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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 14:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494414&quot;&gt;Ilzé&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ilze,

I am very pleased to hear that God has delivered you from a den of vipers. We have been warning people against the Mosaiek Church for many years. You can find our articles here:

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/churches/mosaiek-church/

By the way, where are you going to church these days? Hope you found one that preaches the unadulterated Word of God

God bless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494414" >Ilzé</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ilze,</p>
<p>I am very pleased to hear that God has delivered you from a den of vipers. We have been warning people against the Mosaiek Church for many years. You can find our articles here:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/churches/mosaiek-church/"  rel="ugc">https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/churches/mosaiek-church/</a></p>
<p>By the way, where are you going to church these days? Hope you found one that preaches the unadulterated Word of God</p>
<p>God bless.</p>
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		By: Ilzé		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ilzé]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 09:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We attended Mosaiek Church for a few years and the influences that you are highlighting have slowly, but surely, infiltrated it. 

I praise God, that He, in His great mercy, opened our eyes and we have since left Mosaiek (about 1 1/2 years now). I am convinced that they teach a different jesus, there. (See Johanna Michaelson’s “The Beautiful Side of Evil”.

If anyone attending wants to be discerning, let them read up on the ‘gurus’ the leadership there follow: Henri Nouwen, Thomas Keating, Dallas Willard, and the Desert Fathers, to name just a few. Also, do some research on the Emerging Church, dangers of Contemplative Prayer and  Lectio Divino.

I pray that God will open others’ eyes also, so that they can come out of this deceptive church.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We attended Mosaiek Church for a few years and the influences that you are highlighting have slowly, but surely, infiltrated it. </p>
<p>I praise God, that He, in His great mercy, opened our eyes and we have since left Mosaiek (about 1 1/2 years now). I am convinced that they teach a different jesus, there. (See Johanna Michaelson’s “The Beautiful Side of Evil”.</p>
<p>If anyone attending wants to be discerning, let them read up on the ‘gurus’ the leadership there follow: Henri Nouwen, Thomas Keating, Dallas Willard, and the Desert Fathers, to name just a few. Also, do some research on the Emerging Church, dangers of Contemplative Prayer and  Lectio Divino.</p>
<p>I pray that God will open others’ eyes also, so that they can come out of this deceptive church.</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494065&quot;&gt;Susanna Vos&lt;/a&gt;.

Susanna Vos wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There may [be] doctrinal differences, but I am sure there are doctrinal faults in every church and noody can claim it has the absolute truth.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This statement alone makes me wonder whether you truly know the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and not another Jesus (2 Corinthians 11:4). The real Jesus clearly says, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6). He did not say I am absolutely not the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. There are other truths besides Me. You may happily and joyously journey on their paths (not only Mine) because all paths eventually lead to God the Father.” The false prophet, Stephan Joubert, may have been the one who poisoned your mind with this lie because he once said that truth is also in other religions like Buddhism, and even in atheism. 

