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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2019 17:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-491355&quot;&gt;Fledgling Discerner&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Fledgling

I really don&#039;t see how God can reward the murder of an unborn child.]]></description>
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<p>Hi Fledgling</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see how God can reward the murder of an unborn child.</p>
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		By: Fledgling Discerner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fledgling Discerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Tom

I have been trying to understand how God views reward.  
Psalm 127 verse 3  says &quot;Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.&quot;

What did people do to &quot;earn&quot; this reward - Is it only to do with the command in Genesis to go forth and multiply? 
(Genesis 9 v7: And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

This reward has been given to married husbands and wives, as well as teenage pregnancies/single parents, women who are raped, people who use IVF, etc.
It seems to me that God doesn&#039;t withhold this blessing and reward from anybody, even if they are persons that ultimately choose to abort the reward.
His decision process of who to reward, at times, just looks 180 degrees opposite from what society would expect.

Please can you share any insight you may have?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom</p>
<p>I have been trying to understand how God views reward.<br />
Psalm 127 verse 3  says &#8220;Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.&#8221;</p>
<p>What did people do to &#8220;earn&#8221; this reward &#8211; Is it only to do with the command in Genesis to go forth and multiply?<br />
(Genesis 9 v7: And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.</p>
<p>This reward has been given to married husbands and wives, as well as teenage pregnancies/single parents, women who are raped, people who use IVF, etc.<br />
It seems to me that God doesn&#8217;t withhold this blessing and reward from anybody, even if they are persons that ultimately choose to abort the reward.<br />
His decision process of who to reward, at times, just looks 180 degrees opposite from what society would expect.</p>
<p>Please can you share any insight you may have?</p>
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		By: Conrad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wel it is 2019 now and in New York they lit up the one world trade center and celebrated the new rights for women to murder children up to 2 years old like I&#039;ve heard from a pastor Jerry he called it the Herod sign this is an ongoing sacrifice to their god baal well again just the things people are talking about and no surprise in South Africa the land of witchcraft sangoma helping you to find your alleged lost lover and what not well I totally disagree with that even some atheists disagree with the murder of innocent children I would love to add from scripture but you&#039;ve covered the scriptures of the Bible there are more scripture outside that also disagree with abortion but I&#039;ll keep it to myself unless you want to know anyway maybe I&#039;ll hear from you maybe not may we honor and glorify God and remember Yahshua&#039;s Cross blessings]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wel it is 2019 now and in New York they lit up the one world trade center and celebrated the new rights for women to murder children up to 2 years old like I&#8217;ve heard from a pastor Jerry he called it the Herod sign this is an ongoing sacrifice to their god baal well again just the things people are talking about and no surprise in South Africa the land of witchcraft sangoma helping you to find your alleged lost lover and what not well I totally disagree with that even some atheists disagree with the murder of innocent children I would love to add from scripture but you&#8217;ve covered the scriptures of the Bible there are more scripture outside that also disagree with abortion but I&#8217;ll keep it to myself unless you want to know anyway maybe I&#8217;ll hear from you maybe not may we honor and glorify God and remember Yahshua&#8217;s Cross blessings</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477322&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Touché! Spot on! My heart goes out to young women and girls who have been woo&#039;d (try to gain the love of a woman, especially with a view to marriage) by scoundrels who think they are macho men but are actually scoundrels, wimps and cowards who have no sense of responsibility or accountability. To take Jesus&#039; words, &quot;“Father forgive them for they know not what they do” as an excuse, as you say, is utter rubbish. I can&#039;t understand why Christians cannot discern the truth anymore. They seem to go along with their pastors and teachers who say these un-biblical things without testing it against the Word of God.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477322" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Touché! Spot on! My heart goes out to young women and girls who have been woo&#8217;d (try to gain the love of a woman, especially with a view to marriage) by scoundrels who think they are macho men but are actually scoundrels, wimps and cowards who have no sense of responsibility or accountability. To take Jesus&#8217; words, &#8220;“Father forgive them for they know not what they do” as an excuse, as you say, is utter rubbish. I can&#8217;t understand why Christians cannot discern the truth anymore. They seem to go along with their pastors and teachers who say these un-biblical things without testing it against the Word of God.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477308&quot;&gt;Tom (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Tom for this article.

I want to add that the &quot;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&quot; excuse is used time and time again when people do the most heinous things.  We can&#039;t forgive people, only Jesus Christ can forgive people for their sins. And as Tom explained, Jesus Christ said &quot;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&quot; for crucifying him...only.

We pray for people yes, that they come to Jesus Christ and be born again and stop sinning, but to forgive people because they &lt;em&gt;apparently&lt;/em&gt; don&#039;t know what they are doing is utter rubbish, of course they know what they are doing.

