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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-505302&quot;&gt;Rory&lt;/a&gt;.

Rory

To earnestly contend for the faith is not pointing fingers (Jude 1:3). You are the one pointing fingers. Your entire comment is a personal attack on me, presumably due to a lack of knowledge to rebuke me from Scripture. If you do not know Scripture, it is best to remain silent. We are commanded to &quot;...have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.&quot; (Ephesians 5:11). If you find this irksome, I suggest you speak to God about it and tell Him that you don&#039;t feel that He has the right to cammand you not to have fellowship with false doctrines but rather reprove them.&quot;

Paul and Peter also did not agree on matters. What did Paul do? He rebuked Peter in public, and Peter repented. So, the only thing for you to do, is to repent like Peter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-505302" >Rory</a>.</p>
<p>Rory</p>
<p>To earnestly contend for the faith is not pointing fingers (Jude 1:3). You are the one pointing fingers. Your entire comment is a personal attack on me, presumably due to a lack of knowledge to rebuke me from Scripture. If you do not know Scripture, it is best to remain silent. We are commanded to &#8220;&#8230;have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.&#8221; (Ephesians 5:11). If you find this irksome, I suggest you speak to God about it and tell Him that you don&#8217;t feel that He has the right to cammand you not to have fellowship with false doctrines but rather reprove them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul and Peter also did not agree on matters. What did Paul do? He rebuked Peter in public, and Peter repented. So, the only thing for you to do, is to repent like Peter.</p>
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		By: Rory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 08:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading all the comments it becomes clear to me that so many bible experts miss the fact that the gospel is for the ordinary (simple) people. Not only for those who have studied for a number of degrees etc and I often wonder whether they will pass the test of scrutiny. Especially as far as their daily walk with the Lord is concerned. He that is without sin ...... Also just wonder whether you are the watchdog for for every preacher in every town. And please don&#039;t tell me everyone of them don&#039;t have some interpretation on some matter that does not meet you critique even pau and Peter disagreed at times. Please build up you own church and own following instead of being some self appointed watchdog. To be honest I have thing about these self appointed watchdogs. I have read the reports and comments of those replying to you and I get the impression there is some instability there. Finally, are you the only one that is right? Is only your interpretation right. Even John MacArthur and John Piper differ on matters. So everyone else on the other side I&#039;d wrong. Methodists and Anglicans differ. Which I&#039;d right. Baptists and evangelicals differ?? Pray about this and I trust you will receive clarification. PLEASE no need to reply - your, and everyone pointing fingers just irks me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all the comments it becomes clear to me that so many bible experts miss the fact that the gospel is for the ordinary (simple) people. Not only for those who have studied for a number of degrees etc and I often wonder whether they will pass the test of scrutiny. Especially as far as their daily walk with the Lord is concerned. He that is without sin &#8230;&#8230; Also just wonder whether you are the watchdog for for every preacher in every town. And please don&#8217;t tell me everyone of them don&#8217;t have some interpretation on some matter that does not meet you critique even pau and Peter disagreed at times. Please build up you own church and own following instead of being some self appointed watchdog. To be honest I have thing about these self appointed watchdogs. I have read the reports and comments of those replying to you and I get the impression there is some instability there. Finally, are you the only one that is right? Is only your interpretation right. Even John MacArthur and John Piper differ on matters. So everyone else on the other side I&#8217;d wrong. Methodists and Anglicans differ. Which I&#8217;d right. Baptists and evangelicals differ?? Pray about this and I trust you will receive clarification. PLEASE no need to reply &#8211; your, and everyone pointing fingers just irks me.</p>
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		By: Lorraine du Pisani		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2022 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love Deborah. I am 57 years of age. All my mentors are long gone and with the Lord. When they died, all hell brake loose. I have no place in the church, because I am a dispensationalist. I only had Hebrews 13:7; to cling to. I still need 36 credits for my B.Th. degree; but due to the fact that I shall not compromise, I shall not get my qualification. I was told in so many words that I am too old; because I teach doctrine. I value your blogs when I wonder if I am the error one. We moved to Oudtshoorn a year ago. It is difficult to find a church. But; the King is coming for his church. Till be meet in the air; God bless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Deborah. I am 57 years of age. All my mentors are long gone and with the Lord. When they died, all hell brake loose. I have no place in the church, because I am a dispensationalist. I only had Hebrews 13:7; to cling to. I still need 36 credits for my B.Th. degree; but due to the fact that I shall not compromise, I shall not get my qualification. I was told in so many words that I am too old; because I teach doctrine. I value your blogs when I wonder if I am the error one. We moved to Oudtshoorn a year ago. It is difficult to find a church. But; the King is coming for his church. Till be meet in the air; God bless.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496165</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496157&quot;&gt;Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Rev Martin Strange and his &#039;strange&#039; doctrines of demons is full blown Hebrew Roots. He believes in the Kabbalah&#039;s Yeshua.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496157" >Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Rev Martin Strange and his &#8216;strange&#8217; doctrines of demons is full blown Hebrew Roots. He believes in the Kabbalah&#8217;s Yeshua.</p>
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		By: Ida Geyser		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496161</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for those links Tom, they are very helpful.  It proves my suspicion on Hansie&#039;s strange commentary on prayer on radio rsg, and even stranger videos.  

