Thank you Alexia

You cannot quote Scripture in context and try to choreograph falsehood as truth, but your mind is not able to say even what you are trying to portray. You are not able to post correctly and remove blockquotes between two posts and have them read as one that you respond to. Martin Horan and John Andrews posts have been portrayed as one. They both speak the way of truth and your arguments against them is like scrambled eggs – so is your doctrine and you speak in riddles that you, even yourself, cannot logically present as argument. Even Satan knows the Scripture, and from the beginning he twists the truth.

Tozer says: “Christless Christianity sounds contradictory but it exists as a real phenomenon in our day. Much that is being done in Christ’s name is false to Christ in that it is conceived by the flesh, incorporates fleshly methods, and seeks fleshly ends. Christ is mentioned from time to time in the same way and for the same reason that a self-seeking politician mentions Lincoln and the flag, to provide a sacred front for carnal activities and to deceive the simplehearted listeners. This giveaway is that Christ is not central: He is not all and in all.

Again, there are psychic experiences that thrill the seeker and lead him to believe that he has indeed met the Lord and been carried to the third heaven; but the true nature of the phenomenon is discovered later when the face of Christ begins to fade from the victim’s consciousness and he comes to depend more and more upon emotional jags as a proof of his spirituality.

If on the other hand the new experience tends to make Christ indispensable, if it takes our interest off our feeling and places it in Christ, we are on the right track. Whatever makes Christ dear to us is pretty sure to be from God”

You place your experiences and false gibberish and signs that are imagined or “manufactured by Satan. Those who preach Christ, and Him crucified are in another camp and “We cannot help you and surely you cannot help us with your “scrambled egg theology”.

But then you have not a clue what we are saying to you, and we are not “simplehearted” and our minds are sober. You are “drunk with a wrong spirit” and deluded. Are we harsh and unloving – no we just do not accept anything that would raise itself above Christ.

2 Corinthians 10:1-5 (KJV)

1 Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:

2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.

3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;

5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

You “war in the flesh”, and are deceived to do so by a counterfeit spirit that is not of God.

liz48

My goodness, tell me honestly what exactly do you believe if you insist that Christianity is actually pagan? Roman Catholicism is pagan, but genuine Christianity, being genuinely born again is NOT pagan. And who is this LORD you refer of when you say ‘The Lord is The Healer’?
You used to heal people you say, my arn’t you just special? And which Lord are you having a relationship with? You don’t mention Jesus Christ’s name, so The Lord can be a NEW AGE version of Jesus. You deny Jesus Christ by denying the trinity, the trinity is just a word! God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are 3 persons in One and this is very real.

>> I personally know that satan hates deliverance ministry.

Satan does not hate deliverance ministries, he loves them. He loves them because he is behind the false teaching fooling everyone that he can deliver them from demons; what is actually happening is the demon inside the person puts on the biggest act, even acts like it’s left the person, while the false faith healer adds more demonic forces to the unsuspecting person. The worst thing that can happen is that the person believes they have been delivered, gets totally caught up in the false doctrine of the faith healer (that’s another demon making sure you steer off course) and the person in the end NEVER hears the truth because they refuse to hear it. They die in the end from the same illness they went to the faith healer for deliverance.

Tell me, the people you ‘healed’ are they still alive? Be honest now…

While you are at it, are you a William Branham follower?

liz48 wrote

Christianity is founded on pagan doctrines like the trinity etc.

The Trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit) is a biblical doctrine no one can deny. However, your denial of the Trinity is a sure sign that you are not saved. Repent and believe the Gospel.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! (Isa 5:20-21)

I am not surprised… This is the next thing I have wanted to mention nl. when you deal with with TB Joshua and Kobus van Rensburg and all these “satanic” healers, You might be healed temporary But it always comes at a price !

What you sow in the flesh, you WILL reap in the flesh!
When you put your trust in Satan for healing, then He will let you down because he is a lair !

Jesus did not have a healing ministry. The healings that he did was for a different purpose… I don’t have time now but I will expand and explain this in greater depth tomorrow .

I feel sad because so many people are still putting their trust in the physical and not the Spiritual.

People, we worship Hin in SPIRIT and TRUTH… NOT the Physical and Truth !

John 10:10 tells us that satan (the enemy) comes to kill, steal and destroy. If you don’t classify sickness and disease under this category, I find it difficult to think what you would.

