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Burning the Koran – Jumping on the Bandwagon

Burning the Koran - Jumping on the Bandwagon

burning the koran

Burning the Koran – Jumping on the Bandwagon

What these pastors are doing is wrong!  We know that Islam is a false religion.  Burning the Koran will not convert a single soul. A Christians duty is to preach the Gospel – that is it!

We are to keep the Church in order on the inside – which has clearly not happened which is why we have pastors like Terry Jones, Bob Old and Dana Lightsey placing peoples lives at risk.

God says that HE WILL DEAL with those who sit outside the body of Christ.

1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (Amplified Bible)

11But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person.

12What [business] of mine is it and what right have I to judge outsiders? Is it not those inside [the church] upon whom you are to pass disciplinary judgment [passing censuring sentence on them as the facts require]?

13God alone sits in judgment on those who are outside. Drive out that wicked one from among you [expel him from your church].

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Koran Burning Pastor No: 1

US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

A small US church says it will defy international condemnation and go ahead with plans to burn copies of the Koran on the 9/11 anniversary.

The top US commander in Afghanistan warned troops’ lives would be in danger if the Dove World Outreach Center in Florida went ahead.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the church’s plan was “disrespectful and disgraceful”.

Muslim countries and Nato have also hit out at the move.

And the US Attorney General, Eric Holder, called the idea “idiotic and dangerous”.

But organiser, Pastor Terry Jones said: “We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam.”

Read rest here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11223457

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“Terry Jones initially said that the Koran burning had been cancelled. The US pastor who threatened to burn copies of the Koran on the anniversary of 9/11 says his plans are “on hold”.

Terry Jones initially cancelled the event, which has caused international outrage, saying a local imam had told him an Islamic centre planned near New York’s Ground Zero would be moved. But the imam, Muhammad Musri, denied saying a deal had been reached.

Mr Jones later said he felt he had been lied to and could reconsider his decision to drop the protest. Mr Jones, pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, which has fewer than 50 members, had named Saturday “International Burn a Koran Day”..”

Read rest here www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11256182

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Koran Burning Pastor No: 2

“SPRINGFIELD, Tenn. – Springfield Pastor Bob Old said his decision to burn the Islamic holy book on September 11 has nothing to do with the agenda of the pastor in Florida or the controversy surrounding the mosque in New York. He has his own reasons behind the demonstrations and no intentions of backing down.

“My plans for Saturday are to take a copy of the Quran and burn it,” said Old.

He’s planning to go forward with the demonstration on 9/11 to be able to make his point and have it heard.

“To the Muslim church I would say the reason I am doing on Saturday because I believe they worship a false god. They have a false text, a false prophet and a false scripture,” said Old. He said the other two reasons are to teach Americans about their constitutional rights and to make them better Christians..”

Read rest here www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=13129871

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Quran burning: ‘Stunt’ became ‘crisis’ when Obama attacked
Florida pastor’s idea used ‘to show that Christians are deranged’
Amid reports that Florida pastor Terry Jones has canceled plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11, Christian leaders are wondering how the obscure leader of a tiny church became so prominent in the first place.

“If it weren’t for Obama and his administration ripping this pastor, this issue would not have been elevated to an international crisis,” said Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, an ordained minister and president of BOND Action, a Los Angeles-based ministry.

Peterson told WND, “For the administration to come out and publicly speak out against this one pastor who said he may do this is hypocrisy. These people (Muslims) have been burning the Bible and attacking Christians and protesting against America for years. I’ve not heard Obama or Hillary Clinton or the Justice Department denounce what the Muslims are doing to Christians at all. This is hypocrisy at its worst.”

While he condemned the idea of a Quran burning, Matt Barber, the associate dean of the Liberty School of Law, also noted that President Obama has defended the First Amendment rights of Muslims to build the mosque at Ground Zero, but his administration has not defended Jones’ rights.

Read rest here www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=201425

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Koran Burning Pastor No: 3

“CHEYENNE — The founder of the Wyoming Tyranny Response Team plans to burn a copy of the Quran on the steps of the State Capitol on Saturday.

