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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2017 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462941&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

The Bridge Church in Alberton where I attended (after being invited) for 1 service not so long ago and was totally shocked.
Bridge Church is a 100% Purpose Driven church with occult teaching disguised as Christianity.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Bridge-Church-Alberton-Tree-of-Life.png&quot; alt=&quot;Bridge Church Alberton - Tree of Life&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<p>The Bridge Church in Alberton where I attended (after being invited) for 1 service not so long ago and was totally shocked.<br />
Bridge Church is a 100% Purpose Driven church with occult teaching disguised as Christianity.</p>
<p><img src="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Bridge-Church-Alberton-Tree-of-Life.png" alt="Bridge Church Alberton - Tree of Life" /></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2017 14:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462936&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Here are some comments on Facebook that I made regarding this Tree of Life.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Facebook-chat-Tree-of-Life-1.png&quot; alt=&quot;Tree of Life Facebook comment 1&quot; /&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Facebook-chat-Tree-of-Life-2.png&quot; alt=&quot;Facebook chat - tree of life - casting crowns&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462936" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Here are some comments on Facebook that I made regarding this Tree of Life.</p>
<p><img src="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Facebook-chat-Tree-of-Life-1.png" alt="Tree of Life Facebook comment 1" /><br />
<img src="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/images/wpi/Facebook-chat-Tree-of-Life-2.png" alt="Facebook chat - tree of life - casting crowns" /></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2017 10:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462851&quot;&gt;peaceforeternity&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for you very insightful comment peaceforeternity. 

I know you have tried long and hard searching for a gospel preaching church to attend and have been badly hurt by the other church-goers and pastors who call themselves &#039;Christians&#039;.  But know this, Jesus Christ will &lt;strong&gt;always &lt;/strong&gt;be there for you and will &lt;strong&gt;never &lt;/strong&gt;leave you or forsake you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462851" >peaceforeternity</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for you very insightful comment peaceforeternity. </p>
<p>I know you have tried long and hard searching for a gospel preaching church to attend and have been badly hurt by the other church-goers and pastors who call themselves &#8216;Christians&#8217;.  But know this, Jesus Christ will <strong>always </strong>be there for you and will <strong>never </strong>leave you or forsake you.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462934</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2017 09:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462863&quot;&gt;Ovi&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Ovi!! :hi5:

It&#039;s Tom&#039;s website too :yahoo: if it wasn&#039;t for his Godly input DTW would be a lot smaller and reach less people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462863" >Ovi</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Ovi!! :hi5:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Tom&#8217;s website too :yahoo: if it wasn&#8217;t for his Godly input DTW would be a lot smaller and reach less people.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 06:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah, &lt;strong&gt;love &lt;/strong&gt;your website and the feast of Scriptural information!  :read: 
 :yahoo:  &lt;strong&gt;Very&lt;/strong&gt; thankful to be guided here... :thankyou:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah, <strong>love </strong>your website and the feast of Scriptural information!  :read:<br />
 :yahoo:  <strong>Very</strong> thankful to be guided here&#8230; :thankyou:</p>
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		By: RJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome testimony!  And I agree, ALL CREDIT goes to the Lord Jesus!!

And goodness, we ALL continue (unwilinglly) in these fallen minds &#038; bodies to sin.... yes, I hear  ya&#039; on the repenting daily.  Amen!!   Cuz we&#039;re already &quot;bathed&quot; ... but do need that daily foot washing...  

Oh Girl, I&#039;ve been so embarrassed &#038; zipped an email to you earlieir today when I realized what I&#039;d done.  Horrors!  I got it backwards with Psalm 138!!  His WORD is elevated even above His name!!  

 I knew this of course, yet should never be allowed a license to operate a computer keyboard &#038; mouse when I&#039;m still so tired!!    :ohno: 

Thank you all for not holding it against me.  Truly hate it when I mess up &#038; make the Word say something it &quot;does not&quot; say [or vice versa]!!  His Word is not to be handled flippantly.

