As Christians We Must Judge Righteously

Judge Righteously

As Christians We Must Judge Righteously

As Christians we do not judge a person’s life, i.e., sin, because we are all sinners (Matt 7:1)., we judge righteously according to the Word of God.  The Bible commands us to judge fellow Christians teachings and their fruit. Those in the church we are to judge according to the Word of God. Those outside of the church we show them the error of their ways, preach the gospel to them and then leave them in God’s hands. We are also commanded to judge/test their teachings/doctrine to make sure it is correct and that it ties up with scripture.

There are many verses in the bible where we are told to JUDGE/TEST:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 (Amplified Bible)

21But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.

Matthew 7:15-20 (Amplified Bible)

15Beware of false prophets, who come to you dressed as sheep, but inside they are devouring wolves.

16You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?

17Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit.

18A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear [excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].

19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.

20Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13 (Amplified Bible)

12What [business] of mine is it and what right have I to judge outsiders? Is it not those inside [the church] upon whom you are to pass disciplinary judgment [passing censuring sentence on them as the facts require]?

13God alone sits in judgment on those who are outside. Drive out that wicked one from among you [expel him from your church].

1 Corinthians 14:29 (Amplified Bible)

29 So let two or three prophets speak [those inspired to preach or teach], while the rest pay attention and weigh and discern what is said.

John 7:24 (Amplified Bible)

24Be honest in your judgment and do not decide at a glance (superficially and by appearances); but judge fairly and righteously.

Titus 1:9-16 (Amplified Bible)

9He must hold fast to the sure and trustworthy Word of God as he was taught it, so that he may be able both to give stimulating instruction and encouragement in sound (wholesome) doctrine and to refute and convict those who contradict and oppose it [showing the wayward their error].

10For there are many disorderly and unruly men who are idle (vain, empty) and misleading talkers and self-deceivers and deceivers of others. [This is true] especially of those of the circumcision party [who have come over from Judaism].

11Their mouths must be stopped, for they are mentally distressing and subverting whole families by teaching what they ought not to teach, for the purpose of getting base advantage and disreputable gain.

12One of their [very] number, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, hurtful beasts, idle and lazy gluttons.

13And this account of them is [really] true. Because it is [true], rebuke them sharply [deal sternly, even severely with them], so that they may be sound in the faith and free from error,

14[And may show their soundness by] ceasing to give attention to Jewish myths and fables or to rules [laid down] by [mere] men who reject and turn their backs on the Truth.

15To the pure [in heart and conscience] all things are pure, but to the defiled and corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are defiled and polluted.

16They profess to know God [to recognize, perceive, and be acquainted with Him], but deny and disown and renounce Him by what they do; they are detestable and loathsome, unbelieving and disobedient and disloyal and rebellious, and [they are] unfit and worthless for good work (deed or enterprise) of any kind.

1 John 4 (Amplified Bible)

1BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

See article:  https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2018/03/18/ravenous-wolves-sheeps-clothing/

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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hanelie

Deborah,

I’m merely asking all these questions because I am trying to understand and learn, of course (and I am learning – so many things (about myself, the working of the Holy Spirit, Doctrines); I might not always agree (at first or at all), but I am allowing the Holy Spirit to convince me otherwise.
On Deception:
Every time I was deceived it was because I did not know the Word well enough (Hos 4:6) or because I do not trust or listen to the Holy Spirit, but left the responsibility for my spiritual growth to others. Because I am human, I can obviously fall into this trap again, but hopefully not. That is also why I am so extra cautious.

On Kingdom Now
Not really familiar with this movement. I believe we are part of God’s Kingdom, yes. Now already, in the way that we are set apart for His work and in that we already receive His blessings that come with this Kingdom: freedom from the slavery the world is in, peace, the ability to love unconditionally etc. I do not believe that this Kingdom is a physical one or that we are to rule over others. We are to stand against and fight evil spirits though. I hope that makes sense.

On Retah
I am asking about Retah because I am familiar with some of her work. I cannot yet judge her because I haven’t got any convincing evidence with which to do this. For the same reason I cannot yet judge your judgement of her.

On the soft whispers of the Holy Spirit
Of course the Holy Spirit speaks to me through warnings. But, I am careful of those, since they can sometimes come out of myself. Let me give some examples: I have felt great unease (many years ago, during a short stint in a charismatic church) at all events where people were slain in the Spirit. Only recently, did I learn that that unease probably was from the Holy Spirit. At the time, I feared it was my pride (not wanting to hit the floor in front of a full congregation). I also felt great uncertainty about the believers baptism, but got baptised nonetheless (because I felt that was what God had wanted me to do). That uncertainty came out of my indoctrination in the church I was raised in though and not from the Holy Spirit. Most of my visits to this site has been accompanied with feelings of unease. But, I cannot be sure that these do not come from previous negative experiences at (worldly) blogs. So, I tend to trust the Lord’s peace more since my flesh is likely to interfere in that.

hanelie

Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

Do you follow Joyce Meyer by any chance?

