No Carolyn

If you read your Bible you would understand that this is not the case. Jesus CLEARLY said you will NOT SEE HIM again in any form, shape or fashion, until the VERY END, His 2nd coming.

All Cults claim to be the “Only Way”, including the RCC. When someone declares that he is God you know that he is a liar. The RCC Popes say that they are God. He is “Father”, “Vicar of Christ” and all priests are “Alter Christus.”

One of the Hallmarks of a cult is sexual deprivation. The Vaticans own declaration is that 31% of all of their clergy are Peodophiles and Sodomites! A private survey put the figure at 63%, I believe this to be true. They condone Sodomy and say that Sodomites can be priests as long as they don’t practise it – This is in their own Catechism. God says that Sodomites have a reprobate mind and yet they are priests.

Gods Holy Word in unholy hands, never. There are several places in the Scripture that warn against adding to or taking away from His Word and yet they butcher it to make money. for example they demand money from heartbroken widows to “Say a Mass” for their dead loved one so as to shorten his time in purgatory, what a bunch of reprobates.

They are reprobates and anyone belonging to the RCC is part of it!

DTW was referring (and rightfully so) to your comment here: BunnyTrails, 19 August, 2010 at 12:08 am
“I am like most Catholics awaiting the final pronouncement on this happening, whatever the source may be.

I’d like to comment the following:

I quote from: http://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm

“The Catholic officials above claim that without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible; they argue that mankind can accept the Scriptures only on the basis of the Catholic Church which gathered the books and determined which were inspired.

Surely the Catholic Church cannot claim that it gave us the Old Testament Scriptures. The Old Testament came through the Jews (God’s chosen people of old) who had the holy oracles entrusted to them. Paul said, “What advantage then remains to the Jew, or what is the use of circumcision? Much in every respect. First, indeed, because the oracles of God were entrusted to them.” (Rom. 3:1-2; see also Rom. 9:4-5; Acts 7:38).”

Please read the whole article – quite interesting!

Second, I quote from: http://www.carm.org/did-roman-catholic-church-give-us-our-bible

“First of all, the Roman Catholic Church was not really in effect as an organization in the first couple hundred years of the Christian Church.”

“The authenticity of the New Testament documents rests in the inspiration of God through the apostles. It does not rest in the declaration of the Catholic Church.”

“When the Catholic Church claims that it is the source of the sacred Scriptures, it is, in effect, placing itself above the word of God.”

BT, you refer much to “the Catholic Bible”, so obviously you know there is a difference between that and the “Christian Bible”? And yes, there indeed is a difference; and this blog, I believe, is not there to teach readers about the “Catholic Bible”.

See here: http://www.carm.org/roman-catholicism-bible-and-tradition

So what is the “Catholic Bible”? I quote from the carm.org article:

“One of the great differences between Protestant and Catholic doctrine is in the area of Tradition. The Protestant church maintains that the Bible alone is intended by God to be the source of doctrinal truth (2 Tim. 3:16).

The Catholic Church, however, says, “Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God . . .” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 97. Note, all citations in this article are from this Catechism).

The Catholic Church reasons thusly:
1. “The apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them their own position of teaching authority.'” (Par. 77).
2. “This living transmission, accomplished through the Holy Spirit, is called tradition…” (Par. 78).
3. “Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.” (Par. 82).

Within the Catholic scope of Tradition, many doctrines have been “revealed” to the Church over the centuries. For example, there is the veneration of Mary, her immaculate conception and her bodily assumption into heaven. There is also the apocrypha, transubstantiation, praying to saints, the confessional, penance, purgatory, and more. Protestantism as a whole differs with Catholicism in these additions.

– John 6 alone is clear enough the Christological aspects of the eucharist. Or church history (Ignacious of Antioch, Polycarp etc. Its online-read it for yourself. There are no excuses.), make your pick.

-With regards to Fatima, since I’m engaging a fundamentalist, this is a moot point.If you can’t see a call for renewed vigor in prayer and repentance Christ centered then I don’t know.

Every Christian is awaiting the return of Jesus which will certainly need no ‘pronouncement’. If you do not believe that the glory which surrounds Jesus will be globally evident and obvious, you are looking for the wrong Jesus.
– what does this have to do with the Eucharistic miracle? The pronouncement is whether it is a natural event caused by fanaticism, supernatural (but satanic) or from God. It is obvious according to the scriptures that the return of Christ will be quite spectacular.

No wonder you were so adamant to pronounce that the Bible is not the FINAL AUTHORITY over our lives and that one can read other non-godly stuff as well – that obviously in your case includes the catholic bible?

I said your name bunnytrails suited you, because I knew you were not a born again Christian, rather another new world Christian. As you wrote in riddles. And now we have it. You are Catholic. You could have just saved me time trying to figure out what your game was.

– The Bible is the c0-final authority, since as Catholics believe (as you well know) that ALL doctrines are taught either explicitly or implicitly in the writings. However if you interpret it wrong you end up with problems. we have abundant proof.

e.g.
Explicit: Do not kill
Implicitly: Trinity

– The bible would not have been in your hands if the Catholic Church had not copied it out by hand for centuries. Try and be grateful to the Church for it at least.

– LOL! I’m not a born-again Christian? And by what authority do you have to judge me saved/Born-again? None.

-I have never written in riddles…unless you regard holy scripture riddles…

– My game? My “game” is merely righting misconceptions. You need to get into some history and wake up to the fact that your views are just that, your views. They are not the views of the Church in any age save your own and a few people who by chance agree with you.

The source is SATAN bunny trails.

-The source of dissent and heresy is SATAN.

RE: Medjugorje: The Church has not approved of this apparition.The Bishop himself has declared that nothing supernatural is happening there. Generally people get carried away with sensationalism. Do get over it when you have a moment. A cold shower may do the trick! LOL!

Pax

This is a segment that appeared on the Wednesday 18th 2010 edition of BBC’S Newsnight programme (Newsnight is a BBC Television current affairs news programme noted for its in-depth analysis). Allan Little heads to the village of Medjugorje in Bosnia-Hercegovina, where many believe the Virgin Mary appears daily…

http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2010/08/virgin-mary-appears-on-bbc-tv.html

Please watch this with discernment. Be careful that no one deceives you……

Matthew 24:4
Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.

Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, ‘ and will deceive many.

Bunnytrails

I am like most Catholics awaiting the final pronouncement on this happening, whatever the source may be.

The source is SATAN bunny trails.

Bunnytrails

No wonder you were so adamant to pronounce that the Bible is not the FINAL AUTHORITY over our lives and that one can read other non-godly stuff as well – that obviously in your case includes the catholic bible?

I said your name bunnytrails suited you, because I knew you were not a born again Christian, rather another new world Christian. As you wrote in riddles. And now we have it. You are Catholic. You could have just saved me time trying to figure out what your game was.

I am like most Catholics awaiting the final pronouncement on this happening

Every Christian is awaiting the return of Jesus which will certainly need no ‘pronouncement’. If you do not believe that the glory which surrounds Jesus will be globally evident and obvious, you are looking for the wrong Jesus.

Also with regards the Rosary and Fatima, your comments are baseless, Elmarie, you have missed the Christological center of both the devotion and the messages.

Bunnytrails I don’t know which comment you are referring to. There is no Christological point to the Roman Catholic view of the Eucharist or The Roman Catholic Fatima, which can be Biblically missed. Therefore what point is it you are referring to?