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	Comments on: Stephan Joubert se Deurlees van die Boek Openbaring in Koronatyd Herbesoek &#8211; Deel 1	</title>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496930&quot;&gt;Artus Malherbe&lt;/a&gt;.

Hullo Artus. Dit is jammer dat jy nie vanuit my artikels kan agterkom wat die leerstelling is wat ek navolg nie.

VERLOSSING/REDDING

Ek glo dat Jesus Christus, die Seun van God, deur sy Vader gestuur is om te soek en te red wat verlore is. (Johannes 17:3); aan ’n vloekhout (kruis) gehang het om as vervloekte (Galasiërs 3:10) die sondes van alle mense (2 Petrus 3:9) op Hom te neem sodat sy Vader dit in Hom (aan die kruis) kon oordeel. (Jesaja 53:10). Die enigste voorwaarde om deelgenootskap te kry in sy volbragte werk aan die kruis, is geloof. (Hebreërs 11:6). Allenlik hulle wat glo soos die Skrif sê, het die ewige lewe.

Ek glo vas dat God sy uitverkore volk (die Jode) vir ’n bepaalde tyd opsy gesit het sodat die evangelie (deur Paulus se prediking) aan ons, die Heidene, gebring kon word. (Romeine 11:1-36). God sal dan weer, wanneer die volheid van die heidene ingekom het (Romeine 11:25), sy volk  (die oorblyfsel), volgens sy beloftes aan Abraham, Isak en Jakob, gestand doen en baie tot redding lei. Stephan Joubert, daarenteen, glo dat God sy beloftes op die gelowiges uit alle volke, tale en stamme oorgeplaas het (Verplasings Teologie), en dat die twaalf stamme van Israel nie bestaan nie. (Lees gerus Sagaria 12:1-14 wat Joubert se aweregse siening geheel en al weerlê). 

ESKATOLOGIE

WEGRAPING

Ten einde sy beloftes aan Abraham, Isak en Jakob in werking te stel, moet Hy alle gelowiges onder die heidene (sy kerk) geheel en al vanaf die aarde wegneem sodat Hy sy regverdige oordele oor die aarde kan uitgiet. Ek verwys na die sg. Wegraping (“harpazo”) (Johannes 14:1; 1 Korintiërs 15;52;  1 Tessalonisense 4:13-18; Openbaring 3:10).

SEWEJARIGE VERDRUKKING

Ons lees reeds in die Deuteronomium 4:29-30 dat ’n Groot Verdrukking oor Israel sal kom om hulle terug te bring na God (Jesaja 26:9). Die Sewejarige Verdrukking, wat ook bekend staan as Jakob se benoudheid (Jeremia 30:7), is die laaste week van Daniel se profesie van sewentig sewetalle (490 jaar – Daniel 9:24-27) wat God oor Israel uitgespreek het. 483 jare daarvan is reeds letterlik vervul wat beteken dat die laaste sewe jaar ook letterlik vervul sal word. Waarom die lang tydperk tussen die vervulling van die 483 jare en die laaste sewe jare? Lees gerus weer 2 Petrus 3:9 vir die antwoord. 

TWEEDE KOMS

Daar is verskeie verskille tussen  die Wegraping en die Tweede Koms van Christus waarvan die belangrikste sekerlik die feit is dat met die Wegraping Jesus terugkom vir sy bruid wanneer die ontmoeting in die lug sal plaasvind (1 Tessalonisense 4:17), terwyl Jesus met sy Tweede Koms na die aarde wanneer sy voete die Olyfberg in twee gaan splyt (Sagaria 14:4) die nasies sal oordeel omdat hulle die oorblyfsel van sy volk so sleg behandel het. 

BEMA TROON OORDEEL

Die Bema Troon oordeel vind plaas net na die Wegraping wanneer die elke lid van Christus se Bruid se werke deur vuur getoets sal word om te bepaal hoedanig die loon van elkeen sal wees. (1 Korintiërs 3:7-15. 

