Kim Clement Admits he is a False Prophet

 Kim Clement admits to false prophecyRecently a ‘prophet’ was exposed by DTW as being false – Ivin from 220Generation prophecied on the 20th Jan 2009 saying that God spoke to him through a thunderstorm.  God told Ivin that 5 atrocities have occurred or will occur within the next couple of months and be shown on the news, and will shock South Africa half to death and bring the fear of the Lord back to the people of this country.  These things have not come to pass by a long shot.  http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/07/23/the-fires-of-hell-burn-bright-for-220genergation.

Kim Clement is sitting in the same situation…

 

Kim Clement

It’s the same old song and tap-dance

Scenario: A man claims to be a prophet of God. After being caught in multiple false prophecies, he becomes offended, defensive, and all teary-eye when he receives “negative” feedback from Christians who apply the Biblical tests and expose him as a false prophet.

With a wink and a nod, the false prophet makes excuses, seeks sympathy from his followers, and goes to great lengths to twist Scripture to maintain his self-appointed position and following. He feeds his deep-seated pride and arrogance by rewriting and reinterpreting God’s written word. He leads his followers to a false god. His desire is to be the final authority-without question-despite what God’s word says.

It needs to be restated over and over again: Throughout the Bible, God has ZERO TOLERANCE for false prophets. There is no fellowship between God and false prophets (Deuteronomy chapter 13; Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Jeremiah 14:14; Jeremiah 23:31-32; Ezekiel 13:9; Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Peter 2:1).

False prophets are NOT members of the body of Christ, nor are they brothers and sisters in Christ. Every false prophet will have his or her day of reckoning with God at God’s appointed time (Matthew 7:21-23; Revelation 20:11-15).

Just as one cannot be a thief and a law abiding citizen at the same time, one cannot be a false and true prophet at the same time.

Singing and dancing

Known as the “singing prophet,” Kim Clement is a self-proclaimed prophet of God who sings “new revelations” from God and tap-dances his way around false prophecies at the drop of a hat.

In the following paragraphs from an article titled, “Special Message,” note that Kim Clement’s admission to being a false prophet carries with it a subtle warning to his followers, as well as those who would dare speak a word against him:

I want you to have a good time and I want you to know something, that I am genuinely in love with God. I don’t have to tell you that, but I want you to know that I do. And there will also be critics that will be watching now because you don’t understand prophecy, and I understand that. Half the time I don’t even understand myself.

The Bible says we prophesy in part and when I prophesy, I prophesy what I hear. “Kim, are you ever wrong?” Yes I am.  So, if you’re out there to trick me or trip me up, you are wasting your time because I go to God three times a day and I pray. And if I’ve done something that may have misrepresented him I ask him to forgive me. If you don’t fully understand the prophecies it’s best that you don’t get up and try to pull me to pieces making out that I’m a false prophet. There’s a big difference between a false prophet and a true prophet. Now some of you and a lot of you wrote to me and you blessed me, and I thank you for that, but some of your wrote in with concerns that I said some things on this last broadcast where I prophesied from God which I will not apologize about, but I used some language. [June 24, 2010, http://kimclementvault.com/prophecyread.asp?num=410 , emp. added]

Amazing. Simply amazing. When a false prophet looks his audience in the eye and admits he is a false prophet, the long and winding deceptive train has arrived, belching its poisonous steam down the throats of the innocent.

Decision time

Kim Clement is a prophet of God only because he says he is. He sings an incredibly deceptive siren’s song which, like the Sirens in Greek mythology, he woos and sings to his followers, and becons them to crash their spiritual boats onto the rocky shore of destruction and death.

Kim Clement avoids the Biblical warnings on false prophets in favor of “new revelations from God” and what he claims to hear. But God’s written word judged Clement a false prophet the moment he uttered his first false prophecy. He downplays the very God he claims to worship, and tap-dances around God’s holy and inspired word to his own destruction.

Kim Clement is a false prophet. He is to be avoided at all costs.

And how can Christians recognise a false prophet?

Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). The best way to guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers is to know the truth. To spot a counterfeit, study the real thing. Any believer who “correctly handles the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15) and who makes a careful study of the Bible can identify false doctrine. For example, a believer who has read the activities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Matthew 3:16-17 will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity. Therefore, step one is to study the Bible and judge all teaching by what the Scripture says. [ http://www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html ]

Take your pick:    Kim Clement or God.

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Please read this article:  False Prophet Kim Clement – A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

This article examines Kim Clements teaching in-depth, and lists all this failed prophecies to date.  

