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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Teddy, you wrote some pretty straight-forward things and believe the Word of God: God cares for the afflicted. He always has. Yes, blame people and go right ahead and blame Christians, too. We are all to be blamed. We are sinners and this this world is in an awful mess. Christ is hte only SAVIOUR and he cares about you and your sense of righteousness. He loves that about you - for sure. What God doesn&#039;t love about you is your fallen nature, your own sin and your sinfulness that you can&#039;t cut out just like you can&#039;t get rid of your shadow. You are stuck with your personal &quot;dirt&quot;, your failings and your pride and sin. You need Christ. He needs to save you. In case you should drop by here again, I thought it would be the only loving thing to point out to you. Yes, we have to feed the hungry - but YOU need the Bread of Life and there is only ONE in the world that can give it to you - for it is Christ Himself. He wants to give HIMSELF to you. Read all four gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and ask God to reveal Himself to you. He will in His own unique way. How - I don&#039;t know for this is your salvation story with God and not mine. Be saved and know that you know that you are. If we rescue everyone from starvation, we have done a great thing and we are showing God&#039;s love when we work toward that end. But if we love people into the Kingdom of God by professing and proclaiming God, we help them to gain eternal life... I want to do both: help the starving in this world and point to Jesus, who is the only God-man and man-God who can get us to Heaven and who will provide eternal salvation - eternal life to His saved children. May God touch your heart and make you tremble in fear of God while at the same time making you rejoice in his wonderful gift of eternal salvation. TAke your filth, your sind and your pride to the cross of Christ. Aks Jesus to be your saviour and your Lord. Believe in the one true Trinitarian God who is only one. Be born again in the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. And trust my advice: Study your Bible diligently and never let your &quot;old Adam&quot; grow into a biest that cannot be tamed. Offer yourself up as living sacrifice and follow Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Teddy, you wrote some pretty straight-forward things and believe the Word of God: God cares for the afflicted. He always has. Yes, blame people and go right ahead and blame Christians, too. We are all to be blamed. We are sinners and this this world is in an awful mess. Christ is hte only SAVIOUR and he cares about you and your sense of righteousness. He loves that about you &#8211; for sure. What God doesn&#8217;t love about you is your fallen nature, your own sin and your sinfulness that you can&#8217;t cut out just like you can&#8217;t get rid of your shadow. You are stuck with your personal &#8220;dirt&#8221;, your failings and your pride and sin. You need Christ. He needs to save you. In case you should drop by here again, I thought it would be the only loving thing to point out to you. Yes, we have to feed the hungry &#8211; but YOU need the Bread of Life and there is only ONE in the world that can give it to you &#8211; for it is Christ Himself. He wants to give HIMSELF to you. Read all four gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and ask God to reveal Himself to you. He will in His own unique way. How &#8211; I don&#8217;t know for this is your salvation story with God and not mine. Be saved and know that you know that you are. If we rescue everyone from starvation, we have done a great thing and we are showing God&#8217;s love when we work toward that end. But if we love people into the Kingdom of God by professing and proclaiming God, we help them to gain eternal life&#8230; I want to do both: help the starving in this world and point to Jesus, who is the only God-man and man-God who can get us to Heaven and who will provide eternal salvation &#8211; eternal life to His saved children. May God touch your heart and make you tremble in fear of God while at the same time making you rejoice in his wonderful gift of eternal salvation. TAke your filth, your sind and your pride to the cross of Christ. Aks Jesus to be your saviour and your Lord. Believe in the one true Trinitarian God who is only one. Be born again in the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. And trust my advice: Study your Bible diligently and never let your &#8220;old Adam&#8221; grow into a biest that cannot be tamed. Offer yourself up as living sacrifice and follow Christ.</p>
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		By: Mercy Minder		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear fellow Christians and dear Christians caught up in IHOP and similar groups,

The misunderstanding may also come from misunderstanding what God&#039;s fire is all about, and misunderstanding what the fruit of the Spirit is all about. 

If the Christians caught up in all of this would start studying the burning bush, they would get to see that this was a holy fire that didn&#039;t devour Moses but that also didn&#039;t zap any particular strength into Moses.

