Comments on: Joyce Meyer is a Little God With a Big Christ Consciousness

By: Robbie

Robbie — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:13:53 +0000

Mat 15:14: Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Mind the ditch Janny

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:56:18 +0000

In reply to janny. Janny This applies to you,

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2Ti 4:3-4)

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:28:47 +0000

In reply to janny.

Dear Janny

you said “I listen to Joyce Meyer alot. study to show thyself approved.”

So you listen to Joyce Meyer’s teachings and then study the bible based on what she says?

She believes she is a god and does not sin, are you telling me you believe that you are a little God and have no sin? Or do you search the scripture to see if what she says is true?

Do you tithe all you money to her in the hopes you can be as rich as she is? I’ll give you the secret to her riches.

1) Go to bible school and pass or don’t pass no one needs to know and get a phychology degree as this will really let the people in your congregation know that you understand them well.
2) Set up a church.
3) Start preaching.
4) Find out what entertains your congregation so you can talk more about those kinds of things.
5) Find your nieche, in other words, find out what you are good at speaking about that pull more people into your church.
6) Start talking about tithing, seeding, first fruits etc.
7) Start by taking 1 offering.
8) Increase offering time to twice a service.
9) Write books on so called biblical topics all the while you are using psychology instead to attack the masses.
10) More tithing sermons, seeding, offerings as possible.
11) Tell them if they give money they will get back 100 fold from God.
12) Tell people your church is growing and you need a bigger fancier church building and ask for donations. Of course once the building is paid for, just keep those donations coming it.
13) Keep this up and you will be rich like Joyce is.

Taaaaddaaaaaaa!!!

By: janny

janny — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:19:57 +0000

I listen to Joyce Meyer alot. study to show thyself approved. I have studied my dear. if you have any issue in believing what the scriptures says then you have a big problem and need help. I pray that your heart will be open and receptive for the word of God to penetrate and change you. Christ is the sure way to God. for in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

By: RJ

RJ — Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:55:43 +0000

I’m coming to an older post/article, I realize.

Mike Evans, knowing your background, your input is GREATLY appreciated!!

And for those who accused you, Deborah, of “being jealous” of Joyce Meyer… rubbish! Or here in the States we might say, “hogwash”!! Good grief, I’m not jealous of her either — but rather I would NOT want to be standing in her shoes on Judgment Day, would you?!…

Pity, my women friends still just love Joyce sooo much! *sigh* Hey, why is it some 17-20 years ago I was head over heels about her, too…. yet now, to even SEE her on the TV station, it’s all I can do to QUICKLY change the channel? I hope that’s from better discernment!

Deborah, thanks for transcribing her video even though it’s been 6 years back… I’m not really a youtube person, so I tend to read… and it’s easier to inspect that way.

Quote from her own words: Oh I tell you I feel good about this. Don’t you feel good about it? (Amen from the audience). /END QUOTE

As the Bible says in the last days people will not endure sound doctrine, but will want their ears TICKLED. Boy, here’s a GREAT example of that!! “feel good”!!!….

And then, I all but GASPED at her last quotes: Verse 6; “I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.”

It is important that we know who we are and that we walk with that power consciousness.” /END QUOTE

“power consciousness”?? I’ve always been vague and just plain ignorant RE: new age terms, but does this ever sound like new age!! Also that part about “children of the Most High” ~ oh my goodness!!! Reminds me soooo much of the demon possessed girl in Acts 16!!!!!

By: Deborah (discerning the world)

Deborah (discerning the world) — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:44:45 +0000

Hi Mike

Thank you for your comment. It’s really appreciated!