Instead of finding your false pastors and preachers’ ongoing lies and deceptions offensive, you find the comments and articles on this site offensive? Your statement that no one can claim to have the absolute truth, is an offense to God and his Son Jesus Christ who said, “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31-32). Your pastors (Johan Geyser, Theo Geyser, Trevor Hudson) all claim to be followers (disciples) of Jesus and yet do not continue in his word (his truth) because they have the audacity to teach you that no one can claim to have the absolute truth. No wonder Jesus once said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and &lt;strong&gt;the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.&lt;/strong&gt; (John 10:1-5).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I urge you to flee from the strangers in the Mosaïek Church as fast as you can before it is too late. Their rich history cannot get you to heaven. By the way, Laurence Freeman, a Catholic priest and a Benedictine monk of the Monastery of Sta Maria di Pilastrello, in Italy, a monastery of the Olivetan Congregation, and the Director of the World Community for Christian Meditation is coming to your church on the 14th September. Are you also going to sit at his feet and listen to his &quot;absolute truth&quot;? May God, the absolute Truth, help you, my dear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-494065" >Susanna Vos</a>.</p>
<p>Susanna Vos wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There may [be] doctrinal differences, but I am sure there are doctrinal faults in every church and noody can claim it has the absolute truth.” </p></blockquote>
<p>This statement alone makes me wonder whether you truly know the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and not another Jesus (2 Corinthians 11:4). The real Jesus clearly says, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6). He did not say I am absolutely not the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. There are other truths besides Me. You may happily and joyously journey on their paths (not only Mine) because all paths eventually lead to God the Father.” The false prophet, Stephan Joubert, may have been the one who poisoned your mind with this lie because he once said that truth is also in other religions like Buddhism, and even in atheism. </p>
<p>Instead of finding your false pastors and preachers’ ongoing lies and deceptions offensive, you find the comments and articles on this site offensive? Your statement that no one can claim to have the absolute truth, is an offense to God and his Son Jesus Christ who said, “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31-32). Your pastors (Johan Geyser, Theo Geyser, Trevor Hudson) all claim to be followers (disciples) of Jesus and yet do not continue in his word (his truth) because they have the audacity to teach you that no one can claim to have the absolute truth. No wonder Jesus once said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and <strong>the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.</strong> (John 10:1-5).</p></blockquote>
<p>I urge you to flee from the strangers in the Mosaïek Church as fast as you can before it is too late. Their rich history cannot get you to heaven. By the way, Laurence Freeman, a Catholic priest and a Benedictine monk of the Monastery of Sta Maria di Pilastrello, in Italy, a monastery of the Olivetan Congregation, and the Director of the World Community for Christian Meditation is coming to your church on the 14th September. Are you also going to sit at his feet and listen to his &#8220;absolute truth&#8221;? May God, the absolute Truth, help you, my dear.</p>
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		By: Susanna Vos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a member of Mosaiek church, and find these comments offensive. The church is not Satanic. It serves the Lord. THere may doctrinal differences, but I am sure there are doctrinal faults in every church and noody can claim it has the absolute truth. There is only deliberate intent to deceive if the church chose the structure with all the ill will that are proclaimed here. IT is wrong to assume ill intent based on the rich history you described here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a member of Mosaiek church, and find these comments offensive. The church is not Satanic. It serves the Lord. THere may doctrinal differences, but I am sure there are doctrinal faults in every church and noody can claim it has the absolute truth. There is only deliberate intent to deceive if the church chose the structure with all the ill will that are proclaimed here. IT is wrong to assume ill intent based on the rich history you described here.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-492501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 06:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-492497&quot;&gt;Leon Swart&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Leon. Indeed, it is a synagogue of Satan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-492497" >Leon Swart</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Leon. Indeed, it is a synagogue of Satan.</p>
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		By: Leon Swart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Swart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 05:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently visited family in Gauteng and we drove past the Mosaik church. My cousin pointed it out to me upon which I commented that it is the church of Satan. He became very quiet. How can people be so deceived? I am so thankful for God&#039;s grace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently visited family in Gauteng and we drove past the Mosaik church. My cousin pointed it out to me upon which I commented that it is the church of Satan. He became very quiet. How can people be so deceived? I am so thankful for God&#8217;s grace.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 06:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-484001&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

Have you read the entire article? I agree, that structures like buildings cannot send anyone to hell. However, the idolatry like &quot;mysticism&quot; (contemplative prayer, the silence, Lectio Divina and the likes) that are practiced in those buildings can pave your way to hell.

&lt;strong&gt;There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Proverbs 14:12)&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-484001" >Peter</a>.</p>
<p>Have you read the entire article? I agree, that structures like buildings cannot send anyone to hell. However, the idolatry like &#8220;mysticism&#8221; (contemplative prayer, the silence, Lectio Divina and the likes) that are practiced in those buildings can pave your way to hell.</p>
<p><strong>There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Proverbs 14:12)</strong></p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 00:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Try going in to the building next time, before writing.  :laugh: Your basing theological discussion on the shape of a building. I’m yet to find an article on this blog that’s not dripping with ignorance and fanatic bias towards conspiracy.

[Edited by DTW: I see you follow &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-484000&quot;&gt;Sadhu Sundar Singh – Hindu Mystic in Sheep’s Clothing&lt;/a&gt;&quot;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try going in to the building next time, before writing.  :laugh: Your basing theological discussion on the shape of a building. I’m yet to find an article on this blog that’s not dripping with ignorance and fanatic bias towards conspiracy.</p>
<p>[Edited by DTW: I see you follow &#8220;<a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-484000" >Sadhu Sundar Singh – Hindu Mystic in Sheep’s Clothing</a>&#8220;]</p>
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		By: Lydia Nel		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/02/12/mosaiek-kerk-scallop-pagan-spirituality/#comment-464244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lydia Nel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Tom!!  This was most interesting en shed so much light on the Order of the Eastern Star.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Tom!!  This was most interesting en shed so much light on the Order of the Eastern Star.</p>
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