WIT TROON OORDEEL

Gelowiges en ongelowiges word nie gesamentlik geoordeel nie. Die Wit troon oordeel is net vir die ongelowiges wat eers na die duisendjarige vrederyk van Christus op aarde gaan plaasvind (Openbaring 20:11-15).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496930" >Artus Malherbe</a>.</p>
<p>Hullo Artus. Dit is jammer dat jy nie vanuit my artikels kan agterkom wat die leerstelling is wat ek navolg nie.</p>
<p>VERLOSSING/REDDING</p>
<p>Ek glo dat Jesus Christus, die Seun van God, deur sy Vader gestuur is om te soek en te red wat verlore is. (Johannes 17:3); aan ’n vloekhout (kruis) gehang het om as vervloekte (Galasiërs 3:10) die sondes van alle mense (2 Petrus 3:9) op Hom te neem sodat sy Vader dit in Hom (aan die kruis) kon oordeel. (Jesaja 53:10). Die enigste voorwaarde om deelgenootskap te kry in sy volbragte werk aan die kruis, is geloof. (Hebreërs 11:6). Allenlik hulle wat glo soos die Skrif sê, het die ewige lewe.</p>
<p>Ek glo vas dat God sy uitverkore volk (die Jode) vir ’n bepaalde tyd opsy gesit het sodat die evangelie (deur Paulus se prediking) aan ons, die Heidene, gebring kon word. (Romeine 11:1-36). God sal dan weer, wanneer die volheid van die heidene ingekom het (Romeine 11:25), sy volk  (die oorblyfsel), volgens sy beloftes aan Abraham, Isak en Jakob, gestand doen en baie tot redding lei. Stephan Joubert, daarenteen, glo dat God sy beloftes op die gelowiges uit alle volke, tale en stamme oorgeplaas het (Verplasings Teologie), en dat die twaalf stamme van Israel nie bestaan nie. (Lees gerus Sagaria 12:1-14 wat Joubert se aweregse siening geheel en al weerlê). </p>
<p>ESKATOLOGIE</p>
<p>WEGRAPING</p>
<p>Ten einde sy beloftes aan Abraham, Isak en Jakob in werking te stel, moet Hy alle gelowiges onder die heidene (sy kerk) geheel en al vanaf die aarde wegneem sodat Hy sy regverdige oordele oor die aarde kan uitgiet. Ek verwys na die sg. Wegraping (“harpazo”) (Johannes 14:1; 1 Korintiërs 15;52;  1 Tessalonisense 4:13-18; Openbaring 3:10).</p>
<p>SEWEJARIGE VERDRUKKING</p>
<p>Ons lees reeds in die Deuteronomium 4:29-30 dat ’n Groot Verdrukking oor Israel sal kom om hulle terug te bring na God (Jesaja 26:9). Die Sewejarige Verdrukking, wat ook bekend staan as Jakob se benoudheid (Jeremia 30:7), is die laaste week van Daniel se profesie van sewentig sewetalle (490 jaar – Daniel 9:24-27) wat God oor Israel uitgespreek het. 483 jare daarvan is reeds letterlik vervul wat beteken dat die laaste sewe jaar ook letterlik vervul sal word. Waarom die lang tydperk tussen die vervulling van die 483 jare en die laaste sewe jare? Lees gerus weer 2 Petrus 3:9 vir die antwoord. </p>
<p>TWEEDE KOMS</p>
<p>Daar is verskeie verskille tussen  die Wegraping en die Tweede Koms van Christus waarvan die belangrikste sekerlik die feit is dat met die Wegraping Jesus terugkom vir sy bruid wanneer die ontmoeting in die lug sal plaasvind (1 Tessalonisense 4:17), terwyl Jesus met sy Tweede Koms na die aarde wanneer sy voete die Olyfberg in twee gaan splyt (Sagaria 14:4) die nasies sal oordeel omdat hulle die oorblyfsel van sy volk so sleg behandel het. </p>
<p>BEMA TROON OORDEEL</p>
<p>Die Bema Troon oordeel vind plaas net na die Wegraping wanneer die elke lid van Christus se Bruid se werke deur vuur getoets sal word om te bepaal hoedanig die loon van elkeen sal wees. (1 Korintiërs 3:7-15. </p>
<p>WIT TROON OORDEEL</p>
<p>Gelowiges en ongelowiges word nie gesamentlik geoordeel nie. Die Wit troon oordeel is net vir die ongelowiges wat eers na die duisendjarige vrederyk van Christus op aarde gaan plaasvind (Openbaring 20:11-15).</p>
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		By: Artus Malherbe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 04:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hullo Tom.
Kan jy asb &#039;n skakel plaas na die doktrines wat jy aanhang? (Jy lewer kritiek oor wat onwaar is, wat ek mee saamstem, maar gee nie duidelikheid wat volgens jou dan as duidelike waarheid gesien moet word nie. Duidelikheid oor die doktrines wat jy aanhang sal in hierdie verband baie waardevol wees).

