Rebecca Brown – Don’t Bind Yourself in her Books

Rebecca Brown came to set the captives free

Rebecca Brown’s false teaching:  WARNING!

I contacted Rebecca Brown’s publishing company a few times asking for permission to quote from their book “He Came To Set The Captives Free”, but I received no reply. That is fine, I won’t quote I will never the less write about what she believes and give page numbers so that people can refer back to her book.

1) Shield of protection, shield of faith, and pleading the blood of Jesus:

Throughout the book Rebecca Brown tells you that you need to pray for protection by shielding yourself with a shield of protection (pg. 4). There is no such thing.   She also claims the shield of faith over other people (pg. 19).  This is not possible.  You see, part of the armour of God is the shield of faith.  You are to put on the whole armour of God, you don’t need to pray for individual pieces of armour to protect you and you can’t pray the armour of God over other people.  Putting on the armour of God is something you do personally with God’s help:  gird your waist with truth, put on breastplate of righteousness, shod your feet with preparation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, put on the shield of faith which quenches attacks from Satan, the helmet of salvation, by believing that Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose again, and finally the sword of the spirit which is the Word of God.  You apply these pieces of armour daily, you arm yourself by obeying God’s commandments and in doing so guard yourself against any attack from Satan.

  • Ephesians 6:10-18  The Whole Armor of God   10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints-

She also pleads the blood of Jesus over herself and others and inanimate objects (pg. 17)  Please article see here about Pleading the Blood of Jesus Is it Right or Wrong?

2) Reveal diagnoses: (pgs. 12, 19)

God gave Rebecca Brown ‘discernment’ in deciding which patients were demonically afflicted or just plain sick. She uses the following verses to back up her beliefs.

  • Luke 10:9 “And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.”
  • Mark 16:17  “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;”

These verses are speaking to the Apostles, and the disciples of Jesus who had power to perform miracles.  Jesus Christ gave the Apostles their power to do great things as a sign to confirm that He rose from the dead.  Believers in Jesus Christ who went out and preached the gospel of Jesus Christ could perform miracles as well.  It was the ‘sign of an apostle’ to do signs and wonders.

  • 2 Corinthians 12:12:  “Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.”

God chose certain people to witnessed Jesus ascend into heaven, among these were the Apostles had the power to heal the sick, cast out demons, tread on serpents and scorpions and speak in tongues, etc.

  • Acts 10:40-43  “40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

Only Jesus who is God was capable of doing miracles and any who believed in Him had the power to perform miracles, once the bible had been written the ‘sign of the apostle’ ceased.  Today we seek Jesus Christ by faith and faith alone because He wants us to believe in Him through faith alone not by seeing miracles.

  • John 20:29  “Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” and
  • 1 Peter 1:8  “Whom having not seen, you love; in whom, though now you see him not, yet believing, you rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:”

Anyone who says they have power to heal, raise the dead, etc., are denying Jesus Christ’s power and replacing it with man-made power, i.e, satanic power.

If we need a miracle we pray directly to Jesus Christ for our healing, deliverance etc.

3) God’s lack of power:

Rebecca Brown’s ‘Lord’ reveled to her that the only way he could get a message through to her one night, was because of the prayer of other people.  (pg. 23) Apparently her god is not strong enough to get a message through to someone himself and needs mankind’s help.’

4) Satanic sales:

Elaine states in He Came to Set the Captives free, when you drink blood in a satanic ritual you immediately become possessed (this I could understand to be true if you are an unbeliever and you welcome the demonic to take hold of you) however the book implies that when this happens it appears you lose your free will to choose.  (pg. 25)  This is unbiblical.  See below section 12) Unbinding someone where I go into this in more detail.

5) Demonic manifestations:  (pgs. 39, 40, 43)

Elaine says that a demon manifested itself to her in physical form.  This is not the movies Rebecca Brown, demons can not take on a human physical form of their own.  They can possess human yes, and they can appear to you in a spiritual demonic form, but what Elaine is saying is that a demon appeared in a physical form (human form) with glowing eyes and you could touch the demons body as if it were human flesh and blood.  This is not true at all.   On (pg. 43) a demon appears before Elaine in a cloud of sulfuric smoke? Seriously? Sulfuric, not any other kind of smoke?  On (pg. 43) she says that as she grew in mastering magic she got to the point where she could see and talk to demonic entities without them having to take on their physical form.  I would have thought that would be the other way around?  First you communicate with the ones you can’t see and as you become more skilled in your witchcraft they presented themselves to you in physical form?  Oh what-everrrr, it is such a load of nonsense.

6) Martial arts training:  

Elaine says she was trained in Karate, Judo and Kung Fu.  The reason was to become a guard or assassin (pg. 42, 43).  Now I need to ask this question, why are they training in martial arts when they supposedly are highly trained in magical arts? And so evil and dangerous. Surely spells are far more efficient than an assassin with a ninja star? Hmm, makes you think does it not.

7) Spirit Bodies: chapter 14

In the book He came to set the captives free Rebecca Brown gives instructions telling us that we must put on the whole armour of God.  Now this is biblical, what makes theirs unbilbical is that they want you to literally clothe your ‘spirit body’ which according to Rebecca Brown is the same as your physical body.  She quotes:

  • 1 Corinthians 15:44 “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. “

But what does this verse really mean?  Here Paul is speaking about the resurrected body, not some strange spirit body that we are supposed to have. If you quote the whole of 1 Corinthians 15:44 in context you get the real answer.

  • I Corinthians 15:42-44  “42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Rebecca Brown in her unscriptural beliefs (Watchman Nee propagates this occult spirit body idea as well) goes on to say that this spirit body that we have has a mind and will of it’s own. She uses 1 Corinthians 1:44 to state that our spirits have a form/shape corresponding to our physical body.  She says that not many people know this, only satanists know.  One would think that if this was biblical it would be in the bible and most people would know about it.

Rebecca Brown tried to validate this teaching even more by quoting  2 Corinthians 12:2-4 and Revelation 4: 1-2 to show that when our spirit body is separated from you physical body, your spirit body can experience things that your physical body can’t feel.

  •  2 Corinthians 12:2-4  “2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.”
  • Revelation 4: 1-2  “1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.”

If you read the scriptures Rebecca Brown quoted carefully, you will notice that she is using the scripture about Paul when he was raptured into heaven.  The verses state that while Paul’s soul or spirit may have or may not have left his body (read the above verse) Paul was clearly aware of what happened to him and what he saw.  Rebecca Brown says otherwise, she says your spirit body can act independently without the person even knowing.  What is even more shocking is that the spirit body can be used by Satan without the persons knowledge (pg. 177).  Once again Rebecca Brown alludes to the fact that we don’t have free-will.

When Paul stated the following:

  • 1 Corinthians 5:1-4  ” 1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,”

Paul was using a metaphor.  It’s not to be taken literally.  Have you never heard of people saying, “I am there with you in the spirit”, or “I won’t be there in body but I will be there in spirit”.  Paul was not astral projecting himself to the Corinthian church while on the other side of the world where his body stood.   This whole idea of a spirit body is demonic and totally unbibical.

In the book He came to set the captives free, Elaine says she received this new revelation about ‘the spirit body’ from an angel that visited her.  Elaine spent 2 hours conversing with this angel. (pg. 126)  Because we now know that the spirit body is not biblical and of the devil is it safe to say that the angel that visited Elaine was nothing but an demonic Angel of Light

  • 2 Corinthians 11:14  “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

8) Standing in the Gap

Rebecca Brown states that one can ‘stand in the gap’ for other people, entire hospitals and cities for that matter (pg. 10).  She says you can ‘stand in the gap’ with your spirit body and get yourself spiritually beaten to a pulp while we take the blows intended for others.  It’s like you are being a ‘spiritual’ body guard for someone and the demons have to get past you first before they can get to the other person.  And to top things off you wont be able to make it to church because you will just be too sick to show up (pg. 178, 179).

But do note that you will rarely even notice that you are ‘standing in the gap’ according to Rebecca Brown because God has control over our spirit bodies (pg. 180).  In the spirit realm your spirit body will fight, like, imagine you are inside a computer game, you vs the monsters, and they will beat you up or throw stones at you as you battle on the ‘spiritual war fields’ of never never land on behalf of other people (pg. 187).  She says that this is what it means to bear another’s burdens.  Really?  What a load of nonsense.  What this sounds like to me is Rebecca Brown is trying to take on the job that Jesus Christ did for us on the cross.  He was wounded, bruised and beaten for us and He took our burdens on the cross.

  • Isaiah 53:5  “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”

When Paul told the Galatians to bear one another’s burden he was speaking about restoring a Christian brother who was at fault or backslidden.  Not jump into the spiritual world and take a demonic beating.

