Seeking Salvation or Deliverance?

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Need Help?  Are you seeking deliverance or are you just seeking salvation?  You have come to the right place!

I am going to get right to the point regarding deliverance because I know you are desperate and need urgent help.  If you want salvation through Jesus Christ the Son of God please read steps No.1 and No.2).  If you need deliverance from either affliction or possession, please follow steps No.1) to No.6).

Here is what you need to do to for salvation and/or for deliverance:

This is for anyone; those who think they are Christian but are not sure, i.e, you do not have surety of salvation, those who are Charismatic, Pentecostal (believing in Baptism of the Holy Spirit by sign of gifts, i.e., speaking in so called ‘heavenly’ tongues, and or thinking they have the ability to heal people), Zionist (ZCC church), Anglican, Catholic, Calvinist, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc. Those in the Occult / New Age, Wiccan, Pagan or an unbeliever be that an atheist, agnostic etc. Or if you are Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, or any other religion like Bahá’í etc.

A NOTE:  Please do not go to a so called “deliverance minister/pastor” Or anyone who says they can cast demons out from you.  In this day and age there are so many fake deliverance ministers, chances are you will leave there with more demons attached to you than what you went with.  Anyone who speaks about Exorcism is Catholic, please do not go to an Exorcist.

“7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.” (James 4:7-8)

A Christian but plagued by a demonic spirit in your home?

Please refer to No.3 and No.5.  If you are a Christian but were disobedient to God and sinned and brought a demonic entity into your life, or you sinned by bringing something of occult origin into your home and you find yourself plagued by a demonic entity.

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Ecclesiastes 7:20).

BUT

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”  (1 John 1:9)

PLEASE READ:

Peter’s Sermon:

Acts 3:1-26 (KJV)

Peter preaching to the people that came to see a lame man restored to his feet

1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. 2 And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; 3 Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. 4 And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. 5 And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. 6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. 7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ancle bones received strength. 8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. 9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God: 10 And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him. 11 And as the lame man which was healed held Peter and John, all the people ran together unto them in the porch that is called Solomon’s, greatly wondering.

Professes the cure not to have been wrought by his or John’s own power or holiness, but by God, and his son Jesus, and through faith in his name

12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

Withal reprehending them for crucifying Jesus

13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Which because they did it through ignorance, and that thereby were fulfilled God’s determinate counsel, and the Scriptures

17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

He exhorts them by repentance and faith to seek remission of their sins, and salvation in the same Jesus

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

1) Salvation – Diligently seek Jesus Christ the Son of God:

“Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)

Do you want to be born again? I want you to pray this sinners prayer out loud, diligently seeking Jesus Christ as your Saviour.  Please note this prayer will not save you, it’s what in your heart!  Are you truly seeking Jesus Christ the Son of God? Are you truly seeking to be born again? Are you truly seeking to change your ways?  Below is an example of a prayer, you can pray your own prayer if you want.

“Heavenly Father, I come before you in the name of Your Son, Jesus Christ. I know that Jesus Christ is the only Way, the Truth, and the Life; and is the only Mediator between You and man. Heavenly Father, I believe that Your only begotten Son Jesus Christ paid the price for mankind through His sacrifice on the cross, He was buried, and rose again 3 days later.  I acknowledge to You Lord Jesus Christ that I am a sinner. You shed Your precious Blood on the cross for me, Your blood washes away my sin, covers me and cleanses me.

I am truly sorry for the sinful, shameful life I have lived.   I want to repent Lord Jesus, I want to turn away from my sins. Please forgive me of all my sins Lord Jesus, I earnestly repent.  Forgive me of my sins as I forgive anyone who has ever sinned against me, I hold no grudges anymore.

You are my Saviour Lord Jesus, only you. I truly desire to serve You, Lord Jesus.  I pray that You would help me to hear Your still small voice.  Heavenly Father, I want to be baptised by the Holy Spirit, I want the Holy Spirit to come and abide in me, I desire to be led by Your Holy Spirit so I can faithfully follow You and obey all of Your commandments.  I want the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my life when I sin.

I want to thank you for the forgiveness of ALL my sins, and the glorious gift of salvation and everlasting life You have given me.  At this very moment I acknowledge that Jesus Christ the Son of God is my Savior and according to His Word, right now I am born again, in Your mighty precious Name.

