Comments on: Calvinism a Heretical Doctrine – That’s What the Bible Says!

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:58:06 +0000

JOHN CALVIN & CALVINISM
Author Unknown
CALVIN BELIEVED IN INFANT BAPTISM:
Calvin said, “Baptism is properly administered to infants is something owed to them.”
CALVIN BELIEVED IN SACRAMENTS EQUAL TO GOD’S WORD:
“Therefore, let it be regarded as a settled principle that the sacraments have the same office as the Word of God: to offer and set forth Christ to us, and in him the treasures of heavenly grace.”
CALVIN BELIEVED IN AMILLENNIALISM AND WAS AGAINST PREMILLENNIALISM:
Calvin said, “But a little later there followed the Chiliasts, who limited the reign of Christ to a 1000 years. Now their fiction is too childish either to need or to be worth a refutation. And the Apocalypse, from which they undoubtedly drew a pretext for their error, does not support them. For the number 1000 does not apply to the eternal blessedness of the church but only to the various disturbances that awaited the church, while still toiling on the earth.”
CALVIN BELIEVED IN PREDESTINATION TO HELL:
Calvin said, “We call predestination God’s eternal decree, by which he compacted with himself what he willed to become of each man. For all are not created in equal condition; rather, eternal life is foreordained for some, eternal damnation for others. Therefore, as any man has been created to one or the other of these ends, we speak of him as predestined to life or death.”
CALVIN BELIEVED IN BEING A DICTATOR IN GENEVA:
Calvin was forced to flee his native France and eventually found refuge In Geneva. A man of tremendous political and organizational talents, he manipulated himself, and his fellow refugees, into absolute control over the city which gave them protection against the Catholic Inquisition. What came to be known as Calvinism grew out of the policy and writings of John Calvin after he became the ruler and dictator of Geneva, Switzerland (1541-1564).
CALVIN BELIEVED IN RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION:
The outstanding work of Calvin, from a practical point of view, was his municipal dictatorship in the city of Geneva. The literature on the subject is exhaustive. Striking instances of discipline in Geneva are these: A man was banished from the city for three months because he heard an ass bray and said jestingly, “He prays a beautiful Psalm. “Three men who had laughed during a sermon were imprisoned for three days. Three children were punished because they remained outside of a church to eat some cakes. A child was whipped publicly for calling his mother a thief. A girl who struck her parents was beheaded. A person was imprisoned for four days because he wanted to call his child Claude (the name of a Catholic saint) instead of Abraham.
It can be seen from the above that many of the persecutions which John Calvin endured were not for “well doing” (1st Peter 2:15): they were for carrying on like a fool engaged in trying to “bring in his Kingdom.”
In Geneva, a secret police was forged under the name of The Consistory. Every home was compulsorily examined and searched. The City was divided into districts and committees of the Consistory were empowered to search and interrogate all residents without previous notice. Attendance at public worship was commanded and watchmen were directed to see that people went to church. The one thing that Calvin did not endorse was religious liberty.
From 1541 to 1546, John Calvin caused 58 people to be executed and seventy six were exiled. His victims ranged in age from 14 to 80. The most common capital offense was the opposition to infant baptism. Today, baptism only for accountable believer’s, is a Baptist distinctive. In Calvin’s time it was punished either by drowning, a drawn out and slow burning at the stake, or beheading. All this was done in public, with city residents compelled to watch the butchery. The executions were spaced out so as to exert a continuing policy of fear and terror. Others were killed for advocating local church autonomy; opposing the tie-in of church and state: and preaching that Christ died for all sinners (unlimited atonement). Press censorship continued in Geneva until the eighteenth century.
THE KILLING OF MICHAEL SERVETUS:
It is Servetus1 religious views that we are now concerned with, for that is what got him killed. He was premillennial and rejected Calvin’s doctrine of predestination. So far so good. Servetus was also strongly anti-Catholic. He referred to the Mass as “a Satanic monstrosity and an invention of demons.” To these sentiments the Reformers could agree. So what was the problem with Servetus? His trouble was twofold: rejection of infant baptism and holding unorthodox views of the Trinity. According to Servetus, infant baptism was “a doctrine of the Devil, an invention of popery, and a total subversion of Christianity.” He wrote two letters to Calvin on adult baptism and exhorted him to follow his example. The marginal, notes against infant baptism that Servetus wrote in Calvin’s Institutes were used as evidence against him during his trial. Servetus admitted at his trial that he had referred to infant baptism as a “diabolical invention and infernal falsehood destructive of Christianity.” Regarding the Trinity, Servetus was not a Unitarian but had a strange view of the Trinity in a great measure peculiar to himself. Now although Servetus’ Trinitarian views were not orthodox; they were by no means criminal. Calvin wrote in a letter, “Servetus lately wrote to me… He takes it upon him to come hither, if it be agreeable to me. But I am unwilling to pledge my word for his safety, for if he shall come, I shall never permit him to depart alive, provided my authority be of any avail. “While in Geneva, Servetus made the mistake of attending church on Sunday where he was recognized and arrested. It was on Calvin’s information to the magistracy that Servetus was put in prison, which fact Calvin did not deny. The trial lasted over two months and Calvin himself drew up a document of thirty-nine accusations against Servetus.
