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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Die Afrikaner volk (Boerevolk) het nog altyd kinders wat met die helm gebore is so te sê aanbid omdat hulle kwansuis &#039;n spesiale gawe van God ontvang het om in die toekoms te kan sien en te voorspel. Hier&#039;s &#039;n insiggewende artikel wat meer insae gee oor Siener van Rensburg se sg. gawe van God.

http://versoening.weebly.com/1/post/2010/11/siener-van-rensburg-profeet-van-god-of-misleide-man.html

Lees dit asseblief met onderskeiding. Ek stem bv. nie saam met die skrywer oor sy siening rondom Angus Buchan nie. Die res wat hy oor Siener van Rensburg skryf, is in die kol. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Afrikaner volk (Boerevolk) het nog altyd kinders wat met die helm gebore is so te sê aanbid omdat hulle kwansuis &#8216;n spesiale gawe van God ontvang het om in die toekoms te kan sien en te voorspel. Hier&#8217;s &#8216;n insiggewende artikel wat meer insae gee oor Siener van Rensburg se sg. gawe van God.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://versoening.weebly.com/1/post/2010/11/siener-van-rensburg-profeet-van-god-of-misleide-man.html"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://versoening.weebly.com/1/post/2010/11/siener-van-rensburg-profeet-van-god-of-misleide-man.html</a></p>
<p>Lees dit asseblief met onderskeiding. Ek stem bv. nie saam met die skrywer oor sy siening rondom Angus Buchan nie. Die res wat hy oor Siener van Rensburg skryf, is in die kol. </p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 07:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-239279&quot;&gt;Greg&lt;/a&gt;.

Greg

No problem, I will do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-239279" >Greg</a>.</p>
<p>Greg</p>
<p>No problem, I will do that.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 03:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Timothy &#038; Deb:

   Hi Timothy,

     I may have asked you this before on another site (ETPW)...and it is that I would love to chat with you privately about some issues in regard to all of the above. I would be quite happy for Deb to give you my e-mail address and maybe you could drop me a line. 

Deb: It is fine with me if you pass on my E-mail address to Timothy.

 Greg..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy &amp; Deb:</p>
<p>   Hi Timothy,</p>
<p>     I may have asked you this before on another site (ETPW)&#8230;and it is that I would love to chat with you privately about some issues in regard to all of the above. I would be quite happy for Deb to give you my e-mail address and maybe you could drop me a line. </p>
<p>Deb: It is fine with me if you pass on my E-mail address to Timothy.</p>
<p> Greg..</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 08:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-239267&quot;&gt;Timothy&lt;/a&gt;.

Timothy

Oh Timothy, what a story.  I feel for you.  Definitely ROTTEN to the core.  I pray that your wife&#039;s eyes are opened to the truth, that she is caught up in a cult.  I pray that you are there to catch her when she falls out of this horrible mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-239267" >Timothy</a>.</p>
<p>Timothy</p>
<p>Oh Timothy, what a story.  I feel for you.  Definitely ROTTEN to the core.  I pray that your wife&#8217;s eyes are opened to the truth, that she is caught up in a cult.  I pray that you are there to catch her when she falls out of this horrible mess.</p>
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		By: Timothy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 06:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have not been reading this site for a while so I enjoyed catching up. The first shock was to see the face of Apostle David vonandersec, the crown prince son, writing as JOHAN??? accusing Greg of chasing after a certain blond lady. The truth is that David got married to the cult publisher Lucinda, (the Mossel Bay trumpet lady) as soon as her divorce got through. This marriage lasted days. Then Apostle David got married to a certain blond lady which sold her soul to the group and was titled Evangelist Conny. This also lasted a month and the Apostle left for America for good without his blond wife.

Surely this is evident of the rotten core without God. I wonder what Chief Apostle Eric has to say about this?

My wife is still diligently following the Chief Apostle clan and has recently been crowned with the title of Apostle. 