Baie dankie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hullo Tom.<br />
Kan jy asb &#8216;n skakel plaas na die doktrines wat jy aanhang? (Jy lewer kritiek oor wat onwaar is, wat ek mee saamstem, maar gee nie duidelikheid wat volgens jou dan as duidelike waarheid gesien moet word nie. Duidelikheid oor die doktrines wat jy aanhang sal in hierdie verband baie waardevol wees).</p>
<p>Baie dankie.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496074&quot;&gt;Ida Geyser&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ida, Thanks for the question. First of all, we need to ask what God says about the Jews because his Word has the final say on the matter and no one else’s, no matter how learned they think they are. Here’s what God says about the Jews. And while you are reading this comment, remember these words, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (Numbers 23:19).

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: &lt;strong&gt;If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.&lt;/strong&gt; Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. (Jeremiah 31:35-37)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Notice God’s emphatic statement, &lt;strong&gt;“If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.”&lt;/strong&gt; To say it more simply, “If you and I and everyone else woke up from our sleep one morning when our alarms go off and there’s no sun nor light in the skies, we must know that God has forever discarded the Jews as a nation (12 tribes) and as his peculiar people. I believe that this is also the reason why God chose to use the sun, the moon and eleven stars as a metaphor for Jacob (Israel), his wife Rebecca and his twelve sons in Joseph’s dream (Genesis 37:9) to demonstrate how He will make good his covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Genesis 12:1-3; Genesis 15: 1-21). In fact, Joseph’s entire history prefigures Jesus Christ’s rejection by his own brethren, the Jews, and the final reconciliation and salvation of the remnant (from each tribe) with their and our Messiah at his Second Coming to the earth (not the Pre-tribulation Rapture). You can read about this in Zechariah 12:10-14. Ezekiel 48 tells us how the land which God promised to give to Abraham and his seed (the Jews) will be divided among the twelve tribes during the Millennium of peace when Christ will rule from the throne of his father David in Jerusalem (Luke 1:32).

If there is one things Satan would like to do, it is to destroy Israel completely, either through physical destruction or in the minds of so-called Christians who declare that God has forsaken and cast them off eternally, to the extent that the twelve tribes no longer exist. This is not merely antisemitic but satanic to its core. The mere rejection of Israel as a nation (12 tribes) is akin to a curse (Genesis 12:1-3). Why does God curse those who curse Israel? If anyone shuns and rejects the source of blessing, they are prone to God’s curse. The Jews as a nation is God’s source of blessing through Jesus Christ. How do we know?  Well, Jesus Himself said, “salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22). To be fully human, Jesus needed an ancestry and the Jews are that divinely chosen ancestry. The antisemitic Christians usually assert that the New Covenant has replaced or supplanted the covenant God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That is untenable to say, the very least because the New Covenant does not entail a land here on earth which was allotted to the Bride of Christ.
 
There is much more to say about the eternality of the 12 tribes (Jews as a nation) here on earth (the Millennium and subsequently the New Earth). Suffice is to say, beware of what you say and think about the Jews.
 


