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		By: John Andrews UK/Ireland		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barbara Smyth wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;To be honest I find the writing of Jean Joubert to be disturbing.  I am glad to get off this site.  I appreciate your need to live the truth of the scriptures but you have picked on the wrong person in Angus Buchan.  I have read his book – his journey of faith -It is excellent.  I have been at a mission where he has preached the word of God – Excellent  He has the gift of discernment regarding people who come to missions.  He will be able to discern well what you have written.  What is wrong is you are uneasy in an atmosphere where God by His Spirit has the freedom to work.  The Holy Spirit comes into our lives by invitation and also comes upon us like He came upon the disciples in the scriptures.  I hope you receive the healing from God which you need and we all need.  Barbara
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The reason people are deceived by Angus Buchan (false teachers and prophets) is explained by Peter in the Bible. We are aware as Christians that we should examine a teaching by diligently looking to the Bible for confirmation of its accuracy. Once we are grounded in the word of God we are protected against dodgy preachers to a large degree. Our discernment improves with time and it becomes easier to reject. The methods used by Angus Buchan is based on audience manipulation and more importantly by using pseudo-christianity which will become clear by reading a short explanation that I have done recently after hearing Angus Buchan in Ireland. Jean Joubert has rightly seen some of the methods used by Angus Buchan and I will add just a snippet of a longer article that I am working on. We are not to forget that we are also gifted discernment if we have the indwelling Christ in us. 

Genuine or False Teachers?
How would you recognize False Teachers/Prophets/Believers?


In 2 Peter 1 we read about genuine teachers/believers. And in 2 Peter 2 we read about false teachers/believers. If you put these chapters side by side you will see the difference between true and false teachers/believers.


1. Different Source: Where does the message come from?


Peter says, &quot;We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ&quot; (1:16). And then he says the false teachers exploit you &quot;with stories they have made up&quot; (2:3). So the true teacher sources what he says from the Bible. The false teacher relies on his own creativity. He makes up his own message.


2. Different Message: What is the substance of the message?


For the true teacher, Jesus Christ is central. &quot;We have everything we need for life and godliness in Him&quot; (1:3). For the false teacher, Jesus is at the margins: &quot;They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them&quot; (2:1).


Notice the word secretly. It&#039;s rare for someone in church to openly deny Jesus. Movement away from the centrality of Christ is subtle. The false teacher will speak about how other people (himself) can help change your life, but if you listen carefully to what he is saying, you will see that Jesus Christ is not essential to his message.

** Now look at your post which praises &quot;Faith like Potatoes&quot; the foundational story of the expanding &quot;Fables of Angus Buchan&quot;. It is a &quot;story made up by Angus&quot; and is devious as it is interwoven with an obviously fictionalized &quot;real life story&quot;. The film is dramatized and Angus has used the movie industry to spread and enlarge his lies.

