Dear Jan-Hendrik Schreuder

Not sure which article you posted your comment. We had a glitch, so I have edited the settings and posted your comment under the following article that explains Biblical predestination very clearly for all who want to know the gospel truth.

You said our articles focus mainly ony reformers being freemasons. Not true, we only have 3 maybe 4 articles out of 100+ articles that focus SOLEY on reformers being masonic.

The above article for instance explains Biblical predestination vs. Calvinsts version of predestination.

By the way, you have fallen for the age old Calvinst lie that everyone that is not a Calvinist is Arminian. No, not true. Arminianism today is Methodism. John Wesley followed the teachings of Jacob Arminius, along with his Calvinist friend George Whitefield.

We are not not Arminian, we are bible believing born again Christians. And that goes for every redeemed believer who is not a Calvinist.

Calvinism is a cult that states that some were saved before the foundation of the world by this Calvinstic sovereing God, who then choses to send the rest to hell because it please him to do so.
All a person needs to do to realise they are a Calvinist (Elect before the foundation of the world) is to believe in Calvinism’s warped doctrines of grace (TULIP).

Calvinists are elect by their own sinful PRIDE (believing that they are so special that God would chose them, and doom others to hell for fun.)
It’s sick.

Calvinsts like to use this ‘soverignty’ thing to back people into a corner. Well the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is so SOVEREIGN that He gave everyone free will to choose.

I am recently saved, and have spent quite a bit of time on the doctrine of predestination recently as it something that I feel is fundamental to my belief and my understanding of the character of God, hence I want to be sure that I am correct in what I believe.

Your article and other similar articles mainly focus on the reformers being “masonic”, and hence your conclusion that their doctrines are designed to corrupt Christianity.

Just from a pure biblical viewpoint, it seems a lot harder to argue in favour of the Arminian view rather to the Calvanistic view of predestination.

I have not concluded exactly where I am with the two views, but from what I’ve read in the Bible, it is unavoidable that God has chosen and predestined whom he wants to. If one ignores all the “freemason” comments, it still seems that the Calvanistic view is more accurate occarding to scripture than that of the Arminius.

Dear Anne

The answer to your question is this, and a beautiful answer it is :nod:

By Jon W. Quinn
From Expository Files 7.1; January 2000

Jesus said “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:44). Many refer to this verse in an effort to support a man-made doctrine which says that only those whom the Lord “calls” in some mystical way can be saved. They will say that this calling is some sort of direct operation of the Spirit. Calvinism teaches that man is totally passive and cannot do anything until God zaps him with some special anointing, thereby enabling him to believe. Such an idea is foreign to the scriptures.

Our Lord does draw people to Him, and no one can come to the Lord apart from God’s drawing power. But this is not a matter of God electing to save some of us and condemn others of us arbitrarily. Consider: God wants all to be saved, and the reason some are lost is not because God has unconditionally chosen them to be.

For Whom Does God Desire Salvation?
The good news is that God does not desire anyone to be lost. No one! God is “…patient, not wishing for any to perish.” (II Peter 3:9). God is “compassionate” (Matthew 9:36; Psalm 86:15) God is “…just” (Romans 3:24-26). God is “Sorrowful” that many are lost (Ezekiel 18:23; 31,32; cf. Matthew 23:37). To suggest that man cannot respond to God’s gospel apart from a special anointing or calling that God gives to them that He does not give to all others makes God responsible for the lost being lost. But that does not fit with the Biblical description of God’s character and nature.

God made salvation available to all. Salvation is available for all men, not just a select few. Jesus died for everyone (Hebrews 2:9; John 3:16). God wants all to come to know the truth (I Timothy 2:4). The invitation is open to all, 24 hours a day. There’s no such thing as waiting on God’s “special call.” (Matthew 11:28-30; Revelation 22:17). He has already issued His call, and it has gone out unto the whole world. Any of us can choose to answer it, or not.

How God Draws People Unto Himself
The context of Jesus’ statement explains how God draws men and women to Himself. There is nothing mystical about it. The following verse in the context (John 6:45) reveals how God draws men unto Himself. “It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.” Note the words “taught” and “every man” (all drawn the same way; by being taught) and “hear” and “learn” and “come”. These are not mystical words. They are common, everyday words which are used to describe how it is that people are drawn to Christ.

