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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500287</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500238&quot;&gt;James Sundquist&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks James. I will correct the typos as soon as I can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500238" >James Sundquist</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks James. I will correct the typos as soon as I can.</p>
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		By: James Sundquist		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500239</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Tom,

Your demolition of the Principality of Amillennialism is seismic because it totally refutes Sam Waldron&#039;s Amillennialism at:
&quot;End Times Made Simple&quot;: Amillennialism w/ Dr. Sam Waldron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hETwUsjJsjY

Ironically, Waldron collides with John MacArthur in another Ytube video.

Well done thy good and faithful servant!

James]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom,</p>
<p>Your demolition of the Principality of Amillennialism is seismic because it totally refutes Sam Waldron&#8217;s Amillennialism at:<br />
&#8220;End Times Made Simple&#8221;: Amillennialism w/ Dr. Sam Waldron<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hETwUsjJsjY"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hETwUsjJsjY</a></p>
<p>Ironically, Waldron collides with John MacArthur in another Ytube video.</p>
<p>Well done thy good and faithful servant!</p>
<p>James</p>
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		By: James Sundquist		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500238</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Tom,
Just re-read your article and discovered a handful of typos I think you will want to spellcheck and fix.
Thanks 

Blessings,
James]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom,<br />
Just re-read your article and discovered a handful of typos I think you will want to spellcheck and fix.<br />
Thanks </p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
James</p>
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		By: James Sundquist		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-500226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Sundquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Tom,

My highest commendation for your article equating Pharisees with Calvinism!  On a scale 1-=10 I award you with a 12.&quot;

Here are some of Calvin&#039;s vitriolic misogynist quotes against women:

“On the first post-resurrection appearance of Jesus to women rather than to men: “I consider this was done by way of reproach, because they [the men] had been so tardy and sluggish to believe. And indeed, they deserve not only to have women for their teachers, but even oxen and asses. . .  . Yet it pleased the Lord, by means of those weak and contemptible vessels, to give display of his power.”“On this account, all women are born that they may acknowledge themselves as inferior in consequence to the superiority of the male sex.”

“. . . there is no absurdity in the same person commanding and likewise obeying when viewed in different relations. But this does not apply to the case of woman, who by nature (that is, by the ordinary law of God) is formed to obey; for γυναικοκρατία (the government of women) has always been regarded by all wise persons as a monstrous thing; and, therefore, so to speak, it will be a mingling of heaven and earth, if women usurp the right to teach. Accordingly, he bids them be “quiet,” that is, keep within their own rank.”

A different translation of the last line is, “He therefore commands them to remain in silence; that is, to keep within their limits and the condition of their sex.”

...“Now Moses shews that the woman was created afterwards, in order that she might be a kind of appendage to the man; and that she was joined to the man on the express condition, that she should be at hand to render obedience to him. (Genesis 2:21) Since, therefore, God did not create two chiefs of equal power, but added to the man an inferior aid, the apostle [Paul] justly reminds us of that order of creation in which the eternal and inviolable appointment of God is strikingly displayed.”  JOHN CALVIN

I invite you to read my &quot;25 Reasons Why Augustine Was Not A Saint, The Weaponization of Christianity&quot; (Augustine was Calvin&#039;s veery foundation).

This is all going into my now 900+ page book exposing Augustine and Calvin where I will recommend Tom Lessing.

In Him Alone,

James]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom,</p>
<p>My highest commendation for your article equating Pharisees with Calvinism!  On a scale 1-=10 I award you with a 12.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are some of Calvin&#8217;s vitriolic misogynist quotes against women:</p>
<p>“On the first post-resurrection appearance of Jesus to women rather than to men: “I consider this was done by way of reproach, because they [the men] had been so tardy and sluggish to believe. And indeed, they deserve not only to have women for their teachers, but even oxen and asses. . .  . Yet it pleased the Lord, by means of those weak and contemptible vessels, to give display of his power.”“On this account, all women are born that they may acknowledge themselves as inferior in consequence to the superiority of the male sex.”</p>
<p>“. . . there is no absurdity in the same person commanding and likewise obeying when viewed in different relations. But this does not apply to the case of woman, who by nature (that is, by the ordinary law of God) is formed to obey; for γυναικοκρατία (the government of women) has always been regarded by all wise persons as a monstrous thing; and, therefore, so to speak, it will be a mingling of heaven and earth, if women usurp the right to teach. Accordingly, he bids them be “quiet,” that is, keep within their own rank.”</p>
<p>A different translation of the last line is, “He therefore commands them to remain in silence; that is, to keep within their limits and the condition of their sex.”</p>
<p>&#8230;“Now Moses shews that the woman was created afterwards, in order that she might be a kind of appendage to the man; and that she was joined to the man on the express condition, that she should be at hand to render obedience to him. (Genesis 2:21) Since, therefore, God did not create two chiefs of equal power, but added to the man an inferior aid, the apostle [Paul] justly reminds us of that order of creation in which the eternal and inviolable appointment of God is strikingly displayed.”  JOHN CALVIN</p>
<p>I invite you to read my &#8220;25 Reasons Why Augustine Was Not A Saint, The Weaponization of Christianity&#8221; (Augustine was Calvin&#8217;s veery foundation).</p>
<p>This is all going into my now 900+ page book exposing Augustine and Calvin where I will recommend Tom Lessing.</p>
<p>In Him Alone,</p>
<p>James</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496825</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496824&quot;&gt;christopher owen&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent summary. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496824" >christopher owen</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent summary. Thank you.</p>
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		By: christopher owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;The 5 real Solas of &quot; reformed theology&quot;

