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		By: Mike Evans		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah,
  Have you heard that a &#039;Me Too&#039; movement has started up regarding Jacob Prasch and his penchant for reviling and defaming people, particularly  discerning Christian women who he dislikes?  You may want to get in touch with this investigative team, or at least follow their progress. &quot;As a man sows, so shall he reap&quot;.My best to you and Tom for the new year, Mike
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah,<br />
  Have you heard that a &#8216;Me Too&#8217; movement has started up regarding Jacob Prasch and his penchant for reviling and defaming people, particularly  discerning Christian women who he dislikes?  You may want to get in touch with this investigative team, or at least follow their progress. &#8220;As a man sows, so shall he reap&#8221;.My best to you and Tom for the new year, Mike<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		By: Diedra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 14:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Real Jew

You will find out one day very soon that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is the same God we follow. You will find out one day and very soon that Jesus Christ the Lamb who was crucified who’s shed blood washes away away your sins (who replaced the Levitical sacrifices of the Old Testament) He will return soon and you will see Him face to face. Soon dear Real Jew Israel is going to be in the grips of a 7 year Peace Treaty (just follow the news, it’s happening right now) – the bible calls this the ‘time of Jacob’s trouble’ in other words the start of the Tribulation, where Israel will see a man come to them who brings them peace and they will believe he is their Messiah, but he is not, he is Satan, the antichirst – he is there to destroy Israel.

You are going to see miracles start to happen Dear Real Jew, God’s hand is over Israel and He sends Moses and Elijah to earth to preach to people like you Dear Real Jew, to tell you that the Jesus Christ that you reject is in FACT God’s son and the real Messiah who will return soon (within a few years). Jewish people will be prophesying, and having dreams and visions (Joel 2) all pointing to Jesus Christ.

You can deny Jesus now dear Real Jew, but you WILL see Him soon, no matter what you believe, think, or say.

Please explain these verses to us

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.

If you need to go and investigate your Torah please do.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Deborah,

Just wanted to say thank you.  I have never visited this site till now.  I must say that I have enjoyed this entire conversation so far.  Really love how you stand up for the Lord.  One day all will see the truth.  Problem is that it may be too late for them.  Keep praying!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Real Jew</p>
<p>You will find out one day very soon that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is the same God we follow. You will find out one day and very soon that Jesus Christ the Lamb who was crucified who’s shed blood washes away away your sins (who replaced the Levitical sacrifices of the Old Testament) He will return soon and you will see Him face to face. Soon dear Real Jew Israel is going to be in the grips of a 7 year Peace Treaty (just follow the news, it’s happening right now) – the bible calls this the ‘time of Jacob’s trouble’ in other words the start of the Tribulation, where Israel will see a man come to them who brings them peace and they will believe he is their Messiah, but he is not, he is Satan, the antichirst – he is there to destroy Israel.</p>
<p>You are going to see miracles start to happen Dear Real Jew, God’s hand is over Israel and He sends Moses and Elijah to earth to preach to people like you Dear Real Jew, to tell you that the Jesus Christ that you reject is in FACT God’s son and the real Messiah who will return soon (within a few years). Jewish people will be prophesying, and having dreams and visions (Joel 2) all pointing to Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>You can deny Jesus now dear Real Jew, but you WILL see Him soon, no matter what you believe, think, or say.</p>
<p>Please explain these verses to us</p>
<p>Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.</p>
<p>Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:</p>
<p>Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.</p>
<p>If you need to go and investigate your Torah please do.</p>
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<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>Just wanted to say thank you.  I have never visited this site till now.  I must say that I have enjoyed this entire conversation so far.  Really love how you stand up for the Lord.  One day all will see the truth.  Problem is that it may be too late for them.  Keep praying!</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is an excellent article by Martin Horan. To the point and yet in the spirit and love of Jesus Christ. Thanks Martin.]]></description>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 06:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill Randles says: 


&lt;blockquote&gt;Statement by Pastor Bill Randles 
I want to go on record as saying that I do not regard Jacob Prasch, our brother and gifted teacher as a gnostic. Neither do I see Midrash as anything but a biblical hermeneutical tool. I strongly advice Philip Powell to reconsider what seems to be being said in the above email he sent out. It is very important to keep separate real personal problems between brothers and serious accusation about doctrines. I urge all involved to prayerfully work out any differences in the spirit of Christ with forbearance, humility and love.    
 
