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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494151</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494150&quot;&gt;Mike Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mike, Good to hear you are well.

The cultic WOF and NAR churches, as the Roman Catholic church, are paving the way for Antichrist. Have you seen this?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-quote-calling-him-the-second-coming-of-god-to-jews-in-israel/

I am not suggesting that Trump is the Antichrist but he surely is a prefigure of one. Ask any Jew what they expect their coming Messiah should do first. All say the same - &quot;He must bring peace to the Middle East and the world. That&#039;s why the Rapture can take place no other time than the Pre-trib Rapture. The Antichrist is intrinsically linked to Israel (not the church; John 5:43) because they are the ones expecting a Messiah of peace. (Daniel 8:25; 9:24-27). Ironically the Pre-wrath and post-trib bunch are waiting for a tribulation of the saints (body of Christ). The Jews are not waiting for a tribulation but a man of peace, the Antichrist, who will give them a false peace at the beginning of the seven-year tribulation and not at a so-called pre-wrath or post-trib rapture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494150" >Mike Evans</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mike, Good to hear you are well.</p>
<p>The cultic WOF and NAR churches, as the Roman Catholic church, are paving the way for Antichrist. Have you seen this?</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-quote-calling-him-the-second-coming-of-god-to-jews-in-israel/"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-quote-calling-him-the-second-coming-of-god-to-jews-in-israel/</a></p>
<p>I am not suggesting that Trump is the Antichrist but he surely is a prefigure of one. Ask any Jew what they expect their coming Messiah should do first. All say the same &#8211; &#8220;He must bring peace to the Middle East and the world. That&#8217;s why the Rapture can take place no other time than the Pre-trib Rapture. The Antichrist is intrinsically linked to Israel (not the church; John 5:43) because they are the ones expecting a Messiah of peace. (Daniel 8:25; 9:24-27). Ironically the Pre-wrath and post-trib bunch are waiting for a tribulation of the saints (body of Christ). The Jews are not waiting for a tribulation but a man of peace, the Antichrist, who will give them a false peace at the beginning of the seven-year tribulation and not at a so-called pre-wrath or post-trib rapture.</p>
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		By: Mike Evans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah. Incisive article. I have been out of the false cult of Pentecostalism for five years now and give thanks to God daily. Things are going from horrific to worse in this  heretical movement birthed by Parham, Seymour.,Lake, McPherson et al back in the early 20th century. Few in it today know of its terrible history and that it was dismissed as a cult for decades until the charismatic invasion of the (doctrinally defenceless) churches in the post - war years. 
  Who could have forseen its global expansion and dominance and its union with Rome? We have a PM here in Australia who cites Brian Houston as his mentor and who promotes the NAR. Trump has surrounded himself with Pentecostal hererics who appeal to his narcissism and love of money. He publicly congratulated Copeland on 50 yeara of &quot;ministry&quot; and has submitted to the laying on of hands by Rodney Howard Browne. No wonder it is so hard to get people to wake up and flee this strong delusion. I have given friends abundant material exposing this bewitching pack of lies to little avail. I believe that the vast majority involved are false converts and strangers to the true gospel. Those entangled in heresy and false spirits have no hope of overcoming sin to any degree. The person who wrote you these questions needs to get free of the apostate church, be sure they are in the faith and then seek help fromv he Lord to gain victory over their sins, understanding that it is a lifelong battle. They will only see progress when out of the influence of false teaching. I am out of church for life and thank God for the internet for traching etc. I think many are coerced into going back to apostate churches by being told they are in sin by not gathering with other believers. Gathering with heretics however is not prefetable to staying home with one&#039;s Bible. So many flee Pentecostalism for the deceptive embrace of Calvinism (eg. the young lady who left Bethel&#039;s BSSM school and became a celebrity in the discernment circuit, much of which bows to Calvin and Luther). 
  I hope you and Tom are both going well. Mike
P. S. I think at one pont in the above article you meant to write SUCCESSION but mistakenly typed CESSETION.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah. Incisive article. I have been out of the false cult of Pentecostalism for five years now and give thanks to God daily. Things are going from horrific to worse in this  heretical movement birthed by Parham, Seymour.,Lake, McPherson et al back in the early 20th century. Few in it today know of its terrible history and that it was dismissed as a cult for decades until the charismatic invasion of the (doctrinally defenceless) churches in the post &#8211; war years.<br />
  Who could have forseen its global expansion and dominance and its union with Rome? We have a PM here in Australia who cites Brian Houston as his mentor and who promotes the NAR. Trump has surrounded himself with Pentecostal hererics who appeal to his narcissism and love of money. He publicly congratulated Copeland on 50 yeara of &#8220;ministry&#8221; and has submitted to the laying on of hands by Rodney Howard Browne. No wonder it is so hard to get people to wake up and flee this strong delusion. I have given friends abundant material exposing this bewitching pack of lies to little avail. I believe that the vast majority involved are false converts and strangers to the true gospel. Those entangled in heresy and false spirits have no hope of overcoming sin to any degree. The person who wrote you these questions needs to get free of the apostate church, be sure they are in the faith and then seek help fromv he Lord to gain victory over their sins, understanding that it is a lifelong battle. They will only see progress when out of the influence of false teaching. I am out of church for life and thank God for the internet for traching etc. I think many are coerced into going back to apostate churches by being told they are in sin by not gathering with other believers. Gathering with heretics however is not prefetable to staying home with one&#8217;s Bible. So many flee Pentecostalism for the deceptive embrace of Calvinism (eg. the young lady who left Bethel&#8217;s BSSM school and became a celebrity in the discernment circuit, much of which bows to Calvin and Luther).<br />
  I hope you and Tom are both going well. Mike<br />
P. S. I think at one pont in the above article you meant to write SUCCESSION but mistakenly typed CESSETION.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494085</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494084&quot;&gt;Ciel&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Ciel for comment. So true. :thumbsup:

Gotta say, it&#039;s become so bad now that you don&#039;t even need to attend a prophetic school, or miracle school, or how to be an apostle school, you can just proclaim yourself to be one with the click o of your fingers. Just like that...&quot;anointed&quot; and ready to fleece the congregation of their hard earned cash. :ohno:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494084" >Ciel</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Ciel for comment. So true. :thumbsup:</p>
<p>Gotta say, it&#8217;s become so bad now that you don&#8217;t even need to attend a prophetic school, or miracle school, or how to be an apostle school, you can just proclaim yourself to be one with the click o of your fingers. Just like that&#8230;&#8221;anointed&#8221; and ready to fleece the congregation of their hard earned cash. :ohno:</p>
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		By: Ciel		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/#comment-494084</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah, super to read the truth for once.  These days when you are &quot;a member&quot; of a church, most of the time yiu are only acknowledge when you are friends with the leaders or their groups, or you advance to be a prophet , i.e. attend the &#038; all prophetic schools, and or become an apostle and thereafter a church pshychologist...  sad]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah, super to read the truth for once.  These days when you are &#8220;a member&#8221; of a church, most of the time yiu are only acknowledge when you are friends with the leaders or their groups, or you advance to be a prophet , i.e. attend the &amp; all prophetic schools, and or become an apostle and thereafter a church pshychologist&#8230;  sad</p>
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