Comments on: IT’S TIME – Transformation South Africa

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:44:09 +0000

In reply to Jacqui. Hi Jacqui Oh don't worry :smile: it's all good.

By: Jacqui

Jacqui — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:05:05 +0000

Sorry Sorry/ Debbie for not including your name in my last post. Please, you and Tom continue to expose the doctrines of demons that are ravaging the Body of Christ today. Do not be discouraged by the negative comments or those who are unsubscribing because of the Truth. Be encouraged by those who are encouraged, the Body of Christ need Watchmen to expose the ravenous wolves who are deceiving the sheep and last but not least be encouraged in the Lord Jesus Christ. 🙂

Thank you!

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:24:41 +0000

In reply to Koko. Hi Koko :hi: Thank you so much for your comment!!

By: Jacqui

Jacqui — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:16:51 +0000

Tom (Discerning the World) wrote:

Hi Jacqui.

Thank you for your comment and kind words which, I must say, are so rare in our “time.” I recently wrote an email to a friend to remind him of the new article. He sent one back accusing me of being judgmental. There goes the friendship. Friends and my own flesh and blood are turning their backs on me like nobody’s business. I’ve been saved for many years and am only now really beginning to understand what Jesus meant when He said,

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. (Luk 14:26-30)

Please help, Deborah. I don’t know how it’s done. The printing, that is.

Hi Tom

Yes I know exactly what you are saying, we have been out of the system for over 25 years. We live in a dark country, France,(I’m originally from Durban) the Christians we come into contact with including some family members just don’t want to know the truth, they don’t test the spirits, are not like the Bereans, they have been bewitched by false teaching etc they don’t read their Bibles or if they do they try and fit their doctrines in….. Well, we know that things are going to get worse. Keep up the good work and continue to expose the false teachers and their teaching.
Maranatha!

By: Charl

Charl — Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:29:59 +0000

Hi julle. Baie dankie vir die artikel. Ek bly in bloem en baie mens hier gaan soontoe. Ek vertrou dit self nie aangesien ek weet die ware herlewings was nooit mens georganiseerd nie. My vraag is – indien hierdie dimg nie van God af is nie, wat is die gevare betrokke om dir by te woon? Wat moet mens vir gelowiges se wat oppad is soontoe? Van laasjaar die tyd af waarsku die Here ñ hele klomp van ons oor babilon en geestelike babilon. En konstant kom dot op.

By: Mike Evans

Mike Evans — Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:46:10 +0000

Excellent, comprehensive and incisive article Tom. These ‘gatherings’ of false believers seem to be gaining momentum and becoming more obviously apostate to those with discernment. As well as the annual, youth-orientated ‘Passion’ and IHOP meetings, we have had the ultra-heretical ‘Azusa Now’ (where they certainly got more of the spirits who began deceiving people at the so-called Azusa Revival of 1906,which even Charles Parham denounced as demonic), ‘Together 2016’, designed to give a ‘Jesus reset’ to the USA and blessed by both Billy Graham and the Pope,an ecumenical conference called ‘The Gathering’ in September of last year and now Angus and his warped dream of a million people doing NAR rituals (repenting for the nation and no doubt for sins of ancestors etc).
I visited a ‘Christian’ book shop in Melbourne recently and was shocked to see Bill Johnson’s latest book on display at the counter and the shelves full of false teaching by the so-called apostles and prophets of the NAR. Most who I have attempted to warn regarding the cult of Pentecostalism and this explosion of last days heresy have shunned me. We are in the minority and this strong delusion is hard to break through when people have seemingly gone past a ‘point of no return’. I trust that there will be a report on the outcome of this debacle on April 22nd. I am sure they will get their hoped-for ‘shift in the spirit realm’ but it will be from the hyperactive spirit of AntiChrist which John warned us of in his epistle.

