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	Comments on: John MacArthur &#8211; Blood of Jesus Liquid / Never applied in Heaven	</title>
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		By: Mary Mclocke		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[When John MacArthur can explain away 1 John 5:7-9 as far as the Blood of Christ &quot;not being the literal fluid&quot;, THEN I MAY believe him. Until then, I find this video (#1) as heretical as when he said that one can TAKE the Mark of the Beast and still be saved when the Bible ITSELF is crystal clear that it is the opposite.  Also when he can explain that Romans 13 tells us that the police are to take care of EVIL doers on this earth, and not those who are assembled to protect the lives of the unborn. Ignoring his Calvinism altogether, I&#039;d like answers to these three issues that are BIBLICAL and that come directly from John MacArthur. Keep in mind, I DO NOT expect to see that day come at all on this earth. PRAY for MacArthur. He not only went to Seminary, he RUNS one, and we &quot;little folk&quot; more fully understand God&#039;s HOLY and WITHOUT error word better than he does, in my opinion.  God bless anyone reading this.  Again, please pray for Pastor MacArthur. He is leading his flock into heresies, and they are eating it up. I watch Todd Friel (Wretched.org) IDOLIZE the man, and that worries me as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When John MacArthur can explain away 1 John 5:7-9 as far as the Blood of Christ &#8220;not being the literal fluid&#8221;, THEN I MAY believe him. Until then, I find this video (#1) as heretical as when he said that one can TAKE the Mark of the Beast and still be saved when the Bible ITSELF is crystal clear that it is the opposite.  Also when he can explain that Romans 13 tells us that the police are to take care of EVIL doers on this earth, and not those who are assembled to protect the lives of the unborn. Ignoring his Calvinism altogether, I&#8217;d like answers to these three issues that are BIBLICAL and that come directly from John MacArthur. Keep in mind, I DO NOT expect to see that day come at all on this earth. PRAY for MacArthur. He not only went to Seminary, he RUNS one, and we &#8220;little folk&#8221; more fully understand God&#8217;s HOLY and WITHOUT error word better than he does, in my opinion.  God bless anyone reading this.  Again, please pray for Pastor MacArthur. He is leading his flock into heresies, and they are eating it up. I watch Todd Friel (Wretched.org) IDOLIZE the man, and that worries me as well.</p>
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		By: Mike Evans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This web-page with testimonies of people who have come out from under the influence of MacArthur and his church is interesting (and unsurprising to me). I have come to the sad but sobering conclusion that MOST of what passes for Christianity in the world is cultic.
https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?14,76955]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This web-page with testimonies of people who have come out from under the influence of MacArthur and his church is interesting (and unsurprising to me). I have come to the sad but sobering conclusion that MOST of what passes for Christianity in the world is cultic.<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?14,76955"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?14,76955</a></p>
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		By: Lori Lindsley		</title>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dr. MacArthur teaches things about the Blood of Christ which are not revealed in the Bible.&lt;/strong&gt;

I know where Dr. MacArthur learned his false doctrines regarding the Blood of Jesus. Back in the fall of 1961 a friend and I went to hear Colonel R. B. Thieme, Jr. Thieme was teaching on the Blood of Christ. My friend and I sat four rows behind John MacArthur. MacArthur took notes throughout Thieme&#039;s lecture. Here is what Colonel Thieme taught John MacArthur about the Blood of Christ that night:

Thieme denied that the Blood of Christ at Calvary is to be taken literally with regard to our salvation. 

Thieme denied that Christ literally presented His Blood to the Father in Heaven (cf.  The False Teaching of R. B. Thieme, Jr. by Rev. Robert G. Walter).

The teachings of Colonel Thieme can be studied by obtaining his book The Blood of Christ (R. B. Thieme, Jr., Houston, Texas: Berachah Publications, 1974). I am an eyewitness to the fact that John MacArthur learned these doctrines from Colonel Thieme back in 1961. Now MacArthur has spread these false teachings throughout the churches everywhere, and these twisted doctrines are now enshrined in The MacArthur Study Bible. Today many so-called fundamentalists have learned Thieme&#039;s putrid doctrines from MacArthur. This has done great harm to the cause of Christ and gospel preaching in general.  I believe that it is part of the end-time apostasy&quot;