Also strange when Prof Hansie Wolmarans said on the Facebook discussion &quot;how dare anybody ask him what his believes are&quot;  yet Jean Oosthuizen made it seem to the public that this guy is a Christian with insightful theological knowledge on prayer. Such fraudsters.  If they simply said they are &#039;Spiritualist&#039; then the talk and their comments would have all made sence.  

Thank you for shedding light on the confusion.  

Regards,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those links Tom, they are very helpful.  It proves my suspicion on Hansie&#8217;s strange commentary on prayer on radio rsg, and even stranger videos.  </p>
<p>Also strange when Prof Hansie Wolmarans said on the Facebook discussion &#8220;how dare anybody ask him what his believes are&#8221;  yet Jean Oosthuizen made it seem to the public that this guy is a Christian with insightful theological knowledge on prayer. Such fraudsters.  If they simply said they are &#8216;Spiritualist&#8217; then the talk and their comments would have all made sence.  </p>
<p>Thank you for shedding light on the confusion.  </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496159</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496158&quot;&gt;Ida Geyser&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ida, You have taken me back many years when I used to comment on Kletskerk, of which Jean Oosthuizen was the moderator. I called it &quot;Swetskerk&quot; because of the filthy language they used. It made the ape species, from which we allegedly evolved, hang their heads in shameful disgust for having to be associated with some of the vilest human beings. They blasphemed God in the most horrendous ways. Hansie Wolmarans (Hans Worsie) is no better. Read &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.glodiebybel.co.za/hansie-wolmarans/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

I have also come across an interesting article in which Jean Oosthuizen promotes mysticism (the kind Mosaiek Kerk teaches and promotes). Indeed, the foul fowls of the earth and birds of the air (demons) are beginning to flock together very rapidly.

https://www.litnet.co.za/mistieke-teologie-dalk-die-kerk-se-reddingsboei/?fbclid=IwAR3XgnehACStJHTsrYcw3l9dYcQS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496158" >Ida Geyser</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ida, You have taken me back many years when I used to comment on Kletskerk, of which Jean Oosthuizen was the moderator. I called it &#8220;Swetskerk&#8221; because of the filthy language they used. It made the ape species, from which we allegedly evolved, hang their heads in shameful disgust for having to be associated with some of the vilest human beings. They blasphemed God in the most horrendous ways. Hansie Wolmarans (Hans Worsie) is no better. Read <a target="_blank" href="https://www.glodiebybel.co.za/hansie-wolmarans/"  rel="nofollow ugc">here.</a></p>
<p>I have also come across an interesting article in which Jean Oosthuizen promotes mysticism (the kind Mosaiek Kerk teaches and promotes). Indeed, the foul fowls of the earth and birds of the air (demons) are beginning to flock together very rapidly.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.litnet.co.za/mistieke-teologie-dalk-die-kerk-se-reddingsboei/?fbclid=IwAR3XgnehACStJHTsrYcw3l9dYcQS"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.litnet.co.za/mistieke-teologie-dalk-die-kerk-se-reddingsboei/?fbclid=IwAR3XgnehACStJHTsrYcw3l9dYcQS</a></p>
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		By: Ida Geyser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear DTW, 

Tom, I used to listen to Riekert&#039;s teaching videos on youtube. Some was quite pleasant on the ear, but lately its like he is pushing an unbiblical theory. While reading your articles on Riekert, there came on the radio rsg a talk about prayer on &#039;Uit n ander hoek&#039; met Jean Oosthuizen.

The main talker was Prof Hansie Wolmarans. He made Riekert seem like small fry. 

