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		By: Martin Horan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s often sad when we&#039;ve liked some Christian writer or preacher then find out that they&#039;re not all they&#039;re cracked up to be. But we have to face it and move on. 
I liked some of C.S. Lewis&#039; writings, especially &lt;em&gt;The Great Divorce&lt;/em&gt; as a piece of literature. It was one of my favourite novels for a while. I thought Lewis&#039; use of imagery and symbolism in it was incredible. So I took his view of hell to be merely metaphorical. Then I started to discover some things in his views that made me uncomfortable. 
When error is error we can&#039;t go along with it and we have to stand against it, much as we hate to. But it&#039;s a reminder that no matter how talented, clever and articulate someone is, it deoesn&#039;t mean they are right. In fact, they can be very wrong and refuse to repent.
As to Billy Graham: Cathy Burns&#039; book &lt;em&gt;Billy Graham and His Friends&lt;/em&gt; is a real shocker. (I&#039;ve given it a write up on Amazon.) It really shows you how far off the wall Graham now is. But I know a lady who didn&#039;t want to hear a word about Cathy Burn&#039;s exposures. Mind you, this lady prays to the Holy Spirit and thinks Benny Hinn is a man of God. (Deep sigh.)
The thing that astonishes me about ecumenics is their attitude towards unbiblical beliefs. The one thing that I find incredibly irritating about them is their attitude towards the Papacy (and I count Graham among them).
Many Catholics, priests included, have come out of the Catholic church with incredible testimonies. The famous Reformers who were burnt at the stake had been Catholic clergymen. They knew what the papacy was historically, doctrinally and politically. Yet we find Protestant ecumenics who think they know better than these Catholics. 
The ecumenics were extremely upset when the present pope made it clear that &lt;em&gt;Unam Sanctum&lt;/em&gt; still stood.
It was these Anglican and other ecumenics who claimed that &lt;em&gt;Unam Sanctum&lt;/em&gt; had been annulled at Vatican II. The Catholic Church never claimed it was. They couldn&#039;t annul it anyway as it was an &quot;infallible&quot; declaration. So Pope John XXIII--the second one; there have been two pope Johns XXIII--had no authority to annul it and he never tried to. This was just the ecumentist dream they wanted to believe that wasn&#039;t based on a single scrap of evidence. Any Catholic who knew Catholic doctrine could have told them that.
When former Catholics, albeit nominal ones, like myself tell them those things they refuse to listen. I wish I knew what makes ecumenists tick--other than their contempt for the Word of God!
That guy in wearing the dog collar in the vid above was awesome. It&#039;s a pity he wasn&#039;t around when Jesus and the apostles were around. He could have put them right on quite a few things! At least he must think he could have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s often sad when we&#8217;ve liked some Christian writer or preacher then find out that they&#8217;re not all they&#8217;re cracked up to be. But we have to face it and move on.<br />
I liked some of C.S. Lewis&#8217; writings, especially <em>The Great Divorce</em> as a piece of literature. It was one of my favourite novels for a while. I thought Lewis&#8217; use of imagery and symbolism in it was incredible. So I took his view of hell to be merely metaphorical. Then I started to discover some things in his views that made me uncomfortable.<br />
When error is error we can&#8217;t go along with it and we have to stand against it, much as we hate to. But it&#8217;s a reminder that no matter how talented, clever and articulate someone is, it deoesn&#8217;t mean they are right. In fact, they can be very wrong and refuse to repent.<br />
As to Billy Graham: Cathy Burns&#8217; book <em>Billy Graham and His Friends</em> is a real shocker. (I&#8217;ve given it a write up on Amazon.) It really shows you how far off the wall Graham now is. But I know a lady who didn&#8217;t want to hear a word about Cathy Burn&#8217;s exposures. Mind you, this lady prays to the Holy Spirit and thinks Benny Hinn is a man of God. (Deep sigh.)<br />
The thing that astonishes me about ecumenics is their attitude towards unbiblical beliefs. The one thing that I find incredibly irritating about them is their attitude towards the Papacy (and I count Graham among them).<br />
Many Catholics, priests included, have come out of the Catholic church with incredible testimonies. The famous Reformers who were burnt at the stake had been Catholic clergymen. They knew what the papacy was historically, doctrinally and politically. Yet we find Protestant ecumenics who think they know better than these Catholics.<br />
The ecumenics were extremely upset when the present pope made it clear that <em>Unam Sanctum</em> still stood.<br />
It was these Anglican and other ecumenics who claimed that <em>Unam Sanctum</em> had been annulled at Vatican II. The Catholic Church never claimed it was. They couldn&#8217;t annul it anyway as it was an &#8220;infallible&#8221; declaration. So Pope John XXIII&#8211;the second one; there have been two pope Johns XXIII&#8211;had no authority to annul it and he never tried to. This was just the ecumentist dream they wanted to believe that wasn&#8217;t based on a single scrap of evidence. Any Catholic who knew Catholic doctrine could have told them that.<br />
When former Catholics, albeit nominal ones, like myself tell them those things they refuse to listen. I wish I knew what makes ecumenists tick&#8211;other than their contempt for the Word of God!<br />
That guy in wearing the dog collar in the vid above was awesome. It&#8217;s a pity he wasn&#8217;t around when Jesus and the apostles were around. He could have put them right on quite a few things! At least he must think he could have.</p>
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		By: Marion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Redeemed (and others)...I would like to share with you what I have just learned this week.  Like you and everyone else in the world, I believed the American government was founded on Judeo-Christian principles (I live in the US).  It&#039;s what we&#039;ve been TAUGHT.  First, I would like to share a very cool Scripture.  &quot;O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited LIES, VANITY, and things wherein there is no profit.&quot; (Jer. 16:19) (caps mine)