Duncan Philp said he will protest the location of a proposed Islamic Center near Ground Zero in New York City. He also will protest President Barack Obama’s support for the location. “I feel Obama is being disingenuous when he pretends he supports religious liberties,” Philp said. “(The Muslims) are not building that mosque out of love for my culture or love of the victims of 9-11 but for political reasons.”

Meanwhile, members of Unitarian Universalist Church also plan to walk from their church to the Capitol on Saturday.

They will gather in response to a Florida pastor who plans to burn more than 200 copies of the Quran, said the Rev. Dana Lightsey of the church….”

Read rest here: www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2010/09/09/news/18local_09-09-10.txt

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29 comments to Burning the Koran – Jumping on the Bandwagon

  • Elmarie A

    Debs

    Thank yous berry berry much ….now meeees flopping over and goooo sleepish lol lol eish sooo much for me checking out CNN, Sky News and da other channels hie hie crank….

  • Grant C

    These pastors (pastors????) are not acting Biblically.

    The advocates of this type of barbarism are not defending the Christian Faith, rather they are destroying it further from the inside.

    Creating animosity, seeking war, committing arson and placing fellow Christians in harms way for unbiblical purposes is certainly not what Christians would do.

    If these people were Holy Spirit led, they would be evangelizing, not making a mockery of the Christian Faith.

    Their intentions and proposals are of an uncivilized nature, offensive to Christians, break the rules of the Christian’s commission and just simply in bad taste.

    If all the components to this ridiculous occurrence were set out in an algebraic equation, the sum answer would be that these people are simply not true Christians. True Christians follow Christ and adhere to His teachings without compromise.

    (On an unimportant note, this pastor? Terry Jones chap should spend some time having his trailer straightened at a panel beater and also give his moustache a makeover or just get rid of it, seeing as they now are both internationally recognized icons of disrepute.)

    Just anther piece of information before I go- in a country at the southern tip of Africa, there are many practically minded arsonists, what would we rather burn here? The Koran (a thick book hard to burn, makes too much smoke) or, the Korhaan (one of the worlds largest flightless birds, which will insist on moving away from the braai) or, the Koerant (any local newspaper). C’mon you guys born in the USA, slayer of empires, is it not obvious you are doing it wrong?

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Grant

    LOL, I had to ask my husband what a Korhaan was. I thought you were joking. He explained what this big birdie looked like. He is the size of a chicken. Don’t suppose he tastes like a chicken.

    As for the Koerant. Well I have my handy koerant rolled up next to me, I will gladly smack Terry over the head with it for free.

  • Gerrie

    Common guys, what was behind 9/11? Even the radical Muslems were manipulated. And what can we learn about it? Peace will only come when Jesus returns. God so loved the world that He gave is only Son… What do we give? At least a hefty reaction against the idea of burning the Kur An. It’s time to show love to all.

  • Grant C

    Note to self

    C’mon you guys born in the USA, slayer of empires, is it not obvious you are doing it wrong?

    Before my words are misinterpreted here and offend any of the innocent, I need to make it clear that I am certainly not speaking about true Christian Americans, but those who wish to burn the Koran (Qur’an). For those would be arsonists, who by their actions would offend Christianity, it would be more practical to burn the Koerant.

  • Grant C

    Gerrie

    Yes, Satan was behind the murderous events of 9/11. Do I understand correctly that you are in agreement that reacting against the burning of the Koran, and speaking out on this matter in defense of the Gospel of Jesus, is showing love to all?

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Grant

    Good question to Gerrie. I too am confused at his comment.

  • Elmarie A

    US marks 9/11 anniversary amid Koran-burning row

    The US is marking nine years since 9/11 amid controversy over plans for an Islamic centre near Ground Zero and a threat to burn the Koran.

    The biggest event is in New York, where relatives are reading out the names of those who died when planes hit the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

    Earlier, President Barack Obama urged respect for other religious faiths.

    The pastor behind the threat to burn Korans in Florida has said the event has been cancelled permanently.

    “We will definitely not burn the Koran, no,” the Reverend Terry Jones told NBC’s Today show.