Thank You Lord Jesus, for coming into my life and thank You for saving me. Amen”

2) Continue the prayer if you need deliverance from demonic affliction – please pray the following:

Say the following with conviction and absolute FAITH that Jesus Christ IS WHO HE SAYS HE IS:

“Heavenly Father, dear Lord Jesus Christ, I am demonically afflicted, I ask that you please remove all demonic affliction and or possession from me. I pray this in your MIGHTY name! Thank you Lord Jesus!

If you are fasting:

Stop fasting, you are making your mind weaker and weaker that you can’t spiritually fight off a demonic attack

3) Getting rid of all ungodly things in your home.

You need to throw away ALL the non Christian books you have (excluding your bible, get a KJV bible and if necessary a bible in your language – you can use the KJV bible to compare verses to make sure the translation is correct.) Throw away so called Christian books as well – if you are certain the book is genuinely Christian please keep it.  Throw away all CD’s and DVD’s that are not Christian, you can keep anything that you are certain is genuinely Christian, but if you are not 100% sure please just get rid of it.  Break those music CD’s that you have – yes even the so called ‘Christian’ ones, you have no idea if they are really Christian, probably not – Hillsong is not Christian. Any so called anointed objects, throw them away.  Any so called Christian paintings or occult pictures/paintings, tear them up and throw them away. Anything on your pc/laptop that is not biblical delete it.  Any pictures of ‘Jesus’ – this is not Jesus (no one know what He looks like), tear it up and throw it away.

You will remove everything ungodly from your house, even that African mask you have on the wall, throw it away, any statues – throw it away. Any gifts you received that have any kind of spiritual connotation, throw it away.  Anything to do with Angels – throw it away. Prayer cards – throw it away. If you are in the occult / New Age / Wicca etc., throw away everything, books, jewelry, statues, ritual items, including all your black clothes.  Any Halloween items in your house, throw them away.  If you are a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim etc., please throw away anything that connects you to these religions, including; religious texts, books, statues, paintings, jewelry and religious clothes etc.

4) If you have anything in your life that you are holding onto that is ungodly.

  • Ask Jesus Christ to show you anything that ungodly in your life.
  • You will recognize the sin(s) through the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
  • Ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness of these sins, and change your ways through prayer by asking Jesus Christ to help you overcome your sins, and sin no more. (Keeping Ecclesiastes 7:20 in mind).

For instance, did you go to a church where someone laid hands on you.  If you have had ‘FIRE’ called down on you or the church congregation you were sitting in. (See article on Demonic FIRE spirit in church” If you speak in so called ‘heavenly’ tongues.  A false baptism of the holy spirit in water. Think of things in your life from the very personal right down to the fact that you smoke (if you smoke) ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. If you have a drinking problem – most people deny they have a problem, if you can’t go without it you have a problem, if you like getting drunk at parties ask forgiveness for this and ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. Drug addiction, ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. If you attended 1 yoga class or more, if you meditated or soaked, centered yourself, got hooked into watching ASMR videos on Youtube, etc,.  Belief in Reincarnation, Evolution, Feminism or the belief in Karma etc.

Christian books that you bought or were given to you about peoples so called visits to Heaven and Hell and other strange doctrines or anything anointed be that a prayer cloth, oil or painting etc.  If you experienced any electricity or feelings of heat come over your body, if you convulsed, or where ‘Slain in the Spirit’, went through a fire tunnel, etc,. If you had hands laid on you, or if people stood around you with their hands held over you and you prayed to receive ‘healing’ or ‘deliverance’, please ask for forgiveness.  If you were supposedly ‘healed’ by a preacher who laid hands on you etc. Please read article: Can Satan Heal?  If someone ‘prophesied’ over you in any way, told you your prophetic fortune of what God has in store for you, please ask forgives for this.