I am currently reading a free ebook on line...It is called &quot;The Secret Destiny of America&quot;  here is the link (you have to go back to the contents page because they offer bunny trails at the end of pages, that can be explored later)  

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secret_destinyamerica/secret_destinyamerica01.htm#1.__THE_ORIGIN_OF_THE_DEMOCRATIC_IDEAL_

It is written by Manly P. Hall (an occultist)...before I get lots of flack over this, may I point out that MOST ANY book one would care to read are written by luciferians (whether they realize it or not - even those bearing the name &quot;christian&quot;), being that all those who are not redeemed by the blood atonement of Jesus Christ belong to the &quot;father of lies.&quot;  One note I&#039;d like to make is, I draw the line at reading books allegedly &quot;channeled by spirit guides&quot;, since I believe that is strictly forbidden in Scripture.  This book merely lays out the agenda that was to be realized in America.

Basically, taken from the introductory heading &quot;World democracy was the secret dream of the great classical philosophers.  America was selected to be the site of the philosophical empire.  The brilliant plan of the Ancients has survived to our time, and it will continue to function until the great work is accomplished.&quot;

This is the plan of theosophy, if you&#039;ve looked into that.  (I have a SMALL understanding of many things)  Theosophy&#039;s basic focus is the &quot;brotherhood of man&quot; and the &quot;divinity&quot; of man - basically the ideas of gnosticism, as well; it&#039;s crept in everywhere.  This &quot;democracy,&quot; spoken of in &quot;The Secret Destiny&quot; was to be built upon the ideals of &quot;human equality, human cooperation and freedom of worship.&quot;  All of this has been built upon the utopian ideals of government taught by Greek philosopher Plato, and was to create in this land an empire of &quot;philosophy and science&quot; through universities; where reason reigns and man is &quot;divine.&quot;  There is no room in this plan for Jesus or the Bible - it is not &quot;reasonable.&quot;  (This is also the room of communism, ans well as all the other &quot;isms&quot;)

