Biblical Holy Spirit vs. Unholy Spirit of Fire

unholy kundalini demon of fireHoly Spirit vs. Filthy Spirit of Fire, the calling down of Fire from heaven over a congregation, or praying Fire over someone is the norm in the church today. It has come to  resemble the early heretic Gnostic churches. Religious ecstasy (or Kundalini) was to be found in the mystery religions of the first century A.D. Back when the Corinth church seemed to be a hub of pagan Gnostic knowledge and ran rampant in unscriptural and immoral practices; the Greek mystery religions had prophets who babbled in unknown tongues which were caused by a Kundalini awakening.

Below is a table explaining the differences between The Biblical Holy Spirit compared to The Kundalini unholy spirit that masquerades as the Biblical Holy Spirit.  This table is exhaustive and contains everything you need to know:

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Holy Spirit

Kundalini Unholy Spirit of Fire

Who is the Holy Spirit?

Who is the Kundalini unholy spirit?

  • The Holy Spirit is not a force or a power, He is God, the third Person of the Godhead.  (1 Corinthians 3:16, John 14:26)
  • The Holy Spirit is a divine person, a being with a mind, emotions, and a will. (1 Corinthians 2:10; Ephesians 4:30; 1 Corinthians 12:7-11)
  • The Holy Spirit is also omnipresence. (Psalm 139:7-8)
  • The Holy Spirit is omniscience. (1 Corinthians 2:10-11)
  • The Holy Spirit intercedes for us when we can’t pray. (Romans 8:26-27)
  • The Holy Spirit is our Helper, our Comforter and our Counsellor (John 14:16,26; 15:26)
  • The Holy Spirit will guide us and lead us into all Truth according to Biblical scripture. (John 16:12)
    • There is no extra-biblical revelation from the Holy Spirit.
  • A crucial part of the truth the Holy Spirit reveals is that Jesus is who He said He is. (John 15:26; 1 Corinthians 12:3)
    • The Holy Spirit convinces us of Jesus Christ’s deity and incarnation, that He is the Messiah.
    • He gives glory to Christ in all things.  (John 16:14)
  • The Holy Spirit’s role is that of gift-giver. (Corinthians 12)
  • The Holy Spirit is also the fruit producer in our lives. (Galatians 5:22-23)
  • An Esoteric description: Kundalini is a serpent goddess who lies asleep at the base of the human spine, coiled around the 1st Chakra, 3½ times.
  • The demons name is Kundalini Shakti, and ‘she’ represents the unfolding of the divine Shakti energy or Serpent Fire.
  • Kundalini is supposedly the energizing potential of life itself, a living goddess who enlivens all things.
    • It is Kundalini who creates the universe and knows Its Self as Creator.
    • Kundalini has been called “the face of God.”
  • After being awakened, Kundalini will be able to remove the knots of the major chakras, cleanse, open and develop the chakras until they are in fully blooming lotus forms – this to attain Yoga*
    • *Yoga (Enlightenment) refers to the different spiritual paths that aim for Yoga (union with Divine) – Religious ecstasy.

How do we receive the Holy Spirit

How do we get this unholy spirit?

  • We receive the Holy Spirit the moment we receive Jesus Christ as our Saviour. (1 Corinthians 12:13)
  • We receive the Holy Spirit by simply receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our Saviour (John 3:5-16)

 

** Through the false ‘Baptism of the unholy Spirit’.** The calling down of Fire (Serpent Fire).

** Being filled with the Unholy Ghost by Fire.

  • A Shaktipat is where one person’s kundalini is awakened by another who already has the experience.
  • Shaktipat only raises the kundalini temporarily but the demonic transference has taken place.
    • This is what is going on in the churches;  Kundalini is being transferred from one person to another – by blowing on someone, through baptismal water, laying on of hands, even holding ones hand over someone, but not touching them can begin a Shaktipat, etc.
    • Kundalini can also awaken spontaneously, for no obvious reason or triggered by intense personal experiences such as accidents, near death experiences, childbirth, emotional trauma, extreme mental stress, and so on -this is solely dependent on that ‘doctrines of demons’ one has been dabbling in.

Are there any happenings that go with the filling of the Holy Spirit?

Are there any feelings or happenings that go with this filling of the unholy spirit?