If you struggle with certain things in your life that you feel you just don’t want to let go of, or you feel like something is preventing you or holding you back, realise that this is Satan at work who does not want you to ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness so that you can be delivered of any stubborn demonic entities that are attached to you.  As for forgiveness for following false teaching like TB Joshua for instance right down to the so called innocent preachers like John MacArthur. The Holy Spirit will convict you of who you followed and need to repent of.  Mention if you practiced breathing exercises, or ‘silence’ where you cleared you mind. Ask for forgiveness if you have committed adultery.  Had an abortion.  If you watch or are addicted to Pornography.  Homosexuality. If you are abusive in any way to your spouse and or children, ask for forgiveness and ask Jesus Christ to be delivered from this sin in Jesus Christ’s Name.

Mention if you were visited by an angel or something posing as Jesus Christ. Mention if you hear God ‘audibly’, as in a loud voice. Mention if you practiced entering into the ‘presence of God’, or wanted to ‘hear God’s voice’. Mention if you have dreams and or visions or had your dreams interpreted or if you’ve ever been to see a Spiritualist, i.e., Tarot reader or a Medium of any kind (including Pet Mediums who speak to your dead / or run away pets) etc. Mention if you had an awakening or illumination while meditating etc. If you ever partook in a Freemasonry ritual or any other secret society ritual.  Fire walking. Practiced Martial Arts. Had Hypnosis, Reiki or been for Acupuncture to manipulate the flow of energy (Chakras) within your body etc., please ask forgives for this.  Are you experiencing sleep paralysis which is demonic? Rebuke Satan in Jesus Mighty Name to leave you immediately

Important:  There is no such thing as generational curses.

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Deu 24:16).

But please ask for forgiveness and ask Jesus Christ to remove any demonic affliction in your life where you willfully or were forced to partake in anything demonic with family members or friends, for example; a Tarot card reading, or played with a home made Ouija board or Glassy Glassy (there are many other games kids play) especially in school or parties. Even that Magic 8 Ball ‘toy’ is far from being just a toy.  Children watching evil cartoons on TV is a brilliant way for Satan to gain entry into a child’s life.  It happened many years ago to someone I know personally who was tormented by demons during the day on a daily basis just through watching, accepting and enjoying Thundercats, Ninja Turtles and some other evil cartoons.

If you can see demonic spirits, ‘ghosts’ or have seen people that have passed away etc., please ask forgiveness for this, as this is clairvoyance and you need to be delivered from this.  Also mention music, including so called ‘Christian’ music that you are addicted to listening too. If you are addicted to heavy metal music, including Christian heavy metal (There is no such thing as Christian heavy metal, it’s a lie from the pit of hell), rock music or even pop music for that matter please ask forgiveness for this, you need deliverance from this, music and lyrics plays a big role in the life of so many who think it’s not harming them spiritually, but it is. See here: Music: Compromising God’s Standards to Accommodate Youth.

There are so many things I have not mentioned because there are just too many evil things in this world to list. Ask Jesus Christ to remind you of all things in your life, let the Holy Spirit convict you of your sin and repent of it.

The crux of deliverance is this:  You are asking Jesus to forgive you not only of these things you have done, but you are telling Jesus the reason why you did these things, and you want to be forgiven for this!  You let Jesus know that you sinned because you wanted to choose evil instead of Him, but now you are making a FINAL STAND and you are choosing JESUS CHRIST over Satan and you are CHANGING YOUR WAYS – YOU WILL NEVER TURN YOUR BACK on Jesus Christ again.

Ask Jesus Christ to remove ALL demons from you and break ALL chains of demonic affliction/possession over your life. Ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. Rebuke Satan in Jesus Christs’ MIGHTY NAME to leave you immediately!

To break free from very strong demonic affliction is not easy and can take time if you are not spiritually strong enough.  There were times were the Disciples struggled to cast demons out of people, and had to pray long and hard and needed to fast.

Mar 9:28-29 “And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.”