Angus Buchan says on his YouTube video of USA meeting in November 2013 that: &quot;You need to have a testimomy because it cannot be questioned&quot; because &quot;they who try and cast doubt on your testimony where not there&quot;.  He is creating his own message when a true teacher will use that which is sourced from the Bible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Smyth wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>To be honest I find the writing of Jean Joubert to be disturbing.  I am glad to get off this site.  I appreciate your need to live the truth of the scriptures but you have picked on the wrong person in Angus Buchan.  I have read his book – his journey of faith -It is excellent.  I have been at a mission where he has preached the word of God – Excellent  He has the gift of discernment regarding people who come to missions.  He will be able to discern well what you have written.  What is wrong is you are uneasy in an atmosphere where God by His Spirit has the freedom to work.  The Holy Spirit comes into our lives by invitation and also comes upon us like He came upon the disciples in the scriptures.  I hope you receive the healing from God which you need and we all need.  Barbara
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<p>The reason people are deceived by Angus Buchan (false teachers and prophets) is explained by Peter in the Bible. We are aware as Christians that we should examine a teaching by diligently looking to the Bible for confirmation of its accuracy. Once we are grounded in the word of God we are protected against dodgy preachers to a large degree. Our discernment improves with time and it becomes easier to reject. The methods used by Angus Buchan is based on audience manipulation and more importantly by using pseudo-christianity which will become clear by reading a short explanation that I have done recently after hearing Angus Buchan in Ireland. Jean Joubert has rightly seen some of the methods used by Angus Buchan and I will add just a snippet of a longer article that I am working on. We are not to forget that we are also gifted discernment if we have the indwelling Christ in us. </p>
<p>Genuine or False Teachers?<br />
How would you recognize False Teachers/Prophets/Believers?</p>
<p>In 2 Peter 1 we read about genuine teachers/believers. And in 2 Peter 2 we read about false teachers/believers. If you put these chapters side by side you will see the difference between true and false teachers/believers.</p>
<p>1. Different Source: Where does the message come from?</p>
<p>Peter says, &#8220;We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ&#8221; (1:16). And then he says the false teachers exploit you &#8220;with stories they have made up&#8221; (2:3). So the true teacher sources what he says from the Bible. The false teacher relies on his own creativity. He makes up his own message.</p>
<p>2. Different Message: What is the substance of the message?</p>
<p>For the true teacher, Jesus Christ is central. &#8220;We have everything we need for life and godliness in Him&#8221; (1:3). For the false teacher, Jesus is at the margins: &#8220;They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them&#8221; (2:1).</p>
<p>Notice the word secretly. It&#8217;s rare for someone in church to openly deny Jesus. Movement away from the centrality of Christ is subtle. The false teacher will speak about how other people (himself) can help change your life, but if you listen carefully to what he is saying, you will see that Jesus Christ is not essential to his message.</p>
<p>** Now look at your post which praises &#8220;Faith like Potatoes&#8221; the foundational story of the expanding &#8220;Fables of Angus Buchan&#8221;. It is a &#8220;story made up by Angus&#8221; and is devious as it is interwoven with an obviously fictionalized &#8220;real life story&#8221;. The film is dramatized and Angus has used the movie industry to spread and enlarge his lies.</p>
<p>Angus Buchan says on his YouTube video of USA meeting in November 2013 that: &#8220;You need to have a testimomy because it cannot be questioned&#8221; because &#8220;they who try and cast doubt on your testimony where not there&#8221;.  He is creating his own message when a true teacher will use that which is sourced from the Bible.</p>
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		By: Phantom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi! 

I just stumbled on this website and want to affirm most of the things said.  We are living in the last days and will find the enemy hard at work to try to deceive the Body of Christ.  Most people in the congregation I belong to are spiritually proud and at the same time blinded by the signs, wonders, miracles and prophecies made by false teachers / prophets.  The sad fact is that most of the Body of Christ worldwide would rather believe these lies than the Truth and I have been rebuked by them for being &quot;negative&quot; or &quot;harsh&quot; in descerning false doctrine and mass hypnosis in churches.

It is scary to see how the Kundalinin Force entered the Body of Christ under the name of the &quot;holy spirit&quot;...  The same &quot;force&quot; of Star Wars and Co. is now rife within the Charismatic / Pentecostal and Reformed Churches as well as within certain denominations of the Roman Catholic Church.  I have somewhat more to say, but will leave it until later.

Thanks for your information and warning the Body of Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! </p>
<p>I just stumbled on this website and want to affirm most of the things said.  We are living in the last days and will find the enemy hard at work to try to deceive the Body of Christ.  Most people in the congregation I belong to are spiritually proud and at the same time blinded by the signs, wonders, miracles and prophecies made by false teachers / prophets.  The sad fact is that most of the Body of Christ worldwide would rather believe these lies than the Truth and I have been rebuked by them for being &#8220;negative&#8221; or &#8220;harsh&#8221; in descerning false doctrine and mass hypnosis in churches.</p>
<p>It is scary to see how the Kundalinin Force entered the Body of Christ under the name of the &#8220;holy spirit&#8221;&#8230;  The same &#8220;force&#8221; of Star Wars and Co. is now rife within the Charismatic / Pentecostal and Reformed Churches as well as within certain denominations of the Roman Catholic Church.  I have somewhat more to say, but will leave it until later.</p>
<p>Thanks for your information and warning the Body of Christ.</p>
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		By: John Goodrich		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What gospel did Jesus preach? This question seems to be a stumbling block, as well as leg up for many preachers and pastors today. They use it to build up their ministries and gain financially. Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom of God, nothing else. This is the measure by which to test the spirits and preachings and make it easy to discern those who are false.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gospel did Jesus preach? This question seems to be a stumbling block, as well as leg up for many preachers and pastors today. They use it to build up their ministries and gain financially. Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom of God, nothing else. This is the measure by which to test the spirits and preachings and make it easy to discern those who are false.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/03/false-teachers-and-prophets-methods-of-operation/#comment-177920&quot;&gt;Starlight&lt;/a&gt;.