  • No, the evidence of a genuine salvation is you are now not controlled by your sinful nature but by the Holy Spirit. (Romans 8:9)
  • Chastisement by the Holy Spirit when we sin to repent of our sin and not sin again. (Hebrews 12:6-7; Hebrews 12:8)
  • Evidence of being born again is:
    • Obeying scripture, God’s commandments.  (1 John 2:5)
    • Respecting God’s pronouncements as authoritative in your life. Jesus Christ is your Lord and Saviour. (1 John 1:8)
    • No more love for the world. (1 John 2:15)
    • Living in daily awareness that Jesus Christ will return for His own! (1 John 3:2-3)
    • You are sinning less now than when you first made a profession of faith in Christ. You hate sinning.  (1 John 3:9)
    • Love for other believers in Jesus Christ. (1 John 3:14)
    • Praying and having prayers answered. (1 John 3:22)
    • Sharp Discernment as you find it easy to sort out the claims of various religions, etc. (1 John 4:1)
    • You have a conscious awareness that the Holy Spirit of God lives in you. He teaches you things from the Scriptures on a regular basis. (1 John 4:13)
  • You speak in tongues (gibberish).
  • Involuntary jerks, tremors, shaking, convulsing, crawling sensations.
  • Energy rushes like streams of fire or feelings of electricity circulating the body.
  • Moderate heat or Intense heat (sweating) or cold as ice, especially as energy is experienced passing through the chakras.
  • Visions seen or sounds heard, ESP – clairvoyance.
  • Trance-like and altered states of consciousness
  • Uncontrollable laughter or uncontrollable weeping.
  • Bliss, feelings of infinite love and universal connectivity, transcendent awareness.
  • Posture becomes fixed, you become paralyzed.
  • Utter sounds like those of animals, birds, frogs or of a lion or like those of jackals, dogs and tigers…
  • Intoxicated, your steps fall like one is drunk, speech is slurred as if drunk and and you are unable to do any other work.
  • You see Divine visions – angels of light, another ‘Jesus’
  • Future unfolds its secrets to you, you learn secrets supposedly from God.
  • The unholy spirit gives you unbiblical ‘hidden’ meaning of scriptures.

What does ‘Walking in the Spirit’ mean?.  What does being “Filled by the Holy Spirit’ mean?

What happens when we have opened our Third Eye? (6th Chakra)

  • The Filling of the Holy Spirit is an ongoing process in the Christian life as we grow in Holiness.  Also known as to “walk in the Spirit; It is to follow the Holy Spirit’s leading.
  • It is essential to “walk with” the Holy Spirit, allowing Him to guide your steps and conform your mind. (Ephesians 4:1; Philippians 1:27)
  • The arousing of kundalini is said by some to be the one and only way of attaining Divine Wisdom. (Genesis 3:4-5)
    • Self-Realization is said to be equal to Divine Wisdom or Gnosis or what amounts to the same thing: self-knowledge-(knowing that ‘I am a god’).
  • New knowledge is brought into the church, as self proclaimed apostles and prophets pronounce, EXTRA unbiblical revelations and unbiblical prophetic utterances.

Evidence or Signs:

False Signs and Wonders:

  • Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2)
  • If we need healing or deliverance we are to ask HIM DIRECTLY through prayer and He will heal us.
    • We do not need to go to men with so called ‘gifts of healing’ when we can approach Jesus Christ directly.
    • Yes we can have others pray for us (genuine Christians that is).
    • We pray in faith, but faith means that we are to trust God. We trust Him to do what is best and to know what is best. (Romans 8:28)
    • Suffering is part of life for both the unbeliever and the believer. For the believer it is often used by God in the development and maturing of our faith.  (Philippians 3:10)
    • Paul the apostle prayed to have his “thorn in the flesh” removed, but God said, “No” because He wanted Paul to understand that for in Paul’s weakness, God’s strength is made perfect. (2 Corinthians 12:7-10).
    • Do not conclude that because you have not been healed that you have an absence of faith, lack faith or have some secret sin that prevents your healing.
  • The Kundalini unholy spirit is a show and tell of signs and wonders as seen above.
  • Kundalini is a powerful healing force and will in a ‘counterfeit’ way heal you from any ailments/diseases or deliver you from drugs/alcoholism, etc.
    • You will usually feel heat, electricity, or ice when the satanic healing takes place.
  • Can Satan heal?  Of course he can! See this article for full explanation:

This Kundalini spirit is found in all religions across the world just under different names:

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  • The ancient Egyptians called kundalini power Ra, who is symbolized as the Sun because the Sun is the source of kundalini energy.
  • In Islam kundalini power is known as Salaat. Called the Swaying Zikr and Whirling Dervish.
  • The early Gnostics, like Pythagorus referred to the concept as ‘Pneuma’
  • Hippocrates was aware of it as well; he referred to it as ‘vis medicatrix naturae’.
  • Religious studies also note parallels in Quakerism and Shakerism.
  • The Hebrews of ruach causing the Judaic Shuckling or (torso-rocking prayer)
  • The quiverings of the Eastern Orthodox Hesychast.
  • The Chinese movements of Tai Chi or ki.
  • The ecstatic Shamanistic dance,
  • The Bushmen dance the Ntum trance dance.
  • The Tibetan Buddhist tummo heat as practised by Milarepa,
  • Japan‘s Aum Shinrikyo group
  • The Mexican Huichols call it kupuri,
  • The Dakota Indians speak of wakan;
  • The African Sotho of moya;
  • The Bantu of nzmbi;
  • The Australians of joja;
  • Indonesian know of petara;
  • The Eskimos of quaumaneq.

