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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-496595&quot;&gt;Ariane&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ariane. And so do the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormons, the Jehovah&#039;s witnesses, and many other heretics back up everything they say with the Bible, with a slight twist. That&#039;s precisely how the angel of light (Satan) works to deceive people.



&lt;blockquote&gt;For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Co 11:13-15).&lt;/blockquote&gt;



You wrote in another comment.



&lt;blockquote&gt;If I was put in a position where I had to choose between taking the mark or watching my 6 kids starve to death slowly everyday, or be slaughter maliciously in front of me, so you think that my Father would say to me, “You’re no longer My daughter and you have no place in my eternal kingdom. Now only your children will come while you burn in eternal fire,” and cast me away? &lt;/blockquote&gt;



If, and I emphasize the word “if,” you were willing to take the mark of the beast to save your children from starvation and even your own life, God would never have been your Father and you would never have been his daughter from the word go. And here is why.



&lt;blockquote&gt;And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev 14:9-11).&lt;/blockquote&gt;



At any rate, if you love your own flesh and blood more than Jesus, you cannot be his disciple.



&lt;blockquote&gt;You cannot be my disciple unless you love me more than you love your father and mother, your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters. You cannot come with me unless you love me more than you love your own life. Luke 14:26).&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I know of many mothers, who during the persecution in Russia, were given the ultimatum to either deny and renounce Jesus Christ or to see their children hacked to death before their eyes. Most of them chose not to deny Jesus Christ whom they loved more than their own children. 

And this, I may add, is true Christianity, and not the kind John MacArthur proclaims where you may take the mark of the beast and still be saved. He is a liar and a malicious deceiver.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-496595" >Ariane</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ariane. And so do the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormons, the Jehovah&#8217;s witnesses, and many other heretics back up everything they say with the Bible, with a slight twist. That&#8217;s precisely how the angel of light (Satan) works to deceive people.</p>
<blockquote><p>For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Co 11:13-15).</p></blockquote>
<p>You wrote in another comment.</p>
<blockquote><p>If I was put in a position where I had to choose between taking the mark or watching my 6 kids starve to death slowly everyday, or be slaughter maliciously in front of me, so you think that my Father would say to me, “You’re no longer My daughter and you have no place in my eternal kingdom. Now only your children will come while you burn in eternal fire,” and cast me away? </p></blockquote>
<p>If, and I emphasize the word “if,” you were willing to take the mark of the beast to save your children from starvation and even your own life, God would never have been your Father and you would never have been his daughter from the word go. And here is why.</p>
<blockquote><p>And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev 14:9-11).</p></blockquote>
<p>At any rate, if you love your own flesh and blood more than Jesus, you cannot be his disciple.</p>
<blockquote><p>You cannot be my disciple unless you love me more than you love your father and mother, your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters. You cannot come with me unless you love me more than you love your own life. Luke 14:26).</p></blockquote>
<p>I know of many mothers, who during the persecution in Russia, were given the ultimatum to either deny and renounce Jesus Christ or to see their children hacked to death before their eyes. Most of them chose not to deny Jesus Christ whom they loved more than their own children. </p>
<p>And this, I may add, is true Christianity, and not the kind John MacArthur proclaims where you may take the mark of the beast and still be saved. He is a liar and a malicious deceiver.</p>
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		By: Ariane		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-496595</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2021 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;span&gt;The reason I reference John’s teachings primarily when I’m trying to understand something in scripture more clearly is because he backs up everything he says with God’s word. &lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>The reason I reference John’s teachings primarily when I’m trying to understand something in scripture more clearly is because he backs up everything he says with God’s word. </span></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333737</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 07:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333192&quot;&gt;Warren&lt;/a&gt;.

Warren

&gt;&gt;  “Once saved always saved” right? Over and over the New Testament warns us about falling away, backsliding, sinning that keeps us from the Kingdom of God, etc.

Please read &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/important-dtw-topics/eternal-security-backsliding-once-saved-always-saved/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all articles on Eternal Security &lt;/a&gt;and understand that when you are saved you are saved..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333192" >Warren</a>.</p>
<p>Warren</p>
<p>>>  “Once saved always saved” right? Over and over the New Testament warns us about falling away, backsliding, sinning that keeps us from the Kingdom of God, etc.</p>
<p>Please read <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/important-dtw-topics/eternal-security-backsliding-once-saved-always-saved/"  rel="nofollow">all articles on Eternal Security </a>and understand that when you are saved you are saved..</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333731</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 06:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333197&quot;&gt;Warren&lt;/a&gt;.