    “Not today, not ever,” he said when pressed about whether his planned demonstration might happen at a later date.

    He also said no meeting had been set up with New York Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is behind the plans for the Islamic centre.
    Continue reading the main story
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    Rallies

    US Vice-President Joe Biden and his wife were among the dignitaries who attended the commemoration in New York, where the names of all the victims are being read out.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11269681

  • Elmarie A

    SA man wants to burn Bibles
    2010-09-10 13:27

    Johannesburg – A court interdict was on Friday being sought to stop a local man from burning Bibles at the Library Gardens in Johannesburg, in protest against a plan by a US pastor to burn the Islamic holy book, the Qu’ran.

    Attorney Zahir Omar, representing a Gauteng-based organisation, the Scholars of the Truth, said he was seeking an interdict at the South Gauteng High Court on Friday afternoon to halt the burning of the Bibles.

    “This will be action taken by South Africans in South Africa to stop this man from disrupting peaceful religious relations in the country,” Omar said.

    Mohammed Vawda planned to burn the bibles in the Johannesburg CBD on Saturday afternoon and declare September 11 “Bible burning day” in South Africa.
    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/SA-man-wants-to-burn-Bibles-20100910

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Oh boy…

  • Gerrie

    My view is that Jesus came for all and that includes ALL. Every knee, means all knees. Thus, for the grace of Jesus and the love of God and the communion of the Holy Spirit, am I.

    There is very conflicting evidence about 9/11, pointing fingers in all directions. So, that is why I ask what was behind it? Discerning the NOW means even ourselves. Are we doing what God wants us to do?

  • Elmarie A

    I said so too… I actually repeated it aaaa 20 times lol lol lol

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Pages torn from Qu’ran in 9/11 protest
    2010-09-11 23:15

    Washington – A small group of conservative Christians tore some pages from a Qu’ran in a protest outside the White House on Saturday to denounce what they called the “charade of Islam” on the anniversary of 9/11.

    “Part of why we’re doing that, please hear me: the charade that Islam is a peaceful religion must end,” said Randall Terry, a leading anti-abortion campaigner and one of six people who took part in the protest.

    Another activist, Andrew Beacham, read out a few Qu’ranic passages calling for hatred towards Christians and Jews, and then ripped those pages from an English paperback edition of the Islamic holy book.

    He carefully put the torn pieces into a plastic bag, in order not to litter, and said: “The only reason I will not burn it at the White House is because to burn anything on the Capitol grounds is a felony.”

    Beacham, who describes himself as a leader of the rightwing conservative Tea Party from Indiana, added: “The Twin Towers were taken down because of the Qu’ran and other religious teachings.”

    Police didn’t intervene

    A few curious tourists stopped to watch the huddle outside the White House, while police took down the names of the participants but did not intervene.

    The tiny protest came as the United States marked the sombre ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks amid heightened tensions following a radical Florida pastor’s threat to burn the Qu’ran.

    After days of global outrage and protests, pastor Terry Jones, from Gainesville, said Saturday: “We will definitely not burn the Qu’ran, no.”

    “Not today (Saturday), not ever,” he told NBC television when pressed for his plans.

    President Barack Obama told a deeply polarised America on Saturday that Islam was not the enemy as the 9/11 ceremonies took place.

    “As Americans we will not and never will be at war with Islam. It was not a religion that attacked us that September day. It was al-Qaeda, (a) sorry band of men, which perverts religion,” Obama said.

    – SAPA

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Pages-torn-from-Quran-in-911-protest-20100911

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    2 dead in Afghan Qu’ran-burning riot
    2010-09-12 20:10

    Rahim Faiez

    Kabul – Two protesters died and four were injured as Afghans protested for a third day on Sunday against a plan by an American pastor to burn copies of the Islamic holy book, despite his decision to call off the action.

    Mohammad Rahim Amin, chief of the Baraki Barak district in eastern Logar province, said the deaths and injuries occurred when Afghan soldiers opened fire on hundreds of protesters who were trying to storm the local government headquarters.

    During recent protests against the Qu’ran burning, Afghans have regularly targeted the pro-Western government.