Pas. Bill Randles&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 

Really?  Midrash is biblical?  

&lt;strong&gt;What is Midrash?&lt;/strong&gt;

If we go and read about Midrash here on Moriel’s website, we can clearly see that something is very very wrong.

The Midrash definition is extremely vague, so much so that Jacob Prasch says,

“Unless someone has been educated in Judaism, Hebrew, or theology, it is easier to demonstrate midrash than to explain it.”   

How peculiar, why can’t he explain it, are we not smart enough?

Strangely enough Wickipedia can explain it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Midrash (Hebrew: מדרש‎; plural midrashim, lit. “to investigate” or “study”) is a homiletic method of biblical exegesis. The term also refers to the whole compilation of homiletic teachings on the Bible.

Midrash is a way of interpreting biblical stories that goes beyond simple distillation of religious, legal or moral teachings. It fills in many gaps left in the biblical narrative regarding events and personalities that are only hinted at. [1]&lt;/blockquote&gt;


So it helps you “go beyond” teachings and “fill in the gaps” of the Bible;  that is very interesting – basically you are adding “extra biblical revelation” to the bible.  Jewish websites and others will admit Midrash is a collection of stories, allegory, history, scientific observations and legend.  Jacob claims the word Midrash is supposedly mentioned in the bible, as he claims here in this article:   What does the Word of God Actually Say About Midrash?.  But then we need to ask ourselves so is Enoch mentioned in the Bible, this does not mean we now can read the Book of Enoch as something inspired.

I went to go and look through the bible for the word “Midrash” and I can’t find it, but then after reading Jacob Prasch’s articles, the word “Midrash” does actually appear, as the word “story”  - this is what Jacob deems to be “Midrash” in the Bible.

Strong’s Number H4097 matches the &lt;strong&gt;Hebrew מִדְרָשׁ (midrash)&lt;/strong&gt;, which occurs 2 times in 2 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV (2Ch 13:22 – 2Ch 24:27)

1) study, exposition, midrash, record, story
a) writings of a didactic nature
b) midrash – transliteration of the Hebrew word
Root Word (Etymology):   Hebrew דָּרַשׁ (darash) – Strong’s Number H1875

meaning to resort to, seek, seek with care, enquire, require, search be it of God or of heathen Gods.

Hmmmm.  Really?  I think someone is a trying to make the Bible fit the Midrash.  Just because the word ‘story’ means Midrash, and the root of it means to ‘seek’,  it does not mean we can use stories and fables or ancient methods of study to investigate the bible.

&lt;strong&gt;Prasch states:

“You will never understand the Book of Revelation &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;with the kind of limited approach to biblical interpretation that is taught in Protestant seminaries&lt;/strong&gt;. Midrash is like a quadratic equation or a very complex second order differential equation, a thirteen or fourteen step equation. Some people take the first step of grammatical-historical exegesis and think the equation is solved”  [Emphasis added]“&lt;strong&gt;    The problem with the Reformers is that they only went so far&lt;/strong&gt;. They made rules governing the application of their grammatical-historical system in order to refute medieval Roman Catholicism, and many of those rules are still taught in theological seminaries today.  [Emphasis added]