False ‘unholy spirit fire in action masquerading as Holy Spirit:

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Montanism

Montanism - unholy spirit

Montanism was an early Gnostic so called Christian movement of the late 2nd century, later referred to by the name of its founder, Montanus, but originally known by its adherents as the New Prophecy (or ‘The Phyrgian Heresy’) . The heretical movement spread rapidly to other regions in the Roman Empire at a time before Christianity was generally tolerated or legal. It persisted in some isolated places into the 6th century.

It was a prophetic movement that called for a reliance on the spontaneity of the Holy Spirit and spoke extra biblical revelation.  Parallels have been made between Montanism and modern day movements such as the charismatic movement, and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). [1]

As the name “New Prophecy” implied, Montanism was a movement focused around prophecy, specifically those of the movement’s founders which were believed to contain the Holy Spirit’s revelation for the present age.[2] New Prophecy departed from Church tradition as described by Eusebius of Caesarea [3]: “And he [Montanus] became beside himself, and being suddenly in a sort of frenzy and ecstasy, he raved, and began to babble and utter strange things, prophesying in a manner contrary to the constant custom of the Church handed down by tradition from the beginning.”[4]

The Montanist prophets did not speak as messengers of God but were described as possessed by God while being unable to resist. Montanists believed that the new prophecies superseded and fulfilled the doctrines proclaimed by the Apostles.[5]  Thus, they were seen as false prophets because they acted irrationally and were not in control of their senses.[6]

The Roman Catholic unholy spirit of FIRE

The church has gone so far with this unholy fire that it has literally ENGULFED the entire church. You need to be permanently on FIRE for God according to the powers that be (TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network), God TV, Rodney Howard-Browne, Kenneth Copeland, Angus Buchan, Rick Joyner, Ray McCauley, Cindy Jacobs, Deon Hockey, Kim Clement, Marc Bredenkamp, Leon du Preez, Harold Weitsz, et al.) as they spell out their incantation and throw FIRE, FIRE, and more FIRE in the congregations direction.  Those in the congregation who have experienced this religious ecstasy want more, and those who have not experienced it, want to experience it because they believe this is the Holy Spirit as work.

Unholy Spirit of FireUnholy Spirit of FireThe ‘Heart of God is now on FIRE and everyone is pushed in this direction by the church to get to know ‘God’s heart‘.  What they don’t tell you is that this ‘Heart of God’ is the Roman Catholic Sacred Heart of Jesus, and it is also the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

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The church as it currently stands is being shoved towards pagan ROME at a rapid speed. But in order for Pentecostals and Charismatics to accept Roman Catholicism they would first have to accept the ‘spirit‘ by which it operates. Rome’s EVANGELIZATION of non-Catholics started decades ago, and their hard labour has paid off.  Just as the ancient Egyptians viewed Kundalini as being Ra‘ who is symbolized as the sun because the sun is the source of kundalini energy. So does the Roman Catholic Church who, worships the Sun god Mithra (incarnation of Ra).

Let’s have a look and see that the bible says about “fire called down from heaven” in the New Testament.

Revelation 13:13 “he [antichrist] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,”

G4442 πῦρ pur (pïr’) n.
fire.
{literally or figuratively}

This fire is spiritual and literal. In the last days, the antichrist, the false Church, and it’s followers call down spiritual FIRE from heaven onto earth – this fire is satanic, it’s captures your soul with fake love and false manifestations that capture your mind. The antichrist will also bring down real fire from heaven in the sight of me to deceive them.

Was fire ever called down from heaven when Jesus walked the earth?  Nope, how do we know? Well let’s go to God’s Word…look at this:

During Jesus’ earthly ministry, the disciples James and John wanted to call down fire from heaven in judgment of a Samaritan village that did not welcome the Lord Jesus Christ.  What did Jesus Christ say to his disciples?

Luke 9:55- “But He turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

As we can clearly see from the bible, this spirit is from Satan, and is NOT the Holy Spirit.  Jesus had not come “to condemn the world, but to save the world” (John 3:17)

This ‘fire that is called down from heaven’ is from Satan, another spirit, an unholy spirit – that condemns you.

