Seeing that Mildred has vanisehd, I will answer the question I asked her:

You said “That it might develop until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the full and accurate knowledge of the Son of God, so that we might mature into the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard of Christ’s own fullness and perfection.” [Emphasis added]

I said “Please explain this to me more clearly…what exactly are you saying here, I have an idea but I would like you to tell me, when and where will this ‘oneness of unity…this maturing of our personalities into Christ’s own fullness and perfection’ take place?”

Let me explain what Midlred is talking about:

MANIFEST SONS OF GOD

One of most radical teachings in the NAR movement is known as the “Manifest Sons of God” teaching. According to this teaching, the people who continue to receive the new revelation given by NAR apostles and prophets, now called Issachar prophets will gain more and more supernatural powers until they eventually become “manifest sons of God.” These manifested sons of God will overcome sickness and death and execute God’s judgments on earth.

New Apostolic Leaders leaders claim that this teaching is taught in the Bible in Romans 8:19, which reads:

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

The Manifest Sons of God teaching was originally promoted by leaders of the Latter Rain movement, such as William Branham and George Warnock. More contemporary promoters of this teaching include U.S. prophets C.Peter Wagner et al, Paul Cain, Rick Joyner and Bill Hamon and here in South Africa – Angus Buchan -‘Manifest Sons of God’ belief of Angus Buchan

Bill Hamon, for example, teaches that the manifested sons of God will be patterned after the original son of God, Jesus Christ. He also teaches that the worldwide church will be a type of corporate Christ, which will be the full expression of Christ Jesus as Jesus is the full expression of His heavenly Father. Thus, the Manifest Son of God teaching is denounced by its critics as heretical since it deifies human beings.

A related teaching, promoted by Bill Hamon, is that the rapture of believers will occur only when New Apostolic Reformation followers receive the last piece of new revelation given by NAR apostles and prophets, then instantaneously they will be giving them immortal bodies with superhuman powers. Thus, Bill Hamon appears to be teaching that the rapture is not something God does for Christians, but is something mankind accomplishes for themselves as they gain more and more secret knowledge revealed by the NAR apostles and prophets.

According to followers of the NAR, Jesus Christ can’t return until the world has been overthrown and is under a so called ‘Christian’ theocratic rule – without Jesus Christ at it’s head.

Mildred has very subtly and, may I say, cunningly dodged the real issue by quoting just about the entire New Testament without really understanding why we are warning Christians against the likes of Michelle Strydom and Caroline Leaf. Indeed, godly love (and not just love) is the highest and most important of all the gifts. However, love that does not warn others when you see them being led astray, is a false love.

She asked “May I ask what do you understand of all these verses? Deut 5:9, Psalms 38:3, 107:17, Jeremiah 30:12-15, Micah 6:13, Zephaniah 1:17, Isaiah 6:10, Matthew 13:12-15, Mark 4:12, John 12:37-40, Acts 28:24-27.

Deut 5:9 is the first commandment of the ten God gave to Moses on Mount Sinai. “You shall have no other gods before me . . .” and “You shall not bow yourself before them.” warns against idolatry. Idolatry comes in many forms. One of them is to misrepresent the only true God. Guess what, that’s precisely what both Strydom and Leaf are doing. Strydom says: “Thoughts are powerful. They have creative ability. They shape your life. . . . What you think, is what you get, for better or for worse. It is ENTIRELY up to you. If you want your life to change; if you are not happy with the state of your health, you’ve got to change your thinking.” Mildred, do you see the idolatry in her words – “Thoughts are powerful. They have creative ability.” Do you really believe that your thoughts (positive or negative) have creative powers? Well, if you do you are saying that you are God because He alone has creative powers. He is the Creator, not your thoughts. According to your view of Deut. 5:9 both Caroline Leaf and Michelle Strydom should be deadly sick right now for they have committed the most heinous sin imaginable by suggesting that they and others are gods who can create reality with their thoughts. If you believe as they do, you too should now be sick as a result of God’s judgment on your idolatry.

