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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-494333&quot;&gt;1vahdi&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear 1vahdi

A Translation of your comment 

&lt;blockquote&gt;1vahdi said: &quot;this is off the road, you can know it was hijacked. Your source list you mention is fine, Prescription reading material for every God-fearing person at the time. One must also be &quot;the jews in south africa&quot;. Did you know they had to be scrubbed before they could leave the harbor? The worst case of mistaken identity ever, I tell you.
Oh, Jew had to be translated Judean. Discerning the world has been a good site. Now not so sure anymore.
Remember, you are not alone, there are those 7,000 somewhere. Be strong and come out. The bride and groom become silent as prophesied in Revelation. We must love our NEAREST! How dare I love those who hate God. If there is one from a city and 2 from a generation then it is few. Very little . If there are still the people from the mountain, Esau edom exists (read his menu in Obadiah) and all the new ones and sits as well. That water that was spewed afterwards (many speak in Afrikaans) Don&#039;t get involved in a fight. Just to encourage you, I didn&#039;t want to talk to others. Hold on to what you have&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What exactly in this article has upset you so much? 

What strange doctrine do you follow? You said &quot;&lt;em&gt;Remember, you are not alone, there are those 7,000 somewhere.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; If I am lost in translation here please pardon me, but what on earth does this mean?

Are you anti-semitic?  

&lt;strong&gt;You who believes in another gospel&lt;/strong&gt; are no better than the Israelite that follows after Babylonian gods in the teachings of the Kaballah, you are no better than a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Roman Catholic for that matter.

