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	Comments on: Stephan Joubert&#8217;s Censorship of Paul and Deconstruction of Christianity	</title>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2017 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tom.. I made sure he got the message.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom.. I made sure he got the message.</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2017 05:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/24/stephan-jouberts-unchurhly-censures-of-paul/#comment-456034&quot;&gt;Robbie&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Robbie. Thanks for your comment.

I can only repeat what brothers John and Peter said.

&lt;blockquote&gt;We [who teach God’s word] are from God [energized by the Holy Spirit], and whoever knows God [through personal experience] listens to us [and has a deeper understanding of Him]. Whoever is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know [without any doubt] the spirit of truth [motivated by God] and the spirit of error [motivated by Satan]. (1 John 4:6).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Brother Peter had a very high regard for Paul. If not, he would never have listened to Paul&#039;s brotherly rebuke in Galatians 2 from verse 11, Peter also said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Peter 3:14-16)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those who criticize and reject Paul&#039;s teaching are unlearned and unstable and are orchestrating their own destruction. It&#039;s as simple as that.

By the way, Paul received the Gospel directly from Jesus. Criticizing Paul is to criticize Jesus. That&#039;s why Peter says that those who reject Paul&#039;s teaching are in reality rejecting Jesus Himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/24/stephan-jouberts-unchurhly-censures-of-paul/#comment-456034" >Robbie</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Robbie. Thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>I can only repeat what brothers John and Peter said.</p>
<blockquote><p>We [who teach God’s word] are from God [energized by the Holy Spirit], and whoever knows God [through personal experience] listens to us [and has a deeper understanding of Him]. Whoever is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know [without any doubt] the spirit of truth [motivated by God] and the spirit of error [motivated by Satan]. (1 John 4:6).</p></blockquote>
<p>Brother Peter had a very high regard for Paul. If not, he would never have listened to Paul&#8217;s brotherly rebuke in Galatians 2 from verse 11, Peter also said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Peter 3:14-16)</p></blockquote>
<p>Those who criticize and reject Paul&#8217;s teaching are unlearned and unstable and are orchestrating their own destruction. It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
<p>By the way, Paul received the Gospel directly from Jesus. Criticizing Paul is to criticize Jesus. That&#8217;s why Peter says that those who reject Paul&#8217;s teaching are in reality rejecting Jesus Himself.</p>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a few words with a Hebrew Rooter regarding Torah keeping and while quoting Paul, A Charismatic Pastor came in and Pastor Kleinsmith said the following.

&#062;&#062;&#062;&quot;You are just quoting Paul. Because he was in disagreement with Jesus and the Church. Find me scriptures where Jesus or the church or disciples said something similar. It does not exist. Because Jesus is the law. He is the word. To obey Him you make the law complete. Faith alone doesn&#039;t get you to heaven
Fruit does. Action does. Response to His grace does. Because faith without works/actions/deeds is dead. Those are the words of Jesus&#039; brother. For example the church decided in acts not to eat meat offered to idols yet Paul contradicts them by saying its ok as long as you don&#039;t offend anyone. Direct disobedience. Of the 22 times Paul is called an apostle, 20 times he himself calls himself apostle. The other two times it was luke his friend and scribe. No disciple calls him apostle ...ever. Interesting. Thats why proper theology in context of scripture in called exegesis ... So in context the morality of the law can never fall away as it reveals God&#039;s heart for His children through His son Jesus Christ. And revelation says everyone wil be judged according to their works... Righteousness is part of God&#039;s grace but also my response through righteous action everyday.&quot;&#060;&#060;&#060;

Note: Some critics (apostates) of Christianity try and set Paul against Jesus. They claim that what Paul taught is not what Jesus said and that present-day Christianity is derived not from Jesus, but from Paul&#039;s teaching. 
We know that nothing Paul said is contrary to Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a few words with a Hebrew Rooter regarding Torah keeping and while quoting Paul, A Charismatic Pastor came in and Pastor Kleinsmith said the following.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;You are just quoting Paul. Because he was in disagreement with Jesus and the Church. Find me scriptures where Jesus or the church or disciples said something similar. It does not exist. Because Jesus is the law. He is the word. To obey Him you make the law complete. Faith alone doesn&#8217;t get you to heaven<br />
Fruit does. Action does. Response to His grace does. Because faith without works/actions/deeds is dead. Those are the words of Jesus&#8217; brother. For example the church decided in acts not to eat meat offered to idols yet Paul contradicts them by saying its ok as long as you don&#8217;t offend anyone. Direct disobedience. Of the 22 times Paul is called an apostle, 20 times he himself calls himself apostle. The other two times it was luke his friend and scribe. No disciple calls him apostle &#8230;ever. Interesting. Thats why proper theology in context of scripture in called exegesis &#8230; So in context the morality of the law can never fall away as it reveals God&#8217;s heart for His children through His son Jesus Christ. And revelation says everyone wil be judged according to their works&#8230; Righteousness is part of God&#8217;s grace but also my response through righteous action everyday.&#8221;&lt;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Note: Some critics (apostates) of Christianity try and set Paul against Jesus. They claim that what Paul taught is not what Jesus said and that present-day Christianity is derived not from Jesus, but from Paul&#039;s teaching.<br />
We know that nothing Paul said is contrary to Christ.</p>
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