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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452901</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 10:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452887&quot;&gt;Jon&lt;/a&gt;.

Jon, 

So true, so true!

What does the Bible say about false prophets and their false teachings? Yep Deut 18:22 provides the answer. Here&#039;s another one.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. (Deu 18:19-22)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, Amgus Buchan is an infamous liar and should be avoided at all cost. The WOF cronies think that positive confession is equal to prophecy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452887" >Jon</a>.</p>
<p>Jon, </p>
<p>So true, so true!</p>
<p>What does the Bible say about false prophets and their false teachings? Yep Deut 18:22 provides the answer. Here&#8217;s another one.</p>
<blockquote><p>And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. (Deu 18:19-22)</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, Amgus Buchan is an infamous liar and should be avoided at all cost. The WOF cronies think that positive confession is equal to prophecy.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What astonishes me about Angus, is that since the first mighty men conference (when I first became aware of him), he has been very adamant that South Africa is in revival. South Africa, according to Angus, has been in revival now for many many years. Despite the mass revival, things seem to be getting worse in South Africa.

When are we actually going to see the fruits of the so called revival that Angus promised? Crime is getting worse, false churches are jumping up like mushrooms. Angus&#039;s promises/prophecies certainly doesn&#039;t match up with reality. 
 “Deu 18:22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What astonishes me about Angus, is that since the first mighty men conference (when I first became aware of him), he has been very adamant that South Africa is in revival. South Africa, according to Angus, has been in revival now for many many years. Despite the mass revival, things seem to be getting worse in South Africa.</p>
<p>When are we actually going to see the fruits of the so called revival that Angus promised? Crime is getting worse, false churches are jumping up like mushrooms. Angus&#8217;s promises/prophecies certainly doesn&#8217;t match up with reality.<br />
 “Deu 18:22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452879</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452877&quot;&gt;Katherine Sawick&lt;/a&gt;.

Katherine Sawwick

So, you say it&#039;s hunky-dory to disobey Jesus who warned us to take heed that no man deceive us (Matthew 24:4).

There is a vast difference between the men of Athens and the men of Galatia. The men of Athens were unbelievers who did not know the true God (the unknown God, as Paul said). The men of Galatia were believers who fell prey to false teachers. Now, why do you think I brought the men of Galatia into the equation? Well, let us go there to see how Paul treated Christians who fell prey to false teachers so easily.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-9)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paul did not attack them. He ever so gently told them that the false teachers will end up in hell if they preached another gospel. Angus Buchan is in close cahoots, not only with the Promise Keepers, but also with Rodney Howard Brown. What does God say about those who climb into bed with false teachers?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God (is not saved). He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 Jn 1:9-11)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Angus Buchan is a partaker of their evil deeds and it seems to me that you also want to be a partaker of their evil deeds.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-452877" >Katherine Sawick</a>.</p>
<p>Katherine Sawwick</p>
<p>So, you say it&#8217;s hunky-dory to disobey Jesus who warned us to take heed that no man deceive us (Matthew 24:4).</p>
<p>There is a vast difference between the men of Athens and the men of Galatia. The men of Athens were unbelievers who did not know the true God (the unknown God, as Paul said). The men of Galatia were believers who fell prey to false teachers. Now, why do you think I brought the men of Galatia into the equation? Well, let us go there to see how Paul treated Christians who fell prey to false teachers so easily.</p>
<blockquote><p>I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-9)</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul did not attack them. He ever so gently told them that the false teachers will end up in hell if they preached another gospel. Angus Buchan is in close cahoots, not only with the Promise Keepers, but also with Rodney Howard Brown. What does God say about those who climb into bed with false teachers?</p>
<blockquote><p>Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God (is not saved). He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 Jn 1:9-11)</p></blockquote>
<p>Angus Buchan is a partaker of their evil deeds and it seems to me that you also want to be a partaker of their evil deeds.</p>
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		By: Katherine Sawick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Rika, for your well stated comment.  I feel exactly as you.  We accomplish much more good when we stand on common ground as Paul did when he spoke to the men of Athens.  He did not attack them for their false gods but spoke to them of the Unkown God.  We keep doors open when we do this and slam them shut forever when we, in arrogance, treat those we disagree with disrespectfully.  I check out sites like this to look at both sides of issues.  Sometimes I find information that is helpful in identifying books or teachings best left alone.  More often than not I find the critics are the ones with a problem.  Why spend all one&#039;s time criticizing others instead of glorifying God?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Rika, for your well stated comment.  I feel exactly as you.  We accomplish much more good when we stand on common ground as Paul did when he spoke to the men of Athens.  He did not attack them for their false gods but spoke to them of the Unkown God.  We keep doors open when we do this and slam them shut forever when we, in arrogance, treat those we disagree with disrespectfully.  I check out sites like this to look at both sides of issues.  Sometimes I find information that is helpful in identifying books or teachings best left alone.  More often than not I find the critics are the ones with a problem.  Why spend all one&#8217;s time criticizing others instead of glorifying God?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-451883&quot;&gt;Amelia&lt;/a&gt;.

Amelia

That is an amazing gift you have, to determine who is saved and who isn&#039;t.]]></description>
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<p>Amelia</p>
<p>That is an amazing gift you have, to determine who is saved and who isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-451924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-451883&quot;&gt;Amelia&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you saying that anyone who contends for the faith once delivered to the saints are not saved? In that case, Paul of Tarsus was not saved and is now in hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-451883" >Amelia</a>.</p>
<p>Are you saying that anyone who contends for the faith once delivered to the saints are not saved? In that case, Paul of Tarsus was not saved and is now in hell.</p>
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		By: Amelia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amelia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 07:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debbie I have been reading your articles and according to you everyone is false so all I can say, Jesus Christ died for you and my prayer is that you will find salvation. God Bless]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie I have been reading your articles and according to you everyone is false so all I can say, Jesus Christ died for you and my prayer is that you will find salvation. God Bless</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Lord is looking for humble servants not mighty men!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lord is looking for humble servants not mighty men!!</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/11/angus-buchan-and-the-promise-keepers/#comment-9308&quot;&gt;Michael&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael

I can do that too, but it wont show up with your name and little picture.  

[Edited:  It&#039;s been posted here too:   ]]></description>
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<p>Michael</p>
<p>I can do that too, but it wont show up with your name and little picture.  </p>
<p>[Edited:  It&#8217;s been posted here too:   </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 11:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the way it sadly is...Deborah I meant to place this comment under the topic &quot;Stand-up and be counted-MMC 2010&quot; Can you do that for me as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the way it sadly is&#8230;Deborah I meant to place this comment under the topic &#8220;Stand-up and be counted-MMC 2010&#8221; Can you do that for me as well.</p>
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