Strange as it my seem, I write [www.myhand.co.za] what I like and I like what I write. The article ‘The Gospel’ is a favourite.

Nowhere in Scripture do I find that the Lord or any of the apostles took kindly to those who twist Scripture out of context. Paul, Peter, John, James etc warn us against such people.

We seem to forget that the Lord Jesus overturned the tables in the Temple, as well as call the Pharisees a brood of vipers. We also seem to forget Scriptures like:Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

People who do not beleive that the Lord came in the flesh are defined as follow by the Word:1Jn 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Believers who are supposed to be the Bride of Christ have become too tollerant of blasphemy – all this in the cause of so called love. To tollerate blasphemy in the name of love is not the Love for the Lord Who says all over Scripture that to love Him is to keep His commandments – no those who tollerate blashemy must understand what the Lord Jesus said:Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

The church has in the name of love fornicated with error, another Jesus, another Spirit and another Gospel.

Part of the Body and precious Bride of Christ have fallen asleep and their lamps are not burning. Wake up Church!

I am scared when I read the comments here. The right thing to do is to measure what is said against scripture and question whether what was said was said in love. Everything we do should be in love, reflecting the way in which Jesus has done everything He has done. I find very little of that here. That goes for most of what I have seen here.

If it can’t be done in love and you just want to argue then argue properly, have a proper debate (or is it not biblical to have one). In a debate both sides of an argument is stated and evidence provided. For instance show what the URL is on comment
Mark Penrith
18 September, 2009 at 3:24 am
or are our eyes, minds and spirits not developed enough to comprehend understand or misunderstand what is there.

So if you please…

Steven

Amanda

>> you are in the grips of textual addiction. Tut-tut.

Ah man…that sucks!!

But seriously. Yes, they are seperating the Word of God from God. So you can throw the Bible away and just follow ‘Jesus’. What they fail to realise in all their giganticness (they must be close to the Alchamist level) that they can’t do this.

For Jesus Christ IS the Word made Flesh. If you try in anyway to change this you DENY Jesus Christ. And if in their minds they believe they have accomplished this then they DENY Jesus Christ.

The sad part is they honestly think that because they ‘say it and preach it and pass on the new message’ that it’s actually so – All they have done is created a new religion with a fake Christ where the Word (textual) no longer exists. Because what we speak now becomes the word instead. We become the gospel as per this horrendus emergent thinking.

>> “Cloud of Unknowing type of stuff is part of the missing pattern in our formation” what on earth is that? Don’t answer…I actually don’t want to know.

>> We must must must move beyond the textual addiction of modernity and move toward the place of quiet

Oh they need to hurry up and reach this place of quiet quickly – If I am not mistaken it comes with at least a 10 year pact to silence where they are not to make another peep or tweet! That can save a few hundred people from further deception.

No, no, they are giants, according to yoga enthusiast, Ron.

I am more convinced than ever that the deepest changes in how Christianity does it’s work will center around a new type of spirituality. We haven’t done a good job at helping people see how change and formation happen. And my personal hunch is we have defined the problem wrong. We seem to be sin-centric instead of imago dei-centric. Problem solving and holiness fixing, rather than freedom granting and life giving.

I spoke at a spirituality congress in South Africa where quite honestly I was a spiritual peon amongst giants. Willem Nichol, Trevor Hudson, Johan Geyser, Gys Du Plessis and Stephan Joubert all my elders and all more deeply experienced, were the docket of speakers at this conversation on the what and how of spirituality.

More than ever I am convinced apophatic spirituality, Cloud of Unknowing type of stuff is part of the missing pattern in our formation. We are clueless how to do Psalm 46.10 spirituality and instead of learning to be still (an interior condition) I think we have confused it with sitting still (an exterior posture).

The most dramatic thing I am reminded of on a nearly daily basis is just how modern, textual and information our spirituality is. Interestingly this is not where Bonaventure sat (think Soul’s Journey to God), or St Teresa of Avila (Interior Castle) or San Juan de La Cruz (St. John of the Cross) or earlier still John Cassian’s Conferences. I was reminded by these great mentors I shared the platform with just how rare the work is on interior silence is where we can watch the constructed egoic self in action. Where we take insight from what arises in our awareness and how to move toward the letting go of a centering practice (the main point of my talk Silence is the First Language of God {a quote from St John of the Cross})

We must must must move beyond the textual addiction of modernity and move toward the place of quiet. Only there can we see the judger gene, the real issue raised in the Genesis 1-3 narrative, and learn the letting go work that needs to be done for us to be deeply formed.

DTW, you are in the grips of textual addiction. Tut-tut.

Mark

>> It does not conflict with what you’ve written.

That’ll be the day…

Ah but I forgot who you are associated with, and this comment I made to you on the 24 Aug 09:

Submitted on 2009/08/24 at 6:03am

Mark

Ahh I see you are acqainted with Steve Khanya. He is Rogers ‘mentor’ or whatever. In fact I wrote an article about Steve who lumped born again Christians to the same category as those who started Inquisitions.

See above under RELATED POSTS FOR: Born Again Christians are Now Compared to Inquisitors of the Inquisitions

This conversation with you is a waste of my time, fortunately all is not lost – thankfully there is someone out there who is reading this and through the guidance of the Holy Spirit in their life will see right through the lies because they LOVE the Word of God.

Everything I’ve written about meditation can be found [AdMo: url removed]

It does not conflict with what you’ve written. You are punching into the wind.