Psalm 38:3: According to Caroline Leaf King David suffered disease in his body because his thoughts, which were supposedly so powerful that it had creative abilities to heal himself, he failed to do so because of his negative thoughts. Indeed, David suffered a disease in his flesh because of his sin and was restored to good health when he confessed his sin to the Lord. (Psalm 51) and NOT because it was entirely up to him to be healed. Paul of Tarsus also suffered disease in his body (2 Corinthians 12:7-9), not because of sin but because God’sd grace is sufficient and it pleased Him to make his strength known in weakness.

Psalm 107:17: Here again, it was not the manipulation of their thoughts that healed them. When rebellious sinners were afflicted and near the gates of death, they cried to the Lord and He healed them by his Word and NOT their thoughts (positive confessions or thoughts).

John 12:37-40: Mildred are you blind. Can’t you see the difference between physical and spiritual blindness?

Jeremiah 30:12-15. This passage does not involve physical disease but spiritual affliction.

Micah 6:13: Here too, it does not refer to physical disease but God’s judgment on Israel’s harvests Their planting would bring no harvest and God would not allow them to enjoy the fruit of their labour.

Zephaniah 1:17: Here again the blindness of Israel is a spiritual one and not physical.

Isaiah 6:10: Apparently Mildred does not know what spiritual healing or restoration is. There is nothing whatsoever to be found in this verse that is even remotely a physical disease.

Matthew 13:12-15 (Mark 4:12): This is yet another example of how health, wealth and prosperity culprits twist God’s word to suit their beliefs. This has nothing to do with physical illness.

Acts 28:24-27 is the fulfilment of the prophecy in Isaiah 6:10. Spiritual blindness does not equal physical blindness.

Dear Mildred

Phewww I see you laid out your Latter Rain / Apostolic and Prophetic beliefs there rather thick…

You said “That it might develop until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the full and accurate knowledge of the Son of God, so that we might mature into the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard of Christ’s own fullness and perfection.” [Emphasis added]

Please explain this to me more clearly…what exactly are you saying here, I have an idea but I would like you to tell me, when and where will this ‘oneness of unity…this maturing of our personalities into Christ’s own fullness and perfection’ take place?

You said “After quiet time with the Lord, I have come to realise that there are at least these many reasons why we get sick, and am now correcting myself:
1) God’s judgement/ punishment/ discipline on our sins
2) So that the glory and works of God might be displayed (John 9:3)
3) God’s testing to build faith (story of Job)”

And I see you have somehow inconspicuously left out the very simple fact that people are sick because we live in a fallen, sick and diseased world and that most illness has absolutely nothing to do with sin, seeking forgiveness or demonic affliction – but just being plain old fashioned sick!

Do you speak in tongues Mildred?
Have you been slain in the spirit?
What church do you go to if you don’t mind me asking?

All of us ought to seriously consider that there’s possibly a plank in our own eyes, before trying to remove the speck in other’s eyes.

And I also get the impression that you don’t think you have any sin to repent of. Again if I have misunderstood you, please correct me.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, we make God a liar, and His word is not in us.

You seem to be claiming things that are not biblical:
– “dissect into different parts of “truths” and discuss their individual findings to find common ground or to agree to disagree”
– “Your entire premise is based on feelings.”
– “If you’d been there to tell her your nonsense and infamous rubbish, I would have literally chased you away.”
– “Or perhaps, you are so overjoyed with the joy of the Lord when you suffer some kind of malady, that you do not mind being sick and rather not pray for the forgiveness of sin in your life, because you might lose out on the joy of the Lord.”

Oh dear, I’m not at all talking about feelings my dear!! I’m speaking of the fruit of the Spirit – love, joy, peace, … Galatians 5:22

Those who walk and live habitually in the Holy Spirit will be responsive to and controlled and guided by the Spirit. If we profess to be true Christians, we have to ask ourselves, do we manifest the fruits of the Spirit in our daily lives?