&lt;strong&gt;Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-494333" >1vahdi</a>.</p>
<p>Dear 1vahdi</p>
<p>A Translation of your comment </p>
<blockquote><p>1vahdi said: &#8220;this is off the road, you can know it was hijacked. Your source list you mention is fine, Prescription reading material for every God-fearing person at the time. One must also be &#8220;the jews in south africa&#8221;. Did you know they had to be scrubbed before they could leave the harbor? The worst case of mistaken identity ever, I tell you.<br />
Oh, Jew had to be translated Judean. Discerning the world has been a good site. Now not so sure anymore.<br />
Remember, you are not alone, there are those 7,000 somewhere. Be strong and come out. The bride and groom become silent as prophesied in Revelation. We must love our NEAREST! How dare I love those who hate God. If there is one from a city and 2 from a generation then it is few. Very little . If there are still the people from the mountain, Esau edom exists (read his menu in Obadiah) and all the new ones and sits as well. That water that was spewed afterwards (many speak in Afrikaans) Don&#8217;t get involved in a fight. Just to encourage you, I didn&#8217;t want to talk to others. Hold on to what you have&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What exactly in this article has upset you so much? </p>
<p>What strange doctrine do you follow? You said &#8220;<em>Remember, you are not alone, there are those 7,000 somewhere.</em>&#8221; If I am lost in translation here please pardon me, but what on earth does this mean?</p>
<p>Are you anti-semitic?  </p>
<p><strong>You who believes in another gospel</strong> are no better than the Israelite that follows after Babylonian gods in the teachings of the Kaballah, you are no better than a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Roman Catholic for that matter.</p>
<p><strong>Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;</strong></p>
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		By: 1vahdi		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-494333</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob ,Sharon .  Wanneer n forum oor fundamentele dinge  soos hierdie van die pad af is , kan jy weet dat dit  gekaap is .  Jou bronnelys wat jy noem is prima ,  Voorskrskrif leesstof vir elke Godvresende persoon in die&#039; tyd .  N moet he een is ook &quot;the jews in south africa &quot;  . Het jy geweet hulle moes eers geskrop word  voordat hulle die hawe kon verlaat ? The worst case of mistaken identity ever , I tell you.
O , Jew moes vertaal wees Judean . Discerning the world was n goeie site gewees. Nou nie meer so seker.
Onthou , julle is nie alleen nie , daars nog daardie 7000 iewers . Sterk wees en kom uit . Die bruid en bruidegom raak stil soos in Openbaring geprofeteer. Ons moet ons NAASTE lief he hoor ! Hoe durf ek die liefhe wie God haat . As daar die een uit n stad en 2 uit n geslag is dan is dit min . Baie min . As daar die mense van die berg af nog bestaan , bestaan esau edom (lees sy spyskaart in Obadja .)en al die niete en siete ook  . Daardie water wat agterna gespoeg is , (baie praat afrikaans hoor) Moenie in n woordestryd betrokke raak nie . Net om julle te bemoedig , ek wou nie met ander gesels nie . Hou vas wat julle het 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob ,Sharon .  Wanneer n forum oor fundamentele dinge  soos hierdie van die pad af is , kan jy weet dat dit  gekaap is .  Jou bronnelys wat jy noem is prima ,  Voorskrskrif leesstof vir elke Godvresende persoon in die&#8217; tyd .  N moet he een is ook &#8220;the jews in south africa &#8221;  . Het jy geweet hulle moes eers geskrop word  voordat hulle die hawe kon verlaat ? The worst case of mistaken identity ever , I tell you.<br />
O , Jew moes vertaal wees Judean . Discerning the world was n goeie site gewees. Nou nie meer so seker.<br />
Onthou , julle is nie alleen nie , daars nog daardie 7000 iewers . Sterk wees en kom uit . Die bruid en bruidegom raak stil soos in Openbaring geprofeteer. Ons moet ons NAASTE lief he hoor ! Hoe durf ek die liefhe wie God haat . As daar die een uit n stad en 2 uit n geslag is dan is dit min . Baie min . As daar die mense van die berg af nog bestaan , bestaan esau edom (lees sy spyskaart in Obadja .)en al die niete en siete ook  . Daardie water wat agterna gespoeg is , (baie praat afrikaans hoor) Moenie in n woordestryd betrokke raak nie . Net om julle te bemoedig , ek wou nie met ander gesels nie . Hou vas wat julle het<br />
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		By: JK		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-491481</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin Horan wrote:
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Mr. Horan, since you seem to be the leading “Jew apologist” on this website, how would you respond to the following sermon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SsldyFTMyE&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Horan wrote:</p>
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<p>Mr. Horan, since you seem to be the leading “Jew apologist” on this website, how would you respond to the following sermon?<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SsldyFTMyE"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SsldyFTMyE</a></p></blockquote>
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		By: Juan		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-491476</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 00:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin Horan wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;There are many Messianic Jews who back us Christians &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most “Messianic Jews” I’ve seen aren’t even Jewish by birth; they’re judaized gentile Christians! They also preach a lot of heresies and false prophecies (see Mark Biltz, Jonathan Cahn, etc)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Horan wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are many Messianic Jews who back us Christians </p></blockquote>
<p>Most “Messianic Jews” I’ve seen aren’t even Jewish by birth; they’re judaized gentile Christians! They also preach a lot of heresies and false prophecies (see Mark Biltz, Jonathan Cahn, etc)</p>
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		By: Martin Horan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Horan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Martin Horan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Horan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, Edmund. Ignatius Loyola was not a Jew. He came from an old Basque Noble family who were Catholics. Go and read any history of his life and you&#039;ll see that for yourself. He was baptised with the name Inigo and later changed it to Ignatius. To the Catholics, Loyola is a saint--which you become after you are dead and nominated to be one. He certainly is not a saint in the biblical sense which is a term applied to any living Christian. Perhaps you are mixing him up with Torquemada--who though not a Jew either, is reckoned to have Jewish blood on one side. If so, what would that prove anyway?

Corne, the Bible makes clear who the (Arab, not all) Moslems are. 

The New Testament says not all ISRAEL are Israel [Romans 9:6] and Paul explains what he means by Israel--descendants of Abraham, explaining that the Arabs through Esau are not bona fide descendants--as you will see if you read down to verse 13. It is abundantly clear then that Arabs are not part of that calling as Israel are.

Jude, you are in a scary postion if you are blaming the Jews for the Crucifixion of Christ. Acts 4:27 makes it clear who was to blame. (Besides Jesus was arrested in a secluded place for fear of the people causing a tumult: They had been waving palm leaves and hailing Him as the Messiah earlier.) If people even try to blame all those mentioned in Acts 4:27 then it seems that they are not taking your part of the blame for crucifying the Lord. We are ALL to blame. To blame Jews or anyone else surely is refusing to accept that Jesus then died for your sins. ALL of the first Christians and ALL of the disciple were Jews. NO exceptions!