On the way to the stake, Servetus besought God to pardon his accusers. On account of the use of green oak-wood, Servetus suffered for half an hour. His last words were: “Jesus Christ, thou Son of the eternal God, have mercy on me!” At twelve noon on October 27, 1553, Servetus passed into his eternal destiny. Nine years afterward, Calvin still justified his actions.
(My Comments: Wouldn’t be something of Calvin went to hell & Servetus to heaven. Servetus called out to God for mercy, Calvin’s statement of faith never mentions God or Jesus Christ at all.)
The strongest recorded statement from Calvin on the Servetus affair is a 1561 letter from Calvin to the Marquis Paet, high chamberlain to the King of Navarre, in which he says intolerantly: “Honour, glory, and riches shall be the reward of your pains; but above all, do not fail to rid the country of those scoundrels, who stir up the people to revolt against us. Such monsters should be exterminated, as I have exterminated Michael Servetus the Spaniard.”
The respected Lutheran historian, Mosheim (1694-1755), judged in favor of Servetus. The historian Gibbon remarked: “he was more deeply scandalized at the single execution of Servetus than at the hecatombs which have blazed in the Auto da Fes of Spain and Portugal. The zeal of Calvin seems to have been envenomed by personal malice, and perhaps envy.” A man who would burn another man at the stake for disagreeing with him doctrinally is not a man to be emulated or followed or admired.
(Amen)
WHAT DID CALVIN BELIEVE?
Calvin’s Institutes just what it is claimed to be: a Protestant Reformed theology. If you want to know the truth about baptism, the Church, dispensations, the Millennium, or the Second Coming of Christ: don’t waste your time looking for them in Calvin’s Institutes. One of the few books in the Bible that Calvin never wrote a commentary on was the Book of Revelation – he acknowledged that he couldn’t understand it. The Reformed Faith is an amalgamation of biblical Christianity, Roman Catholicism, and allegorical speculations. When Loraine Boettner wrote his book The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination, he told the plain truth: “predestination in the Calvinistic system is a Reformed doctrine just like the Catholic Mass is a Catholic doctrine.”
THE HARM DONE BY CALVINISM HERESY:
Among Baptists, the Five Points of Calvinism are often called the “Doctrines of Grace” to remove the stigma of being associated with the baby-sprinkling John Calvin. In dealing with the Five Points of Calvinism, It is certainly fitting that five is the number of death, so the Five Points of Calvinism will kill anything near it. Just as it takes no keen intellect to see that five is the biblical number of death, so no insight is necessary, other than an ability to read the Bible, to see the flagrant perversion that the Five Points of Calvinism make of Holy Scripture. Satan, the angel of death is the fifth cherub (Ezekiel 28:14) and has the power of death (Hebrews 2:14). The first man dies in Genesis 5:5. In Acts 5:5, Ananias dies after being asked five questions about his sin (“The wages of sin is death” [Romans 6:23]). Paul was whipped five times (2nd Corinthians 11:24). Jesus Christ had five wounds. In Revelation chapter five, we see the Lamb that was slain (Revelation5). During the Tribulation, locusts will torment men for five months (Revelation 9:5) until they seek death (Revelation 9:6). When the fifth seal was opened, John saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain (Revelation 6:9). There were five men stoned in the Bible that died. The “sin unto death” is in First John chapter five. The greatest chapter in the Bible on death, describing two men whose deaths affected billions of people, is Romans chapter five.
The Five Points of Calvinism are the sum and substance of the Calvinistic system: it is the distinguishing mark which separates Calvinists from all other Christians. This is stated in no uncertain terms by the Calvinists themselves. Boettner says, “The Calvinistic system especially emphasizes five distinct doctrines. These are technically known as the Five Points of Calvinism, and they are the main pillar on which the superstructure rests.”
Calvinism goes into a realm of human philosophy. It is NOT a Bible doctrine, but a system of human philosophy appealing somewhat to the proud mind. Consider first that what we are discussing is called “Calvinism.” Dr. Loraine Boettner says, “It was Calvin who wrought out this system of theological thought with such logical clearness and emphasis that it has ever since borne his name”. How strange that, after 1,400 years of Christianity, practically no one had understood the Bible to teach Calvin’s doctrine of predestination until he formed the philosophy! What a strangely hidden doctrine, that New Testament Christians could go for nearly for 1400 years until the days of the reformers, when Calvin developed the doctrine fully. It is obvious that great groups of Christians have always found salvation by grace in the Bible. The Bible is very clear on that. It is also clear on every other great doctrine.