It was a fire that was designed to instill the desire to be holy and the desire to truly love God in people, not the desire to be powerful and definitely not the desire to be &quot;transformed&quot; into &quot;know-it-alls&quot; who can or would like to see into the future like witches and magicians do. And also, this fire was not designed to make people into small super-healers that travel the world proclaiming Christ&#039;s healing power, while Christ never proclaimed Himself as a healer but always as the one witnessing and pointing to the Father who is in Heaven. Different focus! Wake up, dear Christians! 

Of course, God can heal and of course he does but according to HIS counsel and not ours. Let me tell you this: God can also allow Satan to perform healings, miracles and a multitude of wonders. He can allow him to send you visions and imaginations, prophecies and dreams. Remember that this is precisely how God interacted with the Egyptian magicians, and they where pretty powerful magicians but only because God let them have their way for a season...  

The Baal priests were powerful magicians (see stories in the Old Testament). No one should doubt that. But when God took their power away, they could not perform at all, could they? They could ask for fire to fall down from heaven but nothing happened because God took that &quot;spiritistic toy&quot; away from them. Their &quot;fire&quot; wouldn&#039;t work for them anymore. These Baal priests loved that Satanic fire just as much as you IHOP-people and Todd Bentley followers love the so-called &quot;fire of God&quot;, which is NOT God&#039;s fire but Baal&#039;s fire. You love it too, you cherish it. It&#039;s like a drug to you. You are addicted to this &quot;fiery fruit&quot;. 

Just like the Baal priests where. But then God withheld that fire from them that made them all madly in love with their &quot;god&quot; and sent his fire of judgement down on them instead. 

God is allowing Satan to pour his satanic fire into your veins and you think it&#039;s God&#039;s special blessing. Wicked deception! My heart cries out for you. Wake up! 

You are drinking from the cup of darkness and you are doing it at your own free will. God is not forcing you. He is letting you have your deception because you are or were yearning for it. You wanted to live by sight and not by faith. That&#039;s why you got entangled in the Toronto blessing or any of the other manifestations of this false spirit right down to a false gift of speaking in tongues that praise Satan and not God. You didn&#039;t study God&#039;s Word dilently. He didn&#039;t seek to be taught by the Holy Spirit but saught to see some &quot;spirit&quot; perform manifestations before you eyes instead. 

The fire you are receiving is the fire of Satan for God is hiding His face from you. 
The only fire you will get to experience from God will be His fire of judgement if you don&#039;t get out of this place and remove yourself from the fake body of Christ. 

Please, wake up and get out of there. PLEASE!!! Take off that spiritual blindfold, which dark spirits have wrapped around your eyes! Get out and seek the living God who works in ways too wonderful for us to fathom. Who can give you that certainty of heart that you know, that you know that you know that you are saved and will see eternal salvation. And that certainty that you only need the quiet workings of the Holy Spirit, your Bible and faithful followers of Christ - and you will surely make it to the Heavenly Gate, for God does not break His promises. His covenant cannot be broken. He is faithful. He loves you!!!! 

Don&#039;t seek healing, don&#039;t seek power. Seek to honour and glorify God. Seek to witness the gospels of John, Mark, Matthew and Luke to people. Seek to witness Christ as a teacher and as Son of God and as God Himself to people. Don&#039;t promote Christ as healer for he did not promote Himself in this way, although he healed so much. Don&#039;t seek healings. Seek Christ&#039;s nature. Seek God&#039;s will. Seek God&#039;s true glory and not the fake IHOP glory. 

Follow in Christ&#039;s ways and leave the IHOP way immediately, for it is a wicked deception. 

For IHOP and many groups similar to them, faith in the silent and hidden workings of God have been replaced in faith in the tangible workings of Satan, for this is what Satan does. He always gives you fruit to eat. He gives you tangible things. You want a prayer answered?Okay, Satan will make it happen. If that is what it takes for you to leave your God and follow a counterfeit Christ, Satan will gladly perform for you. You can evoke the devil&#039;s demons to dance to your tune so that he can make you dance to his. Don&#039;t you see it? Don&#039;t you? That&#039;s the deception. 

God grows his tree of life inside of us. This is where our &quot;faith tree&quot; grows. But in the hearts of the deceived, another tree is growing. It is the tree of knowledge. Don&#039;t you see this? Can&#039;t you see the deception? You are eating from the snake&#039;s tree over and over again. You are partaking of the snake&#039;s &quot;seed&quot; over and over again. You are consenting to a marriage bond with the evil one and believe you are uniting with Christ. Wake up! You are Satan&#039;s bride and not Christ&#039;s. Don&#039;t stay there. Get out. 