5) You might have the demon that is in you or attached to you manifest in your home:

If this happens, I know it will be difficult but do not fear, it’s only there to cause fear.  Do not communicate with it, do not request it’s name, you use the Word of God only to force it to leave, it has NO choice, Jesus Christ’s Word is FINAL,  Jesus Christ has CONQUERED Satan at the cross, you already have the VICTORY through Jesus Christ the Son of God:

You can read the following verses out aloud. This is not vein repetition, you can read all these verses or choose your own from the list below – you don’t have to mention the verses at the end as Satan knows the bible well:

You say out loud in TOTAL FAITH:  “Jesus Christ the Son of God says;

“Ye shall not fear them: for the LORD your God he shall fight for you” (Deu 3:22)

“The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence, I will call on the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies” (2 Sam 22:3-4)

“No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.” (Isa 54:17)

“So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.” (Isa 59:19)

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”  (Matt 4:10)

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt 25:41)

“Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” (Luke 10:19)

“But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:57)

“Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.” (2 Cor 2:14)

“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.” (2 Cor 10:3-5)

I will be strong in the Lord, I will “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph 6:11-12)

“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” (Cor 2:15)

“And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” (2 Tim 4:18)

“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you” (Js 4:7)

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world”  (1 John 4:4)

“For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 John 5:4-5)

Rebuke Satan in Jesus Christ’s name and tell him to leave your home IMMEDIATELY. 

Say “Jesus Christ commands you to leave this house immediately, this home belongs to Jesus Christ the Son of God. LEAVE!”

If need be repeat all the verses below again, again this is not vein repetition, if you want choose your own bible verses please by all means do so. Keep repeating God’s Word until the demonic entity has fled.

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”  (Matt 4:10)

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt 25:41)

“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” (Cor 2:15)

“But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:57)

Say out loud: “[I] Submit [myself] yourselves therefore to God. [I will] Resist the devil, and he will flee from [me] you” (Js 4:7)”

Say “Jesus Christ commands you to leave this house immediately, this home belongs to Jesus Christ the Son of God. LEAVE!”

Say this with confidence, as Jesus Christ has already won the battle and because you are now a born again child of God, that battle has been won for you and you have the authority to use Jesus Christ’s name because you are now a child of God. Keep saying this until all demonic manifestations have left your home. You will get resistance, and they might try stop you by confusing your mind that you can’t think properly, or tell you that you are not strong enough.  It’s not you who is strong, it’s Jesus Christ the Son of God who is the One who defeated Satan on the cross who is strong.  Just keep using God’s Word against them so that they will leave your home and your life, in Jesus Christ’s name.  Important to note:  When Jesus was in the wilderness being tested by Satan (Matthew 4:1-11) He did not have a conversation with Satan when Satan tested Him, He quoted the Word of God only against Satan and he fled.

Thank Jesus Christ from the bottom of your heart and worship Him by thanking Him for what He has done for you. Start reading your bible (not other books) and if you are going to a charismatic church please stop going, and stop following all false doctrine.  How do you know if what you are following or believing in is false?  You test it against the Word of God, if it does not tie up 100% to what the bible says, then it is false.  You stop immediately, ask Jesus for forgiveness and move on to the Truth.  Please read:  Testing the Spirits – True Spiritual Discernment

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” (1 Peter 5:8)

6) How do we stop Satan from attacking us after we are born again?

We put on the armour of God with God’s help: You gird your waist with truth, put on breastplate of righteousness, shod your feet with preparation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, put on the shield of faith which quenches attacks from Satan, put on the helmet of salvation by believing that Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose again, and finally the sword of the spirit which is the Word of God.  You apply these pieces of armour daily, you arm yourself by obeying God’s commandments, repenting to Jesus Christ when you sin and ask Jesus Christ to help you to not sin again, and in doing so guard yourself against any attack from Satan.  See bible scripture below:

Ephesians 6:10-18 

The Whole Armor of God

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  

14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,

15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints-

If you need more help regarding deliverance or what it is that caused Satan to attack you, please comment below and we will try to help you.

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Daisy
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Daisy

You mentioned seeing people who have died. A Christian friends if mine saw a vision of her father in her home recently. He had dabbled in the occult, much to her disappointment. She has also seen visions of other people at times in her house. To my knowledge, she hasn’t participated in occult activity. Could her late father’s activity (tarot cards, potions, etc.) have “opened a door,” so to speak, that is affecting her?

TL_92
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TL_92

I’m more confused about faith in Jesus and Christianity Religion now than ever.