&lt;blockquote&gt;Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: (Romans 11:18-20).&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496074" >Ida Geyser</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ida, Thanks for the question. First of all, we need to ask what God says about the Jews because his Word has the final say on the matter and no one else’s, no matter how learned they think they are. Here’s what God says about the Jews. And while you are reading this comment, remember these words, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (Numbers 23:19).</p>
<blockquote><p>Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: <strong>If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.</strong> Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. (Jeremiah 31:35-37)</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice God’s emphatic statement, <strong>“If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.”</strong> To say it more simply, “If you and I and everyone else woke up from our sleep one morning when our alarms go off and there’s no sun nor light in the skies, we must know that God has forever discarded the Jews as a nation (12 tribes) and as his peculiar people. I believe that this is also the reason why God chose to use the sun, the moon and eleven stars as a metaphor for Jacob (Israel), his wife Rebecca and his twelve sons in Joseph’s dream (Genesis 37:9) to demonstrate how He will make good his covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Genesis 12:1-3; Genesis 15: 1-21). In fact, Joseph’s entire history prefigures Jesus Christ’s rejection by his own brethren, the Jews, and the final reconciliation and salvation of the remnant (from each tribe) with their and our Messiah at his Second Coming to the earth (not the Pre-tribulation Rapture). You can read about this in Zechariah 12:10-14. Ezekiel 48 tells us how the land which God promised to give to Abraham and his seed (the Jews) will be divided among the twelve tribes during the Millennium of peace when Christ will rule from the throne of his father David in Jerusalem (Luke 1:32).</p>
<p>If there is one things Satan would like to do, it is to destroy Israel completely, either through physical destruction or in the minds of so-called Christians who declare that God has forsaken and cast them off eternally, to the extent that the twelve tribes no longer exist. This is not merely antisemitic but satanic to its core. The mere rejection of Israel as a nation (12 tribes) is akin to a curse (Genesis 12:1-3). Why does God curse those who curse Israel? If anyone shuns and rejects the source of blessing, they are prone to God’s curse. The Jews as a nation is God’s source of blessing through Jesus Christ. How do we know?  Well, Jesus Himself said, “salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22). To be fully human, Jesus needed an ancestry and the Jews are that divinely chosen ancestry. The antisemitic Christians usually assert that the New Covenant has replaced or supplanted the covenant God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That is untenable to say, the very least because the New Covenant does not entail a land here on earth which was allotted to the Bride of Christ.</p>
<p>There is much more to say about the eternality of the 12 tribes (Jews as a nation) here on earth (the Millennium and subsequently the New Earth). Suffice is to say, beware of what you say and think about the Jews.</p>
<blockquote><p>Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: (Romans 11:18-20).</p></blockquote>
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		By: Ida Geyser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah,

Thank you for the answer, it made me go search and I found all kinds of interesting info on the subject of Israelites : 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes#Judaism   where it seems everyone has an opinion and facts to add to the story.  Its a full time study on it&#039;s own.  

Regarding the article above, Tom said:
&quot;&lt;span&gt;Skynbaar besef ons hedendaagse profete soos Stephan Joubert en Riekert Botha nie hoe ernstig die vermaning is nie.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;

I have never hear that Riekert Botha refer to himself as a prophet, but his newest teaching on the rapture just came out yesterday, &lt;u&gt;according to (the prophet) Riekert&lt;/u&gt;, don&#039;t hold your breath for the rapture to happen, because it&#039;s not happening until the second coming of Messiah.  There&#039;s no such thing as a rapture. Sadly said Botha.

I wonder what the Jews are going to say about the Rapture, as the The Jewish Rabbis seem to know more about the original Scriptures.  Lots of ordinary people admire the Jews, like myself and Corrie ten Boom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah,</p>
<p>Thank you for the answer, it made me go search and I found all kinds of interesting info on the subject of Israelites : </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes#Judaism"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes#Judaism</a>   where it seems everyone has an opinion and facts to add to the story.  Its a full time study on it&#8217;s own.  </p>
<p>Regarding the article above, Tom said:<br />
&#8220;<span>Skynbaar besef ons hedendaagse profete soos Stephan Joubert en Riekert Botha nie hoe ernstig die vermaning is nie.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>I have never hear that Riekert Botha refer to himself as a prophet, but his newest teaching on the rapture just came out yesterday, <u>according to (the prophet) Riekert</u>, don&#8217;t hold your breath for the rapture to happen, because it&#8217;s not happening until the second coming of Messiah.  There&#8217;s no such thing as a rapture. Sadly said Botha.</p>
<p>I wonder what the Jews are going to say about the Rapture, as the The Jewish Rabbis seem to know more about the original Scriptures.  Lots of ordinary people admire the Jews, like myself and Corrie ten Boom.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496074&quot;&gt;Ida Geyser&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ida

They are Jews; born Jews from a Jewish family, raised as Jews, go to Synagogue etc, and are returning to Israel as we speak.  Afrikaners are not Israelites/Jews.  Jews are Jews, they know who they are.  Impostors want to be Jews and will call themselves Israelites.  This idea of thinking one is an Israelite is part of what is called British Israelisism. Even the AWB believe they are Israelites - they are facisists and believe Jews are not Jews and must be exterminated.  Its nothing but anti-semitism, that Jews are not really Israelites and that the &#039;church&#039; on the other hand is.  