You are making yourself one with darkness, thinking that you are sitting at God&#039;s table. No. No. No! This is not God&#039;s table. God&#039;s tree of life is growing inside of each believer and this is where it grows into a strong tree. The fruit of the Spirit is of another nature, totally different to what is being communicated to you. 

The Holy Spirit does not party and excel in miracles like the spirit of IHOP does. He does not seek outward gain and outward recognition. He does not show Himself off. He stays in the backseat, for His whole purpose is to work out holiness in a Christian&#039;s life and to minister to the Christian in such a way so that he would become a useful tool in the Creator&#039;s hands; someone to be trusted to rescue others from eternal condemnation... Someone to be trusted to be sent to witness to people and to teach the TRUTH; away from the public eye and far removed from hype-and spectacle-seeking masses who follow flock together because of the miracles and not because of God. 

Get acquainted with God&#039;s revealed mystery. This mystery is this: If you are a sanctified Christian, you are powerful in Christ indeed. The holier you are, the more God can use you in His kingdom. Maybe no one will notice that you are a strong tree in God&#039;s &quot;Garden Eden&quot;. Maybe no one can see that. But God sees. Maybe you don&#039;t see it. But God sees it. 

But the more you hop around in ecstatic prayer, wanting to evoke healings and wonders, the more you are getting to be a powerful tool in Satan&#039;s hands, ready to be used to cast demons into people, believing you are praying &quot;special anointings&quot; over them... You are getting to be a witch doctor and you are dragging people into this so that they are going to be tormented by false spirits just like you are (even though you might not be realising it yet). If you wake up from this, be sure that these spirits will show their ugly faces and will not easily let you go. Wake up and get out now!
Be warned, if you are not saved, your tree of knowledge is growing into a giant tree inside your heart and every day you stay in Satan&#039;s fake paradise, you will find it harder to turn to God, for you are not his yet anyway. If you are not sure that you are saved, run away and ask God to send you a true witness and God will. For God wants to see you saved in the true Christ. 
If you are saved and got deceived, God will help you out, for he is FAITHFUL but you have to surrender to God. You have to allow God to show you the deception. 

The Holy Spirit seeks to promote Christ as Redeemer and Mediator and the Holy Spirit seeks to promote God the Father.The Holy Spirit does not promote Himself. The Holy Spirit sanctifies us. He helps us to be obedient in Christ. He helps us be in Christ instead of being &quot;in the old Adam&quot;. He is there to make us powerful witnesses of his Gospel. His Holy Spirit will talk us out of IHOP and other deceptive ministries. Ask God to talk to you. 

If God is your Saviour, the Holy Spirit wants to talk you out of IHOP because God loves you and wants you out of there. 


The burning bush helps us understand that God&#039;s fire has two sides: One is judgement and the other is salvation via justification through Christ and this is 100% tied to God&#039;s HOLINESS. Isn&#039;t this a truly wonderful message? God&#039;s fire at pentecost sought to bring God&#039;s power to the disciples but hat power is embedded, that is, totally tied up with God&#039;s working of sanctification in our lives. God&#039;s power is not to be had without it. It is the empowerment of being able to be like Christ. We will never reach perfection.That&#039;s not the point. But every minute that we are in Christ rather than in &quot;our old Adam&quot; is a bright moment for God&#039;s kingdom. As a Christian, we want to be collectors of many such &quot;bright moments&quot;. We want to crucify our flesh. We want to put on the crucified Christ and live in his resurrection day by day. If our old Adam is seeking signs and wonders, Christ cannot abide in us. You are quenching the Holy Spirit... Exactly the opposite of what you want to be doing for you are being deceived into believing that you making room for the &quot;spirit of god&quot; while the only spirit that you are being conditioned for are the spirits of darkness. 
The true power of the Holy Spirit is totally different to the one promoted by IHOP. Look hard, think hard, pray hard! Rebuke the false spirits! Get away from this evil place! Dark angels are hovering around you. You need to be saved from this. This will endanger your eternal destination. You have to be sure, yes totally certain, that you have been saved in the Christ of John the Baptist, Mark, Matthew and Luke and not in the IHOP Christ. Otherwise, you might not be saved at all. 

Moses had to take off his shoes for he was standing on holy ground when Moses encountered God in this instance where he discovered the burning bush. If sin were not an issue, Moses would have been able to keep them on. Think about that! 