  • Galatians 6:1-2   “1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.  2 Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.”
  • In Ezekiel 22:30-31 it says “30And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. 31Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD. “

This verse merely states that God was going to destroy the land because He could find no one to ‘stand in the grap’ for it, in other words, God could find no one to pray.  Rebecca Brown also tries to tell us that Moses stood in the gap for the Israel, but what Rebecca Brown fails to tell you is all Moses did was pray, this is what standing in the gap means, he did not head for a spiritual realm with his spirit body and get beaten up by demons on behalf of Israel.

Stand in the Gap
The CALL – Washington DC

Freemasons this includes Promise Keepers also represent ‘stand in the gap’ as a Masonic phallic tower / obelisk. Lou Engle a prominent Apostle within C. Peter Wagner’s New Apostolic reformation made an urgent call to the nation and gathered 400,000 of youth in Washington DC in 2000 around an Obelisk. He called his movement The Call.

He said, “God is looking for intercessors. That’s not just a fancy word to replace “prayer.” It is a high calling–some say the supreme vocation.There is a small piece of real estate that exists in between God and His rebellious creation, and it’s called “the gap.” You are called to stand there. You were made to stand there.”  [Emphasis added]

Biblically speaking no one can stand between between God and the sinner to prevent God’s anger and punishment to be metered out on the sinner. You can pray yes, but to think there is some realm of space where you can stand in the gap on behalf of someone is occult thinking. After the Israelite’s made a golden calf to worship it, Moses pleaded with God that if God would not forgive Israel’s sin he asked God to blot out his name fro the book of life, God replied and said no, he would not do that, he would remove the sinners name from the book instead.

  • Exodus 32:31-33   “3 1And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. 32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin–; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written” 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

9) Angels and the covenant

An angel appears to Elaine;  this angel was rather vicious in that it came to kill Elaine.  The reason it wanted to kill her was because Elaine did not enter into some kind of covenant with God to protect her from future attacks from Satanists.  That’s a bit confusing is it not.  God offers you protection through a so called covenant, you refuse it, so God sends an Angel to kill you?  Makes perfect sense, not.  Elaine was apparently rebellious with God, that is why she did not want to enter this covenant.  She thought she could go it alone, fight off the Satanists with her own power. She didn’t need God’s help, oh no, never.  She was so sure of herself that in the book she states that she was ready to ‘punch’ the angel right out for coming to see her and try kill her.  Rebecca Brown interceded and asked God to give her the punishment meant for Elaine instead.  God apparently heard her prayer and His wrath was diverted to Rebecca Brown.  The angel  then left.

What is wrong with this account?  So much.  No where in the bible is there any scripture where God meters out His wrath on His children.  Secondly, no where does God take out His wrath on a child of God in place of someone else.  Thirdly no where in the bible does God ask you to make another covenant with him – When you become born again you are automatically covered by the New Covenant, washed by the Blood of Jesus.   Fourth, no where in the bible does God destroy or send an angel to kill His children because they did not listen to him.  This angel, if it ever existed and not a figment of Elaine and Rebecca’s imagination is Satan in disguise.

10) So many covenants…

In the book Prepare for War, Rebecca Brown states that when we get saved Jesus makes a covenant with each and every one of us, a special plan for each and every one of us she says (pg. 127).  She also states that she has entered into many different covenants with God, one in particular she was indecisive about because it required serious personal sacrifice and hardship. She believed that if she entered into this covenant and she broke the covenant by not being able to keep it she would lose her salvation (pg. 32).  This is unbiblical, there is one covenant. We do not all have separate covenants and we don’t enter into more than one covenant.  Jesus Christ sacrifice on the cross ushered in a New Covenant that replaced the Old.  We have individual relationships with Jesus, through one covenant, the New Covenant.   We need to remember that whatever promises we make to God, if we fail to keep them we will be sinning.  Jesus warned us about taking oaths, pledges, promises, in fact God forbids it because He knows mankind is sinful and will not keep their promises.

  • Matthew 5:34-37  “34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”

If however Rebecca Brown ever did enter into a promise with God and she could not live up to the promise, Rebecca Brown would not lose her salvation, because God grace gives room for repentance of sin.  Rebecca Brown infers that breaking a covenant as an unpardonable sin.  Rebecca is placing a tremendous burden on the reader, that if they were to make a covenant with God and not keep it they would lose their salvation, this is unbiblical and of the devil.

11) No security

Rebecca Brown does not believe in Eternal Security, she says that God will give salvation to those who make it to the end and God makes no promises to give salvation and eternal life to those who don’t make it till the end. (pg. 191)  Rebecca’s theology here is very confusing, she views salvation and eternal life as two separate issues.  According to her, you get saved, then have to endure till the end to get eternal life.  This is not biblical.  Once you are truly born again you are sealed by the Holy Spirit and destined for Eternal life.  You can’t become unsaved because when the Holy Spirit enters you He stays permanently, making a deposit on your soul. Those who do not endure to the end are never truly saved to start off with.

See all articles on Eternal Security.


12) Unbinding someone

Rebecca Brown has a very interesting view point on how people get saved.  She says that you need to rebuke and bind the demonic forces causing spiritual blindness in someone and once you have bound these demons, they flee and on then is the person able to accept the gospel (pg. 150).

No where in the bible does anyone do this, no where in the bible are we told to do this.  In fact if it were just demons holding people back from being saved and not their free-will to choose the world (Satan) or Jesus Christ, or the individuals wicked heart (Jeremiah 17:9) that prevents him/her from believing in Jesus Christ because he/she loves sin more.

Based on Rebecca Browns way of preaching, I think the disciples would have had a tremendous amount of success converting people to Jesus Christ.  They could have just stood on a hill and bound all the demons in everyone present and once the demons stopped binding the peoples mind, everyone would listen to the gospel of Jesus Christ being preached and all would get saved.  No problem, or should we say big problem.  This doctrine of Rebecca Browns is very similar to Calvinism in that she implies that you do not have free will, everyone is bound by evil (as they are totally depraved and need to be  monergistically given the free gift of faith by God so that they can hear the gospel and then make the right decision and come to Jesus.  No, this is wrong, we have free will to choose good over evil, having said that demons can as such oppress / afflict someone to influence their thinking, but for demons to keep a person from hearing the gospel and accepting Jesus is unbiblical.

Demon possessed Christians

Rebecca Brown, Prepare for War (Chino, CA; Chick Publications, 1987) pg 27

Rebecca Brown states in Prepare for War that Christians can be demon possessed. (pg 29)  She sites the following verses to substantiate her claims:

  • 1 Corinthians 9: 27   “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. “
  • Ecclesiastes 10:8.  “He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.”

Neither of these verses remotely imply that a Christian can be demon possessed.  The first one is about Paul possibly failing and thinking that he should be cast away, the second is about Solomon not breaking the hedge where serpents lie.  This is a metaphor, warning that one should not enter carelessly where there is danger.  Rebecca Brown does not tell the truth when she quotes these two scriptures saying that they are about Christians being demon possessed.  She can’t find biblical poof for her point yet she continues to write about it and proclaim it to be true.

A Christian can’t be demon ‘possessed’ in the same sense that and unbeliever can be demon possessed.  A Christian can still be demonically oppressed / afflicted after they are born again and be in need of deliverance.

Rebecca believes also that Christians need regular deliverance in order to remove ongoing affliction in their lives.  When a Christian sins, this opens the door for affliction, all one has to do is ask Jesus Christ wholeheartedly for forgiveness and obey God’s commandments and not sin again.  When you do not listen to the Holy Spirit’s warning in your life and you go directly against God’s commandments you move away from Jesus Christ, your relationship becomes weaker.  Sin drives a wedge between you and Jesus Christ. Forgiveness brings you back to God through Jesus Christ His only Son.  Any demonic affliction a Christian lands up with because of habitual sin, is easily removed through prayer to Jesus Christ and asking Him to remove all demonic affliction from you.

13) The fruit

Rebecca Brown’s main area is the so called deliverance ministry of thousands upon thousands of Satanists. She pushes across the idea that because she delivers people from the clutches of Satan that her ministry must be producing good fruit, and therefor it is Godly.  However in the bible there is good fruit and there is bad fruit.  Bad fruit looks good on the outside but inside it’s rotten.  Jehovah’s witnesses, Mormons and Seventh Day Adventists also deliver people out of the occult, help people get off drugs and alcohol and then direct them directly into the false teaching of their churches.  The false teachers and their ministries are good at doing just that, they provide a service of so called good fruit and capture the individual into the teachings of their ministry and grab hold of their souls leading them strait in the direction of hell.

Rebecca might be very sincere in her endeavors but she is sincerely wrong.  And that has been proven through her false teaching in her book.  

  • 1 Corinthians 4:6  says that you are “not to go beyond what is written,”

Rebecca Brown does this over and over, and that is the mark of a false teacher.

  • 1 Corinthians 4:6  “And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.”

14) Rebecca Brown in South Africa

I heard some very horrifying news yesterday that Rebecca Brown is in South Africa. Right at this very moment at the Cornwall Hill College, Irene, Centurion.  She was invited by Yvonne Kruger from Prophetic End Time Ministry / 24-28 March 2010.