Starlight

Oh my, that is interesting, now I do feel like a chop.  I was under the distinct impression it was made by the same people who filemed Faith Like Potatoes.  Now I said this because I saw a program on TV where they spoke about FLP and Fire Proof (the making) as having something to do with one another.  hmmm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/03/false-teachers-and-prophets-methods-of-operation/#comment-177920" >Starlight</a>.</p>
<p>Starlight</p>
<p>Oh my, that is interesting, now I do feel like a chop.  I was under the distinct impression it was made by the same people who filemed Faith Like Potatoes.  Now I said this because I saw a program on TV where they spoke about FLP and Fire Proof (the making) as having something to do with one another.  hmmm.</p>
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		By: Starlight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) 
6 November, 2009 at 1:12 am 
Wow mom4truth thank you! I’ve always wondered how the movie Faith like Potatoes is viewed by people outside South Africa. Now there is a movie called Fire Proof as well which many people are finding to be a super dooper movie not realising who producers are the same people that did Angus’ faith like potatoes movie. And that they all fall under the Joel’s army camp.

Deborah, I love this site and the topics covered here. I learn A LOT. Thanks. I happened to read the above excerpt taken from a comment and Wikipedia states the following wrt the producers of the FLP and FP movies: i don&#039;t understand your statement
Production
Faith like Potatoes was produced by Frans Cronje from Global Creative Studios. The majority of the filming took place at Shalom Farm, the famous Buchan farm in Kwa-Zulu Natal.
Fireproof
Directed by	Alex Kendrick

Produced by	Alex Kendrick
Stephen Kendrick
David Nixon

Written by	Alex Kendrick and Stephen Kendrick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World)<br />
6 November, 2009 at 1:12 am<br />
Wow mom4truth thank you! I’ve always wondered how the movie Faith like Potatoes is viewed by people outside South Africa. Now there is a movie called Fire Proof as well which many people are finding to be a super dooper movie not realising who producers are the same people that did Angus’ faith like potatoes movie. And that they all fall under the Joel’s army camp.</p>
<p>Deborah, I love this site and the topics covered here. I learn A LOT. Thanks. I happened to read the above excerpt taken from a comment and Wikipedia states the following wrt the producers of the FLP and FP movies: i don&#8217;t understand your statement<br />
Production<br />
Faith like Potatoes was produced by Frans Cronje from Global Creative Studios. The majority of the filming took place at Shalom Farm, the famous Buchan farm in Kwa-Zulu Natal.<br />
Fireproof<br />
Directed by	Alex Kendrick</p>
<p>Produced by	Alex Kendrick<br />
Stephen Kendrick<br />
David Nixon</p>
<p>Written by	Alex Kendrick and Stephen Kendrick</p>
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		By: Eugene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael another good thing you can do is to stop using the flag of Israel

Amos 5:23 tells us about this star God which has its origins from Solomon and not FROM DAVID!!!!!

Another thing you can do is to stop believing the Jews who are ready building the temple and who followed the Talmud to which Jesus fought with them about so much are building the new temple in Jerusalem, and thus would provoke God and give the throne the ant-Christ would sit on!

There is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ. Repent and be baptized and follow his laws!

Do not be yoked together with the unbelievers!

May God bring a Change and show you real love and the truth, May you not be some of those he would send the lie to believe because you do not believe and follow his words!

Amen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael another good thing you can do is to stop using the flag of Israel</p>
<p>Amos 5:23 tells us about this star God which has its origins from Solomon and not FROM DAVID!!!!!</p>
<p>Another thing you can do is to stop believing the Jews who are ready building the temple and who followed the Talmud to which Jesus fought with them about so much are building the new temple in Jerusalem, and thus would provoke God and give the throne the ant-Christ would sit on!</p>
<p>There is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ. Repent and be baptized and follow his laws!</p>
<p>Do not be yoked together with the unbelievers!</p>
<p>May God bring a Change and show you real love and the truth, May you not be some of those he would send the lie to believe because you do not believe and follow his words!</p>
<p>Amen</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/03/false-teachers-and-prophets-methods-of-operation/#comment-166503&quot;&gt;Meyer Blignaut&lt;/a&gt;.