Those who take Revelation (written by John, a Jew) 2:9 and 3:9 where he says, &quot;Those who SAY they are Jews  but are NOT but are a synagogue of Satan&quot; (synagogue is a Greek word, not Hebrew, and is used in the sense of a building where Christians go) to mean that these are Jews (in other words saying they are God&#039;s chosen people). They are judging the Jews by a different standard from the ones where he has said (in 2:2) &quot;those who SAY they are apostles but are NOT&quot; therefore are at best being illogical and at worst are being hypocritical. If they are not apostles as he is evidently saying, then those who say they are not Jews (God&#039;s chosen people) are not Jews either.

For those who think they are Christians and make anti-Semitic remarks, they are on thin ice. (Genesis 12:2-3; 27:29; Jeremiah 30:11; Zechariah 12:1-9; John 4:22 and Romans 11.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Edmund. Ignatius Loyola was not a Jew. He came from an old Basque Noble family who were Catholics. Go and read any history of his life and you&#8217;ll see that for yourself. He was baptised with the name Inigo and later changed it to Ignatius. To the Catholics, Loyola is a saint&#8211;which you become after you are dead and nominated to be one. He certainly is not a saint in the biblical sense which is a term applied to any living Christian. Perhaps you are mixing him up with Torquemada&#8211;who though not a Jew either, is reckoned to have Jewish blood on one side. If so, what would that prove anyway?</p>
<p>Corne, the Bible makes clear who the (Arab, not all) Moslems are. </p>
<p>The New Testament says not all ISRAEL are Israel [Romans 9:6] and Paul explains what he means by Israel&#8211;descendants of Abraham, explaining that the Arabs through Esau are not bona fide descendants&#8211;as you will see if you read down to verse 13. It is abundantly clear then that Arabs are not part of that calling as Israel are.</p>
<p>Jude, you are in a scary postion if you are blaming the Jews for the Crucifixion of Christ. Acts 4:27 makes it clear who was to blame. (Besides Jesus was arrested in a secluded place for fear of the people causing a tumult: They had been waving palm leaves and hailing Him as the Messiah earlier.) If people even try to blame all those mentioned in Acts 4:27 then it seems that they are not taking your part of the blame for crucifying the Lord. We are ALL to blame. To blame Jews or anyone else surely is refusing to accept that Jesus then died for your sins. ALL of the first Christians and ALL of the disciple were Jews. NO exceptions!</p>
<p>Those who take Revelation (written by John, a Jew) 2:9 and 3:9 where he says, &#8220;Those who SAY they are Jews  but are NOT but are a synagogue of Satan&#8221; (synagogue is a Greek word, not Hebrew, and is used in the sense of a building where Christians go) to mean that these are Jews (in other words saying they are God&#8217;s chosen people). They are judging the Jews by a different standard from the ones where he has said (in 2:2) &#8220;those who SAY they are apostles but are NOT&#8221; therefore are at best being illogical and at worst are being hypocritical. If they are not apostles as he is evidently saying, then those who say they are not Jews (God&#8217;s chosen people) are not Jews either.</p>
<p>For those who think they are Christians and make anti-Semitic remarks, they are on thin ice. (Genesis 12:2-3; 27:29; Jeremiah 30:11; Zechariah 12:1-9; John 4:22 and Romans 11.</p>
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		By: Edmund		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 20:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Martin Horan.
Saint Ignatius Loyola was a jew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Martin Horan.<br />
Saint Ignatius Loyola was a jew.</p>
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		By: jurie antonites		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-302459</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish Desmond tutu would read the Bible and bring his people to repentance and he must pray for the peace of Jerusalem and he must be told that JESUS was a Jew, he who touches the apple of his eye Jerusalem and the Jews will be destroyed]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Desmond tutu would read the Bible and bring his people to repentance and he must pray for the peace of Jerusalem and he must be told that JESUS was a Jew, he who touches the apple of his eye Jerusalem and the Jews will be destroyed</p>
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		By: Martin Horan		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-298944</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Horan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HI Jude. 
I was a educated as a Catholic. The Catholics never apologized for its treatment of Jews, which it murdered in the in the Crusades as it did Bible believing Christians and Moslems. It also murdered Jews and true Christians, in untold millions, in the Inquisition. Adolf Hitler, like Mussolini and Franco and the leaders of all the Facsist, anti-Semitic South American countries were practising Catholic--till the days one each died. Hitler, who built his Gestapo on the Jesuits, called Goebels his Ignatius Loyola! And Franco publicly called stated, on the death of Hitler, the the Catholic Church had lost a great son in the Fuhrer! These are facts.