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Elmarie A

False prophets are NOT members of the body of Christ, nor are they brothers and sisters in Christ. Every false prophet will have his or her day of reckoning with God at God’s appointed time (Matthew 7:21-23; Revelation 20:11-15).

True words indeed.

M G

Hi ,
I just would like to point out that you have taken Kim’s words out of context. If you read that whole article from the Den Vault Kim is saying that he makes mistakes, referring to calling the President of the USA a “fool”. He is saying that he used the wrong words to get the message across. It is possible to use the wrong words when prophesying, because the Holy Spirit will never “possess” you, He guides you in the message. Also God says you will know them by their fruits… and as far as I can see Kim has good fruit.
It’s never wise to criticize a man of God.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

MG

No, Kim Clement is 100% FALSE PROPHET and if he lived in the OT he would have been stoned. Luckily for him he lives in the 21st century where he can swindle people like you.

RICHARD SCHURZ

Dear brother in Jesus,

God says, “I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times. what is still to come!…What I have said, that will I bring about; what I have planned that will I do!”  Isaiah 46:10a, 11b  This Bible study compares all the Scripture on each End-time topic and exposes over 12 absolute contradictions of God’s Word by dangerous and deceptive pre-trib doctrines. The next Bible study shows the 7 Bible clues which positively reveals the identity of 666. And finally there is a Bible study which shows how Obama may qualify to be the very deceptive False Prophet of 666.
Would greatly appreciate any comments or Bible studies you may have on the Last Days.  
Your eternal friend in Jesus, 
Richard

WHAT IS THE FIRST END TIME EVENT CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR??  
 
[EDITED – I have removed the second on trying to debunk the rapture – it’s TOTALLY incorrect. You need to have a correct dispensational view to understand the rapture. I have many articles on this matter:

http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/06/the-rapture-an-article-to-knock-your-socks-off/

PLEASE read ALL the comments as well under each of the articles as all questions that could possibly ever be asked have been answered fully on this matter.]

WHO WILL BE GOD’S TWO WITNESSES {REV 11:3} OR MEN {REV 11:6} OR PROPHETS {REV 11:10}??

Zechariah 4:11,14: “Then I asked the angel, ‘What are these *TWO* OLIVE TREES {See Rev 11:4 below} on the right and left of the lamp stand?’… the angel said, ‘These are the TWO who are anointed to serve the Lord of the earth!'”  Rev 11:3-6: {God said to John} “I will give power to My *TWO* witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days clothed in sackcloth! These are the *TWO OLIVE TREES {See Zech 4:11,14 above} and the 2 lamp stands that stand before the Lord of the earth. If anyone tries to harm them, fire will come from their mouths to destroy their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die {See 2 Kings 1:9-12; Num 16:31-35}. These *MEN* will have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying {See 1 Kings 17:1; Luke 4:25; James 5:17}; and they will have power to turn the waters into blood {See Exodus 7:15-23} and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish.”   Moses and Elijah witnessed to 3 Apostles on the mount of Transfiguration when Moses & Elijah spoke to Jesus about his departure or Ascension, which Jesus was to bring to fulfillment in Jerusalem 40 days after His resurrection. Luke 9:30,31: “TWO MEN Moses and Elijah, appeared in GLORIOUS SPLENDOR talking with Jesus.  They spoke about His Departure {Or Ascension} which He was about to bring to fulfillment in Jerusalem.” Moses and Elijah were most assuredly the *TWO MEN* dressed in white who witnessed at the Departure or Ascension of Jesus in Acts 1:10,11: “They looked up into the sky as He {Jesus} was going when suddenly *TWO MEN* dressed in white stood beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into Heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into Heaven!”       And then in Luke 24:2b-6b we read: They did not find the body of Jesus. While they were wondering about this, suddenly *TWO MEN*… stood beside them… And the *MEN* said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? HE IS NOT HERE; HE HAS RISEN!!”    Jesus says in John 8:17b: “The testimony of *TWO MEN IS VALID* and of course the testimony of Moses and Elijah is just about as valid as you can get.        And so the coming of God’s *TWO MEN* or witnesses to prophesy for 1260 days {See Rev 11:3-7} will be their FOURTH appearance as God’s 2 witnesses or MEN. And the reason that their names are not mentioned in Luke 24:3 and Acts 1:10 and Revelation 11:3-12 is that God as well as Moses and Elijah want us to glorify *NO ONE ELSE BUT JESUS*!!   
 
I have removed the rest of this article because there are some things wrong with it. 1) The person who writes this is Amillennialist – they believe the temple was destroyed in 70AD and won’t be rebuilt. As for the above, yes Elijah and Moses will be the two end time witnesses.

THE ANTI-CHRIST IS NERO CESAR.