May we all be Bereans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome testimony!  And I agree, ALL CREDIT goes to the Lord Jesus!!</p>
<p>And goodness, we ALL continue (unwilinglly) in these fallen minds &amp; bodies to sin&#8230;. yes, I hear  ya&#8217; on the repenting daily.  Amen!!   Cuz we&#8217;re already &#8220;bathed&#8221; &#8230; but do need that daily foot washing&#8230;  </p>
<p>Oh Girl, I&#8217;ve been so embarrassed &amp; zipped an email to you earlieir today when I realized what I&#8217;d done.  Horrors!  I got it backwards with Psalm 138!!  His WORD is elevated even above His name!!  </p>
<p> I knew this of course, yet should never be allowed a license to operate a computer keyboard &amp; mouse when I&#8217;m still so tired!!    :ohno: </p>
<p>Thank you all for not holding it against me.  Truly hate it when I mess up &amp; make the Word say something it &#8220;does not&#8221; say [or vice versa]!!  His Word is not to be handled flippantly.</p>
<p>May we all be Bereans.</p>
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		By: peaceforeternity		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another interesting article Deb. You know God has used this blog to teach me an awful lot. Like you I&#039;ve wondered from church to church in the past, but I was spiritually, blind, deaf, dumb. So many Christians say you&#039;ll never find the perfect church. No, you will never find a church where saved people are perfect, but we can only hope to find a place that teaches the Bible in it&#039;s entire purity and truth. Sad to say I can&#039;t find any.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting article Deb. You know God has used this blog to teach me an awful lot. Like you I&#8217;ve wondered from church to church in the past, but I was spiritually, blind, deaf, dumb. So many Christians say you&#8217;ll never find the perfect church. No, you will never find a church where saved people are perfect, but we can only hope to find a place that teaches the Bible in it&#8217;s entire purity and truth. Sad to say I can&#8217;t find any.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462840&quot;&gt;RJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear RJ

Thank you for your kindest words, but ALL THANKS goes to Jesus Christ who called me non stop throughout my young life as He does with everyone - I was laden with guilt, a knowledge that I was sinning, constantly unhappy trying to find happiness but found it no where...that I finally turned to Jesus Christ and cried out for 2 solid weeks begging Jesus for forgiveness and for salvation.  And SAVED and FORGIVEN I surely was. :nod:  All praise and thanks goes to Him.  &lt;strong&gt;I am still a sinner and in no way even close to being &#039;good&#039;, I repent daily.&lt;/strong&gt;

After I was born again I had a lot to learn about Christianity which I knew nothing of, I knew a lot about the occult.  I had no idea what it entailed to be a Christian so I hopped from one false &#039;Christian&#039; church to another. I was very sad at first because as I sat in these churches, although I had never read the bible in my life, when I listened to the pastors preach what they said just did not sound biblical, the verses they would quote vs their explanation seemed totally contradictory to me.  I didn&#039;t realize at the time that it was the Holy Spirit in me illuminating my mind to the truth regarding the scriptures being read. I looked around me at the people glued to their seats, shouting &#039;amens&#039; at INCORRECT teachings that smacked of the occult and I couldn&#039;t believe what I was seeing and hearing. 

Then it hit me, a desire unlike any, to start a website, to help people see the truth regarding the occult IN the Church. For people to &lt;strong&gt;see the truth through the power of the Holy Spirit&lt;/strong&gt; and come out of this false church -  for people to know the REAL JESUS CHRIST of the BIBLE, not the fake Christ presented at these false churches.