[Edited 5 Oct 2018:  I’ve added this to explain the above in more detail because of this comment: 2018/10/05 at 3:17 pm:

Please note I am not saying that God did not ever use fire to destroy wickedness.

In the verses Luke 9:54-56 Jesus rebukes his disciples for trying to call down fire from heaven, why?  Jesus would never rebuke Elijah for what he did in calling down fire to destroy wickedness, if He did He would be rebuking the Father Himself as God rained fire and brimstone down on Sodom and Gomorrah and surrounding towns. One needs to compare OT to NT. Different dispensations.

What do the words “You know not what manner of spirit you are of.” mean?  James and John in all their faithful zeal to Jesus Christ thought they were doing a good thing by wanting to destroy the wicked town that rejected Jesus by doing as Elijah did when he called down fire under OT Law. However the Apostles in training as I call them (Peter, James, John) had just recently seen Moses and Elias speaking with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration. So James and John, thinking they could copy Elijah, where wrong in their thinking, and were in fact sinning when they wanted to call down fire, because they did not understand and they were under grace and Jesus didn’t operate like that. That is why Jesus rebuked them.

Anyone who wants to call down fire (be it physical fire or spiritual fire to destroy the soul) in this age of grace has a spirit of vengeance and it’s not from God.

This fire is a counterfeit. It’s a fire that leads to the UNITY of all religions, the joining of Protestant and Catholic, a co-reformation – into the false Christian church we have today. ]

2018: Year of the Holy Ghost and Fire by Kenneth Copeland

Please read the full comment where I give a transcript from Kenneth Copeland on what ‘burning the chaff’ means in his dictionary.

Charles Spurgeon

And if you think calling down fire is limited to only Charismatics?  Think again.  The so called ‘Prince of Preachers’ of Calvinism, Charles Spurgeon himself called down demonic Kunalini fire.

Holy Fire / Divine Fire / Heart of Flame

Holy Fire

Charles Spurgeon: “The church needs fire to quicken her ministers, to give zeal and energy to all her members. Having this fire, she burns her way to success! The world meets her with the fire of firewood, but she confronts the world with the fire of kindling spirits, and of souls aglow with the love of Jesus Christ. She trusts not to the wit, and eloquence, and wisdom of her preachers, but to the divine fire which clothes them with energy! She knows that men are irresistible when they are filled with hallowed enthusiasm sent from God. She trusts therefore in this, and her cry is, “Come, Holy Fire, abide upon our pastors and teachers! Rest upon every one of us!” —The Superlative Excellence of the Holy Spirit #574 https://www.spurgeongems.org/vols10-12/chs574.pdf

Divine Fire

Charles Spurgeon: “Brothers, I beseech you keep to the old gospel, and let your souls be filled with it, and then may you be set on fire with it! When the wick is saturated, let the flame be applied. Fire from Heaven is still the necessity of the age. They call it “go”, and there is nothing which goes like it; for when fire once starts upon a vast prairie or forest, all that is dry and withered must disappear before its terrible advance. May God Himself, who is a consuming fire, ever burn in you as in the bush at Horeb! All other things being equal, that man will do most who has most of the Divine fire.” — How to Meet the Evils of the Age Chapter 4 https://archive.spurgeon.org/misc/aarm04.php

Occult teaching on Holy fire and Divine fire

Theosophy: “In a certain sense, the task before the disciple is the evocation of the “divine fire, Kundalini, and the infusion of the principle of Will in him by that divine fire; the golden light mingling with the red flame, to produce the colour of the mystic rose. The fiery aspiration of the disciple evokes the higher celestial fire, and the two blend in one, the holy fire which shall thereafter illumine and enkindle that disciple’s heart and life and every act.” –— The Theosophical Quarterly Volumes 17-18  1919 edited by Clement Acton Griscom pg. 226,  https://books.google.com/books?id=g3g1AQAAMAAJ

Heart of Flame (see Roman Catholic Heart of Fire above)

Spurgeon: “But we bless God that there are not so many of that sort, now, and we pray that the race may become quite extinct—and that every pulpit may be filled with a man who has a tongue of fire and a heart of flame and who shuns not to declare the whole counsel of God, neither seeking the smiles of men nor dreading their frowns!” — The Dumb Singing #2625 http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols43-45/chs2625.pdf

Occult teaching on Heart of Flame

Universal Brotherhood (Theosophical teachings):”Then One spoke – He of the mighty arm – He of the eye of power. And He inquired (speaking calm and low, and looking round on all the gathered throng) who would willing go into the world of flesh – to waken all the souls that now could hear, and teach to them the meaning high, sublime, of life; show them the Movement – flowing onward like a river vast, with but one source and end; teach them how to enter on that tide, and moving with Love – and for this Fire Divine in thee thou hast been called ‘The Heart of Flame.— UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD, Volume 15, nos. 7-12, pg. 439-440  https://www.scribd.com/document/37146710/Universal-Brotherhood-v15-n7-12 

Salvation or Deliverance

If you need salvation and or deliverance from this false unholy spirit or any other demonic spirit, please read this article:  Seeking Salvation or Deliverance.