Rebecca Brown - SA Conference 2010

Facts about Rebecca Brown and Daniel Yoder:

Rebecca Brown
  1. Real name: Ruth Bailey.
  2. Lived in small town Indiana.
  3. She was a medical doctor who had her license revoked in 1984 due to serious malpractice.
  4. That means she uses the title of Dr. to mislead people only.
  5. The licensing board ruled that on numerous occasions she had “knowingly and intentionally misdiagnosed her patients”, blaming their illnesses on “demons, devils, and evil spirits.”  Also prescribing illegal dosages of drugs to her patients.
  6. She befriended a woman by the name of Elaine (Edna Elaine Moses) who claimed to be the bride of Satan.
  7. Elaine was so influential in her satanic bride status, that she alone used to negotiate all weapons sales to heads of state around the world.  
  8. Rebecca Brown helped Elaine escape from the cult called ‘The Brotherhood’.
  9. Rebecca Brown and Elaine slept in the same bed since the day the met – to cover up a lesbian relationship Rebecca Brown ‘adopted’ middle-aged Elaine so as to take on Rebecca’s surname.
  10. Elaine admitted by her own mouth that she is a murderess before and after the fact. She admits to ordering twenty murders, and admits to ordering the murder of a man but her plans were foiled when the police found him unconscious at a Satanic meeting.  There was never police investigation.
  11. She and Elaine delivered over 1000 hard-core satanists from satanism in the short time of 2 years – in her small town, only.
  12. Rebecca Brown said that in entereting the spirit world; “I saw Jesus get up from His throne and He came down to minister to demons who were being tormented by angels because He felt sorry for them.”  Does that mean that Jesus Christ’s death on the cross was for fallen angel as well? Perish the thought.
  13. She made a covenant with God that included the condition that she would eventually lay her life down for God in that small town in Indiana.  That was in the 1980’s.  
  14. She then met Daniel Michael Yoder from Phoenix, Arizona.  They were married on the 10th December 1989.
  15. Rebecca Brown writes in her book Unbroken Curses that Daniel Yoder was born into “a very wealthy Jewish family of international bankers”.
  16. When he was 6 years old he was sent by his parents to a boarding school in Switzerland.  There he endured child abuse and satanic torture, by Cabalist Rabbi’s who once locked him in a tiny chamber and poured spiders over him.
  17. He remained at this school until the age of 19. 
  18. Rebecca Brown tells in her book that Daniel Yoder inherited the fortunes of the family business and,
  19. He was forced at the age of 30 to marry a woman by the name of Kai who later found ‘Jesus’.
  20. She was captured by Daniel’s family and forced to deny Christ otherwise they would kill her.
  21. Then they were both abducted, flown to Israel where Daniel Yoder was chained to a wall and forced to watch his beloved Kai tortured to death.
  22. Daniel Yoder miraculously escaped to the USA, hid in a mountain cabin and read Kai’s bible (he must have gone back to Switzerland to fetch it) for a year and found ‘Jesus’ too.
  23. Rebecca Brown then met Daniel Yoder, married on the December 10, 1989 and moved to Iowa.
  24. In Iowa, Daniel Yoder passed himself off as a Neurosurgeon.
  25. They later moved and Daniel Yoder associated himself with the Wells of Living Grace Church.
  26. Daniel Yoder had 2 other names by which he went by (with different social security numbers and dates of birth):
    1. William Joseph Stewart
    2. Tony Michael Griffin
  27. Daniel Yoder was arrested 29 July 1991, charged with:
    1. Falsifying motor vehicle registrations,
    2. Falsifying driver’s licenses, and
    3. Falsifying Social Security records – taking on the name of a deceased man for himself. 
  28. 2 months later he was indicted on two counts of perjury.
    1. He lied about time served in Minnesota and Missouri and
    2. He lied being admitted to receiving “psychological evaluations, counselling, or hospitalisations.”
  29. During court trials is was established that he had only completed 7 years of schooling.
  30. Daniel Yoder was fined by the court.  He complied.
  31. New evidence has arisen from a video (see below) by Rebecca Brown where she states that her husband Daniel Yoder was “a 1 star General in the United States Air-force for 30 years.”  This is not true.  See above for Daniel Yoder’s criminal history.
  1. Rebecca Brown and Daniel Yoder left Iowa where Brown resumed writing her demonic books.
  2. They both currently lead a Christian group called Harvest Warriors.
  3. Rebecca Brown has been widely recognised as a fraud, and her books a hoax.
  4. Rebecca Brown’s books are nothing but demonic horror stories fabricated by a twisted mind.


Another detail Rebecca fails to mention is allegations that she abused Elaine. Documents show that she indeed did abuse Elaine. On Oct. 17, 1983, officer Samuel E. Hanna of the Madison County [Indiana] Police received a phone call from a social worker at St. Vincent’s Hospital in Indianapolis. The reason for the call: A woman had been admitted into the hospital whose entire body was covered with lesions. She was incoherent, had received an overdose of drugs and was near death. The patient’s name was Edna Elaine Moses. A preliminary investigation found the prime suspect to be Dr. Ruth Bailey (Rebecca). (68) Officer Hanna, a born-again Christian, was the party responsible for spear heading the major investigation of Rebecca. Several months of investigative work followed which involved the Attorney General’s office, the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration, St. John’s Hospital, the Indiana Medical Licensing Board and others.

Based on the investigation, the Indiana Medical Licensing Board issued an “Emergency Suspension” of Rebecca’s license, which barred her from practicing medicine in Indiana for 90 days.” (69)

More investigation followed, additional affidavits were taken and a “Request For Admissions” by Rebecca was secured. Among other findings, the exploration revealed that Rebecca, in less than six months’ time had issued to four different pharmacies a total of more than 100 prescriptions for Demerol, which authorized purchase of 330 vials of the highly addictive, painkilling drugs. (70)

Following that discovery, the licensing board issued an order filed May 22, 1984, extending Rebecca’s suspension for 90 more days. The order further stated, “That Respondent [Rebecca] continues to represent a clear and immediate danger to the public health and safety if she is allowed to continue to practice medicine, and that the reasons enumerated for the prior order of suspension in this matter have not changed.” (emphasis added) The order further called for Rebecca to “submit to a complete physical and mental examination at the board’s expense.”

By this time, Rebecca had fled Lapel. A copy of the board’s order had to be forwarded to her by certified mail to a post office box in Niles, Mich., where she signed for it on May 29, 1984. The investigation continued and resulted in a hearing in September 1984. The Sept. 21, 1984, edition of the Indianapolis News reported that “She [Rebecca] did not attend the six-hour hearing of her case yesterday, and by law her failure to appear meant the state had proven her guilty by default.” The paper further reported that 19 witnesses gave testimony during the hearing, several of whom “declined to reveal their current addresses, saying they feared retaliation from Dr. Bailey. The physician carries a handgun and has threatened to harm people she claims are possessed, they said.”

The newspaper article went on to report that “Several witnesses said that they saw Dr. Bailey [Rebecca] inject herself, Mrs. Moses [Elaine] and Mrs. Moses’ teen-age daughter with Demerol and morphine. Great quantities of drugs were kept on hand, and the Bailey home was littered with used needles and syringes, witnesses said.” Further, a former live-in housekeeper for Dr. Bailey testified that “the home was ‘filthy’ when she and her daughter moved in. ‘I hauled out 18 bags of trash,’ she said. In the room where Dr. Bailey and Mrs. Moses shared a bed, there were overflowing ashtrays, plates of leftover food and animal feces, she testified. The house was full of demonology books.”  [Emphasis added] 

A letter by Pastor Charles C. Younts of the Calvary Baptist Missions:

Dear Mr. Daniels:

Having read your letter to Pastor Worley, I felt led of the Lord to respond to it, as least in part. I’m also sending copies of this letter to Rebecca Brown, Jack Chick, Pastor Worley and others I feel might be interested.

Some random comments and questions that do require thought and/or answers:

1. In order to avoid confusion, I will refer to the alleged former witch as Edna. She has gone by Edna Moses, Edna Bailey, Edna Gnost, Elaine Moses…why all of the aliases, I do not know. It could not be from supposedly hiding from former associates in the craft because she is exceptionally easy to track and find, no matter where she is. I refer to Ruth Bailey (alias Rebecca Brown) as just Ruth.

2. Why does Ruth keep the title of Doctor when she was barred from medicine in Indiana? (for prescription boosting) She has not applied in any state to be reinstated. It is a fake title and misleading, and it has been only used by her to establish credibility.

3. To avoid the appearance of evil, why did Edna assume Ruth’s last name? The explanation by Ruth was that she was going to adopt Edna. This is so preposterous and ludicrous…that anyone would make such a comment. Middle age adopts middle age? Why do they sleep in the same bed and have done so almost since they first met? In most of the places they live, there is adequate bedroom space for separate bedrooms or at least separate beds.