    Terry Jones, pastor of a small Florida church, said on Saturday that “we feel that God is telling us to stop” the Qu’ran burning, which was to coincide with the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.

    The plan to burn the Qu’ran stirred outrage among millions of Muslims and others worldwide.

    The protesters in Logar chanted “Death to America” and burned tires, attacked several shops and set election campaign posters on fire, Amin said.

    “I can say for sure that this was the work of the enemies of peace and stability in Afghanistan who are trying to use any opportunity to disrupt the security situation” in the country, Amin said.

    Many unaware

    In a country where most people have limited access to newspapers, television and the internet, many Afghans seemed unaware of Jones’ decision to call off the Qu’ran burning.

    Meanwhile, a Taliban commander who planned rocket attacks on polling stations during elections next week and four other insurgents was killed in eastern Afghanistan, Nato said on Sunday.

    The military alliance said Nato and Afghan forces killed the five insurgents on Saturday night in a village compound in the eastern Nangarhar province. The insurgents were killed after they “displayed hostile intent” as the forces moved in on the compound, it said in a statement.

    It said intelligence reports indicated the Taliban commander was planning to conduct rocket attacks on voting centres during the September 18 parliamentary elections. The Taliban has vowed to target polling stations and warned Afghans not to participate in what it called a sham vote.

    The government and its Western allies hope the elections for the lower house of parliament will help consolidate the country’s fragile democracy, leading to the withdrawal of the roughly 140 000 Nato-led foreign troops in the country.

    But many Afghans and foreign observers fear the vote could turn bloody if the Taliban carries out its threats.

    “The Afghan people deserve to cast their votes without fear of attacks from the insurgent groups,” US Army spokesperson Rafael Torres said in the Nato statement. “We are tracking them and taking action before they’re able to carry out their plans.”

    Nato said the killed Taliban commander had participated in “intimidation campaigns and assassinations” and was directly linked to a February suicide bomb attack that killed Haji Zaman, a well-known tribal elder and warlord in eastern Afghanistan.

    Targeted individual
    Also on Sunday, the military alliance issued the findings of a joint Nato-Afghan team investigating an air strike that President Hamid Karzai said killed 10 election campaign workers in northern Takhar province on September 2.

    Karzai has repeatedly warned that civilian casualties undermine anti-insurgency efforts.

    The team determined that the intended target of the air strike – local head of an insurgent group – was in the vehicle that was hit by the air strike. The team could not rule out the possibility of civilian casualties.

    “We are very confident that the targeted individual was in the vehicle struck by the air weapons team and was killed,” said Italian Army spokesperson Luigi Scollo, the head of the investigation team.

    “The question remains why an election official or candidate was travelling with a known terrorist?”

    “He was in a six vehicle convoy, and only the vehicle he was in was hit,” Scollo said in a statement.

    “It was selective, surgical and legitimate.”

    At the time of the air strike, Takhar Governor Abdul Jabar Taqwa said the convoy in which election candidate Abdul Wahid Khorasani had been riding was fired on by helicopters following an initial pass by fighter jets.

    He called the incident an obvious mistake, saying there were no insurgents in the convoy.

    Khorasani, who was injured in the air strike, said windows of the six vehicles in the convoy had been plastered with his campaign posters and all those travelling with him had been members of his extended family.

    Nato said in the statement, however, that after reviewing the air weapons system video, the investigation team saw no evidence of political campaign material on the outside of the struck vehicle.

    – AP

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/2-dead-in-Afghan-Quran-burning-riot-20100912

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Qu’ran burning protest claims 4
    2010-09-13 20:05

    Srinagar – Four people were killed in Indian Kashmir on Monday when police fired on Muslim protesters who set fire to a Christian missionary school to denounce reports that copies of the Qu’ran had been damaged in the US, officials said.

    Police said the demonstrations, attended by thousands in western Kashmir, quickly turned into protests against the Indian central government – a day after authorities slapped a curfew on much of the restive region.

    The crowds massed in Budgam and Tangmarg areas chanting slogans denouncing the US. They set fire to government buildings and a school owned by a Protestant church, witnesses and officials said.