Here is an excellent article that explains the history, characteristics and fruit of the Vatican Second Council New Evangelization initiative:  The New Evangelical – Evil fit for a New Dark Age.  See this article on the Roman Catholic goddess Mary (incarnation of Isis, etc) :  Mary Queen of Heaven – Whore of Babylon

A collage of images taken from the internet showing an explosion of demonic FIRE. Everything now involves this unholy FIRE;  from books, music, banners, posters, tattoos, t-shirts and background pictures for your pc.

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Notes:
[1] Robeck, Cecil M., Jr. (2010). “Montanism and Present Day ‘Prophets'”. Pneuma: the Journal of the Society for Pentecostal Studies 32: 413.

[2] Tabbernee, Prophets and Gravestones, p. 68.
[3] Tabbernee, Prophets and Gravestones, pp. 12, 37.
[4] Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History Book 5. Chapter 16. paragraph 7.
[5] a b c Chapman, John (1911). “Montanists”. The Catholic Encyclopedia. 10. Robert Appleton Company. Retrieved 27 June 2011.
[6] Epiphanius, Against Heresies, 48.3-4.

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301 Responses

  1. Emmanuel Peter says:

    This is like 1 Tomothy 5:1-10,Having a form of godliness but denying the POWER thereof’ listen to what Jonathan, among the early commentators are saying. You simple perverts the Bible to achieve your real mission of destroying the work of the HOLY SPIRIT.

  2. Emmanuel Peter,

    You have a wrong perception of what “power” means.

    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)

    The power of God is not to go around and act like a demonic clown slaying people to the floor and supposedly healing them from every conceivable sickness. Neither is the power of God to speak in strange languages, to laugh or cry your head off, to bark or howl like a dog, or to have your body shaken uncontrollably by the devil and his demons. Do you call that POWER. If you do, it is time for you to turn to the cross of Jesus Christ, God’s real POWER, so that you may be saved.

  3. irene stockley,

    How dare you speak ill of God and call Him a liar? He warned us not to believe every spirit and the take heed that no one deceives us. You are doing the exact opposite. I can assure you that anyone who believes the lies of the father of all lies, the devil is not living a holy life. I asked you to please tell us how you were saved and to this day you haven;t responded to my question. I suppose you would have asked John the Baptist, if he had been alive today on earth, “Why are you so conservative and against God doing miracles.” You see, John the Baptist never [performed a single miracle and yet God called him the greatest prophet of all time.”

    Tell me, do you believe there are counterfeit miracles. Do you believe Satan can perform miracles? If you don’t then you should tear the following passages from your Bible.

    Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:23-24)

    For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. (Mark 13:22)

    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (2 Thessalonians 2:7-10)

    What you and Dominic are doing is exactly what Jesus Christ warns us against in Matthew 24. You are saying “Look, here is the Holy Spirit, or there” whilst nit is not the Holy Spirit but another foul spirit of Satan.

    But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Corinthians 11:3-4)

    You are deceived and the best thing for you to do is to go to Jesus Christ in prayer and plead with Him to forgive you and to deliver you from your deception.

  4. irene stockley

    Roman Catholics believe in the crucifixion, burial, bodily resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ. Does that make you a Roman Catholic?

  5. dominic says:

    Remember when Jesus said. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Please stop giving satan all the credit for the amazing things God does. I get that your saying satan trys to mimic God. But your basically saying its all satan. Jesus gets no glory. And that upsets me . As it should. Stop giving lucifer so much credit. Yes there are false prophets. But not every prophet is false. Geez unharden ur heart. U know its ok to be wrong once in a while. I am wondering. If you have the fear of the lord in you which is the beginning of true wisdom. When you talk down to people i really wonder. Bye

  6. dominic wrote:

    Remember when Jesus said. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Please stop giving satan all the credit for the amazing things God does. I get that your saying satan trys to mimic God. But your basically saying its all satan. Jesus gets no glory. And that upsets me . As it should. Stop giving lucifer so much credit. Yes there are false prophets. But not every prophet is false. Geez unharden ur heart. U know its ok to be wrong once in a while. I am wondering. If you have the fear of the lord in you which is the beginning of true wisdom. When you talk down to people i really wonder. Bye