The fire of IHOP, the healings - everything about this fake spirit that masquerades as &quot;holy spirit&quot; introduces you to Satan&#039;s fire. The fire of spiritistic desires, the fire of divination, the fire of the magicians and witches, the fire of wordly gain, of worldy - yet &quot;spiritualized&quot; worldy power, worldy healing, wordly &quot;sanctification&quot;, which seeks to make you into a mini-god beside the Almighty God, while building up your old Adam into a huge biest and leaving no room for your spirit to abide in Christ. That is the danger you are in. 

The fire of this spirit has got Satan written all over all its various manifestations. Don&#039;t you know that Satan can heal? That he can perform miracles? That he can let teeth grow, and perform wonders, miracles? Don&#039;t you know that he will send hte false prophet who will die and will come to life again. Satan is a copy cat. He copies God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. And people see that things are moving and wonderful miracles are taking place and believe them to be from God. 

Same applies to the speaking of tongues. If you&#039;d know your master&#039;s voice, you&#039;d listen to Him and get out of there FAST. But you know another master&#039;s voice - and this master is not God but the dark princes, fallen angels. Dear deceived Christians, you are deceived. You are worshipping Baal. 

Your God has not got anything in common with the God of the Bible - only your Christian terminology has. That&#039;s the only common factor. The meanings of the words you are using have changed. There are filled with different meanings. They seek to glorify the powers in the deep and not the Holy God of Abraham and of the Apostles. Remember the warnings in the book of revelation. You are flocking around a false shepherd. He is not crowned with a crown of thorns but with jewels and with  magical powers. This is the &quot;god&quot; you are following. 