    “One person died in Humahama (in Budgam district) over Qu’ran protests and in Tangmarg three people were killed after a huge Qu’ran protest turned into an anti-government demonstration,” Kashmir Valley’s Inspector General of Police, S M Sahia, told Reuters.

    Several people were wounded, police and hospital officials said.

    Kashmir has seen mass rallies against Indian rule in the last three months and at least 70 protesters have been killed by police. Demonstrations on other issues – such as the Qu’ran – can often balloon into wider anti-government sentiment.

    On Sunday, two people were killed in a third straight day of violent protests in Afghanistan sparked by a US pastor’s threat to burn copies of the Qu’ran.

    While pastor Terry Jones dropped his plans, there were at least two incidents of abuse of the Qu’ran in Lower Manhattan in New York on Saturday. Two evangelical preachers not affiliated with any mainstream church burned two copies of the Qu’ran in Tennessee.

    It was unclear which incidents the Kashmiri demonstrators were denouncing. Iranian TV reports were aired in Kashmir on Sunday about alleged desecration of the Qu’ran – a grave insult to Muslims who believe the Qu’ran to be the literal word of God.

    – Reuters

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Quran-burning-protest-claims-4-20100913

  • donna

    Grant wrote:

    These pastors (pastors????) are not acting Biblically.
    The advocates of this type of barbarism are not defending the Christian Faith, rather they are destroying it further from the inside.
    Creating animosity, seeking war, committing arson and placing fellow Christians in harms way for unbiblical purposes is certainly not what Christians would do.
    If these people were Holy Spirit led, they would be evangelizing, not making a mockery of the Christian Faith.
    Their intentions and proposals are of an uncivilized nature, offensive to Christians, break the rules of the Christian’s commission and just simply in bad taste.
    If all the components to this ridiculous occurrence were set out in an algebraic equation, the sum answer would be that these people are simply not true Christians. True Christians follow Christ and adhere to His teachings without compromise.
    (On an unimportant note, this pastor? Terry Jones chap should spend some time having his trailer straightened at a panel beater and also give his moustache a makeover or just get rid of it, seeing as they now are both internationally recognized icons of disrepute.)
    Just anther piece of information before I go- in a country at the southern tip of Africa, there are many practically minded arsonists, what would we rather burn here? The Koran (a thick book hard to burn, makes too much smoke) or, the Korhaan (one of the worlds largest flightless birds, which will insist on moving away from the braai) or, the Koerant (any local newspaper). C’mon you guys born in the USA, slayer of empires, is it not obvious you are doing it wrong?

    The hostility of muslims towards Christians has nothing with anyone burning the koran, islam is hostile to Christianity ALREADY because islam bears the spirit of antichrist which is hostile to the truth.
    I could care less if they burn a koran or not and I don’t think defending a false religion is a smart idea if you call yourself a Christian.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Donna

    Please show me scripture of any Apostle that went around burning books of false religions? In fact show me any scripture where any disciple did anything hateful towards anyone. Disciples did not go around breaking down other religions temples. Why? because as I stated above using scripture, it’s NOT for us to do these things.

  • Burning Lamp

    Yes, Donna, such actions are not the answer. It only stirs up animosity and that is not what Jesus advocated. If we are hated for sharing the Gospel then that is a different matter. We are suffering for rightousness sake and for the sake of Christ.

    It is foolish to think that burning their religious book is the right way to go about it. What does that accomplish? It is a book and there will be more that come off the press. It does nothing to shed light on the religion. The Bible says they will know us by our love. No, that doesn’t mean that we join with them in an ecumenical manner and ignore the differences as many have done. No, if every Christian would learn how to share the love of Christ with Muslims many would come to know Him and many have through this kind of approach. Nothing is gained if we fight hate with hate.

  • heber

    Where are all those non-Muslims now protesting the Koranburning
    and not making a peep now over the woman who will be executed in Pakistan for saying she is a Christian???????
    DOUBLE STANDARDS is it not?

  • Burning Lamp

    Heber, the response to the burning of the Koran is a different matter altogether.

    One is correcting the wrong actions of someone professing to be a Christian leader and the other is the persecution of someone who professes to be a Christian by a false religion.