Love you RJ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-462840" >RJ</a>.</p>
<p>Dear RJ</p>
<p>Thank you for your kindest words, but ALL THANKS goes to Jesus Christ who called me non stop throughout my young life as He does with everyone &#8211; I was laden with guilt, a knowledge that I was sinning, constantly unhappy trying to find happiness but found it no where&#8230;that I finally turned to Jesus Christ and cried out for 2 solid weeks begging Jesus for forgiveness and for salvation.  And SAVED and FORGIVEN I surely was. :nod:  All praise and thanks goes to Him.  <strong>I am still a sinner and in no way even close to being &#8216;good&#8217;, I repent daily.</strong></p>
<p>After I was born again I had a lot to learn about Christianity which I knew nothing of, I knew a lot about the occult.  I had no idea what it entailed to be a Christian so I hopped from one false &#8216;Christian&#8217; church to another. I was very sad at first because as I sat in these churches, although I had never read the bible in my life, when I listened to the pastors preach what they said just did not sound biblical, the verses they would quote vs their explanation seemed totally contradictory to me.  I didn&#8217;t realize at the time that it was the Holy Spirit in me illuminating my mind to the truth regarding the scriptures being read. I looked around me at the people glued to their seats, shouting &#8216;amens&#8217; at INCORRECT teachings that smacked of the occult and I couldn&#8217;t believe what I was seeing and hearing. </p>
<p>Then it hit me, a desire unlike any, to start a website, to help people see the truth regarding the occult IN the Church. For people to <strong>see the truth through the power of the Holy Spirit</strong> and come out of this false church &#8211;  for people to know the REAL JESUS CHRIST of the BIBLE, not the fake Christ presented at these false churches.</p>
<p>Love you RJ.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah... SO THANKFUL for you!  For your ministry, for this article!  For your boldness. And yes, even thankful for your background, only b/c you rejected it, turned your back to it &#038; ran to the Lord alone for salvation!  Yet b/c of it, you truly know what you&#039;re talking about.  All credit to God!  Truly a Romans 8:28 blessing!

And to the first poster -- NO, the two trains of thought should NOT be unified, as we can serve ONLY ONE GOD!!  Also perhaps it was an oversight, but I don&#039;t appreciate your writing about God (Creator of the universe) and spelling His name with a &quot;small g&quot;!!  He is to be worshipped, He is to be praised, and even as special and holy as His Word is, yet His name is magnified even above His Word.  {Psalm 138:2} 

And for the record, Scripture = FACTS!!!

Jesus alone is the way, THE TRUTH, and the life!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah&#8230; SO THANKFUL for you!  For your ministry, for this article!  For your boldness. And yes, even thankful for your background, only b/c you rejected it, turned your back to it &amp; ran to the Lord alone for salvation!  Yet b/c of it, you truly know what you&#8217;re talking about.  All credit to God!  Truly a Romans 8:28 blessing!</p>
<p>And to the first poster &#8212; NO, the two trains of thought should NOT be unified, as we can serve ONLY ONE GOD!!  Also perhaps it was an oversight, but I don&#8217;t appreciate your writing about God (Creator of the universe) and spelling His name with a &#8220;small g&#8221;!!  He is to be worshipped, He is to be praised, and even as special and holy as His Word is, yet His name is magnified even above His Word.  {Psalm 138:2} </p>
<p>And for the record, Scripture = FACTS!!!</p>
<p>Jesus alone is the way, THE TRUTH, and the life!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-230191&quot;&gt;Lawrence&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Lawrence

you said &quot;What you seem to believe is that there is a duality between the followers of god and the followers of the occult&quot;

Um, no.

you said &quot;There are actually a polarity of your beliefs and the other’s.&quot;

Um, no.

you said &quot;Both agree that the principles and laws of nature come directly from god.&quot;

Um, no.  Christians believe in God, occultists do not not.

you said &quot;meditation and prayer are two practices that work to create a real action in the world by focusing our consciousness on a particular goal.&quot;

Um, no.  Christian prayer/meditation is completely different to occult mediation etc, etc, etc.

you said &quot;I want these two trains of thought to be unified&quot;

Um, no, never.

you said &quot;&gt;and if you can not come together than argue your point based on facts&quot;

Read the article.

you said &quot;not scripture taken out of context.&quot;

You&#039;re an occultist, not a Christian. Yyou know nothing of what scripture means because you do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you, if you did you would SEE that what you speak goes AGAINST scripture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/#comment-230191" >Lawrence</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Lawrence</p>
<p>you said &#8220;What you seem to believe is that there is a duality between the followers of god and the followers of the occult&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;There are actually a polarity of your beliefs and the other’s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;Both agree that the principles and laws of nature come directly from god.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no.  Christians believe in God, occultists do not not.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;meditation and prayer are two practices that work to create a real action in the world by focusing our consciousness on a particular goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no.  Christian prayer/meditation is completely different to occult mediation etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;I want these two trains of thought to be unified&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no, never.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;>and if you can not come together than argue your point based on facts&#8221;</p>
<p>Read the article.</p>
<p>you said &#8220;not scripture taken out of context.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an occultist, not a Christian. Yyou know nothing of what scripture means because you do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you, if you did you would SEE that what you speak goes AGAINST scripture.</p>
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