THAT is what America was based on.  When this info comes to light, all the rest - the statues of gods/godesses in the capital, the markings on buildings, the architecture...makes sense.  A foundation of Judeo-Christian principles does not create such things.  The ideals initially sounds biblical...but THEY ARE NOT. It is a very subtle lie.  Let&#039;s look at them:

lie:  human equality

truth:  all men are created in the image of God, NOT equal and are born into varying states and conditions of life, with unequal talents and abilities, intellect, resources, opportunity, etc.  Women are not equal to men in physical being, ability, gifts, ALTHOUGH equal coheirs IN CHRIST.  But those interested in &quot;human equality&quot; have blurred the gender lines based on &quot;reason&quot; rather than submitting to the revealed will of God.

lie: human cooperation (across the board - no individuality - only the &quot;common good&quot; - that&#039;s a communist term)

truth:  &quot;Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing: and i will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.&quot; (2 Cor 6:14-18)
As a matter of fact, this verse applies to the first lie as well...ALL are not the children of God, and we ARE NOT ALL brothers.  Only those who are &quot;in Christ.&quot;

lie:  freedom of worship

truth: &quot;I am the LORD thy God,...Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.&quot; (Ex. w0: 2a, 3-6)
&quot;And the times of this ignorance God winked at: but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:&quot; (Acts 17:19)
&quot;Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.&quot; (Acts 4:12)

And it will be for these reasons that the people of God will be persecuted.  Believers in the Word of God, and the True and Living God vs. the &quot;common good&quot; reasonable &quot;divine&quot; man...those who would &quot;be as gods,&quot; worshipping the one who &quot;opened their eyes&quot; that they might know &quot;good and evil.&quot;  However...they will call &quot;evil good, and good evil.&quot;

This new land American was to take this &quot;democracy&quot; to the world...so...now, when you hear the words &quot;making the world safe for &#039;democracy&#039;&quot;...you will comprehend the agenda.

I do want to address the voting issue as well.  I believe the idea that we can &quot;make a difference&quot; by voting for the &quot;lesser of two evils&quot; is another lie and illusion.  How does one really determine the &quot;lesser of two evils&quot;...only God can know the heart...and we are presented with a mighty fine &quot;drama.&quot;  Such a vote is STILL a vote for evil.  The Scriptures plainly teach that it is God who puts men on &quot;thrones&quot; and He does so without any help from us.  

&quot;This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.&quot; (Dan. 4:17)

When God calls us out to &quot;be ye separate and touch not the unclean thing,&quot; could this not also apply to politics?  There&#039;s a reason it&#039;s called &quot;dirty politics.&quot;  Jesus, when He was here...the SALT and LIGHT did not entangle himself with politics.  Rather, His response was that we should render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar&#039;s and unto God the things that are God&#039;s.  We are also admonished in Scripture &quot;No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.&quot; (2 Tim. 2:4)

We are commanded two things related to government in Scripture:  1) &quot;I exhort therefore that first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for ALL men; For kings, and for ALL that are in authority: that we may lead a peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;&quot; (1 Tim. 2:1-5)   2)&quot;Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of  God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For ruleers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay you tribute also: for they are God&#039;s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; cusstom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour:&quot; (Rom. 13:1-7)
&quot;Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than man.&quot; (Acts 5:29)

Like I said, Jesus did not entangle Himself in the affairs of this world, but was busy about the Father&#039;s business, and I believe we ought to be also.  Now is the time for prayer, to share the Gospel and make disciples, warn and encourage the flock, and live separated lives in holiness before the Lord, live in the Word that we might give ourselves wholly unto the Lord and maintain the focus of what those things are that He has given us to do...not those we have been told we ought.  Voting is a &quot;civic&quot; duty and not a God mandated duty...let each do as the Lord leads.