Meyer

Jesus loves Angus but HATES the false teaching that comes out of his mouth that sends hundreds if not thousands of people to hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/03/false-teachers-and-prophets-methods-of-operation/#comment-166503" >Meyer Blignaut</a>.</p>
<p>Meyer</p>
<p>Jesus loves Angus but HATES the false teaching that comes out of his mouth that sends hundreds if not thousands of people to hell.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jesus LOVES Angus Buchan]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barbara Smyth

Why do you call Oom Angus&#039; preaching excellent when he does not preach repentance and faith in Jesus Christ crucified for sinners? Below is &lt;span class=&quot;removed_link&quot; title=&quot;http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/19/stand-up-and-be-counted-might-men-conference-2010/#comment-8949&quot;&gt;my comment on another thread&lt;/span&gt;. It includes Oom Angus&#039; &quot;conversion&quot;. In it you will not find anything about Jesus Christ and forgiveness of sins. You may find his teaching excellent, but on what grounds do you defend it as Christian?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Oom Angus held his first campaign in 1990 in a hall in Ladysmith. The first night 6 people answered the alter call and by the end of the week 50 or 60 people came forward each night. That Saturday he preached at an army base and about 1000 soldiers ‘got serious with God’. This is how Oom Angus describes his preaching in Faith Like Potatoes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;That night set the pattern for the whole campaign. We opened with the music team, who led us in praise and worship. Then I got up and preached. My message was short, punchy, fiery and challenging, about our need to get back to God and a life of holiness. There’s only one way to live our lives for Jesus, and there can be no half-measures: we can’t serve two masters. I’m an evangelist, not a teacher, so although I preach from the Bible I use lots of everyday illustrations, too. I also stride around the stage a lot – I’m a man of the wide open spaces, and I feel too boxed-in in a pulpit!

Then we sang a meditative hymn, “Just as I am”, and I called forward all the people who wanted to serve Jesus Christ with all their hearts. I don’t go in for closed eyes or bowed heads: if anyone wants to serve the Lord, they have to come right out and do it in front of their neighbours and their friends. It takes courage to stand up in front of the whole town and come forward, and I came sown from the stage to meet them, and led them in the sinner’s prayer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is vintage Buchan. Can you spot the problem, Hawk? Where is the Gospel in that? The people did not go forward because of faith in Jesus Christ to repent and receive forgiveness for their sin. They went forward to repent and report for duty to serve Christ and live holy lives. This is not about what Jesus Christ has done for them, but about what they will do for Him. Oom Angus continues:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Dear Lord Jesus, I acknowledge that I’m a sinner. I repent of my sin, and ask you to come into my life and make a fresh start. I thank you that Jesus died for me on Calvary and rose again for my salvation. Thank you for saving me from depression, fear and sin; thank you for living in me and giving me a brand-new opportunity to live for you. Amen.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus Christ did not die on the cross to save us from ‘depression, fear and sin’. He died to take our punishment for breaking the Law and to save us from God’s wrath and judgment. If only Oom Angus would use everyday illustrations from the life of Jesus Christ and preach the Gospel, then people might come to faith in Him and not in their good intentions.

Oom Angus apparently does not see the need to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified for sinners. Maybe his own conversion story will explain why. Again from Faith Like Potatoes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;There was an air of expectancy in the church. The lay people were sharing their testimonies, and I sat there with my mouth open as I listened to them. For the first time in my life I saw strong men cry as they told how the Lord had taken care of their needs, restored their businesses and done wonderful things in their lives.

One guy was a building contractor. He started weeping as he told how his business had gone down and he had contemplated suicide. Then he found Jesus, and now he had a reason to live. Another man told how his marriage had been breaking up, when the Lord had brought him and his wife together again. Their stories pierced my heart. For years I had had no interest in religion, but these men’s words had the ring of truth. I wanted to be part of this kind of life; I wanted to know more.