N, I don’t. I follow Christ. As mnay times as people will ask me if I follow so-and-so, the answer will be the same. I follow Christ.

Deborah, are you deliberately choosing to take my testimony (as to my unease and my fear that it is not of God, but stemming from personal past experiences) as an insult? I am not sure why? It was an example and one with an honest finger pointing to myself.

The unease stems from the way people (in general) here respond to each other. I read in the responses sarcasm, intolerance, and sometimes open mockery. But, again, that is what I read in them, that is not to say it is the case. I am not going to give you examples, but if you ask the Holy Spirit, I am sure He will (if it is important enough).

I had not wanted to speak out about it if I could not do it in love. This afternoon, God answered my prayer, and granted me grace greater than I could ever have imagined. I can say I truly care about you and this site and what you are doing. I mean that. I hope you can believe that. I know your intentions are good, your effort relentless and your scriptural knowledge vast. So, I ask this in love: can you say that you truly care about the people passing through here? God forgives us repeatedly, and tells us to do it 70 x 7 times, yet you would only give me one more chance. Love is more than warning, it is willingness to die for. I know I don’t have that kind of love yet. Do you?

I learned from Paul (Cor 4) this morning not to care what others say about me. So, what you think of me does not matter. I have learned a lot here, so I will continue to pray for you. Thank you for tolerating me this long and for all the answers.

May God bless your work and heal your heart.

Burning Lamp

Hanelie, in case you are still with us, if Debs did not have the love of the Lord and for His truth, she would have chucked this blog long ago with all the crud she had had to endure because she stands for truth.

Try standing up for truth and see what happens. People misunderstand your motives, they malign you and accuse you and even worse no matter how you try to speak the truth in love. They don’t understand this kind of love that is not gooshy or weak. Love cares enough to confront and speak the truth even when it is unpopular to do so. It calls for courage and obedience as the prophets of old displayed.

I hope you will test and examine every book you read in addition to the Bible. It sounds like you are deluding yourself. We can’t be too careful in these perilous times.

Michael

Prefer the word discern rather than judge because it has a more appropriate meaning…only a fool ignores discernment.

Can you imagine going into battle and ignoring the enemy strategies and formation…suicidal.

It’s the same with spiritual war-fare…if you do not discern the booby-traps the enemy places in your way you will most certainly be deceived and eventually defeated.

Deb’s has a great service to all those who are sincere and yes she is bona-fide and has integrity.

Michael

Love is often miscontrued in Christian circles…this because their are different types of love…selfish needing love which is of man and this natural love is what the world craves…God’s love is very different…first of all you can call it “tough love” as it requires truth first and not feelings.
The love of God is totally misunderstood and has erroneously sold by the modern day church.
God’s love is the genuine article afterall Calvary was the ultimate of all love…this was not “feelings” but a necessary transaction to break through the sin barrier so that we could could have a relationship with our Creator who loves us more than we will ever understand on this earth. God is holy and just with absolutes of integrity…the only way justice and mercy could be satisfied was at the cross.

Ria Mey

Dear Deborah, Thank God that I am receiving again from you. I have been reading all the above comments and all this old lady can do is “shake, shake my old gray head/hair”. You have a lot of patience to keep on answering the same questions over and over again. You know what my dear, I wish you were my neighbour and we could sit together for all hours available. I have been called rebellious so many times by the church pastors (the church I used to visit) that my skin has bcome as thick as the poor rhinos horns. Do I care what they or any other say? No way! They are humans and all I care is that I can go to sleep at night trusting the Lord is “happy”☺ with me. Sometimes I think He can only shake His head for my doings☺

There is one topic I would love to hear your views or any of your wise friends: ATTENDING CHURCH. My concern is: how do you attend a church where the pastor has been in adultery, married and divorced several times, judging and condeming people for a lack of faith when the poor do not have money to attend their “seminars” of 10 steps to wealth?? In the meantime there are people in their congregation with no food, children has to go to school, electricity cut off. But when I used to question this, I was trampled that only the top of my hair showed. I am so tired to hear all these sermons about “money is the most written about in the Bible”. Pray our Healer will give you the health you need. God bless

Lee

@ Debs “My husband laughs at me, because he says I bring out the worst in people without even saying anything lol. It’s that bad. I had a NAR pastor actually greet everyone (about 15 people) in the room but me one day because as I heard later on he sensed there was something about me that he didn’t like.”

seriously? lool must be the Holy Spirit reacting to the false spirit in him. I’ve had that before and thought maybe I was possessed…because I wasnt falling on the floor or “getting in the spirit”

Robbie

Ria

>>>you have a lot of patience to keep on answering the same questions over and over again. You know what my dear,<<<

Great school for apprentice "discerners" would we say?