&quot; Scripture alone &quot; = philosophy alone
&quot; Faith alone &quot; = regeneration alone
&quot; Grace alone &quot; = forcible seizure alone
&quot; Christ alone &quot; = election alone
&quot; To the glory of God alone &quot; = to the glory of God correcting theologians alone &quot;

Reformed theology = Manachean gnosticism dressed in clever philosophical presuppositionally front loaded pre text for proof texts to explain why the Bible doesn&#039;t mean what it says]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The 5 real Solas of &#8221; reformed theology&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8221; Scripture alone &#8221; = philosophy alone<br />
&#8221; Faith alone &#8221; = regeneration alone<br />
&#8221; Grace alone &#8221; = forcible seizure alone<br />
&#8221; Christ alone &#8221; = election alone<br />
&#8221; To the glory of God alone &#8221; = to the glory of God correcting theologians alone &#8221;</p>
<p>Reformed theology = Manachean gnosticism dressed in clever philosophical presuppositionally front loaded pre text for proof texts to explain why the Bible doesn&#8217;t mean what it says</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496603&quot;&gt;Andrew James Patton&lt;/a&gt;.

Andrew James Patton. I really think you should read my article again because you are accusing me of things I never said. Here&#039;s a question. Are you saved, and if so, why do you doubt your salvation? I also think you should read Philippians 2:12 again because it does not mean what you think it means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496603" >Andrew James Patton</a>.</p>
<p>Andrew James Patton. I really think you should read my article again because you are accusing me of things I never said. Here&#8217;s a question. Are you saved, and if so, why do you doubt your salvation? I also think you should read Philippians 2:12 again because it does not mean what you think it means.</p>
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		By: Andrew James Patton		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[You rightly call out the hypocrisies and blasphemies of Calvinism.  Nevertheless, you also teach error.  First, because you do not confess that God can regenerate infants, even though God&#039;s Covenant with Abraham decreed that every male was to be initiated by circumcision on the eighth day, and that those who remained uncircumcised were cut off.  Second, you say that Paul never doubted his salvation, but that is not true.  Rather, Paul refused to judge himself, instead saying, &quot;I know of nothing against me, but that does not leave me acquitted; it is God who judges.&quot;  Rather than speaking with certitude about his own salvation or anyone else&#039;s, he warned people to &quot;work out your salvation with fear and trembling,&quot; while he crucified his own flesh to be conformed to Christ.  Our salvation is not secure until we hear Christ say, &quot;Well done, good and faithful servant.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rightly call out the hypocrisies and blasphemies of Calvinism.  Nevertheless, you also teach error.  First, because you do not confess that God can regenerate infants, even though God&#8217;s Covenant with Abraham decreed that every male was to be initiated by circumcision on the eighth day, and that those who remained uncircumcised were cut off.  Second, you say that Paul never doubted his salvation, but that is not true.  Rather, Paul refused to judge himself, instead saying, &#8220;I know of nothing against me, but that does not leave me acquitted; it is God who judges.&#8221;  Rather than speaking with certitude about his own salvation or anyone else&#8217;s, he warned people to &#8220;work out your salvation with fear and trembling,&#8221; while he crucified his own flesh to be conformed to Christ.  Our salvation is not secure until we hear Christ say, &#8220;Well done, good and faithful servant.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496262&quot;&gt;heather&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Heather :hi:

Yes, Calvinists have a track record of taking over other peoples churches, it happens all the time, so much so that Baptist churches had to split into Independent Baptist churches to try distinguish themselves from Calvinists - but even then, one is not guaranteed that a church that declares itself an Independent Baptist church is not Calvinist. 

I&#039;m glad you don&#039;t allow comments on your blog, you&#039;d be over-run by Calvinists attacking you from all angles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/10/04/the-modern-day-pharisees-calvinism/#comment-496262" >heather</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Heather :hi:</p>
<p>Yes, Calvinists have a track record of taking over other peoples churches, it happens all the time, so much so that Baptist churches had to split into Independent Baptist churches to try distinguish themselves from Calvinists &#8211; but even then, one is not guaranteed that a church that declares itself an Independent Baptist church is not Calvinist. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you don&#8217;t allow comments on your blog, you&#8217;d be over-run by Calvinists attacking you from all angles.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post.  You made a lot of great, thoughtful points.  I have recently started a blog against Calvinism (after our church was taken over by a Calvinist pastor), and I am adding a link to your post on it.  Thank you, and God bless!  (The blog is anticalvinistrant.blogspot.com)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post.  You made a lot of great, thoughtful points.  I have recently started a blog against Calvinism (after our church was taken over by a Calvinist pastor), and I am adding a link to your post on it.  Thank you, and God bless!  (The blog is anticalvinistrant.blogspot.com)</p>
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