    What are the greater works to which Jesus referred? He healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, healed the deaf and dumb, exorcised demons and raised the dead. Have you ever raised a corpse from the dead? You have? Don’t be too excited about it because if you had, you would only have been doing the same works as Jesus and nothing greater. For instance, his disciples never fed 5000 people with five loaves of bread and two fishes, did they? Have you ever fed 5000 people with as little as that? You have? Well, don’t get too excited about it because if you had, you will only have been doing the very same and not a greater work than Jesus. However, in one single sermon, Peter led 3000 lost souls to Jesus. Why? because Jesus had gone to the Father and sent the Holy Spirit (not an unholy spirit). Show me a single instance in the Bible where 3000 or more sinners were saved when Jesus preached to sinners? So, hopefully you can see that the winning of souls to Jesus is much greater than the works He had done when He was still on earth.

    You say “stop giving Lucifer so much credit.” I am afraid that you are the one who is giving Satan credit because you are attributing to God that does not come from Him.

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaaiah 5:20)

    And please note carefully. The above passage is not talking down to people. It is a very serious warning because you are treading on very dangerous ground when you attribute something to God that does not come from Him but indeed from Satan. IN fact, you are disobeying Him because you are not testing the spirits as He says you must.

  7. dominic says:

    Again your saying. Everything is from satan. And giving God. No credit just like i said. Stop beating around the bush. What has the holy spirit done through ppl? You just say not of it is from him and its all from satan. So God. Has done nothing lately only satan? You are the one treading on dangerous ground. Not to mention like almost everyone on this site is self righteous. Have fun explaining all this to God on judgement day. Ill keep going forward to work in the gifts of the spirit as paul and Jesus talked about. You can remain religious ,lukewarm,do nothing and say its all satan. And not save lost souls because you would rather argue with bretheren. I get so tired of self righteous ppl. Im probably doing more on my path,but i dont care ir boast AND YOU DO NOTHING SAVE NO SOULS AND COME WITH YOUR INFALLIBLE”””” DOCTRINE BLAH BLAH. I DONT CARE. ill keep seeking Jesus. And getting the most from this life. O we have to delete the comment theres caps lock, this doesnt agree with my theology i have to. delete it. Theres a reason ppl are different in the body of Christ not everyone thinks like you. Has your same gifts and has to do everything like you. This is why we have a dead church laidecean of the revelations book right now because everyone wants to be politically correct. so to speak. Wake up and step out in faith. Not everything. Is what u think the holy spirit guides us to do more than what the. bible says. We follow his word and the holy spirit aligned with his word. Urgh. Conversation over. Why dont you go spread the gospel And save a soul today because your not helping anyone here you are puting them back into religous bondage. Again.be blessed. Goodbye!

  8. dominic wrote,

    Again your saying. Everything is from satan.

    None of us on this site ever said or even suggested that everything is of Satan. You are lying (John 8:44). We are trying to encourage you to test the spirits but you don’t seem to want to obey Jesus Christ. So please take your poison somewhere else and don’t comment here again. The following applies,

    For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Ti 3:6-7)

  9. dominic says:

    Your a peice….of…..f*****……s**t. ok? [Edited by DTW]

    Luke 11:13.If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? Jesus said that!!!!!!!!!!!!

    James 4:2-3. 2 You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them. Yet you don’t have what you want because you don’t ask God for it. 3 And even when you ask, you don’t get it because your motives are all wrong—you want only what will give you pleasure.

    Hebrews 12:29
    For our God is a consuming fire.

    Deuteronomy 4:24
    For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
    Genesis 21:6
    And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me.

    2 Timothy 1:7
    For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

  10. Kevin says:

    Dear Discerning the World

    I have some questions on this topic maybe you could assist me with

    If someone has had a full kundalini awakening/rising and achieved this false enlightenment could they still come to know Christ and reverse the effects or is it a sealed deal and they are unforgivable (maybe a mark of the beast type thing)?

    Do you know anyone who has personally experienced the full kundalini and experienced the baptism of this false light?

    Thank you in advance for any insight God bless

  11. goku says:

    6He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Jesus said that ok?? He that believes. Them that believe. That is us. Try reading the bible. Stop false teaching

  12. Hi Kevin,

    Have you read Dave Hunt ‘s book “Death of a Guru The Personal Testimony of Rabi Maharaj.” It answers your question.

  13. goku,

    Do you believe that the devil is capable of healing the sick, make people speak in tongues, take up serpents without being bitten?

