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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Mark 

Just because we speak out against Amir (a Jew) and his friends, doesn&#039;t make us anti-Israel. 

We speak out against false teaching no matter their ethnicity.

Remember you and your wife were as much a heathen before you were saved as the Jews are now, before they (the remnant) will be saved during the 7 year Tribulation period. God has already turned His focus back onto His people Israel. If you&#039;ve haven&#039;t noticed the Gentiles are returning at a rapid pace to their old heathen ways.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Your neighbour includes all of Israel and every Jew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mark </p>
<p>Just because we speak out against Amir (a Jew) and his friends, doesn&#8217;t make us anti-Israel. </p>
<p>We speak out against false teaching no matter their ethnicity.</p>
<p>Remember you and your wife were as much a heathen before you were saved as the Jews are now, before they (the remnant) will be saved during the 7 year Tribulation period. God has already turned His focus back onto His people Israel. If you&#8217;ve haven&#8217;t noticed the Gentiles are returning at a rapid pace to their old heathen ways.</p>
<p>Matthew 22:36-40<br />
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?<br />
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.<br />
38 This is the first and great commandment.<br />
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.<br />
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.</p>
<p>Your neighbour includes all of Israel and every Jew.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2025/08/11/jack-hibbs-bonhoeffer-pseudo-believers/#comment-523129&quot;&gt;Mark Meadows&lt;/a&gt;.

I want to start by emphasising that I am not an anti-Semite. Holding such a stance would contradict the everlasting promises of God to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendants. My perspective on the Jewish people is informed by viewing them through the teachings of Jesus Christ, who clearly stated that salvation is of the Jews (as found in John 4:22). That makes Him a Jew, doesn’t it? Think for a moment:

•	He was circumcised on the eighth day after his birth. 
•	As an infant, he was presented at the Temple in Jerusalem, and sacrifices required by the Law of Moses were offered on his behalf.
•	He regularly attended synagogue services on the Sabbath and taught there.
•	He participated in major Jewish feasts, including Passover, Tabernacles (Sukkot), and the Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah).
•	His family travelled to Jerusalem for Passover, and Jesus observed Passover throughout his life, including the Last Supper.
•	Jesus observed the Sabbath, although he often challenged overly strict interpretations of Sabbath regulations and emphasised its purpose for human well-being
•	In short, Jesus followed the core customs of first-century Judaism, but he often challenged how some religious leaders interpreted and applied them.
	
That gives me a serious incentive to love his people as much as He commands me to love Him, and to be sharply aware of God’s warnings in several places in Scripture to those who fail to do so.


“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father&#039;s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen 12:1-3).

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.” (Galatians 3:7-9).

The Jews, however, based their entrance into the Kingdom of heaven on being the natural children (descendants) of Abraham. He promptly refuted their claim by saying,  “And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.” (Matthew 3:9).

Aha, doesn’t this prove that God has rejected his chosen people and had literally “unchosen” them? Perish the thought. He has set them aside temporarily so that the gospel could reach the uncircumcised (Gentiles) (Romans 11).

Now, concerning the notion that no one can claim to be truly saved if they “’reject Israel’ then you reject Jesus. Consequently, God will reject you from heaven.” I doubt whether the fact that Jesus is a Jew, born into a chosen Jewish nation, crossed most Christians’ minds when they were saved. 

Why do I say this? Because when the Holy Spirit convicts us of- sin, righteousness, and judgment, the concept of the Jews as God&#039;s chosen people isn&#039;t brought up in the context of salvation. 

I, for one, was so convinced that I was on a fast track to eternal damnation that I never once thought about the Jews as God’s chosen people. Was I saved at that time? Surely, I was because I received my redemption by faith alone like a little child. Nothing else came to mind to gain or maintain my salvation. 

Having said this, it is always good to remember the following:

“Whoever touches you [the Jews] touches the apple of His eye.” (Zechariah 2:8; Deuteronomy 32:10; Psalm 17:8).

When the biblical text refers to an individual as the &quot;apple of God&#039;s eye,&quot; it signifies that the person receives exceptional care, affection, and protection from God. Conversely, Replacement Theology presents a distinct and complex issue, as it challenges God&#039;s fidelity and His commitments to the nation of Israel. If God is perceived as unable to fulfil His promises to Israel, it raises doubts about His capability to honour His promises to the Gentiles.

