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		By: Elmarie A		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE DOESN’T MATTER TO BRIAN MCLAREN

By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jul 15, 2010

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols?

For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, ”I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:14-18)

Irrational Philosophy And A-Logical Postmodern Word Games

Well, in the real world anyway, Christian doctrine couldn’t matter or McLaren wouldn’t say the stupid thing he says below. Apprising Ministries now points you to the following from Living Spiritual Teacher and  Emerging Church guru Brian McLaren:

    I grow more and more convinced that the way forward is a grass-roots alliance among emerging Pentecostals, progressive and post-Evangelicals, Missional Mainline Protestants, Progressive Catholics and Orthodox, and indigenous Christians … (Online source)

Forward to where? And how are regenerated Christians supposed to make religious alliances with progressive/liberals who deny Who Jesus and are still dead in their sins; or with apostates whose church has placed its—never changed—anathema upon the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself.

The above is a reference to the foolish “big tent” Christianity, which is the new hybrid form of postmodern Progressive Christianity and de-formation of the Christian faith they’re now refering to as Emergence Christianity. This is what Emergent Church guru McLaren begins laying out in A New Kind of Christianity. 

However, the only place that can work is the synthetic reality of Humpty Dumpty language where in their irrational phlosophy words mean whatever one wants them to mean. Again I serve notice: These posers will never have their big tent universalism as long as genuine Christian men like me are still breathing. 

Don’t be fooled by such as these; see them for who they are — and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them (Acts 20:30).

http://apprising.org/2010/07/15/christian-doctrine-doesnt-matter-to-brian-mclaren/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE DOESN’T MATTER TO BRIAN MCLAREN</p>
<p>By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jul 15, 2010</p>
<p>Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols?</p>
<p>For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, ”I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:14-18)</p>
<p>Irrational Philosophy And A-Logical Postmodern Word Games</p>
<p>Well, in the real world anyway, Christian doctrine couldn’t matter or McLaren wouldn’t say the stupid thing he says below. Apprising Ministries now points you to the following from Living Spiritual Teacher and  Emerging Church guru Brian McLaren:</p>
<p>    I grow more and more convinced that the way forward is a grass-roots alliance among emerging Pentecostals, progressive and post-Evangelicals, Missional Mainline Protestants, Progressive Catholics and Orthodox, and indigenous Christians … (Online source)</p>
<p>Forward to where? And how are regenerated Christians supposed to make religious alliances with progressive/liberals who deny Who Jesus and are still dead in their sins; or with apostates whose church has placed its—never changed—anathema upon the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself.</p>
<p>The above is a reference to the foolish “big tent” Christianity, which is the new hybrid form of postmodern Progressive Christianity and de-formation of the Christian faith they’re now refering to as Emergence Christianity. This is what Emergent Church guru McLaren begins laying out in A New Kind of Christianity. </p>
<p>However, the only place that can work is the synthetic reality of Humpty Dumpty language where in their irrational phlosophy words mean whatever one wants them to mean. Again I serve notice: These posers will never have their big tent universalism as long as genuine Christian men like me are still breathing. </p>
<p>Don’t be fooled by such as these; see them for who they are — and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them (Acts 20:30).</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://apprising.org/2010/07/15/christian-doctrine-doesnt-matter-to-brian-mclaren/"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://apprising.org/2010/07/15/christian-doctrine-doesnt-matter-to-brian-mclaren/</a></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1181&quot;&gt;Roger Saner&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope that&#039;s not what you said, but I&#039;ll accept the above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1181" >Roger Saner</a>.</p>
<p>Nope that&#8217;s not what you said, but I&#8217;ll accept the above.</p>
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		By: Roger Saner		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1183</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, that&#039;s the thing with deleted comments - the poor authors can&#039;t remember what they wrote in the first place! :p]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the thing with deleted comments &#8211; the poor authors can&#8217;t remember what they wrote in the first place! :p</p>
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		By: Roger Saner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh yes, now I remember what I wrote that was so offensive: something about &quot;I unthinkingly follow Brian into whatever thing he&#039;s into next.&quot; I&#039;m sure glad he&#039;s not into adventure sports, because I have a low tolerance for adrenaline, and it would be a really difficult decision to give up my own free will and take up skydiving, but if the Right Reverend Teacher-of-all-that-is-True McLaren does it, I guess I&#039;ll have to. Me and everyone else who&#039;s read one of Brian&#039;s books, because it&#039;s true, once you open a cover of something he&#039;s written you&#039;re automatically converted to whatever New World Order he&#039;s part of - it&#039;s true! I even heard that when publishing his books, Zondervan prays over each of them and puts a little spiritual goblin of lies which takes away the thinking capacity of any readers. It&#039;s diabolical, but true (yes, all of the expose&#039;s about what&#039;s *really* going on in the world will be published on the internet first).