“What about you? would you like to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour today?” I looked at the speaker and relised that was exactly what I wanted to do. Jill and I walked to the front of the church with many others, and knelt before the Lord. We prayed the sinner’s prayer together, saying sorry for our sins and asking Jesus to rule our hearts, and a miracle happened. Jesus came into our lives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the pattern that Oom Angus repeats over and over again. People might get saved at the campaigns, but then it is in spite of the preaching and not because of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Smyth</p>
<p>Why do you call Oom Angus&#8217; preaching excellent when he does not preach repentance and faith in Jesus Christ crucified for sinners? Below is <span class="removed_link" title="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/19/stand-up-and-be-counted-might-men-conference-2010/#comment-8949">my comment on another thread</span>. It includes Oom Angus&#8217; &#8220;conversion&#8221;. In it you will not find anything about Jesus Christ and forgiveness of sins. You may find his teaching excellent, but on what grounds do you defend it as Christian?</p>
<blockquote><p>Oom Angus held his first campaign in 1990 in a hall in Ladysmith. The first night 6 people answered the alter call and by the end of the week 50 or 60 people came forward each night. That Saturday he preached at an army base and about 1000 soldiers ‘got serious with God’. This is how Oom Angus describes his preaching in Faith Like Potatoes:</p>
<blockquote><p>That night set the pattern for the whole campaign. We opened with the music team, who led us in praise and worship. Then I got up and preached. My message was short, punchy, fiery and challenging, about our need to get back to God and a life of holiness. There’s only one way to live our lives for Jesus, and there can be no half-measures: we can’t serve two masters. I’m an evangelist, not a teacher, so although I preach from the Bible I use lots of everyday illustrations, too. I also stride around the stage a lot – I’m a man of the wide open spaces, and I feel too boxed-in in a pulpit!</p>
<p>Then we sang a meditative hymn, “Just as I am”, and I called forward all the people who wanted to serve Jesus Christ with all their hearts. I don’t go in for closed eyes or bowed heads: if anyone wants to serve the Lord, they have to come right out and do it in front of their neighbours and their friends. It takes courage to stand up in front of the whole town and come forward, and I came sown from the stage to meet them, and led them in the sinner’s prayer.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is vintage Buchan. Can you spot the problem, Hawk? Where is the Gospel in that? The people did not go forward because of faith in Jesus Christ to repent and receive forgiveness for their sin. They went forward to repent and report for duty to serve Christ and live holy lives. This is not about what Jesus Christ has done for them, but about what they will do for Him. Oom Angus continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Dear Lord Jesus, I acknowledge that I’m a sinner. I repent of my sin, and ask you to come into my life and make a fresh start. I thank you that Jesus died for me on Calvary and rose again for my salvation. Thank you for saving me from depression, fear and sin; thank you for living in me and giving me a brand-new opportunity to live for you. Amen.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus Christ did not die on the cross to save us from ‘depression, fear and sin’. He died to take our punishment for breaking the Law and to save us from God’s wrath and judgment. If only Oom Angus would use everyday illustrations from the life of Jesus Christ and preach the Gospel, then people might come to faith in Him and not in their good intentions.</p>
<p>Oom Angus apparently does not see the need to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified for sinners. Maybe his own conversion story will explain why. Again from Faith Like Potatoes:</p>
<blockquote><p>There was an air of expectancy in the church. The lay people were sharing their testimonies, and I sat there with my mouth open as I listened to them. For the first time in my life I saw strong men cry as they told how the Lord had taken care of their needs, restored their businesses and done wonderful things in their lives.</p>
<p>One guy was a building contractor. He started weeping as he told how his business had gone down and he had contemplated suicide. Then he found Jesus, and now he had a reason to live. Another man told how his marriage had been breaking up, when the Lord had brought him and his wife together again. Their stories pierced my heart. For years I had had no interest in religion, but these men’s words had the ring of truth. I wanted to be part of this kind of life; I wanted to know more.</p>
<p>“What about you? would you like to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour today?” I looked at the speaker and relised that was exactly what I wanted to do. Jill and I walked to the front of the church with many others, and knelt before the Lord. We prayed the sinner’s prayer together, saying sorry for our sins and asking Jesus to rule our hearts, and a miracle happened. Jesus came into our lives.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the pattern that Oom Angus repeats over and over again. People might get saved at the campaigns, but then it is in spite of the preaching and not because of it.</p></blockquote>
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Also read here please. 

Spiritual Deception, Revival and Angus Buchan

Prof. Johan Malan, South Africa (May 2010)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Smyth</p>
<p>Also read here please. </p>
<p>Spiritual Deception, Revival and Angus Buchan</p>
<p>Prof. Johan Malan, South Africa (May 2010)</p>
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