- See more at: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Randles says: </p>
<blockquote><p>Statement by Pastor Bill Randles<br />
I want to go on record as saying that I do not regard Jacob Prasch, our brother and gifted teacher as a gnostic. Neither do I see Midrash as anything but a biblical hermeneutical tool. I strongly advice Philip Powell to reconsider what seems to be being said in the above email he sent out. It is very important to keep separate real personal problems between brothers and serious accusation about doctrines. I urge all involved to prayerfully work out any differences in the spirit of Christ with forbearance, humility and love.    </p>
<p>Pas. Bill Randles</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  Midrash is biblical?  </p>
<p><strong>What is Midrash?</strong></p>
<p>If we go and read about Midrash here on Moriel’s website, we can clearly see that something is very very wrong.</p>
<p>The Midrash definition is extremely vague, so much so that Jacob Prasch says,</p>
<p>“Unless someone has been educated in Judaism, Hebrew, or theology, it is easier to demonstrate midrash than to explain it.”   </p>
<p>How peculiar, why can’t he explain it, are we not smart enough?</p>
<p>Strangely enough Wickipedia can explain it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Midrash (Hebrew: מדרש‎; plural midrashim, lit. “to investigate” or “study”) is a homiletic method of biblical exegesis. The term also refers to the whole compilation of homiletic teachings on the Bible.</p>
<p>Midrash is a way of interpreting biblical stories that goes beyond simple distillation of religious, legal or moral teachings. It fills in many gaps left in the biblical narrative regarding events and personalities that are only hinted at. [1]</p></blockquote>
<p>So it helps you “go beyond” teachings and “fill in the gaps” of the Bible;  that is very interesting – basically you are adding “extra biblical revelation” to the bible.  Jewish websites and others will admit Midrash is a collection of stories, allegory, history, scientific observations and legend.  Jacob claims the word Midrash is supposedly mentioned in the bible, as he claims here in this article:   What does the Word of God Actually Say About Midrash?.  But then we need to ask ourselves so is Enoch mentioned in the Bible, this does not mean we now can read the Book of Enoch as something inspired.</p>
<p>I went to go and look through the bible for the word “Midrash” and I can’t find it, but then after reading Jacob Prasch’s articles, the word “Midrash” does actually appear, as the word “story”  &#8211; this is what Jacob deems to be “Midrash” in the Bible.</p>
<p>Strong’s Number H4097 matches the <strong>Hebrew מִדְרָשׁ (midrash)</strong>, which occurs 2 times in 2 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV (2Ch 13:22 – 2Ch 24:27)</p>
<p>1) study, exposition, midrash, record, story<br />
a) writings of a didactic nature<br />
b) midrash – transliteration of the Hebrew word<br />
Root Word (Etymology):   Hebrew דָּרַשׁ (darash) – Strong’s Number H1875</p>
<p>meaning to resort to, seek, seek with care, enquire, require, search be it of God or of heathen Gods.</p>
<p>Hmmmm.  Really?  I think someone is a trying to make the Bible fit the Midrash.  Just because the word ‘story’ means Midrash, and the root of it means to ‘seek’,  it does not mean we can use stories and fables or ancient methods of study to investigate the bible.</p>
<p><strong>Prasch states:</p>
<p>“You will never understand the Book of Revelation </strong><strong>with the kind of limited approach to biblical interpretation that is taught in Protestant seminaries</strong>. Midrash is like a quadratic equation or a very complex second order differential equation, a thirteen or fourteen step equation. Some people take the first step of grammatical-historical exegesis and think the equation is solved”  [Emphasis added]“<strong>    The problem with the Reformers is that they only went so far</strong>. They made rules governing the application of their grammatical-historical system in order to refute medieval Roman Catholicism, and many of those rules are still taught in theological seminaries today.  [Emphasis added]</p>
<p>&#8211; See more at: <a href="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way"  rel="ugc">http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way</a></p>
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		By: S.E.Brown		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-269186</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Real Jew wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;None of those thing point to Jesus, that’s just missionary propaganda. The Messiah would not be born of a “virgin” or be three g-ds in one, that is pagan mythology. The vast majority of Jews didn’t accept Jesus while he was around over 2000 years ago and we have no reason to accept him today.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dearest Real Jew: At the very LEAST, READ your own PROPHETS-I &quot;Triple-Dog DARE&quot; you! If you cannot be bothered to read YOUR own &quot;Book&quot;, you have NO right to complain about us Christians who not only embrace YOUR &quot;Old Testament&quot;, but also embrace HaShem&#039;s NEW Testament! We LOVE HaShem with all our hearts- can you say the SAME thing about yourself????

 Please, at the very least READ your Prophet Isaiah, and do so thoroughly, several times. I think you are AFRAID to do this, because in your PRIDE, you might be found to be WRONG about your &quot;belief&quot;.

HaShem said in His &quot;Old Testament&quot; that He would make you JEALOUS because of us Gentiles who embraced Him and His Christ! He predicted this very thing, and, lo, it has come to pass JUST as He said it would. You have NO idea how very much we Christians LOVE your Nation and most of all, your PEOPLE!!! 