A doctrine cannot be unscriptural without doing actual harm. God’s way is right; man’s way is wrong. And when the doctrine on the matter of salvation is wrong, it is certain to hinder the cause of Christ. So the human philosophy of Calvinism, the doctrine that every detailed event that happens in all the world was foreordained of God and had to happen, every sin was ordained of God, every act of a Christian or of a sinner, and that everyone was either foreordained to be saved before he was born, without having any free choice in the matter, or was damned without any possibility of his being saved-that doctrine is hurtful and has done great harm to the cause of Christ.
CALVINISTS ACTUALLY HINDER AND OPPOSE SOUL WINNING
If it seems shocking to accuse any group of opposing Gospel preaching and hindering soul winning, a little thought here will show that Calvinists must inevitably oppose soul-winning activities of those who try to get every sinner to repent, of those who offer salvation freely as purchased on Calvary for every person.
One shocking example deals with a Baptist preacher who could easily preach two hours on predestination, but his own grown sons were unconverted, and the father was not only totally indifferent about that matter, but insisted that no one else should try to win them to Christ.
Of course there will be exceptions. Some people who are Calvinists do love Christ in their hearts and so feel His moving of concern for sinners. And most Calvinists will profess that they believe in the preaching of the Gospel to all the world. But in actual practice. Calvinism cuts the nerve of soul winning on the foreign mission field as it does at home.
Did a great foreign mission program arise through the teaching and preaching of John Calvin? Many Calvinists will regret this fact. But the simple truth is that today those most active and most burdened about soul winning on the foreign field among Presbyterians are not those who believe in Calvin’s doctrine of predestination.
In fact, nine out of ten Presbyterians do not believe it, and the great mission program of Presbyterians was not built by Calvinists.
As the Wesleyan revival spread in England, of course it affected many others besides Methodists and many besides Arminians. Most of the Bible-believing, soul-winning Christians in the world are NOT Arminian. But very few soul winners are unreserved Calvinists. Calvinism does not produce a passion for soul winning.
Calvinism appeals to those who think that it is the only answer to Arminianism. There are very many Christians that are soul-winners, love God, seek the salvation of the lost and yet ARE NEITHER Calvinists nor Arminian.
BIBLE DOCTRINES SHOW THAT CALVINISM IS MORALLY IMPOSSIBLE:
God could not predestinate one to do right and another to do wrong; one to be saved and one to be lost. Those who believe that God predestined some people to be saved by God’s coercive grace, and that others are predestined to be lost and cannot be saved because of God’s deliberate choice, are foolishly wrong. They are wrong in having a doctrine that goes totally against so many emphatic Scripture statements inviting all to be saved, showing that Christ died for all, that God is not willing that any should perish. The Bible pictures man as a free moral agent capable of choice, he is morally responsible.
There is the nature of man as it is pictured in the Bible and as it actually exists. God breathed into Adam’s nostrils and he “became a living soul.” He was made in the image of God. And what is this about man that is God-like? He is a reasoning creature with a moral responsibility, a conscience toward right and wrong, with the freedom of choice in right and wrong. The simple truth is that men can make a computer which can go through complicated mental processes of adding, subtracting, remembering, judging, hundreds of times faster than man can do it! But the computer has no will, no conscience of right or wrong. Hence it has no personality. It lacks the God-given moral nature of man.
Why did God allow Adam and Eve to fall, and so bring a curse on the whole human race? It was inherent in the kind of being that God created; man must be allowed to choose. But knowing man sometimes would choose wrongly, God planned with His Son before the world began to offer an atonement for the salvation of sinning men! So Christ is “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”
REFERENCES:
1. Christianity Through The Centuries by Earle Cairns, Zondervan Publishing House.
2. History of Calvin and Calvinism by Zygmund Dobbs.
3. Predestined for Hell? No! by Dr. John R. Rice, c 1958, Sword of the Lord Foundation, Murfreesboro, Tenn.
4. Hyper Calvinism by Dr. Peter S. Ruckman c 1984, published in Pensacola, Florida.
5. The Other Side of Calvinism by Laurence M. Vance, c 1991, Vance Publications.
6. T-U-L-I-P by James R. Hood, Southland Bible Institute, Pikeville, Ky.
7. The History of the New Testament Church by Dr. Peter S. Ruckman c 1982, published in Pensacola, Florida.
8. Foreknowledge, Predestination & Election by Dr. Mark G. Cambron, printed by Seaside Mission, North Miami Beach, Florida.
9. What is Wrong with Five Point Calvinism? By Paul Freeman, published by Highways & Hedges Tracts, Liberty, So. Carolina.