In conclusion, I must add that when I started to study the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, I began to realise that the Jews are God’s chosen people FOR HIS NAME’S SAKE. I began to write several articles on anti-Semitism and Replacement Theology in my original blog (which is now closed). I received a lot of flak from people who call themselves Christians. I was truly flabbergasted by this and eventually came to realise that their churches taught them so without checking it out from the Bible. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2025/08/11/jack-hibbs-bonhoeffer-pseudo-believers/#comment-523129" >Mark Meadows</a>.</p>
<p>I want to start by emphasising that I am not an anti-Semite. Holding such a stance would contradict the everlasting promises of God to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendants. My perspective on the Jewish people is informed by viewing them through the teachings of Jesus Christ, who clearly stated that salvation is of the Jews (as found in John 4:22). That makes Him a Jew, doesn’t it? Think for a moment:</p>
<p>•	He was circumcised on the eighth day after his birth.<br />
•	As an infant, he was presented at the Temple in Jerusalem, and sacrifices required by the Law of Moses were offered on his behalf.<br />
•	He regularly attended synagogue services on the Sabbath and taught there.<br />
•	He participated in major Jewish feasts, including Passover, Tabernacles (Sukkot), and the Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah).<br />
•	His family travelled to Jerusalem for Passover, and Jesus observed Passover throughout his life, including the Last Supper.<br />
•	Jesus observed the Sabbath, although he often challenged overly strict interpretations of Sabbath regulations and emphasised its purpose for human well-being<br />
•	In short, Jesus followed the core customs of first-century Judaism, but he often challenged how some religious leaders interpreted and applied them.</p>
<p>That gives me a serious incentive to love his people as much as He commands me to love Him, and to be sharply aware of God’s warnings in several places in Scripture to those who fail to do so.</p>
<p>“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father&#8217;s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen 12:1-3).</p>
<p>“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.” (Galatians 3:7-9).</p>
<p>The Jews, however, based their entrance into the Kingdom of heaven on being the natural children (descendants) of Abraham. He promptly refuted their claim by saying,  “And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.” (Matthew 3:9).</p>
<p>Aha, doesn’t this prove that God has rejected his chosen people and had literally “unchosen” them? Perish the thought. He has set them aside temporarily so that the gospel could reach the uncircumcised (Gentiles) (Romans 11).</p>
<p>Now, concerning the notion that no one can claim to be truly saved if they “’reject Israel’ then you reject Jesus. Consequently, God will reject you from heaven.” I doubt whether the fact that Jesus is a Jew, born into a chosen Jewish nation, crossed most Christians’ minds when they were saved. </p>
<p>Why do I say this? Because when the Holy Spirit convicts us of- sin, righteousness, and judgment, the concept of the Jews as God&#8217;s chosen people isn&#8217;t brought up in the context of salvation. </p>
<p>I, for one, was so convinced that I was on a fast track to eternal damnation that I never once thought about the Jews as God’s chosen people. Was I saved at that time? Surely, I was because I received my redemption by faith alone like a little child. Nothing else came to mind to gain or maintain my salvation. </p>
<p>Having said this, it is always good to remember the following:</p>
<p>“Whoever touches you [the Jews] touches the apple of His eye.” (Zechariah 2:8; Deuteronomy 32:10; Psalm 17:8).</p>
<p>When the biblical text refers to an individual as the &#8220;apple of God&#8217;s eye,&#8221; it signifies that the person receives exceptional care, affection, and protection from God. Conversely, Replacement Theology presents a distinct and complex issue, as it challenges God&#8217;s fidelity and His commitments to the nation of Israel. If God is perceived as unable to fulfil His promises to Israel, it raises doubts about His capability to honour His promises to the Gentiles.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I must add that when I started to study the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, I began to realise that the Jews are God’s chosen people FOR HIS NAME’S SAKE. I began to write several articles on anti-Semitism and Replacement Theology in my original blog (which is now closed). I received a lot of flak from people who call themselves Christians. I was truly flabbergasted by this and eventually came to realise that their churches taught them so without checking it out from the Bible. </p>
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		By: Mark Meadows		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greetings from Fort Worth Texas

First thank you for your research and sharing your article JACK HIBBS, BONHOEFFER &#038; OTHER PSEUDO BELIVERS

I’ve attached a link to this Facebook clip of Amir Tsarfati and Jack Hibbs and hopefully you’ll be able to open it. If not I’m sure you could find it in a search.

In the clip Amir Tsarfati is standing with Jack Hibbs and claims that if you &quot;reject Israel&quot; then you reject Jesus. Consequently, God will reject you from heaven.

In your article you mention Bob Pearle, pastor at Birchman Baptist in Fort Worth, Texas which my wife and I attend. Long before I read your article I found myself starting to pick up subtle conflicting messages in his sermons that were questionable. In any event over time he has aligned himself with Amir Tsarfati, Jack Hibbs, Barry Stagner and others, taking prophecy cruises with them and making sure they are included in our churches yearly calendar. This year holding “The Behold Israel Conference”.

Below is a letter I recently wrote to one of the senior elders in our church. He responded back:

Mark,
Please bear in mind that Pastor is currently on an Alaska cruise with Amir and Jack. When we have brought these sort of concerns to Pastor, they have not been well received. He seems to be trying to build a legacy for himself using Amir and Jack as his sponsors, so don&#039;t be surprised if there is no response to your concerns.