My husband and I will never let a day pass without praying for YOU, the Peace of Jerusalem, and that you have the victory over ALL of your enemies who surround you and HATE you all with an everlasting hatred. I didn&#039;t have this LOVE until I became a Christian. You may hate us right now, but we will love you and Israel ETERNALLY, and we will have no rest until YOU have all of the Land that HaShem gave to you.

PLEASE READ Psalm 83 (Asaph&#039;s prayer and PROPHECY about your victory over those who would exterminate you). Also, READ Isaiah 17,Isaiah 19, and Ezekiel 38 &#038; 39, as they are PROPHECIES as yet unfulfilled about your enemy&#039;s DEMISE! These are ALL &quot;Today&#039;s Headlines&quot; in the news. Egypt,Syria,Iran(Persia),Rosh (Russia), and yes, even those &quot;Edomites&quot; known to you as &quot;the Palestinians&quot;! You will see, IF you open your eyes, and you will hear, if you unplug your &quot;dull of hearing&quot; ears.

By the way, my dear Mother&#039;s father was a Jew from Germany,whose family,PROVIDENTIALLY,came to America in the 1800&#039;s. I thank HaShem every day of my life that HE sent them here, because My Mother &#038; I became Christians HERE. Had this family STAYED in Germany, they would have been part of the SIX MILLION Jews who perished in Hitler&#039;s Holocaust!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real Jew wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>None of those thing point to Jesus, that’s just missionary propaganda. The Messiah would not be born of a “virgin” or be three g-ds in one, that is pagan mythology. The vast majority of Jews didn’t accept Jesus while he was around over 2000 years ago and we have no reason to accept him today.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dearest Real Jew: At the very LEAST, READ your own PROPHETS-I &#8220;Triple-Dog DARE&#8221; you! If you cannot be bothered to read YOUR own &#8220;Book&#8221;, you have NO right to complain about us Christians who not only embrace YOUR &#8220;Old Testament&#8221;, but also embrace HaShem&#8217;s NEW Testament! We LOVE HaShem with all our hearts- can you say the SAME thing about yourself????</p>
<p> Please, at the very least READ your Prophet Isaiah, and do so thoroughly, several times. I think you are AFRAID to do this, because in your PRIDE, you might be found to be WRONG about your &#8220;belief&#8221;.</p>
<p>HaShem said in His &#8220;Old Testament&#8221; that He would make you JEALOUS because of us Gentiles who embraced Him and His Christ! He predicted this very thing, and, lo, it has come to pass JUST as He said it would. You have NO idea how very much we Christians LOVE your Nation and most of all, your PEOPLE!!! </p>
<p>My husband and I will never let a day pass without praying for YOU, the Peace of Jerusalem, and that you have the victory over ALL of your enemies who surround you and HATE you all with an everlasting hatred. I didn&#8217;t have this LOVE until I became a Christian. You may hate us right now, but we will love you and Israel ETERNALLY, and we will have no rest until YOU have all of the Land that HaShem gave to you.</p>
<p>PLEASE READ Psalm 83 (Asaph&#8217;s prayer and PROPHECY about your victory over those who would exterminate you). Also, READ Isaiah 17,Isaiah 19, and Ezekiel 38 &amp; 39, as they are PROPHECIES as yet unfulfilled about your enemy&#8217;s DEMISE! These are ALL &#8220;Today&#8217;s Headlines&#8221; in the news. Egypt,Syria,Iran(Persia),Rosh (Russia), and yes, even those &#8220;Edomites&#8221; known to you as &#8220;the Palestinians&#8221;! You will see, IF you open your eyes, and you will hear, if you unplug your &#8220;dull of hearing&#8221; ears.</p>
<p>By the way, my dear Mother&#8217;s father was a Jew from Germany,whose family,PROVIDENTIALLY,came to America in the 1800&#8217;s. I thank HaShem every day of my life that HE sent them here, because My Mother &amp; I became Christians HERE. Had this family STAYED in Germany, they would have been part of the SIX MILLION Jews who perished in Hitler&#8217;s Holocaust!!!!</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-269176&quot;&gt;S.E.Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

S.E Brown

Hooray!!!  Another sister in Jesus has found my blog, I am so happy :)  *does the dance of joy*