Homosexual marriages are not uncommon and it is not uncommon for homosexual lovers to assume the last name of their partner. Add this to sleeping together and the appearance of evil is given. I would say it’s an unhealthy practice for an individual in the ministry of Jesus Christ.

4. The very idea that because an individual ministers for Jesus Christ, he is “of Christ” is anti-Biblical. We know Satan’s messengers come on as “angels of light.” Don’t forget Judas ate with and ministered with all the others for years, and they were totally taken by them. He healed, cast out demons, pointed sinners to Jesus Christ, etc. Yet, we’re told he was of his father, the Devil. Just because someone has won souls to Jesus Christ, such as Marjoe Gortnor, they are not necessarily of Christ.

5. One can only be judged on what they say and do by a singular standard–the only one on earth to tell the truth from the lie is the Bible. The Holy Spirit who inspired it will never go against it. Many of the statements of the two women are so far removed from the Biblethat they must be looked at with great suspicion.

6. Why do neither of the women attend a fundamental church?

7. Having spoken with Edna personally, she told me, and I have it on tape, “I was crazy for believing the New Testament.”

8. Edna also admitted on the same tape that Ruth lost her license to practice medicine in Indiana for writing illegal prescriptions.

9. Ruth states on tape that the one thing that is absolutely necessary in the ministry to witches is to get them out of the spiritual world-where they can see things ordinary humans cannot. If so, why does she herself enter into this world frequently? Furthermore, what she “sees” is diametrically opposed to the Word of God. She made the following statement in the presence of witnesses:

“I saw Jesus get up from His throne and He came down to minister to demons (that’s blasphemous) who were being tormented by angels (since when?) because He felt sorry for them.”

Obviously, anyone making that statement does not know the Bible, is having delusions, or is trying to impress someone.

Just for the things I’ve stated at this point, alone, I would not believe anything these women have to say, but there’s much more—found in the tapes they put out, and that piece of garbage they call a book.

The two women made three sets of tapes before they put one of the sets on the market. The first set contradicts the second; and the second contradicts the third and the first; and the third set contradicts much of the first and second sets. I’ll not go deeply into it at this time. The market tape is full of the questionable, the impossible, and that which cannot be substantiated. Most pastors I know who have listened to the two tapes—men in the ministries for several years—can survive only one half hour before turning them off.

Most have labeled these women as bogus, still in the occult, trying to infiltrate a solid fundamental organization and ruin it or simply two adventuresome women trying to make a name for themselves. And still others think it’s done for notoriety or even possibly they’re mentally ill. Their credibility could be greatly added to if they would answer a multitude of questions. Instead, they give stupid reasons why they can’t and also state that God told them not to answer.

Let’s just start with the tapes. Edna labeled herself by her own mouth to be a murderess before and after the fact. She admits to ordering twenty murders, then admits to ordering the attempted murder of a man whose name must be known as he was admitted to the Indiana hospital when the police found him unconscious at a Satanic meeting. Ruth says she didn’t know what had happened to him because the police let go the only person who survived a ritualistic murder—-the worst case Ruth had seen in her time at the emergency room of a person being semi-butchered. I can tell you a cop or an attorney would have a field day with that. Murder, by the way, has no statute of limitations, and there was no police investigation.

Let’s look at Edna a moment if we dare. Have you ever noticed—when the questions start to get tight, she says, “Father told me not to say anything.” “Father?” Which Father? He’s never referred to in such a way by anyone in the Bible. He’s referred to as “the Father,” “My Father,” “Our Father,” and “Heavenly Father.” The singular word “Father” sounds like a familiar spirit.

Here is a witch, Edna, who has met governors, congressmen, chiefs of police across the United States who engage in witchcraft. She’s not referring to seances, tara cards, but to baby killing, derelict murders, narcotics killings, sex orgies with both men and women. Now, it is her responsibility to point out, name, and expose these sources of evil, but we find now that God the Father goes against His Own Word and says not to expose anyone. Edna is supposedly involved in international “gun-running.”

How does Edna, the bride of Satan, top witch in the United States (maybe even in the whole world) manages to get out of most of the killing rituals? The tapes and the book could be taken apart piece by piece and refuted by the Bible, not to mention wisdom and plain common sense.

Just what I have stated up to this point alone would be sufficient reason not to take these women seriously. The finest Federal Investigative agencies are not interested about anything these women say. The DIA on the narcotics; the BATF on weapons; the FBI on interstate murders; the CIA on international covert deals, have no interest uniquely when these things are openly declared. If, for example, I would have said on a national tape that I’ve sold narcotics, international arms, murdered and knew people involved, every investigator in the United States would immediately run a background check on me before coming to me to elaborate on these points. If they discover within their investigation, I was a “loonie tune,” they would proceed no further. If they believe there was an iota of truth, I’d be answering questions of lots of people.

Let the Lord be the judge! I’ve been able to meet both of the women. I’ve seen where they live and where they have lived. I’ve read material regarding their past. I even read the tract that the two put out regarding the girl in a church in witchcraft: how Edna spotted her, and how Edna forgot to tell the girl (after repenting) the Biblical way to get saved.

The young in Christ, the uninitiated, those intrigued by the spectacular, and those who believe in the “bump in the night” evil, find the two women interesting. Most pastors never invite them back a second time. Needless to say, much more is to be said, as a great deal of time has been spent by many looking into the backgrounds as well as the story they put out. The tapes and the book speak for themselves.

It’s my understanding that an attorney for the two has been brought into the picture. I was so ordered by what I believe to be a Christian attorney in Los Angeles supposedly representing the two women, to cease and desist in any comments regarding them. My reply to the attorney was lengthy and strong and I stated I’d be more than happy to go to court on the matter. Interesting questions would be brought up and I’d love to hear the answers.

It is my hope that a law suit is coming up for me or to another laboring in the Lord. As an appeal to Caesar would bring out the truth and all foolishness would be put to an end in quick order.

Sincerely in Christ
Charles C. Younts


Right, there is no rocket science involved here people.  Her medical and personal track record speaks for itself.  She does not expose satanism, she promotes it.   Her books are filled to the brim with horror and gore from one satanic ritual after another.  Her books appeal to the minds of those who seek horror stories instead of Jesus Christ.

If you have been to see this woman in Centurion, I pray you ask Jesus to forgive you for going to see this woman.  Tell Jesus you are sorry for even thinking this woman is a Christian and ask Him to show you now and going forward the lies and deception disguised under the name of Rebecca Brown Yoder (and there are many others like her out there, she is not the only one; Mary K Baxter is another).   Throw away anything you brought back with you and ask Jesus to remove anything that most likely tried to attach itself to you.

If you are seeking deliverance in your life, here is what you do.  And I am not even charging you R50 – this is free, glorious free gospel of Salvation.

If you are EARNESTLY seeking Jesus Christ and deliverance then:

  1. Start obeying God and start repenting of the sin in your life.
  2. If you want Satan out of your life, then show Jesus that you are willing to come before Him in earnest and ask forgiveness for your sinful life. Go into the privacy of your own room and pray.  Make a list of your sins and name them one by one if you have too and show Jesus Christ how sincere you are.  When the Holy Spirit convicts you on certain issues in your life, listen!   People it’s all about repentance.

Do you want to be saved?  Only Jesus Christ can do that!  I can tell you what to say to help you, but it is what is in your heart that counts.  Are you looking for a quick fix to your current unhappy situation or are you sincerely seeking Jesus Christ the Son of God for a permanent 2 sided relationship.  Diligently seeking Him now means you will still want to be diligently seeking Him in 20 years time…until the day you die.


Hebrews 11:6   Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.”

Please go here for help:  Salvation and Deliverance

For much more info on the infamous Rebecca Brown, please see the following websites:

The Return of Rebecca Brown, M.D.
by G. Richard Fisher and M. Kurt Goedelman

By John Baskette
Copyright March 1994 by John Baskette

A Letter from Peter Hoover to a Friend about Rebecca Brown

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When Jesus delivered demon possessed people He did it with a single word. He never made a spiel of it telling people a bunch of lies to get their attention. Rebecca Brown fabricated many lies in her books to sell her books and to make a lot of money. I have already placed this link. Here is an excerpt.

You know, also during that time, in the 1980s, there were those who were being set free from the various cult groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, and they were establishing ministries specifically targeted to the groups they left, and so this allowed us the opportunity to refocus our attention into other matters, because these men and women were doing a fine job of providing research and resources on those mainline cults. And then I guess that kind of a turning point for us was in 1989 when we kind of added a new ingredient and that was investigative reporting. We had begun to receive a flood of inquiries about Rebecca Brown and her sidekick Elaine. Elaine claims to have been a prominent witch, and she was even married to Satan; she says Satan materialized a human body for the union. And her books were popular, and they were being published by Jack Chick, who was famous for those cartoon tracts. And really, Brown’s theology of demons and spiritual warfare were off the charts. You know, she saw a demon under every rock and said everyone that addressed her unbiblical doctrine and practice was secretly a Satanist or at least working in conjunction with them, and her background and the historical facts that she present in her books, they were very vague and very elusive, and so we tried to follow up, based on the requests that we received. We tried to follow up on the geographic and historical claims, but we kept running into dead ends.