The Lord is The Healer. Christianity is founded on pagan doctrines like the trinity etc. which were not the Words of God that Jesus referred the spiritual leaders of his day to refer to, in order to know who he was. The paganism of Rome in the roots of christianity makes it a false system. Yes, I have been used to heal others – in all events in my own relationship and communication with The Lord – as He directed me. I have never been healed by any person praying or laying hands on me in a church. I have on the other hand seen demonic spirits on “great ministers.”

I give T.B. Joshua a wide margin in judging his work because I personally know that satan hates deliverance ministry. Do I believe there is deception in deliverance ministry – yes, I do. All the Holy Gifts and manifestations are twisted in reflection in the unHoly…

Fe,
Would you rather have false apostles and prophets deceive unsuspecting people and lead them to hell?

No comment: Very sad event. Not what they expected I am sure. Please do not post anything on this that would be hurtful to friends and family.

67 South Africans dead in Nigeria collapse
September 16 2014 at 09:09pm
By Peter Fabricius, Foreign Editor
iol news pic Nigeria Collapsed Building~2 AP In this file photo taken on Saturday, Sept. 13, 2014, Rescue workers search for survivors in the rubble of a collapsed building belonging to the Synagogue Church of All Nations in Lagos, Nigeria. (AP Photo/Sunday Alamba, File)

Johannesburg – President Jacob Zuma announced on Tuesday night that 67 South Africans were among the scores of people who died after a building at the Synagogue Church of All Nations collapsed on Friday in Lagos, Nigeria.

Fe,

Would you rather have false apostles and prophets deceive unsuspecting people and lead them to hell? – which I assume you may think is real love. Or would you prefer to warn them from Scripture (which John Andrews UK/Ireland has done) and save them from hell?

By the way, the context of the verse you quoted is the following:

Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (James 5:19-20)

Please quote verses in their proper context. The verse does not say that unconcerned or random love covers a multitude of sins. It says that when you convert (turn) a sinner from his errors, then and then alone do you truly love them and do you cover a multitude of sins.

John Andrews UK/Ireland simply quoted from Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV). So, are you going to tell Solomon when you see him – “there was no love there”?

mrs Roslyn Gaffane wrote:
Hello every body..
I’m mrs Roslyn Gaffane from Pretoria south Africa i have being on sick bed for 2 years now.i have being in many hospitals in this country but no doctor could cure my illness(CANCER) until one day i was watching Emmanuel TV (synagogue church of all nations) i saw how the man of God help many people i search for their email i contact them and explain all my problem them pray for me send me their new anointing water as i apply the anointing water that is the end of the sickness.. i’m the most happiest woman on earth now.. thank you so much Prophet ……….(deleted)

mrs Roslyn Gaffane,
If you had cancer you have an opportunity to share with those one this blog any doctor/s in SA that tried to treat you. Give this blog their name/s (or the name of the hospital) and when you saw them. In good faith we will contact them to hear what type of cancer you had and at what stage it was. Then you would have been back to them to verify that your cancer has indeed been cured (taken away)? – we would like the follow up reports from the doctors. You cannot hide behind your “privacy” when you post on a blog about a healing in your own body.
You have to realize that we have no idea if you were genuinely healed. Anybody can type “that is the end of the sickness”. You expect people to actually believe a few words typed on a computer. I for one am very skeptical of your testimony which is very weak and does not impress without proof. Sorry to call you out on this – but you started to share with us, and you owe us at least a more convincing story than what you have given us.
Or are you like Angus Buchan who says: “You have to have a testimony – get one – because nobody can challenge you as “THEY WERE NOT THERE”?
Also – please answer Thomas Lessing’s questions of 5 September 2014 first – as it is very important!
You have a nice name, but even that we do not know whether it is the truth. This site functions to spread the truth and not the opposite.
Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV)
16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
This blog is a community of mostly genuine saved Christians who have a love for those that are lost in their unregenerate state (unsaved) and we also like to shine the light on false teachers and the deceived people that get caught up in their “lying wonders”. We would like to believe you, but that doesn’t mean we do not think – and examine – what is posted for all to see. It is called “Testing the spirits”
2 Thessalonians 2:9 (KJV)
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders
Hope you understand. I would have deleted your “advert for the prophet” that you speak of, but maybe this discussion was needed.

How sad that you feel you have to take this position in “outing” someone. I, too have no idea if this woman is real or not, if her testimony is or not, and I understand if it is to be posted, it needs to be authenticated. But the tone, the attack you used… there was no love there. And to “seal” t with an apology of having to do it? I have no words. I pray she is telling the truth! I do not for one moment believe this “prophet” is real. I have watched many videos and “alarms” go off, but that does not give right to approach someone the way done. Love covers a multitude of sin…. even hers if this is not real.