Do we speak and act at all times with love for our neighbour? Is the joy of the Lord our strength and stronghold? Do we have the peace that surpasses all understanding, the sort of peace that fears nothing and is content with whatever earthly lot we are in?

In expounding the truth of the gospel, we need to ask ourselves, are we doing it for self-glorification to say “I’m right and you’re wrong”, or do we do it to win over the heart of a neighbour for Christ’s sake? Do we do it out of love for the other person? If we have the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose, and understand all the truths and possess all knowledge, and if we have faith that can remove mountains, but have not love (God’s love in us), then we are nothing.

Do we take utmost care that whatever we speak or write will be good and beneficial to the spiritual progress of others, as is fitting to the need and the occasion, that it may be a blessing and give grace (God’s favour) to those who hear it?

Out of the fullness of the heart, the mouth speaks. Do you really believe in your heart that the humble act of asking God for forgiveness will rob away the joy of the Lord? That is not at all biblical. In fact the opposite is true: that we only receive true joy of the Lord through true heartfelt repentance. You have not understood what Romans 8:1 means.

May I ask what do you understand of all these verses? Deut 5:9, Psalms 38:3, 107:17, Jeremiah 30:12-15, Micah 6:13, Zephaniah 1:17, Isaiah 6:10, Matthew 13:12-15, Mark 4:12, John 12:37-40, Acts 28:24-27
Are these verses saying that diseases are not consequences of sin? And are they saying that God does not withhold His healing as a discipline for sin?
Please explain them. Perhaps I have not understood these verses correctly.

We ought not quench the Holy Spirit by rejecting, with disdain or contempt, prophetic revelations, or ignore inspired instruction, exhortation or warning. But we all ought to test and prove all things until we can recognise what is good, and to that, hold fast.

I want you to understand that no one speaking under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit of God can ever say, “Jesus be cursed!” And no one can really say, “Jesus is my Lord”, except by and under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit.

Now there are distinctive varieties and distributions of gifts and extraordinary powers distinguishing Christians, due to the power of divine grace operating in our souls by the Holy Spirit and they vary, but the Holy Spirit remains the same. And there are distinctive varieties of service and ministries, but it is the same Lord who is served. And there are distinctive varieties of workings to accomplish things, but it is the same God who inspires and energizes us all.

To each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit, the spiritual illumination and the enabling of the Holy Spirit, for the common good.
– To one is given in and through the Holy Spirit the power to speak a message of wisdom,
– and to another the power to express a word of knowledge and understanding according to the same Holy Spirit;
– To another wonder-working faith by the same Holy Spirit,
– to another the extraordinary powers of healing by the one Spirit;
– To another the working of miracles,
– to another prophetic insight (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose);
– to another the ability to discern and distinguish between the utterances of true spirits and false ones,
– to another various kinds of unknown tongues,
– to another the ability to interpret such tongues.

All these gifts and abilities are inspired and brought to pass by one and the same Holy Spirit, who apportions to each person individually exactly as He chooses.

For just as the body is a unity and yet has many parts, and all the parts, though many, form only one body, so it is with Christ the Messiah. For by one Holy Spirit we were all baptized into one body, spiritually transformed, united together, and we were all made to drink of one Holy Spirit, since the same Holy Spirit fills each life.

For the body does not consist of one limb or organ but of many. So God has appointed some in the church for His own use:
– first apostles or special messengers;
– second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders);
– third teachers;
– then wonder-workers;
– then those with ability to heal the sick;
– helpers;
– administrators;
– speakers in different unknown tongues.

Are all apostles (special messengers)?
Are all prophets (inspired interpreters of the will and purposes of God)?
Are all teachers?
Do all have the power of performing miracles?
Do all possess extraordinary powers of healing?
Do all speak with tongues?
Do all interpret tongues?