Welcome to our humble abode, Thomas and I contend for the truth at all costs.  There are so many lost people being lead further astray by the millions of false teachers out there, we stand up for the gospel and preach the word that they hear the Holy Spirit speaking to them and listen to Him and turn away from the false doctrines they are following.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-269176" >S.E.Brown</a>.</p>
<p>S.E Brown</p>
<p>Hooray!!!  Another sister in Jesus has found my blog, I am so happy 🙂  *does the dance of joy*</p>
<p>Welcome to our humble abode, Thomas and I contend for the truth at all costs.  There are so many lost people being lead further astray by the millions of false teachers out there, we stand up for the gospel and preach the word that they hear the Holy Spirit speaking to them and listen to Him and turn away from the false doctrines they are following.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Leigh
Another thing I will add too, is Jackie Alnor, is NOT a very nice person, and I was not trying to defend her, she lashed out at me when I was still on Facebook becasue I asked her what was up with Missler’s false teachings and she accused me of defending him when I was NOT I was only asking what happened. So yeah, them lashing out is wrong, I am not defending Prasch’s poor and tacky display, but the folks on here are wrong too, as am I, I admit, I could be more graceful, but I just vehemently hate lying especially when I have heard other wise with my won ears. So yeah, I KNOW some of those people can be out right jerks and I have never liked Jackie Alnor too much after that, but it’s neither here nor there. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but it seems the folks on this blog don’t understand that concept either. Good luck.