    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    (2 Th 2:7-12)

    But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
    (Mat 12:39)

    Indeed, God works miracles and so does Satan and that is why we must discern between the true and the false. The things they call miracles in most churches today is of the devil and not of God.

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
    (Isa 5:20)

  14. Kevin says:

    Thank you for the reply. I have not read it but I will look into it.

    Another question, if one obtained this satanic ‘godhood’ could they still come to know Christ and be forgiven or would they be eternally damned? I don’t know if this is the same thing but I am curious.

    Thanks for any help and thank you for the resources of this website God bless

  15. Kevin,

    In Eastern mysticism it is not about obtaining or attaining godhood, it is about becoming aware that you are already a god. Awareness or enlightenment as it is also called, comes through the practice of Yoga, meditation, silence, solitude, contemplative spirituality etc. The WOF movement teaches the very same heresy. Although they do not practice the things I mentioned, they do something similar called slain-in-the-spirit. Benny Hinn says “I am a little Messiah.” Maurice Cerullo said, “You are not looking at Maurice Cerullo, you are looking at Jesus.” You may ask, “How does Eastern mystic practices, slain-in-the-spirit and hypnotism tie in with one another?” The Bible warns us to be sober-minded (1 Peter 5:8), always alert and never to surrender our own control over our mind. Sir John Eccles, a Nobel Prize laureate, once said, “The brain is a machine a ghost can operate” meaning that the brain itself is not the thing that makes us think. Our spirit and soul do the thinking. The brain is merely the instrument which enables us to act upon our innermost thoughts (in the spirit and soul) and to manifest it in the physical realm. That’s why the Bible says, “For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: (Proverbs 23:7a). We are what we think. Christians are exhorted to think on the things which are above in heaven (Philippians 4:8). For Satan to make you think or become aware that you are a god, He must take control of your mind so that he and his demons can transmit their lies and doctrines into your mind (soul). (1 Tim 4:1). This is precisely where eastern mystical practices like Yoga, contemplative prayer, the WOF slain-in-the-spirt and hypnotism come in. Whoever participates in these things or allows others to manipulate their mind, lose control of their mind and open themselves to the influence of demons. And what do they say? “You are a god.” This is the same old lie Satan imprinted on Eve’s mind in the Garden of Eden – “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” (Gen 3:4-5).

    Now, to answer your question. ” if one obtained this satanic ‘godhood’ could they still come to know Christ and be forgiven or would they be eternally damned?” The short answer is “unless they repent and believe the Gospel (Mark 1:15) they will be damned. It is very interesting to note that the word “repent” is metanoia” which in Greek means to begin to think differently about yourself with an intent to change. Remember Proverbs 23:7a? Your thoughts which had been poisoned by Satan and his demons must do a 180 degree about turn. You must begin to think differently about God and yourself. The adage that you can only truly know yourself when you begin to know God is true (John 17 :3). It is in his light that we see the light. Sadly, most people prefer to remain in darkness (John 3:19). How do people who had been duped by Satan to believe they are gods have their minds changed so that they may be saved? Here is the answer:

    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Rom 10:17)

    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (Joh 8:32)

    Hope that answers you question.

  16. Kevin says:

    Okay thank you for the reply. This happened to me from taking psychoactive drugs and going into a trance state. I saw lots of light and infinity signs and felt an eternal state and thought I was a god. I want to change but I keep getting intrusive thoughts of old ways of thinking. I feel like I can’t stop it. Even when I read the bible I get intrusive blasphemous thoughts. Also I’m in a constant slight altered state all the time since that happened. Could this be the mark of the beast

  17. Kevin says:

    Adding onto my previous comment, did this change my DNA as alchemists suggest? Making me no longer covered by the blood of Jesus? I appreciate any insight thank you

  18. Kevin wrote,

    Adding onto my previous comment, did this change my DNA as alchemists suggest? Making me no longer covered by the blood of Jesus? I appreciate any insight thank you

    Your questions seem to suggest that you don’t know what it means to be saved. Are you? Paul says,

    Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. (2 Co 13:5)

    If you were truly saved you would not believe the rubbish that alchemists can change your DNA.

    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. (2 Co 5:17)

    The new man in Christ has the mind of Christ (1 Cor 2:16) and therefore thinks like Christ. His mind is renewed and will not believe strange things.

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. (John 10:1-5)

    If you listen to and follow the voice of strangers, you are not saved. Period!

  19. Deborah (discerning the world) says:

    Dear Kevin

    Please read the article on salvation and deliverance. You need salvation my dear friend and deliverance by Jesus Christ.

    Here is the link: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/seeking-deliverance/

  20. Hi Kevin

    >> If someone has had a full kundalini awakening/rising and achieved this false enlightenment could they still come to know Christ and reverse the effects or is it a sealed deal and they are unforgivable (maybe a mark of the beast type thing)?