See article:  https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/08-18-02AM_TheBloodOfChristPI.html&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Dr. MacArthur teaches things about the Blood of Christ which are not revealed in the Bible.</strong></p>
<p>I know where Dr. MacArthur learned his false doctrines regarding the Blood of Jesus. Back in the fall of 1961 a friend and I went to hear Colonel R. B. Thieme, Jr. Thieme was teaching on the Blood of Christ. My friend and I sat four rows behind John MacArthur. MacArthur took notes throughout Thieme&#8217;s lecture. Here is what Colonel Thieme taught John MacArthur about the Blood of Christ that night:</p>
<p>Thieme denied that the Blood of Christ at Calvary is to be taken literally with regard to our salvation. </p>
<p>Thieme denied that Christ literally presented His Blood to the Father in Heaven (cf.  The False Teaching of R. B. Thieme, Jr. by Rev. Robert G. Walter).</p>
<p>The teachings of Colonel Thieme can be studied by obtaining his book The Blood of Christ (R. B. Thieme, Jr., Houston, Texas: Berachah Publications, 1974). I am an eyewitness to the fact that John MacArthur learned these doctrines from Colonel Thieme back in 1961. Now MacArthur has spread these false teachings throughout the churches everywhere, and these twisted doctrines are now enshrined in The MacArthur Study Bible. Today many so-called fundamentalists have learned Thieme&#8217;s putrid doctrines from MacArthur. This has done great harm to the cause of Christ and gospel preaching in general.  I believe that it is part of the end-time apostasy&#8221;</p>
<p>See article:  <a target="_blank" href="https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/08-18-02AM_TheBloodOfChristPI.html"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/08-18-02AM_TheBloodOfChristPI.html</a></p></blockquote>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484096&quot;&gt;Robbie&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank youuuuuuuu Robbie :clap:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484096" >Robbie</a>.</p>
<p>Thank youuuuuuuu Robbie :clap:</p>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let God be true.... and every man a liar.
This happens when we deviate from scripture and get caught up in new age literature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let God be true&#8230;. and every man a liar.<br />
This happens when we deviate from scripture and get caught up in new age literature.</p>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 03:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Shroud of Turin is another lie of Roman Catholicism. Bible Christians have always known it was a forgery, because God gave the Bible to save them from the fraud and superstition of those who use religion to deceive men and fill their coffers. Shroud believers take a close-up of the face, open the image&#039;s eyes, and create a Jesus consistent with Catholic icons and paintings.
Bible Proofs that It Is a Lie (that is if you read it) -  Jesus of Nazareth was not buried in a single cloth wrapping his body and head. He was buried with a linen cloth wound around his body and a napkin covering his head (John 20:5-7). These were two separate cloths, and the napkin for his head was folded and laid separately after His resurrection. It is impossible to have a single cloth with an imprint of His body and face. The forgers were skilled, but ignorant of the Bible. The Shroud is an obvious lie by this fact in the Scriptures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shroud of Turin is another lie of Roman Catholicism. Bible Christians have always known it was a forgery, because God gave the Bible to save them from the fraud and superstition of those who use religion to deceive men and fill their coffers. Shroud believers take a close-up of the face, open the image&#8217;s eyes, and create a Jesus consistent with Catholic icons and paintings.<br />
Bible Proofs that It Is a Lie (that is if you read it) &#8211;  Jesus of Nazareth was not buried in a single cloth wrapping his body and head. He was buried with a linen cloth wound around his body and a napkin covering his head (John 20:5-7). These were two separate cloths, and the napkin for his head was folded and laid separately after His resurrection. It is impossible to have a single cloth with an imprint of His body and face. The forgers were skilled, but ignorant of the Bible. The Shroud is an obvious lie by this fact in the Scriptures.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484069&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Stranger than fiction? You bet. The Turin shroud? AB blood type? Really?

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto FABLES (FICTION). (2 Tim 4:4)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484069" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Stranger than fiction? You bet. The Turin shroud? AB blood type? Really?</p>
<p>And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto FABLES (FICTION). (2 Tim 4:4)</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484054&quot;&gt;Karen Reid&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Karen

:giggle: Allll rightyyy then.

I BELIEVE in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, not in a piece of material.  You have faith in a piece of a material that supposedly represents the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I pray you will be in heaven with us. That you come to be born again with the knowledge of the Truth. (1 Timothy 2:4)

John 3:1-21 (KJV)
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother&#039;s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. 

I see from your google+ website you believe in Serpent Seed teaching and &#039;Reptilians&#039;, no wonder you believe in a GRAVEN IMAGE.

You said &quot;Don’t even RESPOND to me; I am blocking you.&quot;

That&#039;s the funniest thing ever...this is my website, you can&#039;t block me, but I can certainly block you.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/28/john-macarthur-blood-of-jesus-liquid-never-applied-in-heaven/#comment-484054" >Karen Reid</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Karen</p>
<p>:giggle: Allll rightyyy then.</p>
<p>I BELIEVE in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, not in a piece of material.  You have faith in a piece of a material that supposedly represents the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>I pray you will be in heaven with us. That you come to be born again with the knowledge of the Truth. (1 Timothy 2:4)</p>
<p>John 3:1-21 (KJV)<br />
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother&#8217;s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. </p>
<p>I see from your google+ website you believe in Serpent Seed teaching and &#8216;Reptilians&#8217;, no wonder you believe in a GRAVEN IMAGE.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;Don’t even RESPOND to me; I am blocking you.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the funniest thing ever&#8230;this is my website, you can&#8217;t block me, but I can certainly block you.</p>
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		By: Karen Reid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am SO VERY thankful YOU will not be in heaven with us!  You&#039;ll be FRYING IN HELL with your brother, John MacArthur and your FATHER, the devil!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am SO VERY thankful YOU will not be in heaven with us!  You&#8217;ll be FRYING IN HELL with your brother, John MacArthur and your FATHER, the devil!</p>
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		By: Karen Reid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Reid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I most certainly AM NOT Catholic, and have you researched the Shroud of Turin???  EXPLAIN how the image was MADE in the NEGATIVE!  It&#039;s the image of when Christ was raised from the dead-- you HEROD, STILL trying to deny His Resurrection!

Even modern SCIENTISTS do not know how the image was made! What a SINFUL, wicked uinbelieving heart and mind you have!  They have ALSO 3-D&#039;d the Shroud; explain THAT! Don&#039;t even RESPOND to me; I am blocking you. You are of your father, the DEVIL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I most certainly AM NOT Catholic, and have you researched the Shroud of Turin???  EXPLAIN how the image was MADE in the NEGATIVE!  It&#8217;s the image of when Christ was raised from the dead&#8211; you HEROD, STILL trying to deny His Resurrection!</p>
<p>Even modern SCIENTISTS do not know how the image was made! What a SINFUL, wicked uinbelieving heart and mind you have!  They have ALSO 3-D&#8217;d the Shroud; explain THAT! Don&#8217;t even RESPOND to me; I am blocking you. You are of your father, the DEVIL.</p>
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