Hi Ngau. We do not know precisely what the mark of the beast will be. Some say the mark 666 is a presentation of what Satan has been trying to achieve all along, and that is to be like God and receive the worship which is due to God alone. We read of this in Isaiah 14:12-15. The number seven represents fullness, perfection, completeness and is said to be God’s number. 6 is man’s number and Satan will try to be like God by using the incomplete repetition off 666 to copy the trinity. As such, it will be Satan (god the false father), the false prophet (false holy spirit) and the Antichrist (false Christ). 666 can never reach the number 7. It will always remain subservient to God Almighty.

Please read article on unforgivable sin here: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/04/21/unforgivable-sin/

I believe the mark of the beast is a tattoo of sorts, that contains a microchip… I say it’s a tattoo because it can be on your right hand or your forehead. It will be a visible mark and it will be a pledge of allegiance to the man of lawlessness – it has everything to do with worship. Those who pledge their allegiance to the antichrist have no intention of ever repenting.

Deborah, I don’t spend much time on Facebook so haven’t seen the group you mentioned. I came across the NTEB site when following some news headlines posted elsewhere.

I would like to ask whether the mark of the beast might possibly be some sort of voluntary spiritual worship of the beast, or is it just additional deception? (See John 4:24.)

I cannot think of any other reason so serious, that would cause God to pronounce what I understand to be an eternal sentence of punishment in Rev 14. :confused:

John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

“Rev 14: 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”

NowtheEndBegins website is actually a Calvinist website. I mention this site on our FB group.
As Tom said, for Judus to be the antichrist that would mean he can be resurrected. But the Bible is clear that once you die you cannot come back. The same goes for those you say that Nero is the antichrist – once again Nero is in hell and cannot return, ever, either.

Hi Fledgling Discerner. The site of which you sent us the link are full of doctrinal discrepancies which I will not go into now. Our main topic is Judas. Will he be the Antichrist? Well, think of it this way. In Acts we read the following, “And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” (Acts 1:24-25). It simply means that he went to a place suitable for his treacherous deeds. It cannot be heaven, so it must be hell, the same place the rich man went to after his death (Luke 16:19-31). Jesus Himself said of Judas, “The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.” (Matthew 26:24). I don’t think Jesus would have said this of Judas if He knew he would go to heaven.

For Judas to be the Antichrist he will have to be resurrected from hell back to earth. There is not a single place in Scripture where we see unbelievers coming back from the dead (hell). Only some believers were resurrected for a certain time and then died again. At any rate, having seen that Judas is in the same place where the rich man is, the words must apply to Judas as well, “And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.” (Luke 16:26). They cannot come back to earth.

What do you think of the following site’s article which concludes that Judas is the antichrist?
https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/real-reason-judas-hung-himself-antichrist/

My understanding has been that Judas hanged himself from remorse. :wonder:

In reply to Ann

“Antichrist” means “in the place of” and “against.” So, what this means is that the Antichrist will parade as the genuine Christ of the world in order to go against Him. Satan is an imitator. He imitates everything God has accomplished through his Son. Satan wants to turn all God’s work upside down and to do that his false Christ must appear like Christ and also speak like a lamb. Jesus became a man (not a country) and so the Antichrist must also appear as a man who supposedly rose from the dead (deadly wound). The false prophet (probably a future pope in the Roman Catholic Church) will do false miracles and force everyone to worship the Antichrist, a man. If the Antichrist was a country (like Russia) then she would have been the one the false prophet forces everyone to worship. That’s ridiculous. Moreover, the Bible says:

And the beast Antichrist) was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. (Rev 19:20)

Here again, if Russia was the beast, then the entire Russian population would have had to be cast into the lake of fire. Are there no saved individuals in Russia? Either you make the whole of Russia the beast or you don’t.

Here are a few names the Bible gives to Antichrist:

The bloody and deceitful man (not country or empire) (Psalm 5:6)
The mighty man (not a country or an empire) (Psalm 52:1)
The violent man (not country or empire) (Psalm 140:1)
The man of sin (not country or empire) (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

In Revelation 13 the first beast rises up out of the sea, and the second rises up out of the earth. The first beast is not a man, the second beast is.

The first beast is the worldwide empire that will be controlled by the second beast…the false prophet who is the Antichrist. Look at the way scripture describes him: two horns like a lamb but the speech of a dragon. The Antichrist will appear as a savior to the world a false Christ, thus the appearance of a lamb but his speech will betray his true origins. The false prophet causes us to worship the first beast because it would rather belie his seeming humility and modesty to ask us to worship himself.

As to empires with deadly wounds, consider communism, and more specifically communist Russia. How many thought the soviet union was dead? And yet we see it rising again, slowly now but surely and it will speed up as it goes. I forget which Russian writer said that the western world thought of communism as a roaring lion but to Russians it was a dead dog. Turn your atlas or globe so that the Koreas are at the bottom, you’ll see the feet of a bear in two Russian peninsulas.

With America becoming less trusted and less mighty, and China in alliance with the first beast, who will be like him, and who will be able to make war with him?

God bless you.