My reason for this entry is to warn others to stay away as this group is still between me and my wife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not been reading this site for a while so I enjoyed catching up. The first shock was to see the face of Apostle David vonandersec, the crown prince son, writing as JOHAN??? accusing Greg of chasing after a certain blond lady. The truth is that David got married to the cult publisher Lucinda, (the Mossel Bay trumpet lady) as soon as her divorce got through. This marriage lasted days. Then Apostle David got married to a certain blond lady which sold her soul to the group and was titled Evangelist Conny. This also lasted a month and the Apostle left for America for good without his blond wife.</p>
<p>Surely this is evident of the rotten core without God. I wonder what Chief Apostle Eric has to say about this?</p>
<p>My wife is still diligently following the Chief Apostle clan and has recently been crowned with the title of Apostle. </p>
<p>My reason for this entry is to warn others to stay away as this group is still between me and my wife.</p>
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		By: Truthful Conversation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truthful Conversation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My stomach turns at how people can become so deluded and deceived! What a load of rubbish these people preach.. you are so right about religious pride Martin.. and the &lt;strong&gt;pride&lt;/strong&gt; in their &lt;strong&gt;false beliefs is astonishing! .. I looked at the picture, and personally it looks like a mahoosive tack (drawing pin) to me.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My stomach turns at how people can become so deluded and deceived! What a load of rubbish these people preach.. you are so right about religious pride Martin.. and the <strong>pride</strong> in their <strong>false beliefs is astonishing! .. I looked at the picture, and personally it looks like a mahoosive tack (drawing pin) to me.</strong></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-229603&quot;&gt;Micheline&lt;/a&gt;.

Micheline

I am the master spelling error maker, if you can catch up to me, then you will be allowed to ask for forgiveness ;) until then, just shrug yer shoulders and laugh :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/28/eric-von-anderseck-mystery-christ-blowing-his-trumpet-identified/#comment-229603" >Micheline</a>.</p>
<p>Micheline</p>
<p>I am the master spelling error maker, if you can catch up to me, then you will be allowed to ask for forgiveness 😉 until then, just shrug yer shoulders and laugh 🙂</p>
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		By: Micheline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Micheline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oi, a few spelling err above, pls forgive me Debs.]]></description>
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		By: Micheline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Micheline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good morning DTW,

I have spent 2 days reading all 259 posts...

I found everything these people from S8W said, going straight over my head. Some of Eric&#039;s posts, I had to read 3 or 4 times and still it didn&#039;t make sense, AT ALL.

As for Monique and Melissa, I started reading their posts but gave up half way through. I used the responses from Debs, Michael, Greg and BL, to &#039;sort of&#039; explain to me what these ladies were saying.

They use the same wording and sentence structure, as if coping straight from some form of man-written book. I found their posts heavy, sometimes dark and almost emotionless, definitely taught and rehearsed, no room for movement/discussion and no love/compassion.

Things like the following confused me:
-“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”...normal English please!
-SIGNS of the weeks of Enoch...&lt;em&gt;what????&lt;/em&gt;
-&#039;&lt;strong&gt;Apostle&lt;/strong&gt; Eric says&#039;...&lt;em&gt;with respect, this is rediculous!&lt;/em&gt;
-Covenants will change (post 68)...?
-We will include any names of those who depart from Christ and yet claim apostolic authority apart from His kingdom and sanctified government which SIGN the Lord of hosts has granted through this stewardship and trust of His grace. (post 69)...?
-We are in the 2nd covenant still and require these &lt;strong&gt;tokens&lt;/strong&gt; for your faith to be made perfect in Christ. (post 71)...&lt;em&gt;what tokens?&lt;/em&gt;
-only apostles can confirm if a persons faith in Christ....&lt;em&gt;says who? &lt;/em&gt;
-speaking in tongues equals salvation...?
-aggg more but don&#039;t want to read through all their &quot;issues&quot; again.

