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		By: donna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[donna]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for the phoney teachings of &quot;spiritual mapping&quot; and &quot;territorial spirits&quot;, the Bible says that Jesus DESTROYED THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL. He made an OPEN show of them triumphing over them. Light dispelled darkness, good overcame evil and Jesus rules and reigns from His throne in Heaven....AND the devil knows this~!~!~! Too bad cindy, rick and bob didn&#039;t catch this when they read the Bible~!!~!

It is the heighth of spiritual arrogance for cindy jacobs to suggest that she needs to teach spiritual mapping to &quot;drive out&#039; the &quot;territorial spirits&quot;, what she is really saying is that SHE has more power over the devil than the death and resurrection of Jesus does.....now that is more ARROGANT than anything else I have ever heard, even the demons know better and tremble~!~!~!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the phoney teachings of &#8220;spiritual mapping&#8221; and &#8220;territorial spirits&#8221;, the Bible says that Jesus DESTROYED THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL. He made an OPEN show of them triumphing over them. Light dispelled darkness, good overcame evil and Jesus rules and reigns from His throne in Heaven&#8230;.AND the devil knows this~!~!~! Too bad cindy, rick and bob didn&#8217;t catch this when they read the Bible~!!~!</p>
<p>It is the heighth of spiritual arrogance for cindy jacobs to suggest that she needs to teach spiritual mapping to &#8220;drive out&#8217; the &#8220;territorial spirits&#8221;, what she is really saying is that SHE has more power over the devil than the death and resurrection of Jesus does&#8230;..now that is more ARROGANT than anything else I have ever heard, even the demons know better and tremble~!~!~!</p>
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		By: donna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[cindy jacobs, rick joyner, and bob jones have spiritual diseases like gold dust-itis, feather-itis, and gem-itis, I think it comes from love of &quot;money-itis&quot; and &quot;fame-itis&quot;.
RANT RANT~!~!~!~!~! 
I have a real good idea, this IS NOT a RANT, how about all of us writing to her website every day with a scripture on false prophets and let her know that we know  she is a liar? We of course have to be nice but we should clog up her email and website with rebukes after rebuke....anybody game?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cindy jacobs, rick joyner, and bob jones have spiritual diseases like gold dust-itis, feather-itis, and gem-itis, I think it comes from love of &#8220;money-itis&#8221; and &#8220;fame-itis&#8221;.<br />
RANT RANT~!~!~!~!~!<br />
I have a real good idea, this IS NOT a RANT, how about all of us writing to her website every day with a scripture on false prophets and let her know that we know  she is a liar? We of course have to be nice but we should clog up her email and website with rebukes after rebuke&#8230;.anybody game?</p>
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		By: donna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&#062;&#062; Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don’t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response.
That’s a good one. Like: *rant* I wanna pull me hair out because of these false teachers, let’s go burn all their books *rant* Then we can laugh :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL....as in ha ha ha.....Okay everybody this is a RANT.....
I&#039;d like it if cindy jacobs (false prophets don&#039;t get capital letters for their names) came to my city for one of her &quot;conferences&quot;, I&#039;d be the first to stand up right in the middle of her lying &quot;sermon&#039; and let her know that I know she is a lying prophet and that NONE of her &quot;prophecies&quot; came to pass. 
Next time I toast marshmallows over an open fire I&#039;ll use one of her books to start the fire~!~!~!
Her books are so full of lies that even the fire would &quot;run&quot; away, I&#039;d have to douse in gasoline first~!~!~! RANT RANT RANT..............!~~!~!~!~!~!
Her books are full of &quot;hookum spookum&quot;, another word for spiritual nonsense that I am amazed that anybody believes such craziness~!~!~! Mormons and their fairytale religion make more sense than she does.
SOONER or later SOMEBODY has to publically stand up to her using Scripture and rebuke this woman for the all the  lies she has told in the name of God, in the name of Jesus and in the name of the Holy Ghost. 
Jesus said to the Pharisees &quot;if you eye is full of darkness how great is that darkness...cindy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&gt;&gt; Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don’t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response.<br />
That’s a good one. Like: *rant* I wanna pull me hair out because of these false teachers, let’s go burn all their books *rant* Then we can laugh 🙂</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL&#8230;.as in ha ha ha&#8230;..Okay everybody this is a RANT&#8230;..<br />
I&#8217;d like it if cindy jacobs (false prophets don&#8217;t get capital letters for their names) came to my city for one of her &#8220;conferences&#8221;, I&#8217;d be the first to stand up right in the middle of her lying &#8220;sermon&#8217; and let her know that I know she is a lying prophet and that NONE of her &#8220;prophecies&#8221; came to pass.<br />
Next time I toast marshmallows over an open fire I&#8217;ll use one of her books to start the fire~!~!~!<br />
Her books are so full of lies that even the fire would &#8220;run&#8221; away, I&#8217;d have to douse in gasoline first~!~!~! RANT RANT RANT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..!~~!~!~!~!~!<br />
Her books are full of &#8220;hookum spookum&#8221;, another word for spiritual nonsense that I am amazed that anybody believes such craziness~!~!~! Mormons and their fairytale religion make more sense than she does.<br />
SOONER or later SOMEBODY has to publically stand up to her using Scripture and rebuke this woman for the all the  lies she has told in the name of God, in the name of Jesus and in the name of the Holy Ghost.<br />
Jesus said to the Pharisees &#8220;if you eye is full of darkness how great is that darkness&#8230;cindy?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/22/the-latter-rain-revival-taking-dominion-with-another-gospel-and-another-christ/#comment-77796&quot;&gt;Burning Lamp&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062;&#062;  Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don’t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response.