As for the Anti-Christ being Nero Cesar. Could be. Either way, it’s going to be a very bad man. But no one know what Nero looked like. If he looked a little like Rick Warren, let me know.

INTERESTING SPECULATION AS TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT OBAMA MAY BE THE FUTURE FALSE PROPHET OF 666.

Obama is something that is for sure.

      

nate

Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

MG
No, Kim Clement is 100% FALSE PROPHET and if he lived in the OT he would have been stoned. Luckily for him he lives in the 21st century where he can swindle people like you.

Well why didn’t Jonah get stoned? Did he not give a false word. He actually said exactly what the Lord told him to say, yet it did not come forth. Does that mean Jonah was a false prophet??

Deborah (Discerning the World)

nate

If he said exactly what the Lord wanted him to say then it was not a false word was it. Duh!

John machado

May God forgive you for the hatred and judgement of his prophets tell me when was the last news of a true prophet and a real miracle.God requires mercy and not sacrifice,he who speaks for the father stirs love and salvation.He who is carnal speaks envy strife and makes their living on fear.God gave each beleiver and holy spirit do you really The God of Jesus the christ appointed you as a watchdog for him???

Deborah (Discerning the World)

John Machado

Are you Sylvia Machado’s relative? (She was a huge false prophetess who was bust with gold glitter in her hair)

Anyhow, you said, ” tell me when was the last news of a true prophet and a real miracle.” GOOD QUESTION!!! WELL if you go back to the Bible you will see plenty. Now-a-days? NONE! Because there are no more prophets after Jesus. Only false ones (of which Kim Clement falls into this category). The next time we will see true prophets again will be during the TRIBULATION amongst Israel.

I am not a watchdog, good grief, where did you get that rubbish from. A Watchman yes, to guard all the millions of people who fall into the hands of wolves dressed as sheep. I am here to blow my horn loud and warn people that this man is NOT a man of GOD but another god.

Michael

A watch dog??? that’s funny…on a very much lighter note I am sure the Lord does not need a watch dog to protect Him…(the Lord Jesus Christ has a very good sense of humour)

Michael

On second thoughts…during the Toronto meetings it appears that there were a few watch dogs around…

“Another characteristic of the Toronto Phenomenon is people making animal noises and acting like animals. The two most common such behaviors, so far, have been barking like a dog and roaring like a lion.”

Prophetess Donna Stenson

Greetings Prophet Clement: God wants you to continue to do His work. Always remember, Hod told Jonah to prophesy, he did as God said. Because the people repented, God changed His mind!

Prophetess Donna Stenson

God dropped you in my spirit … I want to encourage you to keep your focus and don’t concern yourself with nay sayers. People seem to forget that God is sovereign and that He does and can change His mind. Hezekiah was to die per the prophecy .. but, God changed His mind. God told Jonah to prophesy that He was going to destroy Ninevah, but they repented and God changed His mind. Unfortunately, some people are so quick to sin by judging the men and women of God. I encourage you to watch the shifting that God has done within you since you have been attacked. Dare to continue to allow God to use you. Fear not, God is with you! This is your confirmation that you asked God to send. It is time … Now is the time! Continue and watch God soar you to the top! Before every shifting, there is a shaking! Graciously, Prophetess Donna Stenson

Michael

Many years ago I attended a tent meeting in Pinetown KZN…under Pinetown Christian Centre (Rodney Seago was pastor…I knew him fairly well…a nice guy and genuinely sincere) where a woman Jan Painter (a self appointed prophetess) was appearing along with Drummond Thom an American Evangelist who was born in SA and Kim Clement on piano.I was into this form of worship and charisma as my brother was married into a French Mauritian family (Ex Roman Catholics that broke away and got involved in the glossolalia experience that we believed was of the Holy Spirit.By the grace of God I have broken out of this delusion although at the time I know I was genuinely SAVED…in those days it was not so bad as the gospel of repentance and new person was occassionally preached even by these charismatics…including Drummond Thom. But Jan Painter selected a group of people in the meeting even including me ) and “prophetised” over me saying that I was going to be a huge financier of God’s money and that I would build great outreaches for God all over the world….that their would be extensions of His Kingdom and much money would pass through my hands and much would remain. All the time Kim Clement kept on playing the piano with great passion (and believe me he can play very well)…every now and then followed by interjections of amens and hallejulahs. I am so glad that this false prophesy did not come true as sometimes Satan has his hand in these things to get people to believe in false teachings.
I was hooked into all of this and believed in these charlatans for many years until the Holy Spirit began opening my eyes to the lies being told by leaders I was supposed to respect and follow…virtually all these guys have hidden agendas…Kim Clement does not surprise me.Actually it was Angus Buchan’s declaration of certain untruths that finally opened my eyes to the lack of integrity amongst these preachers…I started to read about Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen. Jakes ,Copeland etc and their gang and scales fell off my eyes…now I can genuinely lift my hallejulahs and praises to God as I have been been set free from this terrible evil that has befallen the modern church…it is a terrible abomination and Deb’s has my prayerful support in exposing this false teaching.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Michael

I would like to be a sausage dog – they are cute.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

“Another characteristic of the Toronto Phenomenon is people making animal noises and acting like animals. The two most common such behaviors, so far, have been barking like a dog and roaring like a lion.”