Warren

&gt;&gt; When it comes to Calvinism (in which I grew up and taught) check out Jacob Prasch

So now you have moved to Methodism?  Jacob Prasch is a Methodist (he follows the teaching of John Wesley -founder of Methodism and George Whitefield a Calvinism/Methodist) and speaks with a forked tongue.  He does not disagree with Calvinism he proclaims that it&#039;s ok and it&#039;s ministers preach the truth.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/03/jacob-prasch-but-by-the-grace-of-god-those-calvinists-tell-the-truth/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See here: Jacob Prasch – But By The Grace of God [those Calvinists] . . . Tell The Truth!&lt;/a&gt;

See all articles on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/pastors-teachers-speakers/j/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jacob Prasch here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-333197" >Warren</a>.</p>
<p>Warren</p>
<p>>> When it comes to Calvinism (in which I grew up and taught) check out Jacob Prasch</p>
<p>So now you have moved to Methodism?  Jacob Prasch is a Methodist (he follows the teaching of John Wesley -founder of Methodism and George Whitefield a Calvinism/Methodist) and speaks with a forked tongue.  He does not disagree with Calvinism he proclaims that it&#8217;s ok and it&#8217;s ministers preach the truth.  <a href="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/03/jacob-prasch-but-by-the-grace-of-god-those-calvinists-tell-the-truth/"  rel="nofollow">See here: Jacob Prasch – But By The Grace of God [those Calvinists] . . . Tell The Truth!</a></p>
<p>See all articles on <a href="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/pastors-teachers-speakers/j/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries/"  rel="nofollow">Jacob Prasch here</a></p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When it comes to Calvinism (in which I grew up and taught) check out Jacob Prasch on YouTube as he exposes the lies in Calvinism along with it&#039;s history of being similar to Islam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to Calvinism (in which I grew up and taught) check out Jacob Prasch on YouTube as he exposes the lies in Calvinism along with it&#8217;s history of being similar to Islam.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand where you are coming from. I was raised Baptist and a Calvinist at that. It was not until I understood the scriptures by reading them and CHOOSING to believe them that I was slowly set free from my teachers. Re-aligning your will to what the scriptures mean is extremely difficult. More like a war with your mind, which wants to sip over the scriptures. 

You do not know the warnings in the New Testament and skip over or simply ignore them because &quot;Surely these don&#039;t apply to me. I am a Christian.&quot; &quot;Once saved always saved&quot; right? Over and over the New Testament warns us about falling away, backsliding, sinning that keeps us from the Kingdom of God, etc. 

Do you believe God changes? Malachi 3:6 “For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. 

What does He say in Ezekiel 18:      

24“BUT WHEN A RIGHTEOUS MAN TURNS AWAY FROM HIS RIGHTEOUS, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. 

25“YET YOU SAY, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? 

26“When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die. 

27“AGAIN, WHEN A WICKED MAN TURNS AWAY FROM HIS WICKEDNESS WHICH HE HAS COMMITTED AND PRACTICES JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE WILL SAVE HIS LIFE. 28“Because he considered and turned away from all his transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 

29“But the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Are My ways not right, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are not right?

THE new TESTAMENT IS THE REVEALING OF THE OLD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand where you are coming from. I was raised Baptist and a Calvinist at that. It was not until I understood the scriptures by reading them and CHOOSING to believe them that I was slowly set free from my teachers. Re-aligning your will to what the scriptures mean is extremely difficult. More like a war with your mind, which wants to sip over the scriptures. </p>
<p>You do not know the warnings in the New Testament and skip over or simply ignore them because &#8220;Surely these don&#8217;t apply to me. I am a Christian.&#8221; &#8220;Once saved always saved&#8221; right? Over and over the New Testament warns us about falling away, backsliding, sinning that keeps us from the Kingdom of God, etc. </p>
<p>Do you believe God changes? Malachi 3:6 “For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. </p>
<p>What does He say in Ezekiel 18:      </p>
<p>24“BUT WHEN A RIGHTEOUS MAN TURNS AWAY FROM HIS RIGHTEOUS, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. </p>
<p>25“YET YOU SAY, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? </p>
<p>26“When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die. </p>
<p>27“AGAIN, WHEN A WICKED MAN TURNS AWAY FROM HIS WICKEDNESS WHICH HE HAS COMMITTED AND PRACTICES JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE WILL SAVE HIS LIFE. 28“Because he considered and turned away from all his transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. </p>
<p>29“But the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Are My ways not right, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are not right?</p>
<p>THE new TESTAMENT IS THE REVEALING OF THE OLD.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 07:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-292041&quot;&gt;Vanessa&lt;/a&gt;.

Vanessa,

Thank you so much for your appreciation. God is our Teacher. (John 16:13).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-292041" >Vanessa</a>.</p>
<p>Vanessa,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your appreciation. God is our Teacher. (John 16:13).</p>
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		By: Vanessa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 05:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, ok so that makes you a young man. I had a feast day reading the articles and still busy with them. Thank you for taking the time in placing information on the site in order to help those of us who wish to know and lean more, (even if it means many fight and disagree) Its very time consuming for you but know its much appreciated.Thank goodness for the internet.The word says in the last days knowledge will increase, and by joe it sure has. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, ok so that makes you a young man. I had a feast day reading the articles and still busy with them. Thank you for taking the time in placing information on the site in order to help those of us who wish to know and lean more, (even if it means many fight and disagree) Its very time consuming for you but know its much appreciated.Thank goodness for the internet.The word says in the last days knowledge will increase, and by joe it sure has. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-292015&quot;&gt;Vanessa&lt;/a&gt;.

Vanessa,

Yep, I have been living in South for the last 70 odd years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/05/31/hypocrisy-overdrive/#comment-292015" >Vanessa</a>.</p>
<p>Vanessa,</p>
<p>Yep, I have been living in South for the last 70 odd years.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Thomas. I will definitely read all of them. Might I ask if you are in SA. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Thomas. I will definitely read all of them. Might I ask if you are in SA. Thank you.</p>
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