I am no Bible teacher, and hopefully am a humble learner from my Lord...I just wanted to share what I had learned, and what I believe the Lord has shown me concerning these things.  I pray they are educational and edifying,, and that perhaps some may be blessed and encouraged to examine what they believe and why, and question the Lord as to what lies you may have unwittingly believed...because &quot;our fathers have inherited lies&quot;...and so have we. (all caps mine for emphasis)

For the love my Lord and Saviour, and of the brethren, Marion]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redeemed (and others)&#8230;I would like to share with you what I have just learned this week.  Like you and everyone else in the world, I believed the American government was founded on Judeo-Christian principles (I live in the US).  It&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve been TAUGHT.  First, I would like to share a very cool Scripture.  &#8220;O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited LIES, VANITY, and things wherein there is no profit.&#8221; (Jer. 16:19) (caps mine)</p>
<p>I am currently reading a free ebook on line&#8230;It is called &#8220;The Secret Destiny of America&#8221;  here is the link (you have to go back to the contents page because they offer bunny trails at the end of pages, that can be explored later)  </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secret_destinyamerica/secret_destinyamerica01.htm#1.__THE_ORIGIN_OF_THE_DEMOCRATIC_IDEAL_"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secret_destinyamerica/secret_destinyamerica01.htm#1.__THE_ORIGIN_OF_THE_DEMOCRATIC_IDEAL_</a></p>
<p>It is written by Manly P. Hall (an occultist)&#8230;before I get lots of flack over this, may I point out that MOST ANY book one would care to read are written by luciferians (whether they realize it or not &#8211; even those bearing the name &#8220;christian&#8221;), being that all those who are not redeemed by the blood atonement of Jesus Christ belong to the &#8220;father of lies.&#8221;  One note I&#8217;d like to make is, I draw the line at reading books allegedly &#8220;channeled by spirit guides&#8221;, since I believe that is strictly forbidden in Scripture.  This book merely lays out the agenda that was to be realized in America.</p>
<p>Basically, taken from the introductory heading &#8220;World democracy was the secret dream of the great classical philosophers.  America was selected to be the site of the philosophical empire.  The brilliant plan of the Ancients has survived to our time, and it will continue to function until the great work is accomplished.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the plan of theosophy, if you&#8217;ve looked into that.  (I have a SMALL understanding of many things)  Theosophy&#8217;s basic focus is the &#8220;brotherhood of man&#8221; and the &#8220;divinity&#8221; of man &#8211; basically the ideas of gnosticism, as well; it&#8217;s crept in everywhere.  This &#8220;democracy,&#8221; spoken of in &#8220;The Secret Destiny&#8221; was to be built upon the ideals of &#8220;human equality, human cooperation and freedom of worship.&#8221;  All of this has been built upon the utopian ideals of government taught by Greek philosopher Plato, and was to create in this land an empire of &#8220;philosophy and science&#8221; through universities; where reason reigns and man is &#8220;divine.&#8221;  There is no room in this plan for Jesus or the Bible &#8211; it is not &#8220;reasonable.&#8221;  (This is also the room of communism, ans well as all the other &#8220;isms&#8221;)</p>
<p>THAT is what America was based on.  When this info comes to light, all the rest &#8211; the statues of gods/godesses in the capital, the markings on buildings, the architecture&#8230;makes sense.  A foundation of Judeo-Christian principles does not create such things.  The ideals initially sounds biblical&#8230;but THEY ARE NOT. It is a very subtle lie.  Let&#8217;s look at them:</p>
<p>lie:  human equality</p>
<p>truth:  all men are created in the image of God, NOT equal and are born into varying states and conditions of life, with unequal talents and abilities, intellect, resources, opportunity, etc.  Women are not equal to men in physical being, ability, gifts, ALTHOUGH equal coheirs IN CHRIST.  But those interested in &#8220;human equality&#8221; have blurred the gender lines based on &#8220;reason&#8221; rather than submitting to the revealed will of God.</p>
<p>lie: human cooperation (across the board &#8211; no individuality &#8211; only the &#8220;common good&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s a communist term)</p>
<p>truth:  &#8220;Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing: and i will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.&#8221; (2 Cor 6:14-18)<br />
As a matter of fact, this verse applies to the first lie as well&#8230;ALL are not the children of God, and we ARE NOT ALL brothers.  Only those who are &#8220;in Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>lie:  freedom of worship</p>