Burning Lamp

People who do not understand throw out the verse not to forsake the gathering together – to mean you must have your posterier planted in a pew. Of course that is preferable, but as you say, in this day and age it is next to impossible to find an organized church setting where the Word of God is honored and the Gospel uncompromised.

Fellowship is gathering online with like-minded saints, talking over the phone, etc. Some are hindered by health issues. True Christians will desire fellowship and just because they don’t find it in a church gathering doesn’t make them disobedient to the admonition in the Word. In fact, it may mean quite the opposite – forsaking the apostasy that exists.

I pray for those rare little churches who have a pastor after God’s own heart – they are brave souls.

Paul

Burning Lamp.

You are quite right in what you are saying and it IS very difficult to find true believers and a true church. I have tried to find a Scripturally based church here in Durban, and I can’t.

Maggie Mae

I’m so glad I came across this website with all the responses. I haven’t read all of them, but I’m a Christian who is very interested in this topic and I am in need of fellowship (still looking for a new church). I know a lot of scripture, and I’ve heard other Christians say things like “I’m not his judge” or “judge not lest yea be judged” and basically want to drop anything relating to really looking at someone’s behavior and deciding in your own mind whether it’s Christ-like or not. I’m not talking about nit-picking, I’m talking about often a serious situation, something said in church that just doesn’t sit right with scripture, mistreatment in a marriage, etc. My husband and I ended up in a heated debate last night about the Dan Rather interview with Gene Simmons from the band “Kiss.” This morning I was reading my Bible and thought back to last night, my later researching of Gene Simmons (who my husband now has great respect for), and I thought to myself, “I don’t like him.” Then in my mind I heard the words “that’s not how you are to look at him,” (can’t remember verbatim but was something like that). Then I thought about those words and realized God was talking to me, so instead of going on with what I was doing, I stopped to contemplate and be open to God’s voice (I’m not talking about a thundering audible voice coming down from heaven, but as Christians I believe you know what I mean). More thoughts came into my mind that I was to love Gene Simmons as Christ loves him, even though I do not like his actions. This softened my heart. Last night when discussing the interview with my husband, my husband was siding with Gene Simmons about what Simmons felt about God, and I was on the defensive, leaving my husband saying he did not like talking religion with me because it always ends up in an argument. In looking back, I see what went wrong. I knew the truth from the scripture and from my relationship with God, but I came at it with a somewhat angry/critical spirit. I need prayer for that. My husband and I have been married 34 ys. now and he still doesn’t go to church with me, still won’t read his Bible, and still questions God (as Gene Simmons does) but he does believe that God exists. Please pray for me that I may use my discernment while at the same time loving the sinner, but hating the sin. Thank you!! Maggie Mae

Maggie Mae

P.S.–I have prayed for Mr. Simmons. I also need prayer for maintaining a “gentle spirit” — as you know, that’s worth a lot according to God/His Word. Thank you for your prayers!!! Maggie Mae

Maggie Mae

Deborah – I was on the defensive for God, not for Gene Simmons. In the interview, Gene Simmons said he did believe in God, but he wants to “sit Him down” (something like that) and ask Him why he allows so much misery to happen to good people (especially towards children). Gene also said he helps over 1,000+ children in Africa with an education, food, etc., because he doesn’t want the children to be like he was when he was living in Jerusalem with his mother and they barely had anything to eat, where he knew Jews were hated, and where his father went off to war every day which might be in the next town over, and he felt all alone and felt the hatred around him until his mother received a “care package” that had a can of peaches in it and a used red sweater that had a rip in it. He said he loved the red sweater, rip and all, all the time and was very proud of it. He said it was then that he realized the world was not such a bad place, and that there were strangers out there who cared about him and his mother. I believe you can U-tube the interview as it was very recent (my husband had recorded it and we watched it several days after the actual interview took place).

About knowing the words were from God, what I heard in my mind did not conflict with scripture. I said in my heart that didn’t like that man, and in my heart I closed the door so to say on Mr. Simmons. I do believe it was God who interjected into that attitude I had when I heard in my mind “that’s not how you are to look at him” because the Holy Spirit continued to speak to me that to be like Christ, I should love Mr. Simmons (and then the thought of praying for Simmons came into my mind–see how my attitude started changing by listening to the Holy Spirit) even though I don’t like his behavior or everything he says. I felt a confirmation in my heart from the Holy Spirit even as I type this. You don’t need to worry that by loving Mr. Simmons I will be supporting his bad behavior or bad statements that he makes, but I will be praying for him. Please pray for me as I asked in my earlier comment. Thank you, Deborah!