By: Mike Evans

Mike Evans — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:12:28 +0000

P.S. I hope I am safe in assuming that people reading articles on this website know that Kris Vallotton, whose sermon on false prophets is posted above, is himself a false prophet of the NAR, being Bill Johnson’s Senior Associate pastor at the cult known as Bethel Church in Redding, CA. Here is a link to a good article on his heresies (if knowing he is a pastor at Bethel is not enough for some readers)
http://www.crossencounters.us/2013/10/bethel-church-false-gospel-of-kris.html

By: Mike Evans

Mike Evans — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:30:11 +0000

Great article Deborah. No genuine minister of the gospel would be receiving endorsement from an openly New Age website. Joyce is no doubt a well-intentioned but self-trained Bible teacher who appears to collect doctrines from various false teachers and re-fashion them to her own ‘down-to-earth’ style. The fact that certain things which she teaches are valid (egs. the need to deny self-though her lavish lifestyle makes this truth a Pharisaical one coming from her lips; the importance of forgiving and being obedient to the Word regardless of feelings etc.) makes the added false doctrines even more persuasive and deadly. People who would never listen to Copeland or Dollar will receive the same leaven tailored for them by ‘straight-talkin’ Joyce’. (Thus her censoring of the source of her ‘little god’ teaching, a lie tsught openly by false minister John G. Lake, who influenced many including Kenneth Hagin, Copeland and the NAR false prophets Mike Bickle and Bill Johnson, who have resurrected the so-called ‘Healing Rooms’ which are daily wreaking havoc in the lives of many. An ‘angel’ -of course- led Johnson to do this when he visited the Lake house in Spokane and ‘grave-sucked’ the anointing from his burial site.)
By the way, I think your title for this article is very funny. Only last month I was shocked to see on the website of false prophet Jeremy Lopez (a buddy of Patricia King and many other dangerous and deluded NAR types) that the term ‘Christ consciousness’ is being openly bandied about. http://www.identitynetwork.net/apps/store/default.asp?view=profile&itemid=57888
The covert approach is gone. The false church is now boldly using New Age terminology.
This article from Charisma (which should correctly re-name itself Charismania) is an eye-opener. NAR supporters head up this magazine, and NAR authoress Jennifer Le Claire has an article on the ‘great awakening’ which is “on the horizon” and the (false) prophets and prophetesses (such as Cindy Jacobs,proudly pictured on this month’s cover) who are ‘speaking it forth’. Without a doubt, those of us who can see this stuff for the demonic deception that it is are in the minority and viewed as ‘the enemy’, the ‘scoffers’ which ‘God’ warned Beth Moore would try to “get in the way” of it. Could the rapture which these folk are denying be perversely viewed by these apostates as God’s judgment on those who refused to “get with the program”? Both the false, global church and the New Age movement (who have much in common spiritually) are predicting that those who oppose their one-world agenda will have to be gotten rid of.
http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/prophecy/24622-god-s-wake-up-call

By: melanie

melanie — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 05:27:39 +0000

Thank you! Tom. It’s a shame that she begin attack for unmasking false teacher, preacher, prophets, and those who she expose get mad at her too. Why can’t these people say thank for warning them about these so call christians. Is it because they live in darkness and want to follow darkness only, and hate the fact that she is rightfully exposing a their so called shepherd/dess.

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 04:14:49 +0000

In reply to melanie. melanie wrote,

@Deborah All those people who say that your wrong, well how do they know that they’re not wrong, hey maybe you are wrong about this woman. However you did that you have did your study on Joyce Meyer, and not some false study from some false guide, so yeah those Joycers(Joyce Meyer followers) just hate the fact that you are shining the on their goddess. Matter of fact maybe it was God who exposed her, he was just using you as a vessel, am I’m right about that.

The Word of God is our final authority. Anything said and taught that are not in harmony with his Word is wrong, especially when the doctrine of salvation comes to the fore.

Anyone who runs on ahead [of God] and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ [who is not content with what He taught] does not have God; but he who continues to live in the doctrine (teaching) of Christ [does have God], he has both the Father and the Son. (2 John verse 9). o Jesus said to those Jews who had believed in Him, If you abide in My word [hold fast to My teachings and live in accordance with them], you are truly My disciples. (John 8:31).

So, as you can see, it is God who exposes the false teachers. However, you must abode in the Truth (in the Bible) in order to be able to identify false teachers. If you don;t, you are not abiding in Jesus' Word.