<p>truth: &#8220;I am the LORD thy God,&#8230;Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.&#8221; (Ex. w0: 2a, 3-6)<br />
&#8220;And the times of this ignorance God winked at: but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:&#8221; (Acts 17:19)<br />
&#8220;Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.&#8221; (Acts 4:12)</p>
<p>And it will be for these reasons that the people of God will be persecuted.  Believers in the Word of God, and the True and Living God vs. the &#8220;common good&#8221; reasonable &#8220;divine&#8221; man&#8230;those who would &#8220;be as gods,&#8221; worshipping the one who &#8220;opened their eyes&#8221; that they might know &#8220;good and evil.&#8221;  However&#8230;they will call &#8220;evil good, and good evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>This new land American was to take this &#8220;democracy&#8221; to the world&#8230;so&#8230;now, when you hear the words &#8220;making the world safe for &#8216;democracy'&#8221;&#8230;you will comprehend the agenda.</p>
<p>I do want to address the voting issue as well.  I believe the idea that we can &#8220;make a difference&#8221; by voting for the &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221; is another lie and illusion.  How does one really determine the &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221;&#8230;only God can know the heart&#8230;and we are presented with a mighty fine &#8220;drama.&#8221;  Such a vote is STILL a vote for evil.  The Scriptures plainly teach that it is God who puts men on &#8220;thrones&#8221; and He does so without any help from us.  </p>
<p>&#8220;This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.&#8221; (Dan. 4:17)</p>
<p>When God calls us out to &#8220;be ye separate and touch not the unclean thing,&#8221; could this not also apply to politics?  There&#8217;s a reason it&#8217;s called &#8220;dirty politics.&#8221;  Jesus, when He was here&#8230;the SALT and LIGHT did not entangle himself with politics.  Rather, His response was that we should render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar&#8217;s and unto God the things that are God&#8217;s.  We are also admonished in Scripture &#8220;No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.&#8221; (2 Tim. 2:4)</p>
<p>We are commanded two things related to government in Scripture:  1) &#8220;I exhort therefore that first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for ALL men; For kings, and for ALL that are in authority: that we may lead a peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;&#8221; (1 Tim. 2:1-5)   2)&#8221;Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of  God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For ruleers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay you tribute also: for they are God&#8217;s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; cusstom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour:&#8221; (Rom. 13:1-7)<br />
&#8220;Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than man.&#8221; (Acts 5:29)</p>
<p>Like I said, Jesus did not entangle Himself in the affairs of this world, but was busy about the Father&#8217;s business, and I believe we ought to be also.  Now is the time for prayer, to share the Gospel and make disciples, warn and encourage the flock, and live separated lives in holiness before the Lord, live in the Word that we might give ourselves wholly unto the Lord and maintain the focus of what those things are that He has given us to do&#8230;not those we have been told we ought.  Voting is a &#8220;civic&#8221; duty and not a God mandated duty&#8230;let each do as the Lord leads.</p>
<p>I am no Bible teacher, and hopefully am a humble learner from my Lord&#8230;I just wanted to share what I had learned, and what I believe the Lord has shown me concerning these things.  I pray they are educational and edifying,, and that perhaps some may be blessed and encouraged to examine what they believe and why, and question the Lord as to what lies you may have unwittingly believed&#8230;because &#8220;our fathers have inherited lies&#8221;&#8230;and so have we. (all caps mine for emphasis)</p>
<p>For the love my Lord and Saviour, and of the brethren, Marion</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After I commented I checked the link given. It is not surprising that the BGEA would back down on Mormonism because Graham has always been ecumenical. Compromise unchecked always escalates. If Graham really valued the truth of the Gospel he would have been concerned about Mr. Romney&#039;s eternal destiny regardless of his proper stance on the sanctity of marriage. Partly due to Mr. Graham&#039;s tolerance of false doctrine and mixing truth and error and not using his great influence for truth, we find ourselves in the situation that we are facing today. Yes, we are being set up for a one-world religion, no doubt, but these seeds have been planted long ago and have been slowly germinating and soon will come to full bloom. 