&gt;&gt; Arn’t you just the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. (Let me use the same language you used to me). You go to Jackie Alnors website who is Jacob Prasch’s right hand woman (so to speak) and get upset when you SLANDER her for calling out Chuck Misslers false teaching and then get UPSET because she lashed out at you? My but you are a twisted individual to come here and attack me and insult me and call me names and resent me for questioning Jacob Prasch’s teaching.
I pray you wake up to the fact that just because you learnt stuff from Jacob Prasch that it WAS NOT Jacob Prasch who helped you, but the HOLY SPIRIT Leigh! It was the Holy Spirit who guides you and TEACHES YOU – not Jacob Prasch. 
John 14:26 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
If you knew your bible and read your bible instead of Prasch’s teachings you would know this, but you are now saying it’s Prasch’s ministry that is teaching you, when it’s JESUS MINISTRY and ONLY JESUS’ MINISTRY THAT IS 100% ACCURATE and the Holy Spirit that TEACHES YOU.” 
You came out of the charismatic movement to be hoodwinked by another man – Jacob Prasch. When will you learn to RELY and listen to the HOLY SPIRIT ONLY?
Leigh, this is your last comment. GOOG BYE.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Deborah- All I have to say is:&quot;You go girl&quot;! and most of all:AMEN!! Jackie Alnor and those at &quot;Rapture Ready&quot; are all WOLVES in Wolve&#039;s fur!! You have a fervor and LOVE for our Lord &#038; Savior, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and His Word that would make Paul and the other Apostles PROUD!
ANYONE who comes against you unrighteously will be dealt with by God!&quot;Be not deceived, God is not mocked.Whatsoever a man sows, this also shall he reap.&quot; A wise man or woman would NEVER DARE &quot;Mock&quot; any person whose first love is Jesus Christ and His Word! 
It is the LAST of the Last Days, and the evil in this world is growing stronger,as is to be expected. However, just because we can expect it, doesn&#039;t make it any easier to contend for the faith! 
On the other hand, we are sharpened and strengthened in our faith in Jesus Christ the MOST, when we are being persecuted.It&#039;s kind of a paradox, but nonetheless TRUE! I have debilitating illness which makes life a pure misery at times, but then I remember Paul&#039;s &quot;Thorn in the flesh&quot;, and how it made HIM depend upon the Grace and strength of our Lord, because GOD&#039;S grace is perfected in OUR weakness!
The Philadelphia Church in Revelation has &quot;a little strength&quot;, but &quot;little is MUCH when God is in it&quot;, as that beautiful hymn tells us. 
Jacob Prasch and all your other critics can &quot;take it up with God&quot;. They&#039;ll LOSE, of course-lol. God bless you and make His face to shine upon you is my prayer for you, my dear Sister!(((Deborah)))Love in Christ Jesus,Sherry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Leigh<br />
Another thing I will add too, is Jackie Alnor, is NOT a very nice person, and I was not trying to defend her, she lashed out at me when I was still on Facebook becasue I asked her what was up with Missler’s false teachings and she accused me of defending him when I was NOT I was only asking what happened. So yeah, them lashing out is wrong, I am not defending Prasch’s poor and tacky display, but the folks on here are wrong too, as am I, I admit, I could be more graceful, but I just vehemently hate lying especially when I have heard other wise with my won ears. So yeah, I KNOW some of those people can be out right jerks and I have never liked Jackie Alnor too much after that, but it’s neither here nor there. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but it seems the folks on this blog don’t understand that concept either. Good luck.</p>
<p>>> Arn’t you just the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. (Let me use the same language you used to me). You go to Jackie Alnors website who is Jacob Prasch’s right hand woman (so to speak) and get upset when you SLANDER her for calling out Chuck Misslers false teaching and then get UPSET because she lashed out at you? My but you are a twisted individual to come here and attack me and insult me and call me names and resent me for questioning Jacob Prasch’s teaching.<br />
I pray you wake up to the fact that just because you learnt stuff from Jacob Prasch that it WAS NOT Jacob Prasch who helped you, but the HOLY SPIRIT Leigh! It was the Holy Spirit who guides you and TEACHES YOU – not Jacob Prasch.<br />
John 14:26 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.<br />
If you knew your bible and read your bible instead of Prasch’s teachings you would know this, but you are now saying it’s Prasch’s ministry that is teaching you, when it’s JESUS MINISTRY and ONLY JESUS’ MINISTRY THAT IS 100% ACCURATE and the Holy Spirit that TEACHES YOU.”<br />
You came out of the charismatic movement to be hoodwinked by another man – Jacob Prasch. When will you learn to RELY and listen to the HOLY SPIRIT ONLY?<br />
Leigh, this is your last comment. GOOG BYE.</p></blockquote>
<p>Deborah- All I have to say is:&#8221;You go girl&#8221;! and most of all:AMEN!! Jackie Alnor and those at &#8220;Rapture Ready&#8221; are all WOLVES in Wolve&#8217;s fur!! You have a fervor and LOVE for our Lord &amp; Savior, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and His Word that would make Paul and the other Apostles PROUD!<br />
ANYONE who comes against you unrighteously will be dealt with by God!&#8221;Be not deceived, God is not mocked.Whatsoever a man sows, this also shall he reap.&#8221; A wise man or woman would NEVER DARE &#8220;Mock&#8221; any person whose first love is Jesus Christ and His Word!<br />
It is the LAST of the Last Days, and the evil in this world is growing stronger,as is to be expected. However, just because we can expect it, doesn&#8217;t make it any easier to contend for the faith!<br />
On the other hand, we are sharpened and strengthened in our faith in Jesus Christ the MOST, when we are being persecuted.It&#8217;s kind of a paradox, but nonetheless TRUE! I have debilitating illness which makes life a pure misery at times, but then I remember Paul&#8217;s &#8220;Thorn in the flesh&#8221;, and how it made HIM depend upon the Grace and strength of our Lord, because GOD&#8217;S grace is perfected in OUR weakness!<br />
The Philadelphia Church in Revelation has &#8220;a little strength&#8221;, but &#8220;little is MUCH when God is in it&#8221;, as that beautiful hymn tells us.<br />
Jacob Prasch and all your other critics can &#8220;take it up with God&#8221;. They&#8217;ll LOSE, of course-lol. God bless you and make His face to shine upon you is my prayer for you, my dear Sister!(((Deborah)))Love in Christ Jesus,Sherry</p>
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		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-253411</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-253198&quot;&gt;Real Jew&lt;/a&gt;.

Real Jew

Why do you swear so much? What does God say about it? Don&#039;t you have conscience?