And one day I was having a conversation with a fellow that was head of another apologetic ministry in the Chicago area, and he said, “Well, you know, if you start searching out Ruth Bailey, not Rebecca Brown, you might meet with some more success.” And so we took his advice and, man, the floodgates opened up for us. Rebecca Brown, whose real name was Ruth Bailey, was a medical doctor in rural Indiana, and her medical license had been stripped because of this bizarre behavior. And so myself and another PFO director visited the medical licensing board in Indiana and asked if we could see what information they had on Ruth Bailey, and they asked, “Well, what interest do you have? What’s your reason for this?” And so we explained to them, and they said, “Well, come back here,” and they took us back into a conference room, and they said, “Wait here.”

And several minutes later, they brought this massive file into us and set it down in front of us and said, “Here it is. If you need any more help, let us know.” And so we spent hours going through those documents, and they yielded affidavits, they yielded police reports, hospital reports, family contacts, on and on. And so we literally spent days in Indiana speaking to the police, family members, and other authorities, and so we let a publishing [company] know the results of our investigation in our newsletter publication, and actually, subsequently in a small booklet, Drugs, Demons, and Delusions , and then both Brown and Jack Chick argued that we were really witches and Satanists, and the materials that we cited, we made that all up; that was all fabricated, and the authorities that we talked to, the family members we talked to were all Satanists!

If you want to know how Jesus dealt with demon possession, read your Bible and not some books that tell you a bunch of lies.

Please read this article too.

Are you going to continue to read books filled with lies or the truth as we find it in the Bible?


Vernon Shirley wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam
I am a bit unsure as to the purpose of your article against Dr Brown is. I remember as a young Christian reading the book and feeling very relieved and hopeful. I am sure that she had many experiences that made sense to her/them at the time and I am sure that they also may have made many mistakes that, given the opportunity, they would do differently today. Here is the message I got.
• Satan is evil and would do almost anything to destroy the message and good works of God.
• People are caught when they are unaware and or weak.
• Jesus Christ came to set us free from that and He uses people like you, me and Rebecca as his hands and feet.
As I started my walk with the Lord, I found many of the things in her book was maybe not applicable to my life and I found my own way. That does not make her experiences any less unreal or practical in the things she had to face (You were not their and you may have better faith and understanding than what she had at the time). You refer for instance to God that could not do something for her a the time and then you make a statement that her god is weak, but even the disciples could not drive out all sorts of demon’s. Jesus said some interventions needed fasting and prayer. This goes to the faith level of people, not God’s ability. Even so, I am sure that is what she felt at the time she heard. That does not make it wrong.
In my opinion, Rebecca is doing more for the Lord than most…Read her books prayerfully and carefully ask the Holy Spirit to guide and use common sense when finding yourselves in a similar predicament.
Yours in Christ
Vernon Shirley

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)


Vernon Shirley may have made some good points but the fact remains that Rebecca Brown cannot be trusted. As I indicated in some of my earlier comments she fabricated some strange stories to sell her books and make a lot of money.
Why do you need books written by someone who is untrustworthy to explain to you –
• Satan is evil and would do almost anything to destroy the message and good works of God.
• People are caught when they are unaware and or weak.
• Jesus Christ came to set us free from that and He uses people like you, me and Rebecca as his hands and fee –
while the Bible does it truthfully and to the point?


“Obeying God’s commandments and in doing so guard yourself” refers to not being dependent to the Lord Jesus Christ and being dependent on our own which I believe is anti-Christ. I believe each of us need to examine what we do to see by the power of the Holy Spirit. Only He can give us clarity on any material we read. Go for hearing from the Holy Spirit than hearing from people because people is sinful in nature and not accurate at all times.


pls I don’t think its right to talk about her that way. even if she was false(which I don’t believe) what right do you have to say that about her? pls be careful so that you won’t incur the wrath of God…. Jesus loves you.

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)


Yes indeed, Jesus loves you and that’s precisely why He warns you to take heed that no man deceive you (Matthew 24:4). In fact, the wrath of God abides on those who mislead you and not on those who warn you against false teachers.

Jas 5:19-20 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

It is when you do not warn against false teachers that you lack loving your brethren in a godly way. It is then when you say “Am I my brothers keeper?”


To N Rose
Your experience is almost the same experience with mine. I was a child when I saw the hands appearing from the floor of my bedroom, in Indonesia. I asked myself whether it was a hallucination, or whether I was dreaming, half dreaming.. I didn’t want to believe this view. But I was able to think perfectly, it means that I was not hallucinating, neither crazy. I don’t know how many seconds or how many minutes, but it is sure that it didn’t last for only a second or two .
You’ve written “YOU CAN TOUCH THEM”. This point, I don’t know. Because I was in the bed, I didn’t touch them when the hands have appeared from the floor. I was so surprise that I had no idea what to do. I have just observed these phenomena (in thinking whether it was a “hallucination” as I’ve written above).
Many decades later, when I was in hotel El-Aurassi, in Alger, where I saw the apparition of an old woman with the long white hair trying to enter to my room from the big window glass face to Mediteranian sea. I was no more a child, and I am sure that it was not a hallucination. It was approximately 5:00 a.m.
To be noted : I am not superstitious man, who swallows easily Satan or God or or other mysterious creatures without any logic or at least minimal scientific explanation based on the methodology of social sciences as taught in the well known Universities.
Then, I write this to confirm that If what you write is the experience that you have really got, I believe on this strange experience, although it is not scientific, or whatever the other peoples might think (crazy, backward, primitive etc usw dll) !


Thomas Lessing (Watch and Pray / Waak en Bid)wrote on 10 February 2015 :

0 February, 2015 at 6:41 am
Quote :
When Jesus delivered demon possessed people He did it with a single word. He never made a spiel
of it telling people a bunch of lies to get their attention. Rebecca Brown fabricated many lies
in her books to sell her books and to make a lot of money. I have already placed t :is link.
Here is an excerpt.
“You know, also during that time, in the 1980s, ………we talked to were all Satanists!”

If you want to know how Jesus dealt with demon possession, read your Bible and not some books that tell you a bunch of lies.

Please read this article too.

Are you going to continue to read books filled with lies or the truth as we find it in the Bible?

Dear Thomas,
You are right that Rebecca’s book might not contain all truth.
But it doesn’t mean that the phenomena that she has described are all wrong.
It is difficult to judge what she has written is all true or all wrong, as the phenomena
related to the faith, religions, black magic, voodoo, supernatural etc can’t be proved.

The bible itself is a book containing the strange-unlogic-mysterious stories for the atheists,
the non Christians, and the majority of the peoples in Europe in this 22nd century, who might
say that Bible is the book filled with lies + fairy stories. The churches are empty in western countries. Have you never seen the churches which had been sold and transformed into the pubs
or the bars ?

I still believe the Bible, but not the whole, as well as I can believe A PART (not all)
of the phenomena or the events (Satanic organizations) described in Rebecca Book. She might
be written it, partly based on her own experience, partly on her observation (or simple research),that she has blended together with her imagination.

You suggest me to read my Bible.
I didn’t read the whole bible. However, I’ll follow your advice that I’ll do it later
if I have enough time. But many things in the Bible confuse me.
Maybe you can explain me certain strange teaching written in the Bible as follow :
“A man whose testicles have been crushed or his virile member has been mutilated,
must not be included among Lord’s people” (Deuteronome 23:2).
First : This verse is strange and funny.
Second : If the men whose the testicles are crushed aren’t included
among the Lord’s people, It is logic that the priests have to control
the men before they are admitted into the Assembly of the God’s followers.
How the priest control them ? Must the priests stand in front the Churches
and control every men’s testicles before they are admitted ?

So, Bible, Rebecca Brown’s book. .. Mysterious, enigmatic, ambigeous…

sometime understandable, sometime uncomprehensible.



I read one of her books years ago when I was a young Christian. The book made me feel really uneasy and I felt it so strongly that I threw it in the dustbin! I then did some research on her (can’t remember what I found out it was so long ago), but it was enough to not touch her books ever again!

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)


I have begun to write a response to your comment. Please be patient.

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

aster wrote:

I still believe the Bible, but not the whole, as well as I can believe A PART (not all)

I must in all honesty say that you cannot believe certain parts of the Bible and discard the parts that do not fit into your way of thinking. A truly saved person believes that God inspired the entire Bible and that it is infallible.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

Yes indeed, there are passages in Scripture that are difficult to interpret/understand. However, that does not mean we should discard those passages. You mentioned Deut 23:1 which reads as follows in the ESV.

“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.