Now the remnant that sees the truth must determine how best to redeem the time. Electing the lesser of the evils will allow more time to reach more lost souls. The Gospel is still going out although quite limited. Until in His perfect timing, God closes the door on the Church Age, we must occupy and do what we can to snatch some from the fire and also as this blog does, alert and awaken Christians to be about our Father&#039;s business. Yes, a Mormon President will give credibility to Mormonism, but there are many Mormons in public office already and they have every right as any other citizen. The Church must be the Church and stand on the truth in order to be salt and light, but that doesn&#039;t happen in the apostasy of our time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I commented I checked the link given. It is not surprising that the BGEA would back down on Mormonism because Graham has always been ecumenical. Compromise unchecked always escalates. If Graham really valued the truth of the Gospel he would have been concerned about Mr. Romney&#8217;s eternal destiny regardless of his proper stance on the sanctity of marriage. Partly due to Mr. Graham&#8217;s tolerance of false doctrine and mixing truth and error and not using his great influence for truth, we find ourselves in the situation that we are facing today. Yes, we are being set up for a one-world religion, no doubt, but these seeds have been planted long ago and have been slowly germinating and soon will come to full bloom. </p>
<p>Now the remnant that sees the truth must determine how best to redeem the time. Electing the lesser of the evils will allow more time to reach more lost souls. The Gospel is still going out although quite limited. Until in His perfect timing, God closes the door on the Church Age, we must occupy and do what we can to snatch some from the fire and also as this blog does, alert and awaken Christians to be about our Father&#8217;s business. Yes, a Mormon President will give credibility to Mormonism, but there are many Mormons in public office already and they have every right as any other citizen. The Church must be the Church and stand on the truth in order to be salt and light, but that doesn&#8217;t happen in the apostasy of our time.</p>
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		By: Redeemed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Redeemed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In regards to the U.S. election, there is one candidate who has his horns showing, and the other is an angel of light. The U.S. is a secular nation, not a Christian nation. Just look at the Masonic roots that are evident on the currency and configuration of D.C. George Washington was a Freemason as were others of the founders or they were Deists who did not believe in Jesus Christ. However, the government was based on Judeo-Christian principles and freedom of religion. David Barton and others have misled Christians down a patriotic path that leads to making an idol out of the U.S. I would be just as concerned about Glenn Beck who has many Christian followers who are convinced that because he says Jesus is his Savior that he is a Christian. They are ignorant of exactly what Mormons believe and are willing to believe a lie. Then there are people like Pastor John Hagee who gives up his pulpit to Beck to share his delusions with his flock and other churches who have invited Beck to speak.   

That means that a member of any religion can run for office. People who are concerned about a Mormon should be just as concerned about his running mate who is Roman Catholic. Both are cults. The U.S. has never had a true, valid born-again believer get to high office because they have to conpromise with so many to get there. The Bushes were Skull &#038; Bones, a secret society. Christians who say they are not going to vote are deluding themselves. There has ALWAYS been a choice between the lesser of two evils. 

The choice is clear in this election. Every citizen will cast a vote whether or not they go to the polls. Not voting will support the greater of the evils. One choice will continue the fast track downward and the other will at least slow it down and buy more time to share the Gospel, God&#039;s truth. That is where the power is, not in the words of man. How many Christians witness to Mormons or Roman Catholics? We can acknowledge that there are sincere, moral people in false religions and have a rightful place in government. The U.S. glories heroes who were spiritists - Abraham Lincoln - and others who were not believers. Since when is this the criteria for office? The Church is to do the business of the Church, obeying the mandate given by the Lord Jesus Christ - the Great Commission. God&#039;s judgment will fall first at the door of the Church because it is our responsiblity to be salt and light. 