Ever wondered why Christians are flocking around their &quot;fiery Christ and Holy Spirit&quot; while the secular worlds flocks around all kinds of fires, as well (just look at the pop/ rock culture and all the many fiery contexts in music videos, etc.). It&#039;s all Satan&#039;s fire. The same thing. Satan is a fiery serpent. Didn&#039;t you know that? 
God never promoted his fire. Never. His fire is mentioned in connection with judgement. The fire of pentecost was a manifestation of God&#039;s sanctifying power, not of miracle working powers, although God in his graciousness allowed people to be healed. The focus is different. It is the spirit that you need to know. Know God&#039;s voice. Don&#039;t follow the voice of the serpent! Don&#039;t inhale his breath! Do not ask to for the impartation of the Holy Spirit for the true Spirit of God resides in you by God&#039;s will and not yours. Whatever wants to enter you, is not of God. Never is. God is a quiet resident inside your heart. Satan comes with music, drums, manifestations and spectacular performances. A cunning show master, ready to steal your soul. Please, dear Father God in Heaven, open the eyes of the deceived and set them free. 
In Christ&#039;s name and in your sure and certain will I pray. Amen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear fellow Christians and dear Christians caught up in IHOP and similar groups,</p>
<p>The misunderstanding may also come from misunderstanding what God&#8217;s fire is all about, and misunderstanding what the fruit of the Spirit is all about. </p>
<p>If the Christians caught up in all of this would start studying the burning bush, they would get to see that this was a holy fire that didn&#8217;t devour Moses but that also didn&#8217;t zap any particular strength into Moses.</p>
<p>It was a fire that was designed to instill the desire to be holy and the desire to truly love God in people, not the desire to be powerful and definitely not the desire to be &#8220;transformed&#8221; into &#8220;know-it-alls&#8221; who can or would like to see into the future like witches and magicians do. And also, this fire was not designed to make people into small super-healers that travel the world proclaiming Christ&#8217;s healing power, while Christ never proclaimed Himself as a healer but always as the one witnessing and pointing to the Father who is in Heaven. Different focus! Wake up, dear Christians! </p>
<p>Of course, God can heal and of course he does but according to HIS counsel and not ours. Let me tell you this: God can also allow Satan to perform healings, miracles and a multitude of wonders. He can allow him to send you visions and imaginations, prophecies and dreams. Remember that this is precisely how God interacted with the Egyptian magicians, and they where pretty powerful magicians but only because God let them have their way for a season&#8230;  </p>
<p>The Baal priests were powerful magicians (see stories in the Old Testament). No one should doubt that. But when God took their power away, they could not perform at all, could they? They could ask for fire to fall down from heaven but nothing happened because God took that &#8220;spiritistic toy&#8221; away from them. Their &#8220;fire&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t work for them anymore. These Baal priests loved that Satanic fire just as much as you IHOP-people and Todd Bentley followers love the so-called &#8220;fire of God&#8221;, which is NOT God&#8217;s fire but Baal&#8217;s fire. You love it too, you cherish it. It&#8217;s like a drug to you. You are addicted to this &#8220;fiery fruit&#8221;. </p>
<p>Just like the Baal priests where. But then God withheld that fire from them that made them all madly in love with their &#8220;god&#8221; and sent his fire of judgement down on them instead. </p>
<p>God is allowing Satan to pour his satanic fire into your veins and you think it&#8217;s God&#8217;s special blessing. Wicked deception! My heart cries out for you. Wake up! </p>
<p>You are drinking from the cup of darkness and you are doing it at your own free will. God is not forcing you. He is letting you have your deception because you are or were yearning for it. You wanted to live by sight and not by faith. That&#8217;s why you got entangled in the Toronto blessing or any of the other manifestations of this false spirit right down to a false gift of speaking in tongues that praise Satan and not God. You didn&#8217;t study God&#8217;s Word dilently. He didn&#8217;t seek to be taught by the Holy Spirit but saught to see some &#8220;spirit&#8221; perform manifestations before you eyes instead. </p>
<p>The fire you are receiving is the fire of Satan for God is hiding His face from you.<br />
The only fire you will get to experience from God will be His fire of judgement if you don&#8217;t get out of this place and remove yourself from the fake body of Christ. </p>
<p>Please, wake up and get out of there. PLEASE!!! Take off that spiritual blindfold, which dark spirits have wrapped around your eyes! Get out and seek the living God who works in ways too wonderful for us to fathom. Who can give you that certainty of heart that you know, that you know that you know that you are saved and will see eternal salvation. And that certainty that you only need the quiet workings of the Holy Spirit, your Bible and faithful followers of Christ &#8211; and you will surely make it to the Heavenly Gate, for God does not break His promises. His covenant cannot be broken. He is faithful. He loves you!!!! </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t seek healing, don&#8217;t seek power. Seek to honour and glorify God. Seek to witness the gospels of John, Mark, Matthew and Luke to people. Seek to witness Christ as a teacher and as Son of God and as God Himself to people. Don&#8217;t promote Christ as healer for he did not promote Himself in this way, although he healed so much. Don&#8217;t seek healings. Seek Christ&#8217;s nature. Seek God&#8217;s will. Seek God&#8217;s true glory and not the fake IHOP glory. </p>