What is it that is taught and heard and learned? The means or method by which God “calls” or “draws” all men is the Gospel. “And it was for this He called you through our gospel, that you may gain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (II Thessalonians 2:14). There is no special, mystical anointing of the Holy Spirit, but rather, the Holy Spirit calls men through the gospel; and it is the gospel that is the power (Romans 1:16).

God draws people unto Himself through the teaching of the gospel. The preaching of the gospel is God’s power, his drawing power, to save (I Corinthians 1:18-21). Therefore, all people, when they hear the gospel, at any moment, have the ability to respond to God’s gospel call. They also have the ability to reject it (Acts 13:45-48).

Sinners are saved by God’s grace when they respond in faithful obedience to the gospel that draws them to God (Matthew 7:21). God is always ready for men to repent and obey (Acts 17:30). It is those who will do so that God has predestined for salvation (1 Thessalonians 5:9). This is an important concept to recognize. God has not predestined individuals to be saved or lost, but rather, has predestined the method by which we are saved. If we obey the gospel, we are baptized “into Christ” (Romans 6:3,4). God has predestined all those “in Christ” to be “blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places” (Ephesians 1:3). But it is up to us as to whether we will obey or not.

How To Be Drawn To God’s Son And Be Saved
There are not many ways to be drawn to God. In fact, there is only one way to come to the Father (John 14:6). One cannot get to heaven through Jesus apart from obeying Him (Hebrews 5:9). Those who attempt to enter another way are counted as thieves and robbers and will be unsuccessful (John 10:1).

I have a question and I am struggling to find a Biblical answer. I understand we are NOT predestinated before we were born, and that it depends on us repenting and accepting Jesus, being born again and this changes our lives.

However in my case, I did see that the only reason I accepted Jesus and changed my life, had much to do with God working to show me the right path. I was raised in a catholic family which also had deep links to familiar spirits due to the ancestors being witches, masons etc. I was lead to read occult books by the influence of my mother. I always felt close to Jesus, always cried when I saw movies about his passion, but I was deep into the deception of the new age and occult teachings, such as kabbalah.

When I got even deeper in the new age, when I opened my third eye and started hearing demons ( who I used to think were angels ) I got completely lost into paganism. I even said I was now a pagan and I was believing Jesus was another ascended master. Deep inside my love for him was there, but I was just too brainwashed.

A set of events almost ended my life, I had 4 years of very difficult times due to the influence of the occult in my life and then finding out about it and getting out, which does not make Satan very happy as he felt he already owns you.

But what I mean is that there was NO human involved in me getting out of deception. It just happened, one day I found information on why channeling spirits was not a good idea, and all started falling apart. It was like an invisible hand was showing me the truth. It was when I was alone, when my ex boyfriend who was also newager left.. it was a very calculated timing. Not my family, not a friend… nobody took me out or told me to get out and accept Jesus and repent.

I have always had a clear feeling I was close to Jesus even against all odds with the influence of my family, and I have always thanked him directly for taking me out of deception and the condemnation of my soul.

I guess my question is why it seems with some people, the Lord never left them fall too deep into deception, while other people do.

I have told the Lord in prayer : why me ? I do not feel any different from my other family members to have been the only one in my family to be born again now. I pray for them so they open their eyes. While most of them did not fall so deep into the new age as I did, currently none of them are also born again Christians, but mostly remained as lukewarm catholics.

I guess I will know the answer some day when I see the Lord face to face !! Wink/

Ranner

I agree 🙂 Thank you.

http://www.prayerfaithGodsWill.CN

… is helpful to understand predestination. It helps us to see the spirit of the words “God’s elect” and “chosen by God” . And it explains predestonatioon in context, clearly and without jargon. As you reflect on it, you will find that it is sound.

Nico,

What do these passages in Scripture mean?

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.(Rom 5:8)

Unless only the elect are sinners (Romans 3:23), then Christ loved and died only for them? Really??? Stop your nonsense and stop mocking God and his Gospel. You are playing with fire.