One last note - there is no DOCUMENTED proof that Billy Graham was a Freemason. There are rumors to that effect, but there is no proof. He is an ecumenist and a double-minded man and that is quite enough to discredit him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the U.S. election, there is one candidate who has his horns showing, and the other is an angel of light. The U.S. is a secular nation, not a Christian nation. Just look at the Masonic roots that are evident on the currency and configuration of D.C. George Washington was a Freemason as were others of the founders or they were Deists who did not believe in Jesus Christ. However, the government was based on Judeo-Christian principles and freedom of religion. David Barton and others have misled Christians down a patriotic path that leads to making an idol out of the U.S. I would be just as concerned about Glenn Beck who has many Christian followers who are convinced that because he says Jesus is his Savior that he is a Christian. They are ignorant of exactly what Mormons believe and are willing to believe a lie. Then there are people like Pastor John Hagee who gives up his pulpit to Beck to share his delusions with his flock and other churches who have invited Beck to speak.   </p>
<p>That means that a member of any religion can run for office. People who are concerned about a Mormon should be just as concerned about his running mate who is Roman Catholic. Both are cults. The U.S. has never had a true, valid born-again believer get to high office because they have to conpromise with so many to get there. The Bushes were Skull &amp; Bones, a secret society. Christians who say they are not going to vote are deluding themselves. There has ALWAYS been a choice between the lesser of two evils. </p>
<p>The choice is clear in this election. Every citizen will cast a vote whether or not they go to the polls. Not voting will support the greater of the evils. One choice will continue the fast track downward and the other will at least slow it down and buy more time to share the Gospel, God&#8217;s truth. That is where the power is, not in the words of man. How many Christians witness to Mormons or Roman Catholics? We can acknowledge that there are sincere, moral people in false religions and have a rightful place in government. The U.S. glories heroes who were spiritists &#8211; Abraham Lincoln &#8211; and others who were not believers. Since when is this the criteria for office? The Church is to do the business of the Church, obeying the mandate given by the Lord Jesus Christ &#8211; the Great Commission. God&#8217;s judgment will fall first at the door of the Church because it is our responsiblity to be salt and light. </p>
<p>One last note &#8211; there is no DOCUMENTED proof that Billy Graham was a Freemason. There are rumors to that effect, but there is no proof. He is an ecumenist and a double-minded man and that is quite enough to discredit him.</p>
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		By: Myfanwy Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debs, not sure where you would like this posted..if you want to post it at all. A good friend of mine sent this to me.

Most Christians don&#039;t know that Billy Graham is a 33rd degree Mason among other things. Billy Graham befriended Pope John Paul the II, calling him a brother and a great evangelist. For those who aren&#039;t aware the Pope, and whoever it is that sits in that position is an antichrist and servant of perdition. 

This morning I noticed still many Christians giving their support for Mitt Romney even though he is a devout Mormon. Little do they realize that if he does get elected he&#039;s only going to serve as a champion for that false religion. Yeah, it was hard preaching to them when they first came out, imagine now with Mitt in charge? Mormons will solidify themselves into perdition and walk around proud and tall and keep spreading their lie world-wide. 

Well again, here we see Billy Graham helping lead the way for the One World False Church already in place, breaking down walls and uniting in error. This is the goal of Satan, to unite all the world religions into one, so your faith however false it may be is accepted as good and ruled by the final Antichrist when he is revealed in due time.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/billy-grahams-group-removes-mormon-cult-reference-from-website-after-romney-meeting/?hpt=hp_t2