<p>Follow in Christ&#8217;s ways and leave the IHOP way immediately, for it is a wicked deception. </p>
<p>For IHOP and many groups similar to them, faith in the silent and hidden workings of God have been replaced in faith in the tangible workings of Satan, for this is what Satan does. He always gives you fruit to eat. He gives you tangible things. You want a prayer answered?Okay, Satan will make it happen. If that is what it takes for you to leave your God and follow a counterfeit Christ, Satan will gladly perform for you. You can evoke the devil&#8217;s demons to dance to your tune so that he can make you dance to his. Don&#8217;t you see it? Don&#8217;t you? That&#8217;s the deception. </p>
<p>God grows his tree of life inside of us. This is where our &#8220;faith tree&#8221; grows. But in the hearts of the deceived, another tree is growing. It is the tree of knowledge. Don&#8217;t you see this? Can&#8217;t you see the deception? You are eating from the snake&#8217;s tree over and over again. You are partaking of the snake&#8217;s &#8220;seed&#8221; over and over again. You are consenting to a marriage bond with the evil one and believe you are uniting with Christ. Wake up! You are Satan&#8217;s bride and not Christ&#8217;s. Don&#8217;t stay there. Get out. </p>
<p>You are making yourself one with darkness, thinking that you are sitting at God&#8217;s table. No. No. No! This is not God&#8217;s table. God&#8217;s tree of life is growing inside of each believer and this is where it grows into a strong tree. The fruit of the Spirit is of another nature, totally different to what is being communicated to you. </p>
<p>The Holy Spirit does not party and excel in miracles like the spirit of IHOP does. He does not seek outward gain and outward recognition. He does not show Himself off. He stays in the backseat, for His whole purpose is to work out holiness in a Christian&#8217;s life and to minister to the Christian in such a way so that he would become a useful tool in the Creator&#8217;s hands; someone to be trusted to rescue others from eternal condemnation&#8230; Someone to be trusted to be sent to witness to people and to teach the TRUTH; away from the public eye and far removed from hype-and spectacle-seeking masses who follow flock together because of the miracles and not because of God. </p>
<p>Get acquainted with God&#8217;s revealed mystery. This mystery is this: If you are a sanctified Christian, you are powerful in Christ indeed. The holier you are, the more God can use you in His kingdom. Maybe no one will notice that you are a strong tree in God&#8217;s &#8220;Garden Eden&#8221;. Maybe no one can see that. But God sees. Maybe you don&#8217;t see it. But God sees it. </p>
<p>But the more you hop around in ecstatic prayer, wanting to evoke healings and wonders, the more you are getting to be a powerful tool in Satan&#8217;s hands, ready to be used to cast demons into people, believing you are praying &#8220;special anointings&#8221; over them&#8230; You are getting to be a witch doctor and you are dragging people into this so that they are going to be tormented by false spirits just like you are (even though you might not be realising it yet). If you wake up from this, be sure that these spirits will show their ugly faces and will not easily let you go. Wake up and get out now!<br />
Be warned, if you are not saved, your tree of knowledge is growing into a giant tree inside your heart and every day you stay in Satan&#8217;s fake paradise, you will find it harder to turn to God, for you are not his yet anyway. If you are not sure that you are saved, run away and ask God to send you a true witness and God will. For God wants to see you saved in the true Christ.<br />
If you are saved and got deceived, God will help you out, for he is FAITHFUL but you have to surrender to God. You have to allow God to show you the deception. </p>
<p>The Holy Spirit seeks to promote Christ as Redeemer and Mediator and the Holy Spirit seeks to promote God the Father.The Holy Spirit does not promote Himself. The Holy Spirit sanctifies us. He helps us to be obedient in Christ. He helps us be in Christ instead of being &#8220;in the old Adam&#8221;. He is there to make us powerful witnesses of his Gospel. His Holy Spirit will talk us out of IHOP and other deceptive ministries. Ask God to talk to you. </p>
<p>If God is your Saviour, the Holy Spirit wants to talk you out of IHOP because God loves you and wants you out of there. </p>
<p>The burning bush helps us understand that God&#8217;s fire has two sides: One is judgement and the other is salvation via justification through Christ and this is 100% tied to God&#8217;s HOLINESS. Isn&#8217;t this a truly wonderful message? God&#8217;s fire at pentecost sought to bring God&#8217;s power to the disciples but hat power is embedded, that is, totally tied up with God&#8217;s working of sanctification in our lives. God&#8217;s power is not to be had without it. It is the empowerment of being able to be like Christ. We will never reach perfection.That&#8217;s not the point. But every minute that we are in Christ rather than in &#8220;our old Adam&#8221; is a bright moment for God&#8217;s kingdom. As a Christian, we want to be collectors of many such &#8220;bright moments&#8221;. We want to crucify our flesh. We want to put on the crucified Christ and live in his resurrection day by day. If our old Adam is seeking signs and wonders, Christ cannot abide in us. You are quenching the Holy Spirit&#8230; Exactly the opposite of what you want to be doing for you are being deceived into believing that you making room for the &#8220;spirit of god&#8221; while the only spirit that you are being conditioned for are the spirits of darkness.<br />