LOL

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Prophetess Donna Stenson

Why could you not ‘see ‘ that this is not KIM CLEMENTS WEBSITE and he wont be reading your comments because I guarantee you he can’t ‘see‘ your comments either.

Funny comment though. “This is your confirmation that you asked God to send? LOL is that how you guys do it? Just write a load of rubbish and then proclaim it is confirmation from God.

Let me see if I can try this…..

To Prophetess Donna Stenson.

Acts 16:16-19 (New King James Version)

16 Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” 18 And this she did for many days.
But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour.

Michael

“Prophetess” Donna hopes that “Prophet” Kim will read this somehow…maybe during one of their seances…”God dropped you in my spirit.”

This sounds like spiritualism to me…like Kathryn Kuhlman and Benny Hinn’s communication.

On a very much more sombre note…Spiritualism is a damnable abomination to the Lord Jesus Christ and truly saved Christians.

But on the lighter side it sounds ridiculous…like a transaction done by Tom Cruise in the unsavoury film “Cocktails”

Burning Lamp

Debs, I wonder what breed of dog they had in mind? A pit bull? Snicker – laugh – tee hee.
At least they didn’t call you a heretic hunter.

As for the “Prophetess:” mistaking your site for Kim Clement’s – that is too funny…..

Michael, did you mean to say that Angus B. pointed out false teachers? With all due respect I would rather believe that the Pope renounced Catholicism.

But nevertheless, glad you were delivered from all that charismnia and false teaching.

Michael

Debs and BL …not sure what type of breed would be suitable but yes…could have been a Heretic Hunter or Apostasy Alsation or maybe a Prophetic Poodle…However it has been known to bark warnings…..wof,wof,wof but some people do not take heed of this warning. Bred initially in the USA but is spreading increasingly into Africa and even Europe.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

I am The Discernment Dachshund who has the strength of a pitpull.

Sausage Dog on Guard

Michael

BL…”Michael, did you mean to say that Angus B. pointed out false teachers? With all due respect I would rather believe that the Pope renounced Catholicism”

No I certainly did not mean this… I know that what Angus has written and stated certain things that are simply not true and in my book that is totally unacceptable and makes a so-called advocate of the Way, a liar…thus causing me to investigate further into all these self proclaimed preachers,prophets, evangelists …call them what you like.
Many years I was trapped in this darkness…daring not to challenge these men and women…accepting their teachings and what I thought were almost perfect christians…maybe some with a few foibles but so what…none of us are exempt of sin which made me susceptible to the charismatic catch phrase …do not judge and do not speak against the annointed. Little did I know and like millions of blind followers that the annointing was either self delusion or demonic delusion.
The Holy Spirit showed me that God does NOT use liars…yes we all are not perfect but for men of the gospel…no..no…NO.

I thought about this carefully…if my doctor told me a lie about my health or about a medical condition or process would I go to him for health and medical assistance
Or if my financial advisor or stock broker told me an untruth and persuased me dishonestly and untruly….WHAT WOULD I DO….Obviously drop them and never go to them again. Now if a preacher…teacher…author in name of Christianity tells untruths in the name of God this is even far worse as it is my salvation in eternity that is at risk.
Therefore it became apparent to me that this is the frontline of the spiritual warfare and deception today..Satan works through these double agents and there is a huge force of blindness over the church today that prevents people from seeing these atrocities…people adamently protect and cover up the sins of their heroes and become people worshipers in opposed to defending the written Word in its right context.

Michael

Without being unkind and disrespectful…this is ludicrous…do people actually believe this absurdity…

“Continue and watch God soar you to the top! Before every shifting, there is a shaking! Graciously, Prophetess Donna Stenson”

Is the prophetess predicting the rapture or an earthquake or is Kim Clement going to follow in Mark Shuttleworth’s steps and become an astronaut (or cosmonaut if launched in Russia)
This really boggles the mind.

