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		By: JeanMarie		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-483909</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;[&lt;strong&gt;DELETED by DTW &lt;/strong&gt;- Dear JeanMarie, by all means stay a Calvinist, it&#039;s your decision, not ours. But you know what, I smelt a rat...and so I decided to check who you are, and lo and behold you wont believe who it is.  It&#039;s LT / LT77 / Frank and now under another name again &#039;JeanMarie&#039;.  But I must say thank you LT, because I had a strong suspicion you were a Calvinist (hence your baptist church you attend) and Calvinism and RCC have so much in common (hence you are &lt;strong&gt;so happy &lt;/strong&gt;to have your kid take her first communion in the RCC). It totally explains your warped eschatology on the doctrine of purification. You are bordering on &#039;stalker&#039; you know that?]&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>[<strong>DELETED by DTW </strong>&#8211; Dear JeanMarie, by all means stay a Calvinist, it&#8217;s your decision, not ours. But you know what, I smelt a rat&#8230;and so I decided to check who you are, and lo and behold you wont believe who it is.  It&#8217;s LT / LT77 / Frank and now under another name again &#8216;JeanMarie&#8217;.  But I must say thank you LT, because I had a strong suspicion you were a Calvinist (hence your baptist church you attend) and Calvinism and RCC have so much in common (hence you are <strong>so happy </strong>to have your kid take her first communion in the RCC). It totally explains your warped eschatology on the doctrine of purification. You are bordering on &#8216;stalker&#8217; you know that?]</em></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465413</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465253&quot;&gt;Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh dear..Janet&#039;s run away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465253" >Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Oh dear..Janet&#8217;s run away.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465253&quot;&gt;Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom said &quot;I am busy writing a critique of Paul Benson’s book “Bucket Full of Holes” and boy oh boy, I have never seen such a can of worms in all my life.&quot;

:laugh:

Please notice Janet that Tom  will be critiquing Paul Benson&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;doctrine &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; ok? And let us remind you that you agree with Paul Benson, so this will be a critique of &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;doctrine too.

PS:  Don&#039;t forget to give us your website address :smile:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465253" >Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Tom said &#8220;I am busy writing a critique of Paul Benson’s book “Bucket Full of Holes” and boy oh boy, I have never seen such a can of worms in all my life.&#8221;</p>
<p>:laugh:</p>
<p>Please notice Janet that Tom  will be critiquing Paul Benson&#8217;s <strong><em>doctrine </em></strong> ok? And let us remind you that you agree with Paul Benson, so this will be a critique of <em>your </em>doctrine too.</p>
<p>PS:  Don&#8217;t forget to give us your website address 🙂</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465241&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes please Janet, and while you are contemplating your actions, this is to let you know that I am busy writing a critique of Paul Benson&#039;s book &quot;Bucket Full of Holes&quot; and boy oh boy, I have never seen such a can of worms in all my life.]]></description>
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<p>Yes please Janet, and while you are contemplating your actions, this is to let you know that I am busy writing a critique of Paul Benson&#8217;s book &#8220;Bucket Full of Holes&#8221; and boy oh boy, I have never seen such a can of worms in all my life.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465192&quot;&gt;janet&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Janet

Do you have a website?  Would you mind letting us take a peek at your website?]]></description>
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<p>Dear Janet</p>
<p>Do you have a website?  Would you mind letting us take a peek at your website?</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2018 06:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465192&quot;&gt;janet&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi there Janet, Thank you so much for your loving comment. I really can feel the love coming from the depths of your heart. By the way, would you mind telling me what you mean by “love?” What is “love” Janet? Sending people to hell for false doctrines, for instance; is that love? Come now, be honest, and tell us whether God’s judgments on false teachers and their doctrines by sending them to hell unless they repent, is real love? 