The true power of the Holy Spirit is totally different to the one promoted by IHOP. Look hard, think hard, pray hard! Rebuke the false spirits! Get away from this evil place! Dark angels are hovering around you. You need to be saved from this. This will endanger your eternal destination. You have to be sure, yes totally certain, that you have been saved in the Christ of John the Baptist, Mark, Matthew and Luke and not in the IHOP Christ. Otherwise, you might not be saved at all. </p>
<p>Moses had to take off his shoes for he was standing on holy ground when Moses encountered God in this instance where he discovered the burning bush. If sin were not an issue, Moses would have been able to keep them on. Think about that! </p>
<p>The fire of IHOP, the healings &#8211; everything about this fake spirit that masquerades as &#8220;holy spirit&#8221; introduces you to Satan&#8217;s fire. The fire of spiritistic desires, the fire of divination, the fire of the magicians and witches, the fire of wordly gain, of worldy &#8211; yet &#8220;spiritualized&#8221; worldy power, worldy healing, wordly &#8220;sanctification&#8221;, which seeks to make you into a mini-god beside the Almighty God, while building up your old Adam into a huge biest and leaving no room for your spirit to abide in Christ. That is the danger you are in. </p>
<p>The fire of this spirit has got Satan written all over all its various manifestations. Don&#8217;t you know that Satan can heal? That he can perform miracles? That he can let teeth grow, and perform wonders, miracles? Don&#8217;t you know that he will send hte false prophet who will die and will come to life again. Satan is a copy cat. He copies God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. And people see that things are moving and wonderful miracles are taking place and believe them to be from God. </p>
<p>Same applies to the speaking of tongues. If you&#8217;d know your master&#8217;s voice, you&#8217;d listen to Him and get out of there FAST. But you know another master&#8217;s voice &#8211; and this master is not God but the dark princes, fallen angels. Dear deceived Christians, you are deceived. You are worshipping Baal. </p>
<p>Your God has not got anything in common with the God of the Bible &#8211; only your Christian terminology has. That&#8217;s the only common factor. The meanings of the words you are using have changed. There are filled with different meanings. They seek to glorify the powers in the deep and not the Holy God of Abraham and of the Apostles. Remember the warnings in the book of revelation. You are flocking around a false shepherd. He is not crowned with a crown of thorns but with jewels and with  magical powers. This is the &#8220;god&#8221; you are following. </p>
<p>Ever wondered why Christians are flocking around their &#8220;fiery Christ and Holy Spirit&#8221; while the secular worlds flocks around all kinds of fires, as well (just look at the pop/ rock culture and all the many fiery contexts in music videos, etc.). It&#8217;s all Satan&#8217;s fire. The same thing. Satan is a fiery serpent. Didn&#8217;t you know that?<br />
God never promoted his fire. Never. His fire is mentioned in connection with judgement. The fire of pentecost was a manifestation of God&#8217;s sanctifying power, not of miracle working powers, although God in his graciousness allowed people to be healed. The focus is different. It is the spirit that you need to know. Know God&#8217;s voice. Don&#8217;t follow the voice of the serpent! Don&#8217;t inhale his breath! Do not ask to for the impartation of the Holy Spirit for the true Spirit of God resides in you by God&#8217;s will and not yours. Whatever wants to enter you, is not of God. Never is. God is a quiet resident inside your heart. Satan comes with music, drums, manifestations and spectacular performances. A cunning show master, ready to steal your soul. Please, dear Father God in Heaven, open the eyes of the deceived and set them free.<br />
In Christ&#8217;s name and in your sure and certain will I pray. Amen.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Anthony Hughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is only one God, and I believe in and follow his way.
He is a light to this world!
Thank you father that you gave your son to us as our redeemer and thank you Jesus, that you will be with us now and forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one God, and I believe in and follow his way.<br />
He is a light to this world!<br />
Thank you father that you gave your son to us as our redeemer and thank you Jesus, that you will be with us now and forever.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teddy, if you were referring to Jesus Christ as a guru,I want to bring it under your attention that you are blaspheming against the most high God. If you are referring to some so-called Christians lack of love, as if a guru spoke those words to them, I have to agree with you that many who think themselves to be Christians will soon get a rude awakening, for the love of God is not in them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, if you were referring to Jesus Christ as a guru,I want to bring it under your attention that you are blaspheming against the most high God. If you are referring to some so-called Christians lack of love, as if a guru spoke those words to them, I have to agree with you that many who think themselves to be Christians will soon get a rude awakening, for the love of God is not in them.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/28/kansas-city-awakens-to-revival-at-ihop/#comment-290108&quot;&gt;Teddy&lt;/a&gt;.