Their &quot;believes&quot; sounds cold, too many &lt;strong&gt;man-made &lt;/strong&gt;additions. I have never heard of these books they use (Enoch, Adam &#038; Eve)...thank goodness. God&#039;s Word does it for me, all I need know, to love Him, obey Him and trust Him.

Why can&#039;t it be kept simple: 
1. Accept Jesus as Saviour
2. Repent your sins
3. Listen to the Holy Spirit
By the above will we know our Heavenly Father, we will read His Words and start the learning process.
See, I believe that the Lord knows we are &quot;useless&quot; when it comes to obeying Him, therefore He had to give us His Son. He had to make things simple for us to even come close to loving and thus, obeying Him.
 
&lt;strong&gt;HOW WONDERFUL IS THAT---HE has done ALL the WORK---all we have to do is listen, obey, trust and have faith.&lt;/strong&gt;

Now that I call a FULL LIFE on earth and an ETERNAL FUTURE with Him. 

Eazy-ca-peasy, I added nothing, I took nothing away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning DTW,</p>
<p>I have spent 2 days reading all 259 posts&#8230;</p>
<p>I found everything these people from S8W said, going straight over my head. Some of Eric&#8217;s posts, I had to read 3 or 4 times and still it didn&#8217;t make sense, AT ALL.</p>
<p>As for Monique and Melissa, I started reading their posts but gave up half way through. I used the responses from Debs, Michael, Greg and BL, to &#8216;sort of&#8217; explain to me what these ladies were saying.</p>
<p>They use the same wording and sentence structure, as if coping straight from some form of man-written book. I found their posts heavy, sometimes dark and almost emotionless, definitely taught and rehearsed, no room for movement/discussion and no love/compassion.</p>
<p>Things like the following confused me:<br />
-“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”&#8230;normal English please!<br />
-SIGNS of the weeks of Enoch&#8230;<em>what????</em><br />
-&#8216;<strong>Apostle</strong> Eric says&#8217;&#8230;<em>with respect, this is rediculous!</em><br />
-Covenants will change (post 68)&#8230;?<br />
-We will include any names of those who depart from Christ and yet claim apostolic authority apart from His kingdom and sanctified government which SIGN the Lord of hosts has granted through this stewardship and trust of His grace. (post 69)&#8230;?<br />
-We are in the 2nd covenant still and require these <strong>tokens</strong> for your faith to be made perfect in Christ. (post 71)&#8230;<em>what tokens?</em><br />
-only apostles can confirm if a persons faith in Christ&#8230;.<em>says who? </em><br />
-speaking in tongues equals salvation&#8230;?<br />
-aggg more but don&#8217;t want to read through all their &#8220;issues&#8221; again.</p>
<p>Their &#8220;believes&#8221; sounds cold, too many <strong>man-made </strong>additions. I have never heard of these books they use (Enoch, Adam &amp; Eve)&#8230;thank goodness. God&#8217;s Word does it for me, all I need know, to love Him, obey Him and trust Him.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t it be kept simple:<br />
1. Accept Jesus as Saviour<br />
2. Repent your sins<br />
3. Listen to the Holy Spirit<br />
By the above will we know our Heavenly Father, we will read His Words and start the learning process.<br />
See, I believe that the Lord knows we are &#8220;useless&#8221; when it comes to obeying Him, therefore He had to give us His Son. He had to make things simple for us to even come close to loving and thus, obeying Him.</p>
<p><strong>HOW WONDERFUL IS THAT&#8212;HE has done ALL the WORK&#8212;all we have to do is listen, obey, trust and have faith.</strong></p>
<p>Now that I call a FULL LIFE on earth and an ETERNAL FUTURE with Him. </p>
<p>Eazy-ca-peasy, I added nothing, I took nothing away.</p>
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		By: Martin Horan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Horan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anytime, Deborah. It&#039;s you who deserves the thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime, Deborah. It&#8217;s you who deserves the thanks.</p>
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