That&#039;s a good one.  Like:  *rant*  I wanna pull me hair out because of these false teachers, let&#039;s go burn all their books *rant*   Then we can laugh :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/22/the-latter-rain-revival-taking-dominion-with-another-gospel-and-another-christ/#comment-77796" >Burning Lamp</a>.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don’t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good one.  Like:  *rant*  I wanna pull me hair out because of these false teachers, let&#8217;s go burn all their books *rant*   Then we can laugh 🙂</p>
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		By: Burning Lamp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don&#039;t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response. But please do consider that what we say impacts others and some who read this blog are tender and rants tend to rattle them. 

I understand your frustration, but the way I handle it is to take it to the Lord - He says to cast all our cares on Him. Also, getting into the Word gives us encouragment - read Jeremiah and see what HE want through. Read Foxes Book of Martyrs - the errors we see today are not new - may the peace of God reign in your heart and do NOT allow Satan to steal your joy. Okay?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, when you decide to rant, if you don&#8217;t mind, please precede your remarks with a disclaimer. You will be allowed to sound off without a response. Otherwise I assume your rant requires a response. But please do consider that what we say impacts others and some who read this blog are tender and rants tend to rattle them. </p>
<p>I understand your frustration, but the way I handle it is to take it to the Lord &#8211; He says to cast all our cares on Him. Also, getting into the Word gives us encouragment &#8211; read Jeremiah and see what HE want through. Read Foxes Book of Martyrs &#8211; the errors we see today are not new &#8211; may the peace of God reign in your heart and do NOT allow Satan to steal your joy. Okay?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/22/the-latter-rain-revival-taking-dominion-with-another-gospel-and-another-christ/#comment-77644&quot;&gt;donna&lt;/a&gt;.

donna

I recongise it now ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/22/the-latter-rain-revival-taking-dominion-with-another-gospel-and-another-christ/#comment-77644" >donna</a>.</p>
<p>donna</p>
<p>I recongise it now 😉</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;BL
Thanks for that comment to donna, I knew you would write something excellent on the topic at hand. :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Don&#039;t you recognize a rant when you see one? I sometimes rant about these lying prophets out of exasperation at the number of my friends they have stolen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>BL<br />
Thanks for that comment to donna, I knew you would write something excellent on the topic at hand. 🙂</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t you recognize a rant when you see one? I sometimes rant about these lying prophets out of exasperation at the number of my friends they have stolen.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thank you for the encouragement, nevertheless it is exasperating. I am openly hostile to being lied to so when these &quot;teachers&quot; try to pawn this crap off on me they are met with a closed mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the encouragement, nevertheless it is exasperating. I am openly hostile to being lied to so when these &#8220;teachers&#8221; try to pawn this crap off on me they are met with a closed mind.</p>
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		By: Burning Lamp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Donna, pray for your friends, give them information and then leave it in the Lord&#039;s hands. The most important question to ask them is about their salvation. 

Let them know you love them and are concerned about them. If they won&#039;t listen, love them anyway and keep praying. Only God can change their hearts and open their eyes. 

Even more than the false doctrines, our hatred should be directed to the one who is behind every false way, the enemy of our souls. He IS the enemy and he is the one we should acknowledge as the culprit. There is one enemy and ONLY one. 