To understand this passage we need to look at the custom of self-mutilation among pagans when God redeemed Israel from their bondage to slavery in Egypt and their subsequent establishment in the Promised Land. God forbade the Israelite who were to be a holy (set apart) nation for Him to practice the things the pagans practiced in their religious systems.

“And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.” Leviticus 20:23

One of the things God detested was self-mutilation or any other cuttings in the flesh.

“They shall not … make any cuttings in their flesh.” Leviticus 21:5
“Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves.” Deuteronomy 14:1

You may ask, isn’t circumcision a form of mutilation? There is a vast difference between God ordering you to do something and you deciding to do something of your own accord. When God orders something that may seem to be odd and out of place to us, we must bear in mind that his commands always have a specific purpose, especially in the design of His redemption of humankind.

What did circumcision in the Old Testament have to do with salvation? Absolutely nothing. However, when we take into account that the Jewish nation always sought after a sign (1 Corinthians 1:22), it is easy to understand why God gave them a sign in the flesh so as to remind them of the only means He designed for their salvation.

Circumcision points to the following: 1) that their Redeemer and Messiah (God) would come in the flesh and that He would be a male child; 2) that His blood would flow to procure their salvation; 3) that salvation involves severance from sin, death and eternal perdition in hell.

An uncircumsised man child was cut off (severed) from his people (Genesis 17:14), the reason being that uncircumcision disowned/rejected/renounced God’s only way of salvation through His Son Jesus Christ (in the Old Testamwent for the Jews).

God nearly killed Moses because he failed to circumcise one of his sons.

At a lodging place on the way the LORD met him and sought to put him to death. Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it and said, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!” (Exodus 4:24-25).

Do you see the connection? Jesus Christ is the believers’ Bridegroom of blood.

Now, let us backtrack to what I had said earlier. A male person whose organ had been cut off in reverent worship of their pagan gods, and any Israelite who followed this abominable practice, could not be circumcised. That’s rather obvious, isn’t it? As such, they were cut off from the people’s assembly when they came together to worship God.

Does that mean they were forever cut off from God and his salvation? Absolutely not!

Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the LORD say, “The LORD will surely separate me from his people”; and let not the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.” For thus says the LORD: “To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off. (Isa 56:3-5).

You asked:

If the men whose . . . testicles are crushed aren’t included among the Lord’s people, It is logic that the priests have to control the men before they are admitted into the Assembly of . . . God’s followers. How the priest control them? Must the priests stand in front the Churches and control every men’s testicles before they are admitted?

No, there was no need for the men to drop their pants so that the priests could examine them before they entered the assembly. It was incumbent on the person himself to visit a priest whenever he had any defect, including castration. Another thing to remember is that God’s judgements in the Old Testament were swift and immediate. The Israelite knew this very well and out of reverent fear of the Lord they would never try to sneak into an assembly. They knew that God knew and would never try to hide their defects from Him for fear of his swift judgements if they should enter an assembly.

And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account. (Heb 4:13)

Your concluding remarks are:

So, Bible, Rebecca Brown’s book. .. Mysterious, enigmatic, ambigeous…

sometime understandable, sometime uncomprehensible.

To compare Rebecca Brown’s books to the Word of God is dangerous. What you are saying in effect is the following:

Rebecca Brown’s books are as mysterious, enigmatic and ambiguous as the Bible, sometimes ununderstandable, sometimes uncomprhensible and therefore we may read her books as we read the Bible – with a pinch of salt.

Are you saved? The Bible says:

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:14)

In order to know and understand the things of the spirit, you must have the Spirit of God dwelling in you. People who are not saved do not have His Holy Spirit.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (Rom 8:9)


Thanks for Thomas Leesing’s the explanation.
However, our points of views are maybe not the same.
For you, Bible is everything. As one of a priest has said : “All in the Bible,
everything, every coma and every point, all contain the truth !”
I don’t get use to swallow everything .
When you read the book of Rebecca Brown, you use the brain + maybe the intuition to
detect certain anomalies or bizzarrery that your education (in your case, you use the
Bible as the reference. What is not in the Bible is wrong, what is in the Bible is right).
I agree with you that many things in Rebecca’s book come from her own imagination. What she
has written is not based fully on her experience of life. Nevertheless, I can’t judge that
all she has written is only lie. When I begun reading it, it was interesting. Demon, satan,
these creatures , that she pretends meeting (or maybe she met them really -it is hard
to verified-).

They exist, these demons, as well as satanic organizations exist (The church of la Vey’s
satanic poser might be insignificant comparatively to the satanic churches existing based on
the traditional mystical power rooted deeply in Africa or Asia whose demons are really used).
Rebecca Brown has described interestingly the satanic Cults in the United States.
Regardless of what she has written is her whole true story (as she pretends) or
maybe her imagination or the mixture of the true story and her pure imagination,
It is interesting.
She has the talent to be writer (effectivement, she is a writer).
But in keeping reading that book progressively I found it more an more bizarre, so that
I begun question myself : “Does her book contain ALL her real story, as she pretends ?”.

You’ve explained the verse of Testicles (Deuteronome 23:1). That’s ok.

Adam & Eva stories, le déluge, Noah built the Arch as his house and his Zoo (harbouring
millions of animals, from a couple of ants to variety of Dinosaurs species -I suppose-).
Any healthy human being in this era surely understand well that this Mega Zoo must be much
bigger than any modern aircraft carrier).
I don’t know whether God dictated the writer of these stories to write it as God
told him, or it comes from the brain of this writer himself.
Nevertheless, it doesn’t mean that the whole Bible is only a bunch of lies, as we can
consider that certain Truth is taught in the Bible. At least, 10 Commandments of God as
written in the Bible are not a bad thing for us, as well as it suggests us to avoid satanic
cults, not practicing the black magic, voodoo, sorcery etc .
So, you are right in stating that : we discard the part of the Bible that do not fit in
our way of thinking (as I rejected certain parts of Rebecca stories which don’t fit in our
way of thinking).

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)


To reitereate what I said before: “I must in all honesty say that you cannot believe certain parts of the Bible and discard the parts that do not fit into your way of thinking. A truly saved person believes that God inspired the entire Bible and that it is infallible.”

If you don’t believe that the Bible was inspired in its entirity by God, you cannot claim to be saved. (Numbers 23:19).

Please read this article.


I’m no saint but what I do know is this that calling one another evil is not right. Attacking and slandering each other is not right either. How is that Godly aren’t we called to love one another as Christ loved us?. All I know is before reading any book no matter who the author is or what the books about prayer about it first especially when it comes to Christian books. Secondly only God knows our hearts we can’t go running around and judging one another especially if we don’t know the person personally weather that person is preaching or writing the truth or not. God will reveal that. I haven’t been a Christian long but I’m learning and putting into practice what you learn from the Holy Spirit isn’t easy. One thing I do know is that if we seek God with all that we are He shall reveal Himself to you and sometimes we got to dig deep to get to the truth. I don’t know much and I’m still learning but sometimes we just need to shut up and do the seeking ourselves before breaking/mislead somebody cause we will be held accountable for that.

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Cass wrote,

I’m no saint but what I do know is this that calling one another evil is not right.

I can appreciate the fact that you are a young Christian and still learning. However, you should know by now that Jesus said to Peter,

But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men. (Mar 8:33)

Would you rather have us call Rebecca Brown Satan?

Jude, the brother of Jesus said,

These [false apostles, prophets and teachers] are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. (Jud 1:12-13).

Would you rather have us call Rebecca Brown “twice dead?”

Cass wrote:

How is that Godly aren’t we called to love one another as Christ loved us?. All I know is before reading any book no matter who the author is or what the books about prayer about it first especially when it comes to Christian books.

Does Christ love us to the extent that He wants us to be led into temptation and false doctrines? I really don’t think so. He actually wants us not to be misled by false apostles, prophets and teachers. In fact, He commanded us to take heed that no one deceives us (Matthew 24:4). The onus is on us not to be deceived. He is not going to do it for us. He has given us all the resources – his Holy Spirit, The Bible and discernment – to be able to know what is from Him and what not (1 John 4:1). Praying before reading a book is good. You must even pray before you read the Bible. However, you should never rely on your prayer to guide you into all truth. That is the work of the Holy Spirit (John 16:13).

Cass wrote:

Secondly only God knows our hearts we can’t go running around and judging one another especially if we don’t know the person personally weather that person is preaching or writing the truth or not. God will reveal that.

You don’t need to know the person personally to know whether his teachings are true or false. Do you need to know Queen Elizabeth II to know that she and her family are steeped in the occult? Paul never traveled from country to country so that he may make the acquaintance of all the false teachers he so vehemently withstood and exposed in his letters. God will NOT reveal false doctrine to you whilst we have his written Word to test all things. Jesus would never have said “Take heed that no one deceives you” if God intended to reveal it to you. The onus is still on you to diligently study his Word and to ask Him to give you the wisdom to be able to identify false teachers and their teachings.

