Comments on: The Cross – Christian or Pagan?

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:55:49 +0000

Hi Trudy…

Google says this about Rick Osborne.

He had a passion for Jesus Christ and believed he was doing everything that he was called to do. Then one day, when Rick least expected it, Jesus appeared to him and told him that He was going to teach him personally and directly from the Bible.
https://rick-osborne.com

Matthew 24:23
“Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.”

Rick Osborne’s Jesus is an angel of light (Satan). When we are born again the Holy Spirit comes to abide in us and He teachers us. Not a so called physical appearance of Jesus.

John 16:13 KJV
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

By: Trudy Kotze

Trudy Kotze — Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:51:51 +0000

I came across Rick Osborne and would like to get your opinion on him, my friends invited me to watch his videos. I started watching it and couldn’t continue… Thank you for this website.. I have learned so much.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:39:47 +0000

In reply to Kobus.

Dear Kobus :hi:

Thank you for your comment, yip we are well 🙂

Yes, Gentiles have basically returned to Paganism, as it was in the Old Testament. Now the times has come in these last days as God turns His attention back to the apple of His eye; Israel. To rescue those who will believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God from the coming antichrist.

By: Kobus

Kobus — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 12:01:03 +0000

Good afternoon Tom and Deborah, I hope everything is well?

This is a very intersting article, thank you. It’s funny, just this morning I was watching a video on youtube about how paganism is making a comeback in Europe and some other places in the world as well.

Actually I wanted to ask, have you guys heard of this fellow called Paul Anthony Wallis? I think he is Australian. I came acrros his videos yesterday and even watcehd one. I will paste the link to the video I watched. He has many other and even wrote some books as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdG5h4OOAZ4

Link to latest book:

https://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Eden-Genesis-Created-Engineered/dp/1789043875

I don’t now, to me he just looks like another new ager or progessive.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Sun, 05 Jul 2020 07:49:45 +0000

In reply to Lisa. Dear Lisa Thank you so much for that comment. I felt exactly the same way.

By: Lisa

Lisa — Fri, 03 Jul 2020 21:00:18 +0000

While being confined to my home during Covid-19, my Heavenly Father has convicted me of cleaning out items in my house which I thought was okay to have. Yes, the cross is very pagan! I have also been reading a lot. In G.H. Pember’s book, ” Earth’s Earliest Ages” on page 189, he quotes from another book called “Isis Unveiled” – “The vertical line being the male principle, and the horizontal the female, out of the union of the two at the intersection point is formed the cross – the oldest symbol out of the Egyptian history of gods.”…and also says, “the philosophical cross of the high-Masons.”
David W. Daniels explains the history of the cross with other religions centuries before Jesus in his book, “Babylon Religion” on page 212.
And if you need more proof, “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop goes in depth of numerous so called Christian symbols that are actually pagan. Most Christmas and holiday decorations are pagan. I like the way Hislop explains everything. I was even convicted to get rid of an iron decoration of a dove with an olive leaf. Both Pember and Hislop explain how the dove is also pagan.
The Bible says in Exodus 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.”
I am thankful that my Heavenly Father loves me enough that He has shown me things that never occurred to me that upsets Him. I do not want to anger God, nor do I want His wrath, so in obedience, I have thrown out crosses, almost completely all my holiday decorations (pagan ones), Mickey Mouse (yep, even Mickey – he is in an image form), most of everything that was Disney related, anything that was in an images form, such as dolphins, star fish, etc.
I am from Florida, so getting rid of Disney stuff and water figurines was the most difficult. However, once I started obeying and threw items out of my house into the garbage (instead of donating), I felt so relieved like a burden was being released and I began to feel free and definitely closer to my Heavenly Father!

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 17:20:56 +0000

Any icon of whatever shape or form, including the cross as it is used, worn and displayed throughout the world, is idolatrous. And I fully agree "The display of a cross, even for a genuine Christian, is totally in vain as well."