If people don&#039;t know what they are doing when they sin, how can they come freely by CHOICE to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness of their sins.  It means everyone will one day be able to stand before God on judgement day and say &quot;Well God, Jesus Christ said &quot;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&quot; the Holy Spirit never opened my eyes to my sinfulness...so therefore God You actually can&#039;t punish me.&quot;  I echo what Tom said &quot;I don&#039;t think so&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477308" >Tom (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Tom for this article.</p>
<p>I want to add that the &#8220;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&#8221; excuse is used time and time again when people do the most heinous things.  We can&#8217;t forgive people, only Jesus Christ can forgive people for their sins. And as Tom explained, Jesus Christ said &#8220;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&#8221; for crucifying him&#8230;only.</p>
<p>We pray for people yes, that they come to Jesus Christ and be born again and stop sinning, but to forgive people because they <em>apparently</em> don&#8217;t know what they are doing is utter rubbish, of course they know what they are doing.</p>
<p>If people don&#8217;t know what they are doing when they sin, how can they come freely by CHOICE to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness of their sins.  It means everyone will one day be able to stand before God on judgement day and say &#8220;Well God, Jesus Christ said &#8220;Father forgive them for they know not what they do&#8221; the Holy Spirit never opened my eyes to my sinfulness&#8230;so therefore God You actually can&#8217;t punish me.&#8221;  I echo what Tom said &#8220;I don&#8217;t think so&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 04:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477292&quot;&gt;Terry&lt;/a&gt;.

Terry

What was it they did not know? They never knew that sinning in general was wrong? Really? I don&#039;t think so. They even accused Jesus of sinning, so, how could they not have known that sinning in general was wrong? However, they did not know it was wrong to crucify Him. That&#039;s why Jesus prayed for them for that particular sin.  Do you really think people of today don&#039;t know they are doing wrong when they sin in general? What happened to the Holy Spirit&#039;s conviction of sin? Don&#039;t be misled. They know full well that abortion is a grave sin but refuse to acknowledge and confess it to the Lord.

If animals can know something is wrong when their babies are in distress and will do everything in their power to save them, why can&#039;t humans do the same? I&#039;ll tell you why. There&#039;s a saying that goes like this, &quot;Only man is vile.&quot; And that is so true because the Bible confirms it here:

&lt;strong&gt;The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (Jeremiah 17:9)&lt;/strong&gt;

This does not mean they cannot know that sinning is wrong. It simply means they think their hearts are righteous before God, even in the midst of their sinning and knowing that it is wrong. That&#039;s why they they have this warped idea that it is not wrong to decide for themselves what to do with their bodies, and hence murder their unborn babies. I have heard of women having nightmares in which their aborted babies appeared to them, with their tiny bodies bloodied and torn asunder, screaming at them, &quot;look what you have done to me. Look what you have done to me.&quot; 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/05/31/quiz-time-topic-abortion/#comment-477292" >Terry</a>.</p>
<p>Terry</p>
<p>What was it they did not know? They never knew that sinning in general was wrong? Really? I don&#8217;t think so. They even accused Jesus of sinning, so, how could they not have known that sinning in general was wrong? However, they did not know it was wrong to crucify Him. That&#8217;s why Jesus prayed for them for that particular sin.  Do you really think people of today don&#8217;t know they are doing wrong when they sin in general? What happened to the Holy Spirit&#8217;s conviction of sin? Don&#8217;t be misled. They know full well that abortion is a grave sin but refuse to acknowledge and confess it to the Lord.</p>
<p>If animals can know something is wrong when their babies are in distress and will do everything in their power to save them, why can&#8217;t humans do the same? I&#8217;ll tell you why. There&#8217;s a saying that goes like this, &#8220;Only man is vile.&#8221; And that is so true because the Bible confirms it here:</p>
<p><strong>The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (Jeremiah 17:9)</strong></p>
<p>This does not mean they cannot know that sinning is wrong. It simply means they think their hearts are righteous before God, even in the midst of their sinning and knowing that it is wrong. That&#8217;s why they they have this warped idea that it is not wrong to decide for themselves what to do with their bodies, and hence murder their unborn babies. I have heard of women having nightmares in which their aborted babies appeared to them, with their tiny bodies bloodied and torn asunder, screaming at them, &#8220;look what you have done to me. Look what you have done to me.&#8221; </p>
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		By: cecilia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes. But to me the underlying sin or root, is &#039;god complex&#039;.  People think they are God who gives life and can take it away again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. But to me the underlying sin or root, is &#8216;god complex&#8217;.  People think they are God who gives life and can take it away again.</p>
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		By: Terry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We need to do as Jesus did on the Cross.   “ Father forgive them for they know not what they do “

And so it is with the programming of the world system deeply entrenched within our minds and souls we can only blindly follow the diktats of the god of this world as he attempts to steal Gods greatest creation and drag them into eternal torment with him. 
We who have been brought out of the pit into His glorious light and have Christ in us, the Hope of glory need to fall on our faces before the Father and repent of our lack of prayer and intercession on their behalf!!!
Pray that the people who perform these procedures will be brought to repentance and that those who live in the mire of this world blinded and deaf to the Gospel of our Lord &#038; Saviour have the Holy Spirit open their eyes and unplug their ears to be able to see the shackles that weigh them down and hear the rattling of the chains that bind them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to do as Jesus did on the Cross.   “ Father forgive them for they know not what they do “</p>
<p>And so it is with the programming of the world system deeply entrenched within our minds and souls we can only blindly follow the diktats of the god of this world as he attempts to steal Gods greatest creation and drag them into eternal torment with him.<br />
We who have been brought out of the pit into His glorious light and have Christ in us, the Hope of glory need to fall on our faces before the Father and repent of our lack of prayer and intercession on their behalf!!!<br />
Pray that the people who perform these procedures will be brought to repentance and that those who live in the mire of this world blinded and deaf to the Gospel of our Lord &amp; Saviour have the Holy Spirit open their eyes and unplug their ears to be able to see the shackles that weigh them down and hear the rattling of the chains that bind them.</p>
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