And while you are trying to do that, you may also point out some examples where I spewed out hatred instead of love in my article “Charles Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers.” You keep on telling us that you love discernment ministries. Paul of Tarsus also had a discernment ministry. Would you like to hear how he called those who differed from him and dared to preach false doctrines? Would you? OK, here goes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Gal 1:6-10).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Brother John is even more severe in his judgment of false teachers. He says that whenever you call them your brethren, you are an accomplice in their evil.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:9-11)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You see, Paul didn’t go around trying to please people by telling them “Oh, I love you so much” and “You are my brethren despite your heresies.” No! he told them the truth. That’s true and pure love, Janet, and not the kind that you profess to have, dripping with honey, just to please people. For instance, you say you love discernment ministries” Where in the entire Bible does it say you must love discernment ministries? It says you must love the people who have discernment ministries and are trying to warn people of their heresies so that they may repent. You also keep on ranting about our wrong and false belief in a Rapture without even once showing us from Scripture that we are wrong. Do you call that love? Instead, you encourage us to read a book written by Paul Benson whose arguments are so full of holes, even a child can see it. In that way, you are misleading others by telling them to read books that are not biblical. Is that what you call love, Janet? I really think you should consider the possibility that you really do not know what true love is. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-465192" >janet</a>.</p>
<p>Hi there Janet, Thank you so much for your loving comment. I really can feel the love coming from the depths of your heart. By the way, would you mind telling me what you mean by “love?” What is “love” Janet? Sending people to hell for false doctrines, for instance; is that love? Come now, be honest, and tell us whether God’s judgments on false teachers and their doctrines by sending them to hell unless they repent, is real love? </p>
<p>And while you are trying to do that, you may also point out some examples where I spewed out hatred instead of love in my article “Charles Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers.” You keep on telling us that you love discernment ministries. Paul of Tarsus also had a discernment ministry. Would you like to hear how he called those who differed from him and dared to preach false doctrines? Would you? OK, here goes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Gal 1:6-10).</p></blockquote>
<p>Brother John is even more severe in his judgment of false teachers. He says that whenever you call them your brethren, you are an accomplice in their evil.</p>
<blockquote><p>Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:9-11)</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, Paul didn’t go around trying to please people by telling them “Oh, I love you so much” and “You are my brethren despite your heresies.” No! he told them the truth. That’s true and pure love, Janet, and not the kind that you profess to have, dripping with honey, just to please people. For instance, you say you love discernment ministries” Where in the entire Bible does it say you must love discernment ministries? It says you must love the people who have discernment ministries and are trying to warn people of their heresies so that they may repent. You also keep on ranting about our wrong and false belief in a Rapture without even once showing us from Scripture that we are wrong. Do you call that love? Instead, you encourage us to read a book written by Paul Benson whose arguments are so full of holes, even a child can see it. In that way, you are misleading others by telling them to read books that are not biblical. Is that what you call love, Janet? I really think you should consider the possibility that you really do not know what true love is. </p>
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		By: janet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love discernment ministries. I am someone who constantly speaks out against false teachings and wrong practices bcos i understand how God abhors them. but one thing i find with most discernment ministries, yours included, is the lack of love sometimes. sometimes i have written articles but my spirit is grieved over them and i don&#039;t feel the liberty to post (i have removed posts from my site) until i can rewrite them void of negative emotions. one thing i try to do is to have God bring me to where i seek to teach, and not just come against an individual. You fail to sometimes differentiate the person from the teaching. and you make general assumptions. A failed prophecy doesn&#039;t qualify anyone instantly for a false prophet. it could fall on the category of presumption (Deut 18:22). Hearing God is something subjective, which anyone can miss, and that is why we must be careful when saying &#039; the Lord has...&#039; Another thing discernment ministries do is to become heresy hunters, on the look out for someone to disagree with, holding their beliefs as the standard of truth. Spurgeon being a calvinist that he was had tolerance for arminians, recognizing them as brethren, which i think presents a better picture that some of your hard words here. if anyone individual has to have ALL  their doctrine right, all of us would qualify for false teachers in one way or the other because again i say your believe in cessationism and the rapture qualify you for false teachers according to the standards you use against others. You say one needs to understand dispensationalism to believe the rapture, where is your biblical proof? give the bible to someone who has never been taught the rapture, they won&#039;t event think such a concept exists. i was a pre-tribber but God&#039;s word (not some dispensational teaching) opened my eyes.   Why are my saying this? without love, discernment ministries simply become heresy hunters and hypercritics, and not very much helpful, except perhaps to those who already have a prejudice to certain teachings and teachers. i constantly find it hard to persuade a convinced adherent of a false teaching or false prophet to the truth, and i&#039;m beginning to see that the language used is important; criticism puts them off, but teaching in love opens their eyes. Instead of coming against the calvinist boy (by the way i am NOT  a calvinist), the best way could be to teach anti-calvinism, from Scripture. the best book i ever read on calvinism is titled &#039;the five points of Calvinism considered&#039;. the love of the writer can be felt in his words even though he mentions names, and acknowledges them as brethren, and i&#039;m sure any calvinist who reads the book would certainly have a rethink. so, i&#039;m pleading like i&#039;ll do to anyone in discernment ministries, the spirit behind the &#039;exposition&#039; is very important. we may have good motives, but do it wrong. our passion against false teachings does not exceed God&#039;s. it&#039;s not easy to let people drop their convictions, so let&#039;s seek to let God&#039;s love temper our words. am i saying we should give the &#039;lovey&#039; message popular today that seeks to offend no one? No. address the teaching!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love discernment ministries. I am someone who constantly speaks out against false teachings and wrong practices bcos i understand how God abhors them. but one thing i find with most discernment ministries, yours included, is the lack of love sometimes. sometimes i have written articles but my spirit is grieved over them and i don&#8217;t feel the liberty to post (i have removed posts from my site) until i can rewrite them void of negative emotions. one thing i try to do is to have God bring me to where i seek to teach, and not just come against an individual. You fail to sometimes differentiate the person from the teaching. and you make general assumptions. A failed prophecy doesn&#8217;t qualify anyone instantly for a false prophet. it could fall on the category of presumption (Deut 18:22). Hearing God is something subjective, which anyone can miss, and that is why we must be careful when saying &#8216; the Lord has&#8230;&#8217; Another thing discernment ministries do is to become heresy hunters, on the look out for someone to disagree with, holding their beliefs as the standard of truth. Spurgeon being a calvinist that he was had tolerance for arminians, recognizing them as brethren, which i think presents a better picture that some of your hard words here. if anyone individual has to have ALL  their doctrine right, all of us would qualify for false teachers in one way or the other because again i say your believe in cessationism and the rapture qualify you for false teachers according to the standards you use against others. You say one needs to understand dispensationalism to believe the rapture, where is your biblical proof? give the bible to someone who has never been taught the rapture, they won&#8217;t event think such a concept exists. i was a pre-tribber but God&#8217;s word (not some dispensational teaching) opened my eyes.   Why are my saying this? without love, discernment ministries simply become heresy hunters and hypercritics, and not very much helpful, except perhaps to those who already have a prejudice to certain teachings and teachers. i constantly find it hard to persuade a convinced adherent of a false teaching or false prophet to the truth, and i&#8217;m beginning to see that the language used is important; criticism puts them off, but teaching in love opens their eyes. Instead of coming against the calvinist boy (by the way i am NOT  a calvinist), the best way could be to teach anti-calvinism, from Scripture. the best book i ever read on calvinism is titled &#8216;the five points of Calvinism considered&#8217;. the love of the writer can be felt in his words even though he mentions names, and acknowledges them as brethren, and i&#8217;m sure any calvinist who reads the book would certainly have a rethink. so, i&#8217;m pleading like i&#8217;ll do to anyone in discernment ministries, the spirit behind the &#8216;exposition&#8217; is very important. we may have good motives, but do it wrong. our passion against false teachings does not exceed God&#8217;s. it&#8217;s not easy to let people drop their convictions, so let&#8217;s seek to let God&#8217;s love temper our words. am i saying we should give the &#8216;lovey&#8217; message popular today that seeks to offend no one? No. address the teaching!</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/07/27/charles-spurgeon-prince-preachers/#comment-453700&quot;&gt;Clate&lt;/a&gt;.