Your Sis in Christ, Maggie Mae

Maggie Mae

That you Deborah. I really do appreciate your prayers for me and for my husband! Yes, he does need your prayers.

Love, Your Sis in Christ

Maggie Mae

Maggie Mae

I meant, “Thank you Deborah,” not “That you Deborah.” Slight typo there. 🙁

Maggie Mae

Jumpy

Occasionally I look upon this site.
I read Maggie May’s comment (08/10), regarding that phrase that cannot be found in the Bible, no matter how hard you try to find it: “God loves the sinner, but hates the sin”.
What is there in a sinner but sin? Is this not a meaningless distinction. What is there in a sinner but sin? God hates sin. Is not “God angry with the wicked every day”? Psalm 7.11.
I had never heard of Simmons before, I looked him up on Wikipedia, and well!? Having said this, nothing is impossible with Almighty God: Should God “Grant him repentance unto life” Acts 11.18., Simmons and whosever else will be saved. If not….

Maggie Mae

Hello Jumpy – Please understand I never said “God loves the sinner, but hates the sin,” was in the Bible as you can see if you re-read my earlier blog. It just came to mind when I was explaining the situation to Deborah.

If you’d like, there is a very interesting article about “love the sinner, hate the sin” in the Apologetics Press. You can cut and past the following website into your address bar: “http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=2035”.

I don’t understand the answers I am getting to my blog. It seems the people who answer me are quick to find a point to criticize me on, but are very slow, if not at all, showing humility, wanting to uplift me in my request for prayer, not gentle or encouraging in their response (especially since I opened up my heart to who I hoped were fellow Christians and asked for their prayers). I really wanted to find a site where Christians want to at the foremost “build each other up” and fellowship with each other. Of course there will be disagreements, but I don’t believe we are to be so quick to tear each other down with what seems like an attitude of criticism.

Is it just me, or does this blog site seem to foster a lot of criticism and hardness between brothers and sisters in Christ? If so, will some one please let me know where there is a Christian blog site where most of the writers are more into building each other up and wanting the loving fellowship that should occur between believers? I don’t know about all of you out there, but I sure need my brothers’ and sisters’ love and understanding in what can be a very difficult life. I’m not saying the responders are to lie by agreeing to something they don’t believe is true, but aren’t Christians supposed to be more gentle in their response? There is a way to debate an issue in a more respectful, gentle manner. I personally don’t like constant debates because there is so much of that in this life. I guess I’m a bit weary of the constant debating after working in law offices for 30+ years.

We are to be peacemakers, and these scriptures help me with that:

Proverbs 15:1 A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

James 1:19-20 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.

Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one.

Philippians 2:3 ESV Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.

I am nothing without Jesus Christ. He saved my soul. He’s saved my life many times as I drank my way through life in dealing with the severe abuse my sister and I endured while we were children. I am in awe that I am a child of God. I know Christ died for me “while I was yet a sinner.” He actually loved me when I was a sinner. For God so loved the WORLD, that He gave His only begotten Son…. So He loved all of us while we were yet sinners. God is so loving; so wonderful.

P.S. – Gene Simmons is the main band member in the hard rock group, “Kiss” (has a very long tongue).

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Jumpy,

Would you rather have John 3:16 read as follows,

For God so hated the world (of sinners), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever was elected unto salvation before the foundation of the world should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(John 3:16, the CRV).

Perhaps you may want this post on Psalm 5:5.

The word “Trinity” is also nowhere to be found in the Bible, no matter how hard you try to find it. However, do you believe in the Trinity?

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Hi Maggie,

I agree that we should be gentle in our approach to one another and I also agree that God loves sinners. But you know, even Jesus seems to have been less than gentle (if I may call it that) with people at times.

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected. (Luke 13:32).

I am sure you wouldn’t like it when I called you a sly, cunning and mischievous rogue, would you?

John the Baptist, whom Jesus honored as his greatest prophet (Matthew 11:11), once said the following:

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? (Matthew 23:33)

What I am trying to tell you, is that we should learn to have a balanced view of Bible truths. Those verses you quoted are wonderful and indeed must be obeyed. However, there are also other verses that are equally wonderful although they may seem to be unkind. Like this one for instance:

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)

The notion that God hates sinners is another Gospel. It’s an infamous lie.

God bless.

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