May the Lord give you wisdom and help you in your walk. Don&#039;t give into discouragement - that is what always gets me. Satan knows our weaknesses. This life will always be a struggle against the flesh and Satan. But we have a wonderful Savior with the Blessed Hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, pray for your friends, give them information and then leave it in the Lord&#8217;s hands. The most important question to ask them is about their salvation. </p>
<p>Let them know you love them and are concerned about them. If they won&#8217;t listen, love them anyway and keep praying. Only God can change their hearts and open their eyes. </p>
<p>Even more than the false doctrines, our hatred should be directed to the one who is behind every false way, the enemy of our souls. He IS the enemy and he is the one we should acknowledge as the culprit. There is one enemy and ONLY one. </p>
<p>May the Lord give you wisdom and help you in your walk. Don&#8217;t give into discouragement &#8211; that is what always gets me. Satan knows our weaknesses. This life will always be a struggle against the flesh and Satan. But we have a wonderful Savior with the Blessed Hope.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Burning Lamp wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Donna, one more comment.
Think about what the suggestion of burning the Koran did? It stirred up horrible anger and threats of violence. If that pastor had gone through with his plan, consider the consequences. More violence, more killing of innocents, more evil acts. A brilliant plan – for the REAL enemy, Satan. 
Your proposed burning of false doctrineal books would result in a similar negative reaction although not violent in a physical way. You would be portrayed as a person of hatred and they would be seen in a sympathetic light. Afterall, they are free to promote their beliefs just as are cults, etc. The ONLY effective weapon against them is the TRUTH and the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. I truly hope that you change your views as they are not helpful to the cause of Christ.
Yes, PRAY, and go share the TRUTH and as the Bible says, “SPEAK THE TRUTH IN LOVE”. Be ready to give an answer and do it gently. That speaks volumes. Share the Gospel, win souls and disciple them while there is still time. 
What you are advocating is USURPING the Holy Spirit and DISOBEDIENCE to the Word of God. That, my dear is not wise.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I speak out of frustration more than anything else...so many people I know are following these false teachers and I am mad about that. How did they end up following liars? These false teachings steal their minds and it is like trying to speak to a Mormon or somebody else in a cult.
So please except my apologies, I just had another of my friends go down that path following Rick Joyner, cindy jacobs, and Todd Bentley. And warning these people is like talking to the wall, they don&#039;t understand. One of my friends does the &quot;third heaven&#039; visits, that is no more than astral travel with a christian name attached to it.

I am not &quot;usurping&#039; God&#039;s place, I am expressing my anger  and sheer frustration at false teachers and false prophets. Maybe I am not expressing my anger rightly and for that I apologize. It was only recently that I found another of my friends taken by Todd Bentley and others like him.
The whole thing is crazy. One can&#039;t even go to a church anywhere without running into those who follow the domionists liars.
Men like Rick Joyner are dividing the Body of christ with heresies.
And muslims are killing people all over the world because they follow a false prophet.
After awhile I just think to myself that if my friends want to follow liars then who am I to tell them otherwise?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burning Lamp wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Donna, one more comment.<br />
Think about what the suggestion of burning the Koran did? It stirred up horrible anger and threats of violence. If that pastor had gone through with his plan, consider the consequences. More violence, more killing of innocents, more evil acts. A brilliant plan – for the REAL enemy, Satan.<br />
Your proposed burning of false doctrineal books would result in a similar negative reaction although not violent in a physical way. You would be portrayed as a person of hatred and they would be seen in a sympathetic light. Afterall, they are free to promote their beliefs just as are cults, etc. The ONLY effective weapon against them is the TRUTH and the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. I truly hope that you change your views as they are not helpful to the cause of Christ.<br />
Yes, PRAY, and go share the TRUTH and as the Bible says, “SPEAK THE TRUTH IN LOVE”. Be ready to give an answer and do it gently. That speaks volumes. Share the Gospel, win souls and disciple them while there is still time.<br />
What you are advocating is USURPING the Holy Spirit and DISOBEDIENCE to the Word of God. That, my dear is not wise.</p></blockquote>
<p>I speak out of frustration more than anything else&#8230;so many people I know are following these false teachers and I am mad about that. How did they end up following liars? These false teachings steal their minds and it is like trying to speak to a Mormon or somebody else in a cult.<br />
So please except my apologies, I just had another of my friends go down that path following Rick Joyner, cindy jacobs, and Todd Bentley. And warning these people is like talking to the wall, they don&#8217;t understand. One of my friends does the &#8220;third heaven&#8217; visits, that is no more than astral travel with a christian name attached to it.</p>
<p>I am not &#8220;usurping&#8217; God&#8217;s place, I am expressing my anger  and sheer frustration at false teachers and false prophets. Maybe I am not expressing my anger rightly and for that I apologize. It was only recently that I found another of my friends taken by Todd Bentley and others like him.<br />
The whole thing is crazy. One can&#8217;t even go to a church anywhere without running into those who follow the domionists liars.<br />
Men like Rick Joyner are dividing the Body of christ with heresies.<br />
And muslims are killing people all over the world because they follow a false prophet.<br />
After awhile I just think to myself that if my friends want to follow liars then who am I to tell them otherwise?</p>
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