    Satan actually has no hold over you, he lies and tells you that if you join him you are permanently his, this is a lie out of the pit of hell. If you decide that you want to follow Jesus Christ from now on till forever and you want to make Jesus Christ your Lord and Saviour and you believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sin, was buried and rose again and is seated at the right hand of our Heavenly Father then you will be saved and no more will Satan have a hold over you.

    >> Do you know anyone who has personally experienced the full kundalini and experienced the baptism of this false light?

    Yes, I do some people on this website have emailed me and told me their story and how Jesus Christ saved them. I also have a personal experience of being in the occult for many many years and Jesus Christ saved me and I was delivered from ALL satanic bondage in my life.

    Kevin, if you want out, do not procrastinate and call on Jesus Christ to save you. Jesus Christ is your only way out.

  21. Kevin

    >> Another question, if one obtained this satanic ‘godhood’ could they still come to know Christ and be forgiven or would they be eternally damned? I don’t know if this is the same thing but I am curious.

    Again, you will be saved if you call out to Jesus Christ for salvation and repent of all your sin and Jesus Christ WILL forgive you immediately. As Tom mentioned, genuine repentance comes with a ‘changing of one’s ways’. You WILL WANT to change your ways and you will ask Jesus Christ to help you change your ways.

  22. Kevin

    >> Could this be the mark of the beast

    Nope, the mark of the beast is something that takes place during the Tribulation period that last for 7 years. The antiChrist establishes this mark that people have to take and you wont be able to buy or sell without it.

    >> Even when I read the bible I get intrusive blasphemous thoughts.

    Kevin I think you need to be saved and delivered from all this demonic affliction. I have given you the link, but here is it again… https://www.discerningtheworld.com/seeking-deliverance/ it’s all up to you Kevin to make the first move. If you love Jesus Christ with all your heart and the Holy Spirit is showing you the truth as to the false teaching you have been caught up in, then you can and will be set free if you call out to Jesus Christ to be saved.

  23. Kevin

    >> Adding onto my previous comment, did this change my DNA as alchemists suggest? Making me no longer covered by the blood of Jesus?

    No your DNA can not change – again that is a satanic lie. You must realise that all Satan can do it lie, so everything that is occult is a lie.

  24. dominic

    You said:

    Your a peice….of…..f*****……s**t. ok? [Edited by DTW]

    Luke 11:13.If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? Jesus said that!!!!!!!!!!!!

    James 4:2-3. 2 You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them. Yet you don’t have what you want because you don’t ask God for it. 3 And even when you ask, you don’t get it because your motives are all wrong—you want only what will give you pleasure.

    Hebrews 12:29
    For our God is a consuming fire.

    Deuteronomy 4:24
    For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
    Genesis 21:6
    And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me.

    2 Timothy 1:7
    For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

    Yes we can clearly see through your language what vile spirit lies in your heart. You swear at us in the most foul language and quote scripture at the same time. That sounds exactly like something Satan would do. I hope when people read your comment they will see that this ‘fire, kundilini, false holy spirit’ is nothing but pure evil.

    Matthew 15:10-11 “10And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.”

    Luke 6:45 “A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”

  25. irene stockley says:

    hi deb have you been saved and what was you taught what church do you attend and what version bile do you read

  26. Kevin says:

    Thank you for taking the time to reply to me Deborah. It means a lot and I will do as it says on the link posted when I get home from work. My central nervous system just feels super sensitive (I get tingles when I walk into the sun or hear certain noises or anything sometimes even when I pray I get tingles on my head) and my heart feels stonish/hard and empty it feels I have no soul. If someone happened to make fun of the trinity including the Holy Spirit before they believed would that be an unforgivable sin?

  27. Josh says:

    Your site just causes division and is clearly an attempt to paint over a bad experience you must of had. May God have mercy on you.

  28. Josh wrote,

    Your site just causes division and is clearly an attempt to paint over a bad experience you must of had. May God have mercy on you.

    I really think you should start to read your Bible.

    For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. (1 Co 11:18-19)

  29. irene

    Please read this website for all info you require, this is if you want to know the gospel truth. Telling you that I read the KJV and NKJV is not going to make any difference in your relationship with God.

  30. Kevin

    The unforgivable sin is not making fun of the trinity of Holy Spirit, this is another lie the church like to burden their congregation with. The unforgivable sin was those who witnessed Jesus Christ (in the bible) perform wondrous miracles and they rejected Him and cursed His name after he gave them a sign that He was the Son of God – that was the unforgivable sin in the bible.

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