BERNARD

[EDITED by DTW: BERNARD, STOP IT!! YOUR COMMENTS ARE BEING DELETED BECAUSE YOU ARE BLINDED BY WILLIAM BRANHAM – SEEK HELP, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL SAVE YOU IS JESUS CHRIST

BERNARD

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Jemfishy

Michael,
My life experience is similar to your w.o.f. I was brought up in this doctrine and for some reason was too afraid to question or even think that what we were being taught could be wrong. Even if I did not understand what the so called pastors were preaching, or understand the ‘prophesies’ that were being prophesied or the so called tongues that nobody could understand, I would not dare question any of it, being too afraid that I would be questioning God and punished. We were told to go out and preach the Gospel to the unsaved, and I could not, even though in my heart I loved Jesus, I did not really understand what being saved really meant.
Even long into my adult life, I used to watch TBN and God Channel on a regular basis, and even when the Holy Spirit started to show me the errors in this doctrine, because now I was reading my Bible and I started to see a different Gospel to the one that was being preached by these so called pastors, I found myself trying to correct their doctrine but in such a way as to make excuses for them in my mind, as I was still so afraid to accuse them of preaching a false doctrine, until one day I was listening to Jan Crouch (Barbie Doll) say that if we the listeners, would write out a cheque for 5 thousand dollars to help them build a hospital
in Tahiti, then God would heal us of any illness that we have. That is when my eyes were opened, I thought, my act of writing out a cheque would make God heal me, my money bypasses asking Jesus to heal me and if I did not have any money to give, then I would have no hope of ever being healed. After that, I started to see what liars and con artists these people are, it got so bad, that I started to feel sick whenever I tried to watch and listen to these people. Satan uses a spirit of deception a spirit of blindness and an accusing spirit (the person being accused was me, thinking that I would be punished by God) to protect these false preaches, and false prophets etc. and anyone who watches, listens to and follows these false preaches does not realise it, but they have accepted these demonic spirits and that is why it is so difficult for them to come out of all false doctrines.

Burning Lamp

Jemfishy, you made a profound statement when you said that those who listen and follow the false teachings have accepted the demonic spirits and that is why it is so difficult for them to come out of the false doctrines. They have bought into the delusion and when leaven comes in, it multiplies. They are what they feed upon. But like you, many of them will finally break through the fog and come into the light of Truth. That is why we must keep on warning, keep on exposing these deeds of darkness until someone listens and takes heed. Most will not, but we can snatch a few from the fire.

Michael

That’s absolutely right BL and Jemfishy…it is horrific that this actual demonic stronghold has gripped the modern church…the fact that people like (ie Bernard and a host of others that try to defend these charlatans) react uncontrollably and bad manneredly is the character and the power of the evil underworld.
It is very sad because I believe some are genuinely sincere (I know I was) and it is because of this we should pray for God’s mercy on them and that they should be truly saved.

David

for those who dont believe there are no more prophets they need to read ephesians chapter 4 and acts 13:1-4 seriously people read your bible before you speak.God has a five fold not a one fold calling in ministry.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

David

>>for those who dont believe there are no more prophets they need to read ephesians chapter 4 and acts 13:1-4 seriously people read your bible before you speak.God has a five fold not a one fold calling in ministry.

No serious, you need to read yours. Prophets and Apostles ended with Jesus. All prophets pointed to Jesus Christ, all Apostles where physically appointed by Jesus. Today we only have teachers and preachers. As Christians we have the HOLY SPIRIT who guides us into all truth.

Michael

Agreed…no purpose for prophets since their mission was to point to the coming of the Messiah…The Lord Jesus Christ…all prophecy was fulfilled in Him alone and the completion of the scriptures. Our guidance comes only from the accurate obedience in the bible and the Holy Spirit who acts as the Comforter…the Reassurer(if I am permitted to use this term.) No strange predictions needed…these come from false prophets.
David I used to believe in the 5 fold ministry too for decades but found out it is totally and utterly false…people giving out predictions that never came true, although some did but there was even deception here as there was no relevance here, healings that were suspect (Satan is a trickster),there are genuine healings but they do NOT come about by self appointed healers and charlatans).I was healed By God from an infection called necrotising faciitis…deadly 3 out of 4 people die and those who survive end up with an amputation of a limb. I came out completely restored and enjoy good health…that was over 20 years ago.

The biggest relevation came to me when some of these big names told blatant LIES, LIES and more LIES.
I realised that these people were controlled by demon spirits…used the bible out of context,mixed their deceit with scripture (partial truths).The poison is administered in what appears to be authentic and desirable but is deadly because it is swallowed by naive and gullible trusting masses who indeed are genuinely seeking the answers to life. Yes, the REAL JESUS is the answer but NOT the Jesus that these decepters preach.

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