&lt;/a&gt;.

Bethraham

Thank you for your comment Bethraham.  Apparently, actually no, not apparently this is for real, JMA and team have held a youth getaway where they played pagan games.  Google it, it&#039;s a shocker.

I too have an article on the blood of Jesus and it&#039;s application in heaven and what it means for us:  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John MacArthur – Blood of Jesus Liquid / Never applied in Heaven&lt;/a&gt;

Also I ask you to please look into the doctrine of Calvinism, it&#039;s because of the doctrine of Calvinism that JMA and other Calvinists are preaching horrible false teachings.  The basis of it all is the doctrine of Calvinism.  It all starts with prideful Election, thinking God Elected one to be saved before the foundations of time and then others chosen by God to go to hell.

Please read: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/06/23/what-it-really-means-to-be-elected-chosen-and-predestinated-the-biblical-truth/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What it Really Means to be Elected, Chosen, and Predestinated – The Biblical Truth&lt;/a&gt;

Much love from me :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-445672" >Bethraham</a>.</p>
<p>Bethraham</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment Bethraham.  Apparently, actually no, not apparently this is for real, JMA and team have held a youth getaway where they played pagan games.  Google it, it&#8217;s a shocker.</p>
<p>I too have an article on the blood of Jesus and it&#8217;s application in heaven and what it means for us:  <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/"  rel="nofollow">John MacArthur – Blood of Jesus Liquid / Never applied in Heaven</a></p>
<p>Also I ask you to please look into the doctrine of Calvinism, it&#8217;s because of the doctrine of Calvinism that JMA and other Calvinists are preaching horrible false teachings.  The basis of it all is the doctrine of Calvinism.  It all starts with prideful Election, thinking God Elected one to be saved before the foundations of time and then others chosen by God to go to hell.</p>
<p>Please read: <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/06/23/what-it-really-means-to-be-elected-chosen-and-predestinated-the-biblical-truth/"  rel="nofollow">What it Really Means to be Elected, Chosen, and Predestinated – The Biblical Truth</a></p>
<p>Much love from me 🙂</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah
I would like to encourage you in regards to your humility to deal with the realisation about your previous endorsement of John MacArthur. I have not known a lot about him (apart from his reputation as a strong bible teacher) until his recent Strange Fire Conference &#038; Book. I just came across the article by Bob Johnson that eventually lead me to your site.

Apart from the many serious questions raised by Bob Johnson (that will warrant some further investigation and corroboration) - For me the &#039;deal breaker&#039; with John MacArthur is his error in substituting the word &#039;blood&#039; for &#039;death&#039; in the study notes of his 2006 Study Bible. Spurgeon has a great sermon about the need for the shedding of the blood for the remission of sins..... not to mention the &#039;blood&#039; that was put on the door posts by the Jews to protect them from Death in the first Passover.... (Selah)

.... so a word of encouragement to RJ too ..... MacAthur could have some explaining to do at the judgement if he chooses to not take the blood seriously for his own salvation.... so I concur with your line of thinking on that one.

For without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins (Heb 9:22)
http://www.bethraham.com/Without-the-shedding-of-blood-there-is-no-remission-Heb-922/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah<br />
I would like to encourage you in regards to your humility to deal with the realisation about your previous endorsement of John MacArthur. I have not known a lot about him (apart from his reputation as a strong bible teacher) until his recent Strange Fire Conference &amp; Book. I just came across the article by Bob Johnson that eventually lead me to your site.</p>
<p>Apart from the many serious questions raised by Bob Johnson (that will warrant some further investigation and corroboration) &#8211; For me the &#8216;deal breaker&#8217; with John MacArthur is his error in substituting the word &#8216;blood&#8217; for &#8216;death&#8217; in the study notes of his 2006 Study Bible. Spurgeon has a great sermon about the need for the shedding of the blood for the remission of sins&#8230;.. not to mention the &#8216;blood&#8217; that was put on the door posts by the Jews to protect them from Death in the first Passover&#8230;. (Selah)</p>
<p>&#8230;. so a word of encouragement to RJ too &#8230;.. MacAthur could have some explaining to do at the judgement if he chooses to not take the blood seriously for his own salvation&#8230;. so I concur with your line of thinking on that one.</p>
<p>For without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins (Heb 9:22)<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.bethraham.com/Without-the-shedding-of-blood-there-is-no-remission-Heb-922/"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bethraham.com/Without-the-shedding-of-blood-there-is-no-remission-Heb-922/</a></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-445162&quot;&gt;Diana&lt;/a&gt;.

Diana

If you feel you must talk to him about it, then you must. Expect him to get angry with you and don&#039;t be upset by this.  It&#039;s tough when you are trying to tell someone something so important as this and they get angry with you, it&#039;s hurts one&#039;s feeling.  But be strong.  And then yes you have to leave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/false-teachers-what-do-you-do-when/#comment-445162" >Diana</a>.</p>
<p>Diana</p>
<p>If you feel you must talk to him about it, then you must. Expect him to get angry with you and don&#8217;t be upset by this.  It&#8217;s tough when you are trying to tell someone something so important as this and they get angry with you, it&#8217;s hurts one&#8217;s feeling.  But be strong.  And then yes you have to leave.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Deborah, you have just confirmed to me what I was suspecting all along, he is heavily into the occult, but I think he is deceived and doesn&#039;t believe it is occultic what he is teaching and practising. He also preach&#039;s on DNA (I have read your articles on this), that you must empty your mind when listening to God&#039;s voice (also read your articles on this), plus him and his wife &quot;prophesy&quot; inaccurately. Oh my! Now what? I need to seek God and see whether to confront him (but he hasn&#039;t listened to others) or just leave!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Deborah, you have just confirmed to me what I was suspecting all along, he is heavily into the occult, but I think he is deceived and doesn&#8217;t believe it is occultic what he is teaching and practising. He also preach&#8217;s on DNA (I have read your articles on this), that you must empty your mind when listening to God&#8217;s voice (also read your articles on this), plus him and his wife &#8220;prophesy&#8221; inaccurately. Oh my! Now what? I need to seek God and see whether to confront him (but he hasn&#8217;t listened to others) or just leave!?</p>
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