    Persecution of the Church is not new – it occurs all over the world whether it be in Communist countries or Muslim countries. You are correct, we, the Church have a responsiblity to remember the Persecuted Church – those Christians who do not enjoy freedom of religion and may be in prison or suffering torture.

    Everyone of the Apostles were martyred as were many who stood against Romanism. In many places there is a price to pay for standing for Christ.

    But the answer is NOT to return evil for evil. The Bible never advocates that – in fact the opposite.

  • donna

    Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

    Donna
    Please show me scripture of any Apostle that went around burning books of false religions? In fact show me any scripture where any disciple did anything hateful towards anyone. Disciples did not go around breaking down other religions temples. Why? because as I stated above using scripture, it’s NOT for us to do these things.

    Are you the woman who wanted to know what a koran was? Or were you making fun and making light of a pastor pubically declaring to burn a koran?

    Returning evil for evil? Burning a document of hate which is the koran is is not returning evil for evil…it is doing the world a favour.
    Just think about it…if there was no koran how much better off the world would be without it~!~!~!

    Remember the muslims riots over the cartoons? They kill people over CARTOONS while they secretly kill their own brothers for leaving islam for Jesus Christ. What a blind hatred these men carry…and you want to defend them?

  • donna

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    Yes, Donna, such actions are not the answer. It only stirs up animosity and that is not what Jesus advocated. If we are hated for sharing the Gospel then that is a different matter. We are suffering for rightousness sake and for the sake of Christ.
    It is foolish to think that burning their religious book is the right way to go about it. What does that accomplish? It is a book and there will be more that come off the press. It does nothing to shed light on the religion. The Bible says they will know us by our love. No, that doesn’t mean that we join with them in an ecumenical manner and ignore the differences as many have done. No, if every Christian would learn how to share the love of Christ with Muslims many would come to know Him and many have through this kind of approach. Nothing is gained if we fight hate with hate.

    It is not stirring up animousity….it was already there in their hearts all along….how can you not see that?
    Do you not know that over a 100,000 Christians are tortured or murdered each year and most if not all come from muslim countries? Of course we are to love muslims, and they are coming to Christ by the millions each year because of love.
    But that in no way should cause you to lessen the impact of the truth…that being that muslims all over the world are responsible for a growing number of problems, every where they go. And they being small in numbers in the host countries and yet proportionately they commit more of the most violent crimes per capita than their host countrymen.

  • donna

    Muslim immigrates into Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, France, Spain, Denmark, Switzerland and other European countries have deliberately failed to assimilate by choice because of their religious arrogance and look at the problems they have created. Their numbers are small compared to the general populations of each of these countries yet per capita muslim men commit more rapes than Swedish, German, Danish, Dutch, Spanish, Swiss and French men although they only represent a small portion of the populations of their host countries, and so far the United States , Canada and other western countries have failed to learn a lesson from Europe who allowed large numbers of muslim immigrants into their countries….30 years from now we will live to regret allowing them into our countries by the boat load to build their temples to the demon god allah. Maybe you won’t be so sympathetic to muslims when they steal the minds of your grandchildren……???? Is there not something already wrong with the fact that one can get a “prayer” room in any college dedicated to the demon god allah and yet Christians are run out like they are some kind of criminal organization on campus?
    Do you believe like alot of “christians” that “allah” is just another name for God?

  • donna

    [EDITED BY DTW: If you think I am mad and don’t want to speak to me again, then please do me a favour and STOP COMMENTING – I asked you for biblical scripture to back up your madness and you get angry with me? If you want to act like a raving lunatic who wants to run around and burn books then go ahead, (that will ACHIEVE NOTHING) leave this website out of it.]

  • jen for Soraya M

    Why burn Koran – the people only need to see (in fact ALL PPL SHOULD SEE) The Stoning of Soraya M.

  • Burning Lamp

    Donna, more and more I can see where you are out of balance on this issue as some sincere believers are.

    No of course I do not believe that Allah and the God of the Bible are the same.