But earnestly desire and zealously cultivate the greatest and best gifts and graces. And yet I will show you a still more excellent way, one that is better by far and the highest of them all—love.

God’s intention is the perfecting and the full equipping of His consecrated people, so that we should do the work of ministering toward building up Christ’s body, the church.

That it might develop until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the full and accurate knowledge of the Son of God, so that we might mature into the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard of Christ’s own fullness and perfection.

So let those inspired to preach or teach speak, while the rest pay attention and weigh and discern what is said. But if an inspired revelation comes to another, then let the first one be silent. For in this way we can all give testimony and prophesy and interpret the divine will and purpose one by one, so that all may be instructed and all may be stimulated and encouraged.

I am not God, so I recognise that I cannot know everything. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part, for our knowledge is fragmentary and incomplete. And I’m an imperfect being who will inevitably make mistakes.

After quiet time with the Lord, I have come to realise that there are at least these many reasons why we get sick, and am now correcting myself:
1) God’s judgement/ punishment/ discipline on our sins
2) So that the glory and works of God might be displayed (John 9:3)
3) God’s testing to build faith (story of Job)

As I’ve mentioned, it is utterly inconsequential whether one gets healed of any disease or not. The healing is fully God’s sovereignty and not within our control, and certainly NOT to be expected or demanded.

Rather, all of us have a duty to constantly, humbly, reverentially seek God to reveal to us our own sins and repent of them – that kind of attitude was what characterised the lifestyle of King David in the Psalms, and that’s the reason why he was called “a man after God’s own heart”.

Even Job, who had been deemed righteous by God, in the end, was made to repent in dust and ashes. So even if we sincerely believe we have not wilfully sinned against God, we still have to repent.

And repentance (metanoia) means a transformative change of heart, the renewing of the mindset, taking on new ideals and attitudes that are in keeping with the mind of Christ.

And like in Job’s case, God may even possibly restore all health and blessings back to us. God is the same yesterday, and today, and forever, amazing Grace.

Practically for me, this is the kind of attitude I want to have before my God: continue to work out my salvation, cultivate it to full, actively pursue spiritual maturity, with awe-inspired fear and trembling, using serious caution and critical self-evaluation, self-distrust, tenderness of conscience, watchfulness against temptation, timidly shrinking to avoid anything that might offend God or discredit the name of Christ.

For it is not our strength, but it is God who is effectively at work in us, strengthening, energizing, and creating in us the longing and the ability to fulfill our purpose, both to will and to work for His good pleasure, satisfaction and delight.

Thank you Tom! 🙂

Mildred Ho wrote:

I do not take any human side, for I do not serve any human, but I serve God alone. (Ephesians 6:12)

I do enjoy your honest heartfelt arguments, in the same spirit as Acts 17:17. That should be the way to work out our salvation with fear and trembling – to argue sincerely and to listen humbly to one another’s arguments.

We, none of us, ought to be over-complacent about our own understanding of God’s word, since after all, we none of us are gods, none of us can possibly know completely accurately the complete counsel of God, 100%.

I neither fully agree with you nor with Dr Michelle. But I listen to both without being judgemental (Matthew 7:1-5), and I meditate on what you all say, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to me the real truth.

All of us are like blind men trying to feel different parts of a huge elephant. Some understand the head, but not the chest, some understand the chest but not the limbs, etc.

So the right thing to do for one who understands the head for example, is not to refuse to listen to another who doesn’t seem to understand the head (but seems to talk about the chest a lot), but instead, to listen carefully to one another’s view points with humility and reverential fear of the Lord, committing everything we hear to the Lord and seeking His guidance and wisdom.

Hi Mildred. It seems you are prepared to teach Jesus a huge lesson and prove Him wrong when He said:

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” (Joh 16:13)

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (Joh 8:32)

I really don’t think Jesus is interested in your little example of the elephant. The truth of which He speaks is not split into different parts, one of which is ensconced in the elephant’s head, the other in his chest, and yet another in his limbs. Truth is a Person (John 14:6) and not an elephant blind people are supposed to dissect into different parts of “truths” and discuss their individual findings to seek common ground or to agree to disagree.