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:35:24 +0000

No, the problem for you is he does know Calvinism. I will not belabor the point. If you choose to believe a lie then you have that freedom to do so.

Matt wrote:

It’s clear that the author of this article knows nothing of Calvinism. The essence of Calvinism is that God saves sinners.

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 01:08:57 +0000

Here’s a new Calvinistic Bible for you Matt…..enjoy.

The New Predestinated Version of the Bible
Copyright 2007 By: Steven M. McCalip
Reader can copy and distribute freely. Not intended for sale or profit
Website: http://www.kingjamesman.com

Introduction: The following are verses from the Bible (King James) that have been changed to match the exact teachings of Calvinism. All Calvinists believe that the changes made to these verses are the real meaning of the original verses. For example, everywhere you see the word “SOME” is where the word “all” or “every” was in the King James. This is not some exaggerated claim. These verses below are exactly how the Calvinites believe the meaning to be. All the original verses either say the opposite or have the word “all” in them. In order to see the full impact of Calvinistic beliefs, I have made this new translation. This translation is not in any way different than what they believe; they just haven’t made this translation yet. I saved them some trouble. If you can read the following verses and believe that the word “SOME” is the true meaning, then congratulations, you are a Calvinist. If this translation doesn’t sit well with you, then congratulations, you might not be a Calvinist. More verses are coming soon!
Romans 1:16 New Predestinated Version:
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to SOME that believeth.
Romans 1:16 King James For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;
Romans 2:11 New Predestinated Version:
For there IS respect of persons with God.
Romans 2:11 King James For there is no respect of persons with God.
Romans 3:22 New Predestinated Version:
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto SOME and upon SOME of them that believe: for there IS a difference:
Romans 3:22 King James
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 5:6 New Predestinated Version:
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the SOME of the ungodly.
Romans 5:6 King James
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly
Romans 5:8 New Predestinated Version:
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for SOME of us.
Romans 5:8 King James
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:18 New Predestinated Version:
Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon SOME men unto justification of life.
Romans 5:18 King James
Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
1 Timothy 2:4-6 New Predestinated Version:
Who will have SOME men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and SOME men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for SOME, to be testified in due time.

1 Timothy 2:4-6 King James
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1 Timothy 3:10 New Predestinated Version:
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of SOME men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 3:10 King James
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Peter 3:18 New Predestinated Version:
For Christ also hath once suffered for SOME sins, the just for SOME of the unjust, that he might bring SOME of us to God…
1 Peter 3:18 King James
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God…
Revelation 3:20 New Predestinated Version:
Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if SOME men hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to SOME of them, and will sup with SOME of them, and SOME of them with me.
Revelation 3:20 King James
Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Matthew 11:28 New Predestinated Version:
Come unto me, SOME of ye that are weak and heavy laden, and I will give SOME of ye rest.
Matthew 11:28 King James
Come unto me, all ye that are weak and heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matthew 7:8 New Predestinated Version:
For SOME that asketh receiveth, and SOME that seeketh findeth, and to SOME that knocketh it shall be opened.
Matthew 7:8 King James
For all that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth, and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
John 1:7 New Predestinated Version:
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that SOME men through him might believe.
John 1:7 King James
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
John 1:9 New Predestinated Version:
That was the true Light, which lighteth SOME men that cometh into the world.
John 1:9 King James
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
John 1:12 New Predestinated Version:
But as to SOME which received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God.
John 1:12 King James
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God.
John 1:29 New Predestinated Version:
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away SOME of the sins of the world!
John 1:29 King James
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sins of the world!