By: Koko

Koko — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 08:21:26 +0000

Hi Tom, God bless you and Debs and the DTW team. People accuse you of being judgemental. Far from it! What you folks are doing is very biblical and SO needed. Many people (and I used to be like that but not anymore, no Sir) are not being bereans. Discernment is lacking and as such many will be deceived. Since I started doing a “berean” on everything I ever imbibed with re: doctrines, I am shocked at how so many teachings prevalent in so many churches, are to put quite simply, unbiblical. And this site has also been a tremendous blessing. You helped me to SEE that I had been deceived on some biblical issues like being slain in the spirit for example. There is TRULY no scriptural reference for this as with many other false teachings that are now common place in so many churches. False gospels or teachings on the essentials of our faith will unfortunately send MANY to hell and I now have ZERO tolerance for it. If it is not biblical, away with it and fast. Also I check everything you post, and what you teach does not deviate but is in alignment with sound doctrine. You STICK to the word like glue. In one or two instances were there was an error on something taught, you are quick to PUBLICLY acknowledge, apologize and correct the error. This was something I was on the look out for because it shows a humble heart. And who does God teach His word? The meek. Psalm 25:9, “The meek will He guide in judgement: the meek will He teach His way”. So keep up the good work pls. For all those that don’t appreciate what you do, there are others still that do. :thumbsup:

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 01:07:03 +0000

In reply to Koko.

Hi Koko,

Thank you very much for your comment and how Jesus saved you from a cult so very dangerous. May more peoples’ eyes be opened to see in kind of dangerous cult they are involved. What you described in your comment sounds a lot like Freemasonry. God bless and may He use you to reach many lost souls for Him.

By: Koko

Koko — Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:02:55 +0000

Hello everyone, This dominionist/kingdom now false doctrine is sweeping through churches and countries at an alarming. Was part of an institute that is into national transformation. They’ve conducted training (and still do) in many African nations including Nigeria, Uganda, Kenya, SA etc. These folks have perverted the gospel to mean and/or include saving whole nations by sanitizing them ie giving them values. They don’t preach Christ. They preach values. They believe those who extol values shiw that they indeed kniw God. 2.) They believe they are the “select few” or “Joel’s Army” that will disciple whole nations and take them back for Christ. They are trying to raise a formidable number within all spheres of society who they call “change agents” that they will “send out” to go and recapture the 7 main spheres of society. 3.) They place all emphasis on knowledge acquisition because only those who are knowledgeable can rise to the top of their spheres where they will be able to exert their influence (so there is a shift from reliance on Christ to reliance on one’s own knowledge). 4.) They are military like. Their training (some of which I attended) are boot camps and we used non-christian material which showcased the good values held by different individuals many of them non christian. They are very rigid, don’t encourage the display of emotions, but encourage competition. They push you to breaking point. 5.) They believe Africa will be transformed and will rise again. (I wonder which scriptural reference exists for this belief because from what I see in the bible things are only going to get worse). 6.) When you conclude training, you are made a member of the institute UNDER AN OATH that says something to the effect that “henceforth you must become an agent of change in the society otherwise……”. Yes it’s a demonic oath. 7.) They preach a perverted gospel, raise false hopes, are prepared to work with whoever to achieve their goals (all faiths welcome so long as you have VALUES) and send people on a wild goose chase ever acquiring more and more knowledge so that they can achieve their lofty goals which they won’t ofcourse. I know someone who left everything to go acquire “more knowledge” in the states. At the heart of all of this is pride. They want to do what only Christ can and will do and walk around feeling smug that they are part of the “select few”. Every one of them wants to go “take back” their sphere of influence to the point where they don’t even want Jesus Christ to come back yet. This was a statement made by one of them when I said I believe we are very much in the last hour and Jesus could return at any moment. He said “oh not yet. I want to be able to make a difference in my sphere first”. I just thank God that He, in His great great mercy, opened my eyes to the truth of what I was involved in.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:13:58 +0000

Hallooo Tom
This article is in time and on time Angus has been deceived and is just one of many so called believers who have been turned by fame,popularity and lack of discernment.
Donald Trump has become the unifier for the ecumenical movement to give it its moral authority and Lamb like appearance that speaks like a dragon.
Angus in SA is the unifier to help bringing in a state/religious unity which will merge with all other to support the RCC and give the beast in Rev 13 his image – soon we will hear bacause of loabal warming etc etc that we must support SUNDAY LAW to rest and save the earth and so on – and as you have recently commented on (Luke 14 : 26-30)
I to have come to this- A child of mine does not agree with my steadfast application of truth and scripture and therefore we are set against one another, but so be it The Lord Himself will deal with them, and like you said i also no longer have “Freinds” i am now on the fringe according to them and not seeking unity but division.
Keep u the good work Trust in the Lord and do not despair. We are the living stones and covered by His grace and shall soon be vindicated.
A new friend recently asked me what I thought about 1 million gathering for Angus and a few days later this is what was put before me. ((Mathew 16:4 it is a wicked generation that seeks after signs……..)
May you be blessed with peace and understanding in these times.
Eddy