Cass wrote,

I haven’t been a Christian long but I’m learning and putting into practice what you learn from the Holy Spirit isn’t easy. One thing I do know is that if we seek God with all that we are He shall reveal Himself to you and sometimes we got to dig deep to get to the truth.

Yep, that’s the right attitude – wanting to learn. However, then you should at least first investigate what Discerning the World has written in the article before you blast and accuse us of being void of real Christian love. Do you know what real Christian love is? Read this.

Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6).

It is your duty as a Berean to evaluate everything we write in the light of the Word and to show us in the light of the Word where we have gone wrong. Don’t just accuse us of things without investigating it first.


Certo che devo dire che resto altamente sconcertato dalla persona che si è permessa di scrivere questo post !!
Prima di tutto dio non ha bisogno di un giudice che lo difenda, ma è in grado di difendersi da solo prima cosa.
Secondariamente dato che li riconosceremo per i loro frutti, chi sei tu ? che cosa hai fatto per Dio ? Ma non vi vergognate e proprio per persone come voi che il mondo cristiano si sta rivoltando. Adesso ti faccio io una domanda, chi ti ha detto che Rebecca Brown è in errore ? Te l’ha detto lo spirito Santo, hai pregato e Dio ti ha mandata per illuminare noi altri ignoranti ? Vedi di tacere in nome di Gesù e prima di accusare qualcuno esamina per bene la tua coscienza non con il tuo intelletto e la tua conoscenza, ma con quella che arriva da Dio, ma poveri noi si vede che tu non ne hai molta !! Povero mondo … allora invece di criticare gli altri come una serpe, perché non ti metti a pregare per la verità. Tu vuoi solo credere in quello che ti fa comodo ne più ne meno, quanto ti sei impegnata a trovare tutte le cose a stendere una bella lista di accuse fai ridere solamente, e le persone che ti appoggiano, non riesco ad essere uno di quei cristiani che si deve moderare nel parlare perché non sono afflitto da falsità per doverti rispondere gentilmente, ma ti rispondo con tutto il sentimento che non è di odio non fraintendermi ma di compassione. Non voglio neanche una tua risposta in merito, prego per te che il signore ti possa aprire gli occhi! E impara bene a non calunniare contro i ministri, perché tu non offenda lo spirito santo !! Ehhh voi falsi accusatori Dio dice che vi conosceremo per i vostri frutti, critica, zizzania eccc … in italiano si dice siete tutto fumo niente arrosto !!

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Goghy’s comment translated in English says nothing new about the animosity one encounters when you evaluate everything in the light of God’s word.

Of course I must say that the text highly disconcerted by the person who is allowed to write this post !!

First of all, God does not need a judge to defend him, but is able to defend himself [first].

Secondly, given that we will know them by their fruits, who are you? What did you do for God? But are not you ashamed and just for people like you that the Christian world is turning. Now I’ll have a question, who told you that Rebecca Brown is in error? He told you the Holy Spirit, you prayed and God sent you to enlighten us more ignorant? View of silence in the name of Jesus and before accusing someone looks good for your conscience not with your intellect and your knowledge, but that which comes from God, but poor us you see that you do not have a lot !!

Poor world … then instead of criticizing others like a snake, why do not you pray for the truth. You just want to believe in what makes you comfortable no more or less, what you committed to finding all things to roll out a nice list of accusations do only laugh, and the people who support you, I can not be one of those Christians you must moderate in speaking because they are not plagued by falsehood for having to respond politely, but I answer with all the feeling that it is not hate but do not misunderstand compassion. I will not even a reply about, pray for you that the gentleman you can open your eyes! And learn well not to slander against the ministers, because you do not offend the holy spirit !! Ehhh you false accusers God says that you know for your fruits, criticism, weeds ect … in Italian is said you are all smoke no fire !!

Thanks, Goghy for your most insightful tirade.

First of all, I must ask you – are you a Roman Catholic?


No io non sono cattolico romano, e non ho alcuna animosità verso nessuno, ma da ogni parte che mi giro sento sempre delle sentenze sull’operato di qualcuno.
La mia famiglia ha origine ortodosse, io sono di religione evangelica,( anche se preferisco dire, che è più una relazione con dio, che una religione, Gesù non e morto per una religione ), sai questo è difficilissimo da far capire ai miei familiari che sono ortodossi, perché sono molto quadrati. Vengo dalla Svizzera, non Italia ! :)
Ho finito proprio ieri di leggere il primo libro di Rebecca, e credimi tante cose mi hanno colpito, è vero che il signore dice di provare ogni cosa prima di accettarla nella sua parola ! Ma tu mi puoi dire, che è lo spirito santo che ti guida in tutto questo, o la razionalità ?
Io non so se siete mai stati in Bosnia, posto bello, ma con un attività demoniaca tremenda nel mondo invisibile, di qui alcune cose che leggo nel libro di Rebecca le vedo proprio così come loro le descrivono, alcune le ho vissute personalmente, e ci tengo a precisare che non ho mai avuto nulla a che fare con il satanismo.
Comunque sia andrò personalmente in preghiera per il tempo che ci vorrà e troverò le risposte, in questo confido e voglio avere fede che il Signore Gesù, mi aiuterà per quello che è necessario.
Però non capisco veramente perché i ministeri che si occupano di liberazione, Rebecca a parte, sono sempre criticati ? Un saluto a tutti voi, e una cosa sola posso dire, preghiamo, preghiamo, preghiamo e la nostra arma migliore, non diamoci a inutili dispute, scambi di parere ci possono senz’altro stare.
Un cordiale saluto e che Dio vi benedica ne nome di Gesù.
Goghy, from Lugano, Svizzera :)

No I am not a Roman Catholic, and I have no animosity toward anyone, but from everywhere I turn around I always hear of the judgments on the work of someone.
My family originates Orthodox, I am of evangelical religion, (although I prefer to say, which is more a relationship with God, a religion, and Jesus did not die for a religion), you know this is very difficult to make it clear to my family who are Orthodox, because they are very square. I come from Switzerland, not Italy! :)
I ended up just yesterday to read the first book of Rebecca, and believe me many things struck me, it is true that the Lord says to try everything before accepting it in his word! But you can tell me, who is the Holy Spirit who guides you in all this, or rationality?
I do not know if you’ve ever been in Bosnia, beautiful place, but with a tremendous demonic activity in the invisible world, here’s a few things that I read in the book of Rebecca I see them just as they describe them, some I have experienced personally, and there I wish to state that I have never had anything to do with Satanism.
Anyway I will personally pray for the time it will take and I will find the answers in this trust and want to have faith that the Lord Jesus, help me for what you need.
But really I do not understand why the ministries concerned with liberation, Rebecca aside, are always criticized? Greetings to all of you, and one thing I can say, please, please, please, and our best weapon, let’s not to unnecessary disputes, exchanges of opinion there may well be.
Best regards and God bless them the name of Jesus.
Goghy, from Lugano, Switzerland :)


Si si certo ho capito quello che vuoi dire, hai ragione analizzerò la questione secondo la scrittura, però io quello che volevo sapere, oltre la scrittura hai anche interpellato Dio al riguardo ? Noi possiamo analizzare le scritture e sono d’accordo è giustissimo, ma non sempre possiamo avere un super discernimento della parola, ed è qui che entra in ruolo lo Spirito Santo, a farci capire le cose sulle quali meditiamo …
È chiaro che il libro di Rebecca non potrà mai essere paragonato alla Bibbia che è scritta dallo Spirito Santo.
Sai e quello che io volevo dire spesso vedo le cose analizzate, ma senza il fiato dello Spirito Santo la Bibbia resta un libro, è lo Spirito Santo che vivifica la parola, io ero questo che volevo sapere. Ci sono persone qui che in Spirito di verità hanno avuto la conferma che determinate cose non sono giuste ?
Grazie mille di farmi sapere :)

It is sure I understand what you mean , you’re right, I will analyze the issue according to the scripture , but I know what I wanted , besides writing you also asked God about it? We can analyze the scriptures and I agree it is absolutely right , but we can not always have a super discernment of the word , and it is here that comes into the role the Holy Spirit , to make us understand the things on which we meditate …
It is clear that the book Rebecca can never be compared to the Bible that is written by the Holy Spirit .
You know , and what I wanted to say I often see things analyzed , but without the breath of the Holy Spirit , the Bible is a book , is the Holy Spirit who gives life to the word , I was what I wanted to know . There are people here and in the Spirit of truth had confirmed that certain things are not right ?
Thank you so much for letting me know :)

anurag pulivarti

First thing. who ever created this site. who gave you the authority to judge these people??? If you want to believe that Rebecca Brown is a chosen servant of God. Its upto you. You dont have a right to create a website and post this false things about her. Apparently you dont believe in modern day prophets and apostles. Who is T.B Joshua, D.G.S Dhinakaran, Benny Hinn, Dwight L. Moody, Billy Graham..Acts 2:17-18.. 1 Corinthians 12:28.. 4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

At last get this Tomorrow if you keep judging God’s servants like this. When you stand before his throne God is gonna ask you “Who gave you the authority to judge my servants”..