Sir,

Last night I shared with my wife a new video clip of Amir Tsarfati coming right out and warning all Christians, that our salvation is in jeopardy and that we could loose our place in the kingdom if we do not stand with Israel, as well as other claims and comments and that we might want to check ourselves and be on the right side of Israel or we will be left behind in the rapture! Nothing at all about come to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved! (My wife wrote me back after viewing it and said wow, he did it! He really came out in front of an audience and actually said this, and proclaiming his wisdom as the authority!) Jack Hibbs was also in that video. It was like Amir was playing bad cop and Hibbs was attempting to play good cop, trying to justify to the crowd what Amir was saying.

My wife and I of course didn&#039;t need Hibbs as a translator. Amir was clear, crystal clear! For me it was a slap in the face to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 

I wanted you to know first because I care about the members of this church.

I am personally drafting a letter to the pastor only. I prayed about going to the elders and deacons with my concerns as outlined in the grievance steps, but feel he has influence over some of them not to mention one recent addition who’s qualifications are questionable. Since I would most undoubtedly be dismissed as a non church goer, as I work out of town most days, or a loaner, I decided it&#039;s best not tell others for risk of causing dissension in the church as The Lord would really disapprove, at least for now until I can make sure I’m in alignment with The Lords Word. The letter will be simple, not criticizing but sounding the warning and citing this recent video and other documentation and WHY are they allowed into our church!

At least I will have done something. This has been very difficult for me doing nothing and watching this deception take over. I&#039;m at peace with it and most importantly I&#039;m standing up for the Father, Son and Holy Spirt 

Best, 

Mark

Any scripture to support my pursuits and concerns would be greatly appreciated. God Bless You]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings from Fort Worth Texas</p>
<p>First thank you for your research and sharing your article JACK HIBBS, BONHOEFFER &amp; OTHER PSEUDO BELIVERS</p>
<p>I’ve attached a link to this Facebook clip of Amir Tsarfati and Jack Hibbs and hopefully you’ll be able to open it. If not I’m sure you could find it in a search.</p>
<p>In the clip Amir Tsarfati is standing with Jack Hibbs and claims that if you &#8220;reject Israel&#8221; then you reject Jesus. Consequently, God will reject you from heaven.</p>
<p>In your article you mention Bob Pearle, pastor at Birchman Baptist in Fort Worth, Texas which my wife and I attend. Long before I read your article I found myself starting to pick up subtle conflicting messages in his sermons that were questionable. In any event over time he has aligned himself with Amir Tsarfati, Jack Hibbs, Barry Stagner and others, taking prophecy cruises with them and making sure they are included in our churches yearly calendar. This year holding “The Behold Israel Conference”.</p>
<p>Below is a letter I recently wrote to one of the senior elders in our church. He responded back:</p>
<p>Mark,<br />
Please bear in mind that Pastor is currently on an Alaska cruise with Amir and Jack. When we have brought these sort of concerns to Pastor, they have not been well received. He seems to be trying to build a legacy for himself using Amir and Jack as his sponsors, so don&#8217;t be surprised if there is no response to your concerns.</p>
<p>Sir,</p>
<p>Last night I shared with my wife a new video clip of Amir Tsarfati coming right out and warning all Christians, that our salvation is in jeopardy and that we could loose our place in the kingdom if we do not stand with Israel, as well as other claims and comments and that we might want to check ourselves and be on the right side of Israel or we will be left behind in the rapture! Nothing at all about come to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved! (My wife wrote me back after viewing it and said wow, he did it! He really came out in front of an audience and actually said this, and proclaiming his wisdom as the authority!) Jack Hibbs was also in that video. It was like Amir was playing bad cop and Hibbs was attempting to play good cop, trying to justify to the crowd what Amir was saying.</p>
<p>My wife and I of course didn&#8217;t need Hibbs as a translator. Amir was clear, crystal clear! For me it was a slap in the face to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. </p>
<p>I wanted you to know first because I care about the members of this church.</p>
<p>I am personally drafting a letter to the pastor only. I prayed about going to the elders and deacons with my concerns as outlined in the grievance steps, but feel he has influence over some of them not to mention one recent addition who’s qualifications are questionable. Since I would most undoubtedly be dismissed as a non church goer, as I work out of town most days, or a loaner, I decided it&#8217;s best not tell others for risk of causing dissension in the church as The Lord would really disapprove, at least for now until I can make sure I’m in alignment with The Lords Word. The letter will be simple, not criticizing but sounding the warning and citing this recent video and other documentation and WHY are they allowed into our church!</p>
<p>At least I will have done something. This has been very difficult for me doing nothing and watching this deception take over. I&#8217;m at peace with it and most importantly I&#8217;m standing up for the Father, Son and Holy Spirt </p>
<p>Best, </p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>Any scripture to support my pursuits and concerns would be greatly appreciated. God Bless You</p>
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