My family in Louisiana has always acted like they were close to God and better than us in Florida. Also they have very strict rules and home school there children. Very Active in there Church. 3 days a week. My aunt is a counselor. Uncle a Deacon. Cousin’s are praise and worship and also help with Bible studies. I spent a whole week hanging out with my cousin and got very close to her almost too close. Really connected and talked about anything and everything. We actually declared we’re best friends. I actually was excited because towards the end of the week I went to church with them(my old church) and was very excited to live my life with Jesus. Even though I’ve always lived my life for him. I just quite going to church.

Ok big problem they left and when my cousin would call on the phone she started talking about this Guy and son Andrew and John Eastman. Music Guitar group. The dad Andrew does prophetic PRAYER messages. You kneal before him and he gives a message that relates to a issue in your life everytime to anyone no matter who you are. Also sounds very biblical. Very encouraging. But my family takes Jesus and God serious so you can image how powerful these messages are. But he does it on command one person after the other.

Next thing she tells me my aunt and other cousin speak in tongues. At this point I can barely breath I’m freaked out because I’ve never heard of this stuff in my life.

Then my cousin said some guy came and prayed for him and he was annointed/slain in the holy Spirit when he was 10 years old and fell backwards on the ground crying and convulsing for a long time. My stomach was about to vomit when he told me this. How my aunt could allow her child to experience something like that. She thought she was surrendering them to God. What the heck is going on?

They are sucked into this weird church. I mean trapped. My cousin’s are in love with the Pastor and I’ve tried telling her to escape she’s apart of some weird crap and I don’t want nothing to do with her Religious church or her ways. I’m actually considering becoming Atheist if this is how church is suppose to be and is how God treats his followers.

Please help me out Foreal my family’s future is at stake!!!!

SheepDog
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SheepDog

I just have to say that although there is a lot of truth to this, you do need to clean your house of anything of the occult, and any articles that you are clinging to spiritually, and the secular music and so on, yes, totally.

Now in the spiritual realm there is the side from God and the side from satan. Both have supernatural power. The demonic is of the devil, and the Holy Spirit is of God. The Bible clearly explains which are of God. Just because there is an occult counterfeit, does not mean God’s power in our lives is not real anymore. Everything the Bible talks about for the early church IS for us today. It is the devil who wants to deceive the church into thinking otherwise so their power is limited. We DO get the baptism of the Holy Spirit and assorted gifts (not all get tongues), we do have power to cast out demons, and so on if we are walking uprightly in Christ. Just because some churches get crazy and even into the occult, does not nullify the real which is of God. I know this by personal experience that lines up with the Word of God. Those who deny the working of the Holy Spirit today are in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit so be careful before you say all of that is ‘from the devil,’ because the real is from God. Even the pharisees railed against Jesus when He exorcised demons, claiming He did it by Beelzebub when it was by the Holy Spirit; the power of God and not the devil. The Bible teaches that the gifts go on until we are in His kingdom and see Him ‘face to face’ in 1 Cor. 13. Wolves like John MacArthur will twist this around for the reasons I just said.

Johan
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Johan

I am a member of a Pentecostal church and there is regular speaking in tongues during our Sunday morning services, but this is always in an orderly fashion. There is almost always an interpreter of what was said.
The pastor is strict and everything always happens in an orderly fashion. Teaching is always from God’s word and sin is openly condemned from God’s Word as the basis.
I know that this ministry is of the opinion that the teachings of the Pentecostal denomination is false – I do agree that the teachings and practices of most Pentecostal/Charismatic churches are questionable but I always test what is taught at my Church based on God’s Word and have never had any concerns.

Deborah (discerning the world)
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Dear John

Tell me, why do you need to speak in so called heavenly tongues (gibberish) when you have the Word of God in your pastor’s hands so that he can preach the FULL GOSPEL to you in English?

Being orderly when speaking tongues does not maketh tongues speaking biblical. Do you realise that the interpreter can also be of Satan?

What could possibly be said in a heavenly tongue that is not already in the Word of God? New Revelation I ask?

Earthly tongues is for preaching the gospel to people (unbelievers – 1 Co 14:22) who do not understand your mother tongue – God gives you the gift to speak in that persons language so they may hear the gospel and be SAVED.

You said “I always test what is taught at my Church based on God’s Word and have never had any concerns.”

If you never have any concerns then I would be concerned if I was you. It appears you are deceived already on the tongues speaking issue.