    What you are promoting is HATE and FEAR. Sorry, but that is what it is. You are not separating the individuals from their beliefs. Like Debs says this is not the way the Bible says to treat people, even our enemies. The Bible does NOT advocate extreme acts against our enemies under the New Covenant.

    Certainly the furtherance of Sharia Law is a concern, but our lives are dependent upon the LORD and we trust in HIM. By getting all up in arms you are not going to stop one single aspect of this situation. You are in fact playing into the hands of the enemy. You are stirring up unrest and stealing the peace that Christ offers us if we live for Him.

    Again, we are to love our enemies. I don’t see love in your comments. Instead of being so concerned about this, have you done anything to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with others? Until the heart is changed there is nothing we can do.

    Donna, the Bible has much to say about the last days in which we are living. Things will get worse and worse. None of this should be a surprise. We have nothing to fear if we are living for Christ. Even if we are thrown into prison like those in the early church or those in Communist countries or those who were martyred standing against Romanism, we can still have PEACE in our hearts.

    Yes, horrible things are being done to believers – we should PRAY for the Persecuted Church and support them whenever possible. But we are ALL in the Lord’s hands if we put our trust in Him and are born again.

  • Burning Lamp

    Jen, you are correct. For purposes of outreach it is helpful for Christians to know what is in the Koran.

    And as far as Donna’s burning crusade, it WOULD achieve something – a violent reaction that would harm many innocent people.

  • donna

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    Donna, more and more I can see where you are out of balance on this issue as some sincere believers are.
    No of course I do not believe that Allah and the God of the Bible are the same.
    What you are promoting is HATE and FEAR. Sorry, but that is what it is. You are not separating the individuals from their beliefs. Like Debs says this is not the way the Bible says to treat people, even our enemies. The Bible does NOT advocate extreme acts against our enemies under the New Covenant.
    Certainly the furtherance of Sharia Law is a concern, but our lives are dependent upon the LORD and we trust in HIM. By getting all up in arms you are not going to stop one single aspect of this situation. You are in fact playing into the hands of the enemy. You are stirring up unrest and stealing the peace that Christ offers us if we live for Him.
    Again, we are to love our enemies. I don’t see love in your comments. Instead of being so concerned about this, have you done anything to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with others? Until the heart is changed there is nothing we can do.
    Donna, the Bible has much to say about the last days in which we are living. Things will get worse and worse. None of this should be a surprise. We have nothing to fear if we are living for Christ. Even if we are thrown into prison like those in the early church or those in Communist countries or those who were martyred standing against Romanism, we can still have PEACE in our hearts.
    Yes, horrible things are being done to believers – we should PRAY for the Persecuted Church and support them whenever possible. But we are ALL in the Lord’s hands if we put our trust in Him and are born again.

    My hostily is aimed at the spirit behind islam, not the people who follow the false prophet mohamed. Yes I have lead many to Christ.
    The Dominion theology teachers are destroying the unity of the Body of Christ, just a few weeks ago another of my friends prefers to follow men like Rick Joyner and does things like visualizing third heaven visits…sounds more like astral travel to me with a christian tag attached.
    I have another friend who has her other personal friends who are following todd bentley and rick joyner.
    So you caught me at a really bad time when I was real angry that the dominion theology stole another of my friends.
    My friend is older than me and I avoided visiting her the last few months because I don’t want her praying over me or laying hands on me. Then I confronted her in gentleness and love about following false prophets and now she won’t talk to me. My other friend has a friends who won’t talk to her either because they follow rick joyner and mike bickle and she won’t.
    I am not going to talk to any more of these people about their false teachers because it is a waste of time, they already believe they are right.

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    Donna, we all have days when we just want to throw in the towel and beg the Lord to PLEASE come for us or just take us home. It is overwhelming and disheartening.

    At times like this I find it helpful to read Jeremiah and Isaish who suffered much for simply telling it like it is.

    The apostasy is in full bloom and the fig tree is fully budded. We have to run our course and finish the race. May you be encouraged today. Please know that my comments are meant to edify even if they seem harsh. I don’t mean to give the impression that I know it all. I have just been around the block a few times and want to help others. We need each other during these dark times.

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