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	Comments on: The New Israel: Who is Behind the Violence and Mayhem in SA? (Part 4)	</title>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2021/07/15/new-israel-behind-violence-mayhem-south-africa-part-4/#comment-496540&quot;&gt;R.J.&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi R.J. Good to hear from you. Yes indeed, the entire world is in turmoil. These are but the birth pangs of what lies ahead. However, we shouldn&#039;t forget that Jesus Christ coming as a thief in the night at the Pretribulation Rapture, the world will be peaceful, albeit a false peace, and not in turmoil.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No signs are given for the Rapture as is for the Second Coming of Christ to the earth. We know that in the occult the Phoenix&#039;s rise from the ashes is an allegory of chaos anarchy that eventually leads to peace, love, unity, and stability among all the religions and nations. This will be the time when Antichrist will step in to sign a peace covenant with Israel for seven years. However, there is no need for me to tell you these things because you already know them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2021/07/15/new-israel-behind-violence-mayhem-south-africa-part-4/#comment-496540" >R.J.</a>.</p>
<p>Hi R.J. Good to hear from you. Yes indeed, the entire world is in turmoil. These are but the birth pangs of what lies ahead. However, we shouldn&#8217;t forget that Jesus Christ coming as a thief in the night at the Pretribulation Rapture, the world will be peaceful, albeit a false peace, and not in turmoil.</p>
<blockquote><p>But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)</p></blockquote>
<p>No signs are given for the Rapture as is for the Second Coming of Christ to the earth. We know that in the occult the Phoenix&#8217;s rise from the ashes is an allegory of chaos anarchy that eventually leads to peace, love, unity, and stability among all the religions and nations. This will be the time when Antichrist will step in to sign a peace covenant with Israel for seven years. However, there is no need for me to tell you these things because you already know them.</p>
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		By: R.J.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom and Deborah, are you guys okay &quot;over there&quot; in SA?  My, my but your country&#039;s in great turmoil!  Yet you know, with SO MANY countries the world over in great uprising &#038; turmoil, don&#039;t we think this is SCREAMING that Jesus is coming super soon??  I do!!  Amen &#038; Maranatha!

Thanks for the article, BTW, I will do just diligence to come back &#038; read more in detail as time permits.

Mike Evans -- always a blessing to read your comments here as well!  And yep, I DO BELIEVE &quot;indeed&quot; satan has a false gospel &#038; false teacher &quot;on every corner&quot;!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom and Deborah, are you guys okay &#8220;over there&#8221; in SA?  My, my but your country&#8217;s in great turmoil!  Yet you know, with SO MANY countries the world over in great uprising &amp; turmoil, don&#8217;t we think this is SCREAMING that Jesus is coming super soon??  I do!!  Amen &amp; Maranatha!</p>
<p>Thanks for the article, BTW, I will do just diligence to come back &amp; read more in detail as time permits.</p>
<p>Mike Evans &#8212; always a blessing to read your comments here as well!  And yep, I DO BELIEVE &#8220;indeed&#8221; satan has a false gospel &amp; false teacher &#8220;on every corner&#8221;!!</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2021/07/15/new-israel-behind-violence-mayhem-south-africa-part-4/#comment-496534&quot;&gt;Mike Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

I Mike, Thank you for your comment. Yes, numbers mean nothing. 

Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment: (Exodus 23:2)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2021/07/15/new-israel-behind-violence-mayhem-south-africa-part-4/#comment-496534" >Mike Evans</a>.</p>
<p>I Mike, Thank you for your comment. Yes, numbers mean nothing. </p>
<p>Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment: (Exodus 23:2)</p>
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		By: Mike Evans		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, Tom. Very well researched and presented. 
I recently heard a pastor on yt state &quot;Satan has filled the earth with false gospels&quot;. Sadly, many are on an endless cycle of going from one to another. 
I got off that &quot;merry-go-round of death&quot; in 2015. Your articles and those of Deborah&#039;s were of great help to me at that time. It seems to be getting more difficult to persuade people to leave cultic churches and movements. They feel there is &quot;safety in numbers&quot;. They should consider that there were possibly 7b people drowned in The Flood and just 8 faithful believers saved. Not much safety in numbers in that situation! 
My best to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Tom. Very well researched and presented.<br />
I recently heard a pastor on yt state &#8220;Satan has filled the earth with false gospels&#8221;. Sadly, many are on an endless cycle of going from one to another.<br />
I got off that &#8220;merry-go-round of death&#8221; in 2015. Your articles and those of Deborah&#8217;s were of great help to me at that time. It seems to be getting more difficult to persuade people to leave cultic churches and movements. They feel there is &#8220;safety in numbers&#8221;. They should consider that there were possibly 7b people drowned in The Flood and just 8 faithful believers saved. Not much safety in numbers in that situation!<br />
My best to you.</p>
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