Hi Filemon Brandao Jr.

Thank you for your question. There are a long answer and a short answer to it. If you read carefully what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52.

The word “mystery” (musterion) does not mean that what Paul revealed to the church (the rapture) is unintelligible. It simply means that what had hitherto been unknown was revealed to the church at that time. Paul was God’s chosen vessel to reveal the mystery of the rapture and not the other apostles.

Stephen J

Where will Christ be seated on the throne of his father David – in heaven or on earth (Jerusalem)? (Luke 1:32). :nope:

Dear Steve

Your comment is very confusing. Both of them in fact.

For instance you say “Amillienianisim only started with The DARBY translation and his notes in that bible,”

Darby didn’t invent Amillienianism. The doctrine has been around for hundreds of years. John Calvin was Amillenianal (under different terminology) a few hundred years before you say Darby ‘started’ it.

St Augustine the father of the Roman Catholic church was an Amillienianist

The Roman Catholic church father Augustine of Hippo is without a doubt the central figure associated with the eschatological view of amillennialism. His viewpoint became the prevailing doctrine of the Roman Church, and it was adopted with variations by most of the Protestant Reformers along with many other teachings of Augustine. —http://www.danielsecomb.com/augustine-and-the-advent-of-amillennialism/#_ftn1

Augustine, who blended Christianity with Neo-Platonist philosophies, is notonly responsible for many of the errors of Roman Catholicism, but also for many of the teachings found in its reformation. Much of Catholicism was retained and merely redefined in the Protestant Reformation. many of its denominations today are merely degrees of separation from its mother, the Roman Catholic church. — http://www.calvinismnomore.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/My_Journey_into_Calvinism.pdf

I’ve never read Darby’s bible or his notes, only ever read the KJV, NKJV and AMP, and used Hebrew and Greek for better understanding.

Have you ever read John Calvin’s Institutes of the Christian Religion Originally published in 1536 and base your doctrine on T.U.L.I.P? In other words, are you a Calvinist?

You said “If one believes in the Fact (Doctrine) of total depravity they are suffering from delusions of grandeur. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. A DEAD person can be nothing but ‘depraved’.And all are DEAD apart from Being Alive in Christ.”

Does God give you the gift of faith?
How is one made alive? Through Monergism?
And who gets to be made Alive in Christ? Those Predestined by God before the foundation of the world?

Calvinism is Reformed Catholicism.

Is this what you believe?

Reformed theology is more properly known as Covenant theology, which suggests that God made three major covenants within the Godhead before time began. These three implicit covenants, which cannot be found in the Bible with chapter and verse, define 1) how God elected some for salvation while letting the rest go to Hell (Covenant of Redemption), 2) how God promises salvation for obedience (Covenant of Works), and 3) how man can’t obey, so God, through Christ, provided obedience actively in His life and passively through His death for the salvation of the elect (Covenant of Grace). Therefore, both Christ’s life and death are said to contribute to salvation in Reformed theology. Both His life and death are salvific. These inferred covenants lay the groundwork for salvation through election and law-keeping righteousness. In essence, these three additional covenants skew God’s plan for mankind to the point where Reformed theology can justify not only Calvinistic election and preterition (not choosing to save some), but also justify replacement theology (where the church replaces Israel), the tribulation happening in 70 A.D. (Preterism), and the kingdom being in existence today (Kingdom Now theology). This complicated theology cannot be defended if Calvinistic election is false. Therefore, Reformed theology is predicated on Calvinism. [Emphasis added]— http://www.calvinismnomore.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/My_Journey_into_Calvinism.pdf

Let me ask, if He is not Reigning now, what is He doing? Amillienianisim only started with The DARBY translation and his notes in that bible,
and was NEVER a concept until at least the 1700s. And even IF Augustine was amillinealist how does that equate to the Roman Catholic Church.
Using a logical fallacy to some how say, ‘amillinealism is not true because the Roman Catholic Church says so’ is fallacy. The RCC has nothing to do with it,
as in one sense, they see themselves as ‘The Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven, with the Pope being the ‘Vicar of Christ’
However, one has NOTHING to do with the other in any way. (I am not a so-call ‘Roman Catholic’).
Psalm 110:1
The LORD said to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
6 And

****God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus****

, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

What exactly do you think The LORD, Jesus Christ is doing right now? Sitting around doing nothing?

Matthew 26:64
“You have said it yourself,” Jesus answered. “But I say to all of you, from now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One
and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Mark 13:26
Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Luke 22:69
But from NOW on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.”

2 Peter 1:16
For we did not follow cleverly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of ‘His Majesty’.

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man will come in His Father’s glory with His angels, and ***then He will repay each one according to what he has done***.

What, is he going to ‘come to earth’ and sit on an earthly throne and all the ‘saint’s are going to be on earth in the presence of ‘dead’ unbelievers and do what?
Make them believe? Would you, if you died today, want to come BACK to earth and live in an overpopulated polluted realm..after having been Made clean and
having ‘shed this earthly tent’? How does that make sense? Why bother believing now. We can just sit fat and happy in unbelief and say: “I’ll believe when He comes back and when I see Him in Glory then I’ll believe”..granted no one knows when the day will Come.but we now that when he does, ‘two men will be in one bed, one will be taken up and the other will remain’. How does that equate to staying here at the same time?

How do you reckon a 1000 year reign on earth with this?

The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar,
the elements will be dissolved in the fire,
and the earth and its works will not be found.

11 Since everything will be dissolved in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness…

Peek the Morpholux wrote:

Who said anything about believing or not believing in Amillennialism? I’m a Preterist.

Do you usually contradict yourself? If you’re a Preterist then you are automatically an Amillennialist.

Bless ye, fine fellow, and look to the Autumn skies for the Final Gathering, day and hour unknown, but season well defined.