Jude distinctly says that we should earnestly contend for the faith that was once (not twice or thrice or in different parts) delivered unto the saints (verse 3). You either know the truth or you don’t (John 10:1-5). You don’t listen to both sides of an argument or statement and then, in a false humility kind of way, say to both “I have heard you both and because I don’t want to be judgmental, I will pray about it and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to me the real truth.” There is no such thing as REAL truth. Jesus said: “I AM the Truth” and not “I AM the real truth,” suggesting that there are many other truths but that He is the real truth.

Yes, of course, the Spirit guides you into the truth. However, He guides you through God’s written Word (closed Canon) and not through so-called revelations, feelings, or an inner voice, the silence (contemplative meditation like Lectio Divina), etc. Jesus said He shall not speak of Himself. That means the Holy Spirit shall always remain faithful to God’s written Word and never go beyond its parameters.

I can assure you that your views with regard to sickness, suffering and disease and sin are definitely NOT of the Holy Spirit. You wrote:

True godly sacrifice (the suffering that God willed or intended), always is accompanied by deep inner joy (of the Lord), peace (shalom peace) and the wonderful perfect knowledge of God’s love for the victim. It is always accompanied by God’s full measure of supernatural strength and courage. (2 Cor 9:8)

True godly suffering ironically NEVER feels like sacrifice, but instead always feels like an honour, a privilege, something that the person involved is extremely passionate about – Acts 4:32-33, Acts 5:41-42, Acts 6:15, Acts 16:23-25, 2 Cor 6:10, Col 1:24, Hebrews 10:34,

So the questions we need to ask ourselves are: Does my cancer (for example) give me shalom peace? Does my cancer bring me deep joy of the Lord? Am I fully convinced of the love of God for me through my cancer? If our answers are all yes (from the bottom of our hearts), then indeed this is God’s will (Romans 12:2).

But if we do not experience shalom peace, we do not feel joyful about having cancer, we are even secretly harbouring doubts about God’s favour upon us, then this is proof that this disease is not God’s will (but perhaps is God’s judgement).

Your entire premise is based on feelings. If you feel joy in your heart, then your cancer is the will of God. If you don’t feel any joy, then it is God’s judgement. Do you really tell people this who suffer from cancer? My sister was 30 years old when she died of cancer. By the grace of God, she was saved before she died. If you’d been there to tell her your nonsense and infamous rubbish, I would have literally chased you away.

You wrote:

So, even if we don’t mind getting cancer and die of it, this willingness to die still does not relief us of our responsibility to repent of our sins if they exist.

And if the diseases are consequences of our sins, it may simply mean that those sins have not yet been forgiven and written off by God, since we know that, in the gospels, forgiveness of sin goes hand in hand with healing. (Matthew 8:4, 9:5-6, Mark 2:9-11, Luke 5:23-24).

So it appears that, healing is an outward sign, a proof of God’s forgiveness.

NO! the proof of God’s forgiveness lies in the fact that a repentant sinner puts his faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross and not that there are some unforgiven sins in your life. When last did you suffer from a common cold? Did you pray for forgiveness and suddenly you were healed or did you go to the chemist and buy some medicine to take for your common cold? (1 Timothy 5:23). Do you wear spectacles? Oops, you may have to pray for the forgiveness of some sin in your life. Or perhaps, you are so overjoyed with the joy of the Lord when you suffer some kind of malady, that you do not mind being sick and rather not pray for the forgiveness of sin in your life, because you might lose out on the joy of the Lord. What a vicious circle you must be in when you need to decide whether you have the joy of the Lord and, therefore, happily accept your common cold, or experience it as the judgment of the Lord and pray for forgiveness.