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debs, not sure where you would like this posted..if you want to post it at all. A good friend of mine sent this to me.</p>
<p>Most Christians don&#8217;t know that Billy Graham is a 33rd degree Mason among other things. Billy Graham befriended Pope John Paul the II, calling him a brother and a great evangelist. For those who aren&#8217;t aware the Pope, and whoever it is that sits in that position is an antichrist and servant of perdition. </p>
<p>This morning I noticed still many Christians giving their support for Mitt Romney even though he is a devout Mormon. Little do they realize that if he does get elected he&#8217;s only going to serve as a champion for that false religion. Yeah, it was hard preaching to them when they first came out, imagine now with Mitt in charge? Mormons will solidify themselves into perdition and walk around proud and tall and keep spreading their lie world-wide. </p>
<p>Well again, here we see Billy Graham helping lead the way for the One World False Church already in place, breaking down walls and uniting in error. This is the goal of Satan, to unite all the world religions into one, so your faith however false it may be is accepted as good and ruled by the final Antichrist when he is revealed in due time.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/billy-grahams-group-removes-mormon-cult-reference-from-website-after-romney-meeting/?hpt=hp_t2"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/billy-grahams-group-removes-mormon-cult-reference-from-website-after-romney-meeting/?hpt=hp_t2</a></p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Calvary Chapels quote Augustine (Laurie did that at the most recent pastor&#039;s conference a couple weeks ago), they exalt CS Lewis, and they will get in bed with anyone, like they did with the Promise Keepers and TBN.  To argue that a few scattered around out there might still be faithful to the Bible alone, is to miss the point.  Those that founded the CC thing, are ecumenicalists, and have always been so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calvary Chapels quote Augustine (Laurie did that at the most recent pastor&#8217;s conference a couple weeks ago), they exalt CS Lewis, and they will get in bed with anyone, like they did with the Promise Keepers and TBN.  To argue that a few scattered around out there might still be faithful to the Bible alone, is to miss the point.  Those that founded the CC thing, are ecumenicalists, and have always been so.</p>
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		By: estelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[estelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[deleted - not interested in nutcase comments by people infatuated with Rebecca Brown]]]></description>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/29/the-new-evangelical-evil-fit-for-a-new-dark-age/#comment-215999&quot;&gt;Michele&lt;/a&gt;.

Michele

There is a massive row going on re bible translations, you can read my article on that here :) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/08/13/what-is-kjv-only/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/29/the-new-evangelical-evil-fit-for-a-new-dark-age/#comment-215999" >Michele</a>.</p>
<p>Michele</p>
<p>There is a massive row going on re bible translations, you can read my article on that here 🙂 <a href="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/08/13/what-is-kjv-only/"  rel="ugc">http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/08/13/what-is-kjv-only/</a></p>
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		By: Michele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting such an informative and therough article. I am inspired to remove the books and music from my home that teach these non-biblical philosophys, and am greatful to God for his guidance and promptings troughout my life. This article brings me to say: &quot;Ah, is that why I felt that way?&quot; about many of the teachings I have encountered over the years. One question though: Any recommendations for a decent bible translation? I&#039;ve been an NIV&#039;er for decades, and find the KJV like walking through two feet of snow. Also, I hear King James himself was no one to emulate. So whats the best one can do for an english version? New American Standard, perhaps?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting such an informative and therough article. I am inspired to remove the books and music from my home that teach these non-biblical philosophys, and am greatful to God for his guidance and promptings troughout my life. This article brings me to say: &#8220;Ah, is that why I felt that way?&#8221; about many of the teachings I have encountered over the years. One question though: Any recommendations for a decent bible translation? I&#8217;ve been an NIV&#8217;er for decades, and find the KJV like walking through two feet of snow. Also, I hear King James himself was no one to emulate. So whats the best one can do for an english version? New American Standard, perhaps?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/29/the-new-evangelical-evil-fit-for-a-new-dark-age/#comment-154847&quot;&gt;Matty&lt;/a&gt;.

Matty

&#062;&#062;  I’m not a believer and NOTHING on this site has caused me to think any differently.

That&#039;s because you are not &lt;em&gt;interested in believing.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/29/the-new-evangelical-evil-fit-for-a-new-dark-age/#comment-154847" >Matty</a>.</p>
<p>Matty</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  I’m not a believer and NOTHING on this site has caused me to think any differently.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because you are not <em>interested in believing.</em></p>
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