How do you think so many Nazis escaped to South America? They did so, as Dave Hunt and other Christian writers showed, on Vatican passports, under Pope Pius XII. Read Catholic historian John Cornwell&#039;s book, on Pius XII, called &quot;Hitler&#039;s Pope&quot;. Read the books of former Catholic David Yallop and of former Jesuit priest Diego Riviera and Father Charles Chiquy and their views regarding the Vatican not being anti-Semitic. It would perhaps change your views, as they say the opposite.
In very recent history Pope John Paul II, a friend of Arafat, said nothing when Arafat publicly claimed that Jesus was the first Palestinian to carry a sword. Dave Hunt asked why the pope didn&#039;t rebuke Arafat publicly as the latter made his outrageous claim publicly. 
The Pope couldn&#039;t; and you&#039;d know why if you actually knew the history of the Roman Catholic church which to this day accuses the Jews of crucifying Christ and denies their right to have Israel. This is why they support a divided Jerusalem and Bible-believing Christians so not. Catholic theology claims the Papacy to have replaced the Jews as God&#039;s people. Check what Unam Santam means.
Any Christian who, as you say, uses Jews as pawns for the apocalypse would not--could not--be a real Christian.
There are many Messianic Jews who back us Christians and know what the Catholic Church is, not only those of us who were once a part of it. I suggest you google Alan Lamont and find what the Jesuits are all about.
By the bye the Catholic Church could not apologize for what they did to the Jews, because they would have to contradict Semper Eadem if they did; and no pope would ever do that. The Catholic Christ is the fake Christ and the first Reformers believed that. Anti-semites like Luther and Calvin, never fully rejected their Catholicism. If you read their writings you will see that for yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Jude.<br />
I was a educated as a Catholic. The Catholics never apologized for its treatment of Jews, which it murdered in the in the Crusades as it did Bible believing Christians and Moslems. It also murdered Jews and true Christians, in untold millions, in the Inquisition. Adolf Hitler, like Mussolini and Franco and the leaders of all the Facsist, anti-Semitic South American countries were practising Catholic&#8211;till the days one each died. Hitler, who built his Gestapo on the Jesuits, called Goebels his Ignatius Loyola! And Franco publicly called stated, on the death of Hitler, the the Catholic Church had lost a great son in the Fuhrer! These are facts.<br />
How do you think so many Nazis escaped to South America? They did so, as Dave Hunt and other Christian writers showed, on Vatican passports, under Pope Pius XII. Read Catholic historian John Cornwell&#8217;s book, on Pius XII, called &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s Pope&#8221;. Read the books of former Catholic David Yallop and of former Jesuit priest Diego Riviera and Father Charles Chiquy and their views regarding the Vatican not being anti-Semitic. It would perhaps change your views, as they say the opposite.<br />
In very recent history Pope John Paul II, a friend of Arafat, said nothing when Arafat publicly claimed that Jesus was the first Palestinian to carry a sword. Dave Hunt asked why the pope didn&#8217;t rebuke Arafat publicly as the latter made his outrageous claim publicly.<br />
The Pope couldn&#8217;t; and you&#8217;d know why if you actually knew the history of the Roman Catholic church which to this day accuses the Jews of crucifying Christ and denies their right to have Israel. This is why they support a divided Jerusalem and Bible-believing Christians so not. Catholic theology claims the Papacy to have replaced the Jews as God&#8217;s people. Check what Unam Santam means.<br />
Any Christian who, as you say, uses Jews as pawns for the apocalypse would not&#8211;could not&#8211;be a real Christian.<br />
There are many Messianic Jews who back us Christians and know what the Catholic Church is, not only those of us who were once a part of it. I suggest you google Alan Lamont and find what the Jesuits are all about.<br />
By the bye the Catholic Church could not apologize for what they did to the Jews, because they would have to contradict Semper Eadem if they did; and no pope would ever do that. The Catholic Christ is the fake Christ and the first Reformers believed that. Anti-semites like Luther and Calvin, never fully rejected their Catholicism. If you read their writings you will see that for yourself.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/07/antisemitism-south-africa/#comment-293331&quot;&gt;Jude&lt;/a&gt;.

Jude,

Your worst enemy is your own unbelief and with that I close my case.]]></description>
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<p>Jude,</p>
<p>Your worst enemy is your own unbelief and with that I close my case.</p>
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