Do you remember the incident when Jesus healed a blind man? Let’s look at it.

And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. (John 9:1-3).

The reason why Jesus’ disciples asked Him the question was because, at that stage, they were still heavily influenced by the Pharisees’ teaching on disease. Guess what? The Pharisees invented the lie that disease and demon possession were the caused of sin.

Get thee behind me Satan. The quicker you burn Drs. Caroline Leaf’s and Michelle Strydom’s books the better for you.

I do enjoy your honest heartfelt arguments, in the same spirit as Acts 17:17. That should be the way to work out our salvation with fear and trembling – to argue sincerely and to listen humbly to one another’s arguments.

We, none of us, ought to be over-complacent about our own understanding of God’s word, since after all, we none of us are gods, none of us can possibly know completely accurately the complete counsel of God, 100%.

I neither fully agree with you nor with Dr Michelle. But I listen to both without being judgemental (Matthew 7:1-5), and I meditate on what you all say, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to me the real truth.

All of us are like blind men trying to feel different parts of a huge elephant. Some understand the head, but not the chest, some understand the chest but not the limbs, etc.

So the right thing to do for one who understands the head for example, is not to refuse to listen to another who doesn’t seem to understand the head (but seems to talk about the chest a lot), but instead, to listen carefully to one another’s view points with humility and reverential fear of the Lord, committing everything we hear to the Lord and seeking His guidance and wisdom.

If Dr Michelle is not humble enough to listen to other people’s arguments, then I’m truly sorry for her, for she will be judged by God for her wilfulness. But I urge you, not to follow in the same way, out of reverential fear of the Lord.

This is my understanding of diseases.

A lot of Christians have the thinking that “it is God’s will that we get sick”, be it simple cough and cold, or terminal cancer.

We can tell whether it is God’s will by the presence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit that comes along with God’s calling (if indeed He really did call us to suffer disease).

God always equips fully those whom He has called to suffer, and His blessing is always described as “overflowing” (Psalms). He doesn’t only just give barely enough to sustain, He gives and gives till our whole being is full to the brim and overflowing. And He certainly will never ever give less than adequate for any circumstance. (1 Cor 10:13)

True godly sacrifice (the suffering that God willed or intended), always is accompanied by deep inner joy (of the Lord), peace (shalom peace) and the wonderful perfect knowledge of God’s love for the victim. It is always accompanied by God’s full measure of supernatural strength and courage. (2 Cor 9:8)

True godly suffering ironically NEVER feels like sacrifice, but instead always feels like an honour, a privilege, something that the person involved is extremely passionate about – Acts 4:32-33, Acts 5:41-42, Acts 6:15, Acts 16:23-25, 2 Cor 6:10, Col 1:24, Hebrews 10:34,

So the questions we need to ask ourselves are: Does my cancer (for example) give me shalom peace? Does my cancer bring me deep joy of the Lord? Am I fully convinced of the love of God for me through my cancer? If our answers are all yes (from the bottom of our hearts), then indeed this is God’s will (Romans 12:2).

But if we do not experience shalom peace, we do not feel joyful about having cancer, we are even secretly harbouring doubts about God’s favour upon us, then this is proof that this disease is not God’s will (but perhaps is God’s judgement).

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

This is not saying that the sickness and disease is God’s will, but rather it is explaining that, even if bad things happen as a consequence of our sins and stubbornness, God can still work something good in us through this unintended suffering.

Eg Genesis 50:20 – it will be blasphemous to say that God intended for Joseph’s brothers to bully him, sell him as slave and lie to their father about his death. God is a Holy God! He will never ever conceive such evil plans! (James 1:13-16) Even though in the end all these evil acts caused the “saving of many lives”, yet all those evil events that led to this end cannot be called God’s will!!

Romans 12:2 – God’s will is always good, always pleasing, always perfect.

If you search the entire bible, you cannot find even one verse that says it is God’s intended good pleasing and perfect will for you to suffer disease and die of it.