Don&#039;t do it, Brian! For my sake! And my poor adrenaline tolerance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, now I remember what I wrote that was so offensive: something about &#8220;I unthinkingly follow Brian into whatever thing he&#8217;s into next.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure glad he&#8217;s not into adventure sports, because I have a low tolerance for adrenaline, and it would be a really difficult decision to give up my own free will and take up skydiving, but if the Right Reverend Teacher-of-all-that-is-True McLaren does it, I guess I&#8217;ll have to. Me and everyone else who&#8217;s read one of Brian&#8217;s books, because it&#8217;s true, once you open a cover of something he&#8217;s written you&#8217;re automatically converted to whatever New World Order he&#8217;s part of &#8211; it&#8217;s true! I even heard that when publishing his books, Zondervan prays over each of them and puts a little spiritual goblin of lies which takes away the thinking capacity of any readers. It&#8217;s diabolical, but true (yes, all of the expose&#8217;s about what&#8217;s *really* going on in the world will be published on the internet first).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t do it, Brian! For my sake! And my poor adrenaline tolerance!</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1173&quot;&gt;Roger Saner&lt;/a&gt;.

Roger:

&#062;&#062;  Ooh ooh, I got a comment deleted!

Not sure. Deleting/Moderating comments is no more my prob.  AdMo manages that side of things.

&#062;&#062;  As for Ramadaan, maybe next year (to respond to Iggy).

Send photo for the record.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1173" >Roger Saner</a>.</p>
<p>Roger:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  Ooh ooh, I got a comment deleted!</p>
<p>Not sure. Deleting/Moderating comments is no more my prob.  AdMo manages that side of things.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  As for Ramadaan, maybe next year (to respond to Iggy).</p>
<p>Send photo for the record.</p>
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		By: Trenz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shame you guys are more religious than the Muslims. Some questions. What vision did Peter get when he was still being &quot; separate&quot; as you are. 2ndly in Romans its talks about how we can eat meat sacrificed to other gods (small G). Guys its only by Gods grace that you are acceptable (obviously washed in His Blood). So imitate our Saviour who broke tradition and spoke to the woman at the well- and more and more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame you guys are more religious than the Muslims. Some questions. What vision did Peter get when he was still being &#8221; separate&#8221; as you are. 2ndly in Romans its talks about how we can eat meat sacrificed to other gods (small G). Guys its only by Gods grace that you are acceptable (obviously washed in His Blood). So imitate our Saviour who broke tradition and spoke to the woman at the well- and more and more.</p>
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		By: Roger Saner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ROFL!!! Sure, I&#039;ll send the photo - any particular self-condemning pose you&#039;d like to see me in?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL!!! Sure, I&#8217;ll send the photo &#8211; any particular self-condemning pose you&#8217;d like to see me in?</p>
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		By: Roger Saner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ooh ooh, I got a comment deleted! (Adds a mental +1).

However, I&#039;m not sure why. I re-read the rules, and guess I must be annoying you. Sorry.

As for Ramadaan, maybe next year (to respond to Iggy).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh ooh, I got a comment deleted! (Adds a mental +1).</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not sure why. I re-read the rules, and guess I must be annoying you. Sorry.</p>
<p>As for Ramadaan, maybe next year (to respond to Iggy).</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1166&quot;&gt;Trenz&lt;/a&gt;.

Trendz 

Oh good grief... 

So answer this:  the &lt;strong&gt;Trendz &lt;/strong&gt;is that the Bible says that all religions lead to the God of the bible?  YES/NO

I wont even go into the other scriptures you used...and the women at the well story is like soooo Dan Kimball, soooo last year.  Come let&#039;s get some new emergent examples of how to add your own interpretation to the Bible in 5 easy steps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/08/18/brian-mclaren-is-going-to-celebrate-ramadan-on-21-aug-09/#comment-1166" >Trenz</a>.</p>
<p>Trendz </p>
<p>Oh good grief&#8230; </p>
<p>So answer this:  the <strong>Trendz </strong>is that the Bible says that all religions lead to the God of the bible?  YES/NO</p>
<p>I wont even go into the other scriptures you used&#8230;and the women at the well story is like soooo Dan Kimball, soooo last year.  Come let&#8217;s get some new emergent examples of how to add your own interpretation to the Bible in 5 easy steps.</p>
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