Prof Hansie seems to be an unbeliever but yet he speaks authoritatively about prayer. Then the prof dared another theologian to criticise his youtube video. I went and had a look at it...   couldn&#039;t listen past the first 3 minutes. A very strange new gospel alla Hansie.  He debunks the resurrection and the Bible. Calling it:

 &#039;the resurrection in context&#039; 

DTW    -  Please give some insight on Prof Hansie&#039;s views.  I apologise if this is said under the wrong catagory. 

https://www.facebook.com/100004267093011/posts/1746589762159910/?app=fbl

Regards,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear DTW, </p>
<p>Tom, I used to listen to Riekert&#8217;s teaching videos on youtube. Some was quite pleasant on the ear, but lately its like he is pushing an unbiblical theory. While reading your articles on Riekert, there came on the radio rsg a talk about prayer on &#8216;Uit n ander hoek&#8217; met Jean Oosthuizen.</p>
<p>The main talker was Prof Hansie Wolmarans. He made Riekert seem like small fry. </p>
<p>Prof Hansie seems to be an unbeliever but yet he speaks authoritatively about prayer. Then the prof dared another theologian to criticise his youtube video. I went and had a look at it&#8230;   couldn&#8217;t listen past the first 3 minutes. A very strange new gospel alla Hansie.  He debunks the resurrection and the Bible. Calling it:</p>
<p> &#8216;the resurrection in context&#8217; </p>
<p>DTW    &#8211;  Please give some insight on Prof Hansie&#8217;s views.  I apologise if this is said under the wrong catagory. </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/100004267093011/posts/1746589762159910/?app=fbl"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/100004267093011/posts/1746589762159910/?app=fbl</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496154&quot;&gt;Rev Martin Strange&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Rev Martin Strange. First of all, the New Testament was not written in Hebrew. It was written In Koine Greek. Jesus Christ&#039;s and his disciples&#039; mother tongue was Aramaic, which had some influences on some of the books in the New Testament. You ask:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why on earth would Yeshua condemn the pharisaical teachings but commend their ‘ex cathedra’ pronouncements?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Jesus Himself provided the answer when He rebuked their hypocrisies by telling the people to do what they told them to do but not to follow their examples. Their talk was inconsistent with their walk.

By the way, are you a Hebrew Roots proponent?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496154" >Rev Martin Strange</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Rev Martin Strange. First of all, the New Testament was not written in Hebrew. It was written In Koine Greek. Jesus Christ&#8217;s and his disciples&#8217; mother tongue was Aramaic, which had some influences on some of the books in the New Testament. You ask:</p>
<blockquote><p>Why on earth would Yeshua condemn the pharisaical teachings but commend their ‘ex cathedra’ pronouncements?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Jesus Himself provided the answer when He rebuked their hypocrisies by telling the people to do what they told them to do but not to follow their examples. Their talk was inconsistent with their walk.</p>
<p>By the way, are you a Hebrew Roots proponent?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 07:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496153&quot;&gt;Ida Geyser&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ida. Yep, he simply deletes what he dislikes because exhortationms may damage his image. He is a very popular pastor in South Africa, and he would do anything to maintain his popularity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/09/06/the-true-message/#comment-496153" >Ida Geyser</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ida. Yep, he simply deletes what he dislikes because exhortationms may damage his image. He is a very popular pastor in South Africa, and he would do anything to maintain his popularity.</p>
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		By: Peter Simmonds		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 05:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your great work on exposing the fake christians. Like the fake jews spoken of by Jesus in Rev. 2:9;3:9! Keep up the good work, 1 Cor. 15:58. I was a missionary in South Africa for almost 20 years. 1991-2010 and found many Churches compromised in true Doctrine, I was laughed at and about many times for standing for the True Doctrine as written in the K.J. Bible and they following and swallowing the poison of the Perversions written by the followers of the father of lies! They love dogma and deception over Doctrine and Divine interpretation of the Holy Spirit! They love Allegory that way they can read anything into the words rather than seeing what is really there! A Word in Context with a Co-text to interpret is the best Way to interpret the Scriptures! Shalom Brethren, am now living in Germany retired!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your great work on exposing the fake christians. Like the fake jews spoken of by Jesus in Rev. 2:9;3:9! Keep up the good work, 1 Cor. 15:58. I was a missionary in South Africa for almost 20 years. 1991-2010 and found many Churches compromised in true Doctrine, I was laughed at and about many times for standing for the True Doctrine as written in the K.J. Bible and they following and swallowing the poison of the Perversions written by the followers of the father of lies! They love dogma and deception over Doctrine and Divine interpretation of the Holy Spirit! They love Allegory that way they can read anything into the words rather than seeing what is really there! A Word in Context with a Co-text to interpret is the best Way to interpret the Scriptures! Shalom Brethren, am now living in Germany retired!</p>
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