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

anurag pulivarti

Who gave us the authority to judge (discern)? Don’t you know?

1 Corinthians 2:14-15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated.

15 But the spiritual man tries all things [he [a]examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him]. (1 Cor 2:14-15)

1 John 4:1 Amplified Bible (AMP)

4 Beloved, do not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

1 Corinthians 5:12 Amplified Bible (AMP)

12 What [business] of mine is it and what right have I to judge outsiders? Is it not those inside [the church] upon whom you are to pass disciplinary judgment [passing censuring sentence on them as the facts require]?

I have some bad news for you. Those who deceive others are not God’s servants. They are servants of Satan.

2 Corinthians 11:12-14Amplified Bible (AMP)

12 But what I do, I will continue to do, [for I am determined to maintain this independence] in order to cut off the claim of those who would like [to find an occasion and incentive] to claim that in their boasted [mission] they work on the same terms that we do.

13 For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah).

14 And it is no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

There are no longer apostles today, my friend. Those who claim they are apostles are lying.

anurag pulivarti

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Child of GOD

I just want to say the writers of this site should pray for the wisdom of GOD. I was curious because someone mentioned this book, I came to this site. What I see is arrogance and secondly not working in the love of GOD with your words. The way both Deborah and Thomas are going about it is off putting. I am a very spiritual person. There is nothing wrong in pointing out what you believe are false teachings. Just take a minute and ask GOD the Father GOD the son and GOD the HOLY SPIRIT, if you have delivered your intended message appropriately and responded to your site visitors wisely? There are a lot of emotionally charged responses from Thomas especially, even though you have accused someone of this. Rebecca brown may have lied but do you know that GOD uses what the devil tried to trap his children to turn into good things for them in someway in their lives. The people to be worried about are unbelievers, that we should pray for. GOD is looking out for all his children. The HOLY SPIRIT will guide those who shouldn’t touch that book because they can’t handle it and those who should maybe to use it for their insight against the devil, with GOD discerning what is true or false.

Child of GOD

GOD helping his children discern what is false and what could be useful. The bible says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge – Hosea 4:6. Knowledge is power- and the devil works from this angle obviously being decietful. Not everyone is equipped to handle something’s, although you can pray for this. GOD knows us individually he knows our strengths and weaknesses. My point is that book might be satanic or might not be. In the hands of a true child of GOD can be a weapon against the devil that’s has tried to deceive his children. I would employ both Deborah and Thomas to really ask GOD if they have been wise in their approach. Have you judged with love and wisdom? I could go on and on…… Please do not come for me. Am stating what I have see. As I have read all the comments and asked for GOD’s guidance as I write. If you will both respond please respond as the HOLY SPIRIT guides you.

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Child of God,

Jesus said,

“Tale heed that no man deceive you, but should you be deceived, don’t worry, I will turn the deception that entangled you and is pulling you away from God into something good. Yes, I will sugar coat your deception so well that you won’t even know you are deceived or being deceived. So let us all just smile and skip along happily like little children who just love to play ‘ring a ring a roses, hush, hush all fall down into the abyss of deception’ cause Jesus is going to turn your deceived little hearts into something good. I love you so much that you won’t even realize you are deceived.” Is that what Jesus meant when he said “TAKE HEED THAT NO MAN DECEIVE YOU? (Matthew 24:4).

And talking about being spiritual. Here’s what the Bible says,

1 Corinthians 2:15 Amplified Bible

15 But the spiritual man tries all things [he [a]examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

The opposite of this is,

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: (Eph 4:14-15)

You also mentioned emotionalism. I really think you don’t know what it means. Let me tell you. Emotionalism, is when you attack someone blindly – like you have done with us – without referring even once to Scripture. You ramble on by giving your own insights without backing it up with Scripture. That’s sheer emotionalism. If the Holy Spirit JUST GUIDES those who shouldn’t touch that book because they can’t dandle it, then Jesus would never have commanded us to “Take heed that no man deceive you.” You see, He expects you and all those whom you say Jesus will turn their deception into something good, to be like the Bereans. They searched the Scriptures daily to make sure everything they heard and read was from God or not. The Holy Spirit is not just ever so gently going to guide you. Why do you think He gave us his Word? To sit on it while the Holy Spirit guides us. How do you know it is the Holy Spirit and not some other filthy and defiled spirit who is guiding you?

As you said, “I just want to say that YOU (Child of God) should pray for wisdom from God. Then, at least you wouldn’t be so emotionally charged and randomly accuse us of everything under the sun.

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Child of God wrote,

I would employ both Deborah and Thomas to really ask GOD if they have been wise in their approach. Have you judged with love and wisdom? I could go on and on…… Please do not come for me. Am stating what I have see. As I have read all the comments and asked for GOD’s guidance as I write. If you will both respond please respond as the HOLY SPIRIT guides you.

No my dear, I refuse to be guided by the “Holy Spirit” (who may NOT be the Holy Spirit but another filthy spirit who refuses to acknowledge that the Bible should be your only guideline for knowledge and truth) to guide me without searching the Holy-Spirit-inspired-Scriptures. Do we agree on that, or not? So let us turn to the Bible and evaluate your comment in the light of the Holy-Spirit-inspired Word of God.

May I ask you, are you judging us with love and wisdom? Do you know what true love is? Let me tell you and please learn to rely on Scripture and not your own emotionally charged feelings.

Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6)

Please allow me to explain to you what it means because you obviously do not know. First of all it teaches us that there is a false love and many so-called Christians are using it to lead millions into the abyss. They are the ones who kiss you, hug you, kiss you and hug you again and again, and tell you “Oh I love you sooooooo much” but deep down their kisses are really the hisses of Satan himself. Their so-called love drips with the poison of Satan. I know, because one of my closests family members whose wife is in the damnable WOF movement told me “I love her so much and therefore I don’t want to offend her.” He does not love her. He loves her to death – to an eternal death.

Then there are those who rely on Scripture to show (not just tell others) they love them and do not want them to be deceived. These Christians know that when they quote Scripture to the deceived ones that it may cause deep wounds in their souls. They know that the word of God is sharper than a two-edged sword and may draw blood when it is wielded in the right way. Oops! before you jump to conclusion, I am using this metaphorically, to show you what it means when the Bible says the wounds of a friend are faithful.

By the way, knowledge is not power. “Knowledge” is mentioned 172 times in the Bible and never once does it say “Knowledge is power.” How do you read your Bible? In a sloppy way?

You said,

My point is that book might be satanic or might not be. In the hands of a true child of GOD can be a weapon against the devil that’s has tried to deceive his children.

No my dear Child of God. You are wrong again. God never says to his true children, “OK, listen up, I inspired Rebecca Brown to write her illustrious book so that you may know how to use it as a weapon against her and her book and the devil.” This is what God says,

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. (2 Corinthians 10:3-6)

How are we supposed to cast down vain imaginations and bring them into captivity to Christ? Should we sit in a little corner and shout as loud as we can, “Satan, I bind you in the Name of Jesus, I bind you, I bind you, bind you.” You will sit there until doomsday and accomplish less than nothing. However, when you wield the Sword of the Lord correctly, you may just manage to save a soul whose life has been ravished by evil deceptions.

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (James 5:20)

Are you prepared to save souls who had been deceived from their error? You do? Well, join the club because then most so-called Christians are going to accuse you of arrogance, conceitedness, lovelessness, wissdomlessness, knowledgelessness, powerlessness, hardheartedness, etc. etc. etc. Or are you also one of those who say “Ooh I love you so much. Give me a kiss and a hug” and then don’t care a hoot what happens to them because they must learn how to use Rebecca Brown’s book as a weapon against her and the devil?

Child of GOD

[deleted by DTW – Your type of comment is what we usually get, full of ‘hate’ disguised as ‘love’ – it’s clear what spirit speaks through you and it’s not the Holy Spirit. You would rather love people straight to hell. Don’t comment again.]


No where ??????? are you crazy , stupids or what…or you think that ‘we’ are stupids? I am Jew and all my people is scattered over the world since Assyria and Babylon deportation after the end of monarchy in Israel( Zedekiah, last king of Judah) like God told us if we would disobey Him in Deuteronomy 28 until now(because of our sins against Go(in the book Judges, Kings, you can see all my people’s rebellion: worship other gods, being corrupted and murderers etc.) The Holocaust is the most powerful witness of God’s wrath against us ( Matthiew 27.25)because we took responsibility of Jesus Death almost all Israel was about to disappear from the face of the earth and you say that God doesn’t shed his anger to his sons??? look, we, the Jews are God’s choosen sons since ”’a lot of time”’ before you gentile Christians appear!!!! (Hebrews 12:6,Proverbs 3:12) because we are His Sons God takes time to correct us!! I think you are insulting our intelligence

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