Teddy,

The Bible is so wonderful and you have just proved that it is 100% true.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:14)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You say you&#039;re on another planet? Are you evading your duty to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and comfort the afflicted on earth?]]></description>
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<p>Teddy,</p>
<p>The Bible is so wonderful and you have just proved that it is 100% true.</p>
<blockquote><p>The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:14)</p></blockquote>
<p>You say you&#8217;re on another planet? Are you evading your duty to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and comfort the afflicted on earth?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Im on another planet. Just been tripping through your world and I watched 100s die of hunger. I saw millions die brutal deaths and billions were suffering. I looked at all the words you have written and wondered how much it helped even one person of these billions. The answer is....nothing. in 10 seconds time after you finish reading this you will have forgotten the billions of people suffering and hurting. Does it really matter what you believe?  Your God who you claim defends you so much because you say he loves you  - you have already been cast out and your God has never known you at all - ever. Your religion that you boast about is worthless and it is you who will be cast out into outer darkness and you will be in the lake of fire for ever and all your fire meetings mean nothing. You say im kidding? Im gonna make your day...what did your guru tell you or was he joking rolling around in laughter when he said...I was hungry...I was naked... your pretty religion is going to be worthless if you dont stop piling up riches. Go feed th hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the afflicted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im on another planet. Just been tripping through your world and I watched 100s die of hunger. I saw millions die brutal deaths and billions were suffering. I looked at all the words you have written and wondered how much it helped even one person of these billions. The answer is&#8230;.nothing. in 10 seconds time after you finish reading this you will have forgotten the billions of people suffering and hurting. Does it really matter what you believe?  Your God who you claim defends you so much because you say he loves you  &#8211; you have already been cast out and your God has never known you at all &#8211; ever. Your religion that you boast about is worthless and it is you who will be cast out into outer darkness and you will be in the lake of fire for ever and all your fire meetings mean nothing. You say im kidding? Im gonna make your day&#8230;what did your guru tell you or was he joking rolling around in laughter when he said&#8230;I was hungry&#8230;I was naked&#8230; your pretty religion is going to be worthless if you dont stop piling up riches. Go feed th hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the afflicted.</p>
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		By: Battleghost		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/28/kansas-city-awakens-to-revival-at-ihop/#comment-224854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Battleghost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been over a year and a half since anyone has spoken a word here, but just want to let you know that people like me, are still researching about IHOP.  Thank you for keeping this site up this long, I hope many more people find this site useful along with other discernment sites.  Seeing the false teachings vs the true Word of God is making me more and more a believer.  Kinda strange how faith works that way.  I don&#039;t think there is any other religion that has this much of an issue of false teachings as we have here in Christianity.  Seeing the big picture this way makes me think more of why this is happening and how in-depth the arrogance of those that are misled have become so blinded by the falseness of &quot;another gospel&quot;.  It goes back to the song from Petra.  Rose colored stained glass windows.  I think it was on the album More Power to ya or Not of this World, can&#039;t remember.  But I think even Petra was warning young people then about this.  Go find that song and listen to it.  Speaks alot about today, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been over a year and a half since anyone has spoken a word here, but just want to let you know that people like me, are still researching about IHOP.  Thank you for keeping this site up this long, I hope many more people find this site useful along with other discernment sites.  Seeing the false teachings vs the true Word of God is making me more and more a believer.  Kinda strange how faith works that way.  I don&#8217;t think there is any other religion that has this much of an issue of false teachings as we have here in Christianity.  Seeing the big picture this way makes me think more of why this is happening and how in-depth the arrogance of those that are misled have become so blinded by the falseness of &#8220;another gospel&#8221;.  It goes back to the song from Petra.  Rose colored stained glass windows.  I think it was on the album More Power to ya or Not of this World, can&#8217;t remember.  But I think even Petra was warning young people then about this.  Go find that song and listen to it.  Speaks alot about today, I think.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/28/kansas-city-awakens-to-revival-at-ihop/#comment-112387&quot;&gt;Burning Lamp&lt;/a&gt;.

BL

Thank you for mentioning the part about studying the Word, I forgot to type that part!!!!]]></description>
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<p>BL</p>
<p>Thank you for mentioning the part about studying the Word, I forgot to type that part!!!!</p>
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		By: Burning Lamp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Burning Lamp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karie, I would add only this to Deb&#039;s excellent exhortation. Get into the Word of God. First, be sure of your salvation which is the bedrock and the foundation. You need to be assured of that. Then build upon that. Start fresh in the Word of God and ignore all the false teaching and Scripture twistin you have previously been under. God&#039;s Word + prayer are all you need right now. Listen to only His voice until you have purged yourself from this error. Seek Him with all your heart and He will refresh you with the Truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karie, I would add only this to Deb&#8217;s excellent exhortation. Get into the Word of God. First, be sure of your salvation which is the bedrock and the foundation. You need to be assured of that. Then build upon that. Start fresh in the Word of God and ignore all the false teaching and Scripture twistin you have previously been under. God&#8217;s Word + prayer are all you need right now. Listen to only His voice until you have purged yourself from this error. Seek Him with all your heart and He will refresh you with the Truth.</p>
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