But you do find a lot of verses that profess God’s desire to heal. As well as all the verses that say disease is a consequence and God’s judgement for sin. (Deut 5:9, Psalms 38:3, 107:17, Jeremiah 30:12-15, Micah 6:13, Zephaniah 1:17, Isaiah 6:10, Matthew 13:12-15, Mark 4:12, John 12:37-40, Acts 28:24-27
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Diseases

And it is God who allows Satan to bring suffering and diseases upon Christians, in spite of us all having said the sinner’s prayer and baptised, and therefore technically already “saved” by the blood of the Lamb.

So clearly God is allowing us, the “saved”, to continue suffering the consequences of our sins.

But haven’t our sins been written off “once for all”? (Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27) Why then are we still paying the price of our sins through our diseases?

It is indeed true that not all 100% of diseases are the consequences of sin. (John 9:3) But if we take this rare case as an example to explain why we get diseases, we have to understand again the five solae – specifically “glory to God alone”.

If we dare to claim that our own diseases are not due to our own sins or our ancestors’ sins, then it has to follow that somehow “the works of God should be revealed in” us. So if we do not experience any miracle healing, we have to naturally conclude that our diseases are not the “for the works of God to be revealed” kind. Logically then, our diseases are most likely due to our sins.

So, even if we don’t mind getting cancer and die of it, this willingness to die still does not relief us of our responsibility to repent of our sins if they exist.

And if the diseases are consequences of our sins, it may simply mean that those sins have not yet been forgiven and written off by God, since we know that, in the gospels, forgiveness of sin goes hand in hand with healing. (Matthew 8:4, 9:5-6, Mark 2:9-11, Luke 5:23-24,

So it appears that, healing is an outward sign, a proof of God’s forgiveness.

While continued sickness is a proof of our unrepentance. It is our unrepentance that is the culprit, because God will never intentionally withhold what is good from us (Psalm 84:11). He will never choose NOT to forgive anyone who repents and seeks His forgiveness.

So God’s will for us when we get sick, is not to be zen and nonchalant about our sickness, but rather earnestly and humbly repent in dust and ashes and ask Him to reveal to us which sin/s is He judging/ disciplining us for.

Psalm 51:17 My sacrifice [the only sacrifice acceptable] to God is a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart [broken down with sorrow for sin and humbly and thoroughly penitent], such, O God, You will not despise.

God is gracious and merciful, slow to anger and abounding in love. He may possibly be pleased with our humble sincere repentance (of the specifically revealed sin), and grant us miracle healing – which is the grace of God.

But it is utterly inconsequential whether one gets healed of any disease or not (the healing is fully God’s sovereignty and not within our control).

Rather, all of us have a duty to constantly, humbly, reverentially seek God to reveal to us our own sins and repent of them. (John 13:8-10)

Mildred

From our own experience, we know that she won’t listen to us because of this prophecy.

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2 Tim 4:1-4).

However, what we are trying to do is to urge people like you who sit on the fence to make a decision for or against Jesus Christ. The Jesus Caroline Leaf and Dr. Strydom is proclaiming is NOT the Jesus of the Bible.

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. ( 2 Cor 11:1-4)

Are you prepared to follow another Jesus, believe another gospel and be saturated with another spirit?

Dear Mildred,

She can read, therefore she can read our website. If you feel she hasn’t searched on the internet and come across our articles (like you have), you are more than welcome to send her links to all our articles: Here is the link: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/pastors-teachers-speakers/m/michelle-strydom-dr/

Tell me, are you wanting her to know the truth regarding what is said in our articles, and that she is preaching falsely, or do you just want her to just read what we say about her teaching?

Which side of the fence do you sit? The New Age side (Dr Strydom) or the Gospel that Jesus Christ preached (DTW)?

Remember that sitting on the fence is what the bible calls ‘lukewarm’, and God says this reading lukewarm people (fence sitters):

Revelation 3:16 “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”