John 3:15-17 New Predestinated Version:
That SOME who believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved SOME of the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that SOME who believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn SOME of the world; but that SOME of the world through him might be saved.
John 3:15-17 King James
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The Bible: Is the only book that God, the great I AM ever wrote. The WORD means exactly what it says.
We will be judged for how we handled the Word of God. 2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself
approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

In Calvinism/TULIP there are five (5) points.
In Scripture the number five (5) represents DEATH

Matt wrote:

It’s clear that the author of this article knows nothing of Calvinism. The essence of Calvinism is that God saves sinners.

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 01:04:24 +0000

The “essence” of Calvinism…it’s essence stinks because it is a LIE. Calvinist love to think they have cornered the market on Salvation oh I mean election…..that is what you call it …right?

Sorry Matt…Calvinism has perverted the Glorious and Simple Gospel of Jesus Christ who said of himself, If I be lifted up, I will draw ALL men unto me. Oh I’m sorry, ALL doesn’t mean all to you Calvinists. Good grief….

Matt wrote:

It’s clear that the author of this article knows nothing of Calvinism. The essence of Calvinism is that God saves sinners.

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:11:52 +0000

Never get into a debate with a Calvinist. How often have I heard that? Why not? Are we not all Christians? Precisely the point.

Calvinism is preaching another Jesus from the same Bible, but refracted through the lens of Calvin/Augustine. Why would they bother arguing if we are both talking about the same Jesus? No…they are talking about a Jesus who is the product of twisted teaching. Educated, philosophical, orthodox sounding, but twisted none the less. We preach Jesus who came to save us from our sins, who comes to dwell in us if we repent and acknowledge our lostness without him. It produces in us a love, without stealth…cover-up. But how has Calvinism operated? By stealth, which is by definition disguise and deceit…they talk about Jesus but it is a different Jesus and they know it, but most unsuspecting Christians do not know it until they get assimilated into the cult.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Here are two definitions of dissimulation:
disguise
Synonyms: beard, blind, cloak, concealment, cover, coverup,deceit, deceptive marking, dissimulation , faking,false appearance, front, guise, mask, masking,masquerade, mimicry, paint, plain brown wrapper,protective coloring, red herring, screen, shade,shroud, smokescreen, veil
practice of misleading
Synonyms: ambidexterity, ambidextrousness, artifice,cheating, chicane, chicanery, cozening, craft,craftiness, cunning, deceitfulness, deception,defrauding, dirty dealing, dirty pool, dishonesty,dissemblance, dissimulation , double-dealing,duplicity, entrapping, fraud, fraudulence, guile,hypocrisy, imposition, overreaching, pretense,slyness, smoke and mirrors, trapping, treachery,trickery, two-facedness, two-timing,underhandedness

Matt, those raised in Calvinism, are so indoctrinated that they just believe that everyone else is wrong. You need Calvin, though, in order to keep your idol of Calvinism alive…by just reading the Scriptures and talking to other Christians, you would see that you must be born again. That involves God-given choice, not the predestination doctrine of Calvin.

As in all cults, you must come out and be separate or you will not be set free from the delusion.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:48:06 +0000

In reply to Matt. Matt No no, The god of Calvinism does not save, he predestines.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:52:56 +0000

It’s clear that the author of this article knows nothing of Calvinism. The essence of Calvinism is that God saves sinners.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 04:47:53 +0000

In reply to Sue. Sue Thanks Sue! I have emailed him, you should be getting an email soon.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:32:22 +0000

In reply to Myfanwy Brown. Myfanwy >> So how would you say that Calvinists/Reformed would explain it, if one of them were to completely reject Christianity? Would they say that the person is still saved because they were ‘chosen’? That is a very good question. I have no idea how they would explain this.

By: Myfanwy Brown

Myfanwy Brown — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:55:05 +0000

So how would you say that Calvinists/Reformed would explain it, if one of them were to completely reject Christianity? Would they say that the person is still saved because they were ‘chosen’?

I always wondered why kids were ‘confirmed’ .. I did not understand what was behind that belief, I just knew it was different to what I was taught. You would think I would have tried to find the answer! I guess it was just not important to me when I was not even clear on my own beliefs (even tho’ I thought I was clear on it).