Matthew 12:34  &quot;...for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/23/moriel-ministries-and-midrash/#comment-253198" >Real Jew</a>.</p>
<p>Real Jew</p>
<p>Why do you swear so much? What does God say about it? Don&#8217;t you have conscience?</p>
<p>Matthew 12:34  &#8220;&#8230;for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Real Jew

You will find out one day very soon that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is the same God we follow. You will find out one day and very soon that Jesus Christ the Lamb who was crucified who’s shed blood washes away away your sins (who replaced the Levitical sacrifices of the Old Testament) He will return soon and you will see Him face to face. Soon dear Real Jew Israel is going to be in the grips of a 7 year Peace Treaty (just follow the news, it’s happening right now) – the bible calls this the ‘time of Jacob’s trouble’ in other words the start of the Tribulation, where Israel will see a man come to them who brings them peace and they will believe he is their Messiah, but he is not, he is Satan, the antichirst – he is there to destroy Israel. 

You are going to see miracles start to happen Dear Real Jew, God’s hand is over Israel and He sends Moses and Elijah to earth to preach to people like you Dear Real Jew, to tell you that the Jesus Christ that you reject is in FACT God’s son and the real Messiah who will return soon (within a few years). Jewish people will be prophesying, and having dreams and visions (Joel 2) all pointing to Jesus Christ. 

You can deny Jesus now dear Real Jew, but you WILL see Him soon, no matter what you believe, think, or say.

Please explain these verses to us 

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.

If you need to go and investigate your Torah please do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

B.S. all of it. Read this website and learn the truth:

www.outreachjudaism.org]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Real Jew</p>
<p>You will find out one day very soon that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is the same God we follow. You will find out one day and very soon that Jesus Christ the Lamb who was crucified who’s shed blood washes away away your sins (who replaced the Levitical sacrifices of the Old Testament) He will return soon and you will see Him face to face. Soon dear Real Jew Israel is going to be in the grips of a 7 year Peace Treaty (just follow the news, it’s happening right now) – the bible calls this the ‘time of Jacob’s trouble’ in other words the start of the Tribulation, where Israel will see a man come to them who brings them peace and they will believe he is their Messiah, but he is not, he is Satan, the antichirst – he is there to destroy Israel. </p>
<p>You are going to see miracles start to happen Dear Real Jew, God’s hand is over Israel and He sends Moses and Elijah to earth to preach to people like you Dear Real Jew, to tell you that the Jesus Christ that you reject is in FACT God’s son and the real Messiah who will return soon (within a few years). Jewish people will be prophesying, and having dreams and visions (Joel 2) all pointing to Jesus Christ. </p>
<p>You can deny Jesus now dear Real Jew, but you WILL see Him soon, no matter what you believe, think, or say.</p>
<p>Please explain these verses to us </p>
<p>Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.</p>
<p>Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:</p>
<p>Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.</p>
<p>If you need to go and investigate your Torah please do.</p></blockquote>
<p>B.S. all of it. Read this website and learn the truth:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.outreachjudaism.org"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.outreachjudaism.org</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evidence through reliable witnesses both Jews and Gentiles and men of absolute integrity witnessed the resurrection of Jesus Christ...to even think that these writers would conspire to create something that would lead millions astray borders on insanity. Jesus spoke words that ring true into the very depths of man&#039;s biggest problem and curse...his wickedness and sinful nature.
Peter,Matthew and John were Jews and so was Saul (Paul of Tarsus).

Paul wrote ;

&quot;If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.

7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[a] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. 10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.

12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.&quot;

It is insane and unthinkable to even think that a man of Paul&#039;s education and priviledge in Jewish standing and order of his day to embark on a course that led to severe hardship, persecution and eventful execution because of his conversion. 

If it was not radicle and life changing would any sane man do this...evidence supports it was genuine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidence through reliable witnesses both Jews and Gentiles and men of absolute integrity witnessed the resurrection of Jesus Christ&#8230;to even think that these writers would conspire to create something that would lead millions astray borders on insanity. Jesus spoke words that ring true into the very depths of man&#8217;s biggest problem and curse&#8230;his wickedness and sinful nature.<br />
Peter,Matthew and John were Jews and so was Saul (Paul of Tarsus).</p>
<p>Paul wrote ;</p>
<p>&#8220;If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.</p>
<p>7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[a] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. 10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.</p>
<p>12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is insane and unthinkable to even think that a man of Paul&#8217;s education and priviledge in Jewish standing and order of his day to embark on a course that led to severe hardship, persecution and eventful execution because of his conversion. </p>
<p>If it was not radicle and life changing would any sane man do this&#8230;evidence supports it was genuine.</p>
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