Tom (Discerning the World)
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Johan, I just love your “There is ALMOST ALWAYS and interpreter of what was said.” God is never satisfied with an almost always. “Almost always” is usually the culprit that misleads people into error, deception and lies, and guess what? God hates lies because it comes from the father of all lies. (John 8:44). Perhaps you could tell us in what languages the members of your church speak. You should at least know that, not so? Are they existent and well-known languages or are they heavenly languages? How many languages are there in heaven? I’m sure you have read this before.

Wherefore tongues (plural) are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. (1 Co 14:22)

It seems that you have a congregation filled with unbelievers. You’d better start preaching the unadulterated word of God so that they may be saved.

Johan
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Brendan Philbrick
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Brendan Philbrick

Deborah, I have a question.
When you say “Christian books” does that also include a book like The Case for Christ? Which follows a journalist as he investigated The Word and things about God’s Word and became a follower of Yeshua? A book that actually strengthens the believer? I am legitimately curious, I’m just looking for answers.
BTW, I just read the article The Holy Spirit Vs. The Unholy Spirit. That article have changed my life.
BTW, I think I accidentally put my email in wrong, there’s a capital “U” at the start.

Brendan Philbrick
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Brendan Philbrick

Thank you, that clears things up a bit.
What about other books? Is it a sin to read any book that isn’t The Bible?
I have a bookshelf and it has books like 1984, Atlas Shrugged, The Book Thief, and The Dairy of A Young Girl.
I don’t let my reading of other books take time over my reading of God’s Word (which I have several ways of reading/listening to), so is it a sin? unsure

Brendan Philbrick
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Brendan Philbrick

Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

Satan is constantly seeking to destroy you. When you are saved the attack increases.

Boy do I understand that one. I thank you so much for your kindness and willingness to answer my questions. up

Ron Stachewicz
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Ron Stachewicz

Just when I thought I “got delivered” ! Been through so much.. The circus of satanic attacks continued in my life for over two years.. Confessed/repent till my ears bled!.. Sought a contrite heart/godly sorrow..ect.. The Flesh wars against that… Power is dangerous without humility. Tired of all of it..Weary is the word the bible uses. Been to Churches that don’t even believe were in a war! Pastors who have absolutely no experience and operate in unbelief / no Authority: Though their Good bible teaching rocks..Go figure! It is hard to find knowledgeable, experienced persons who KNOW what they are doing when it comes to deliverance. One thing I have to stress is once you have rid of yourself the pestilent spirit, seven will seek to come back.. Be ready ! Have your Armour on. KNOW Who you are in Christ. The “Room” the (Bad Spirit) was (same place where the sin resided/stronghold)/ best be Re-filled with Gods Spirit, generally Love,joy,peace,or any other fruit of the Holy Spirit. Otherwise they just come back to the ‘House they had made home of previously and set up shop and that state of that person will be even worse off.. Been There, experienced that! Beware the enemy is real.. I thank God ,Jesus Christ has put them all under his feet. The kingdom of darkness is defeated.
Having had all these experiences ..I look forward to leading others to freedom when God makes that appointment.. The beginning of this thread was spot on concerning what to do except for Being sure the “room” vacated is re-filled with the Holy Spirit. Reflect on why Paul talks about Put offs and Put ons’.. Before you reply.

Amy Blossom
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Amy Blossom

Hi hope this is not a stupid question unsure why get rid of all black clothing? think

read Check/ are hand-me-downs clothing an issue in this context? Appreciate your reply. Amy.

thank

Amy Blossom
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Amy Blossom

yahoo thanks for clarity on black and hand me down clothing. I’m born again and understand the explanation and if one has issues as you discrible. Thank you Debs Perfect/ thank

Amy Blossom
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Amy Blossom

Debs Perfect/

Debbie
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Debbie

Hi
I am so confused, I don’t know what is real anymore, speaking in tongues, deliverance, etc because of charismatic church going. After a few years without going to church I did go today and the Pastor wanted to baptize the church after the holidays with fire? Now I feel to run again away from any church? Please help!

Rebecca
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Rebecca

Not sure where to put this, do you have a view on people who experience psychosis? Thanks.

Rebecca
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Rebecca

Deborah, thank you very much for your explanation which I found very helpful.

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