The &#039;Roman&#039; Catholic church have been trying to exterminate Jews since time memorial, they believe they are the inheritors of Israel, that those who belong to the &#039;Mother church&#039; are Israelites.
  
The Mother church is Mystery Babylon and all false religions fall under Mystery Babylon:  Calvinism, Lutheranism, Pentecostalism, Seven Day Adventists (who believe they are Jews), Mormonism, etc, etc, etc.  Even TB Joshua thinks he is a Jew as the name of his church states it&#039;s a &#039;Synagogue&#039;, Church Of All Nations - SCOAN

Those who follow &#039;Black liberation Theology&#039; too believe they are Israelites, hence Jews actually need to be exterminated and whites need bow down to them as their masters. The BLM movement is part of Black Liberation Theology religion that Oprah Winfey and Barack Obama follow. 

British Israelism / Black Liberation Theology runs deep and splits into a multitude of different categories/movements - but the end result is that Jews are not Jews and they need to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Here is an interesting article on British Israelism:  https://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engarticles/Britishisraelism.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496074" >Ida Geyser</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ida</p>
<p>They are Jews; born Jews from a Jewish family, raised as Jews, go to Synagogue etc, and are returning to Israel as we speak.  Afrikaners are not Israelites/Jews.  Jews are Jews, they know who they are.  Impostors want to be Jews and will call themselves Israelites.  This idea of thinking one is an Israelite is part of what is called British Israelisism. Even the AWB believe they are Israelites &#8211; they are facisists and believe Jews are not Jews and must be exterminated.  Its nothing but anti-semitism, that Jews are not really Israelites and that the &#8216;church&#8217; on the other hand is.  </p>
<p>The &#8216;Roman&#8217; Catholic church have been trying to exterminate Jews since time memorial, they believe they are the inheritors of Israel, that those who belong to the &#8216;Mother church&#8217; are Israelites.</p>
<p>The Mother church is Mystery Babylon and all false religions fall under Mystery Babylon:  Calvinism, Lutheranism, Pentecostalism, Seven Day Adventists (who believe they are Jews), Mormonism, etc, etc, etc.  Even TB Joshua thinks he is a Jew as the name of his church states it&#8217;s a &#8216;Synagogue&#8217;, Church Of All Nations &#8211; SCOAN</p>
<p>Those who follow &#8216;Black liberation Theology&#8217; too believe they are Israelites, hence Jews actually need to be exterminated and whites need bow down to them as their masters. The BLM movement is part of Black Liberation Theology religion that Oprah Winfey and Barack Obama follow. </p>
<p>British Israelism / Black Liberation Theology runs deep and splits into a multitude of different categories/movements &#8211; but the end result is that Jews are not Jews and they need to be wiped off the face of the planet.</p>
<p>Here is an interesting article on British Israelism:  <a target="_blank" href="https://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engarticles/Britishisraelism.htm"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engarticles/Britishisraelism.htm</a></p>
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		By: Ida Geyser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Tom, it seems James don&#039;t have the answer.  Could you give more information about the Isrealites. How do we or they themselves know who they are today? 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom, it seems James don&#8217;t have the answer.  Could you give more information about the Isrealites. How do we or they themselves know who they are today? </p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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You can translate this page using Google Translate that I have provided for you below where it says &quot;Translate Website&quot; There is a drop down box to select the language of your choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear James </p>
<p>You can translate this page using Google Translate that I have provided for you below where it says &#8220;Translate Website&#8221; There is a drop down box to select the language of your choice.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2020/06/29/stephan-joubert-se-deurlees-van-die-boek-openbaring-in-koronatyd-herbesoek-deel-1/#comment-496046&quot;&gt;James Cross&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi James Cross. Who are your fellow Israelites?]]></description>
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<p>Hi James Cross. Who are your fellow Israelites?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could I possibly have your posts translated into English  please  as I live in Ulster. I have relations that lived in South Africa, many of them moved back to Britain  others have died out there which draws me to that part of the earth for pray for my fellow white Israelites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could I possibly have your posts translated into English  please  as I live in Ulster. I have relations that lived in South Africa, many of them moved back to Britain  others have died out there which draws me to that part of the earth for pray for my fellow white Israelites.</p>
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