Clate, are you saved? Please tell us how you received forgiveness for your sins.]]></description>
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<p>Clate, are you saved? Please tell us how you received forgiveness for your sins.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally, I have no issue with Spurgeon smoking and drinking wine. What I think is silly are those who would give *him* a pass, but condemn an ordinary mortal such as myself from those habits. They&#039;re out there, these 21st century people who out-Puritan the Puritans with their condemnations of tobacco and alcohol. And yet, fast food and other things passed off as food (chicken nuggets, anyone?) are perfectly fine. So is obesity, but don&#039;t smoke or drink in moderation!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have no issue with Spurgeon smoking and drinking wine. What I think is silly are those who would give *him* a pass, but condemn an ordinary mortal such as myself from those habits. They&#8217;re out there, these 21st century people who out-Puritan the Puritans with their condemnations of tobacco and alcohol. And yet, fast food and other things passed off as food (chicken nuggets, anyone?) are perfectly fine. So is obesity, but don&#8217;t smoke or drink in moderation!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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&#062;&#062; for those you claim are lost in calvinism.

Are you a Calvinist? And is this why you are ranting at us?]]></description>
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<p>&gt;&gt; for those you claim are lost in calvinism.</p>
<p>Are you a Calvinist? And is this why you are ranting at us?</p>
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