Turn2God at the Union Buildings was…

Turn2God at the Union Buildings was…A Call to a Christian type of Shaira law

Line up:
Angus Buchan * Keke * Soweto Gospel Choir * Graham Power * Elza Meyer * Zane Maes * Retief Burger * Jackson Xhosa * Lionel Peterson * Bennie Mostert * Joe Niemand * Louis Brittz * Rhema South Worship Team *  Marlon Van * Nedine Blom * Soekie and the Radikids, etc.

It was your typical Dominionist fashioned, Apostolic and Prophetic, stake your patch of kingdom earth before it’s too late, unbiblical nonsense.

Elza Meyer had a vision from God one morning to host Turn2God.

They expected 40,000 people to show up and pay +/- R100 for seats.  (These things are no longer for free).   But instead her god only managed to get 15,000 paying people to show up, or less.

The rest of the day there was this echo from the stage where the speakers constantly reminded us how terrible it was that people actually took their invitation to sit on the grass for free.

There also seemed to be terrible feedback from the speakers; mumbles and grumbles that said “if no one came….they would have carried on worshipping God all by themselves.”   Their constant hinting at the lack of turnout and paying attendees was very sad.   Bennie Mostert told the crowd much later during the day, during a ‘Give us Money’ spree that they (the pastors) were very very poor, underpaid and needed money.

Elza says of the musicians;  Soweto Gospel Choir, a full orchestra along with Retief Burger, Joe Niemand and Louis Brittz who are singing praise and worship tunes, that their music will “usher us into the Holy of Holies“.

Flag bearers came walking toward the stage from the North, the South, the East and the West carrying flags from each country of the world where Dominionist missionaries operate.  These flags were placed in place holders at the front of the stage.  The entire process symbolised countries coming together in UNITY to ask God for mercy.

Before the Turn2God gathering took place there were little spiritual warriors that had strategically moved from each province, going through towns, praying over them, binding them using territorial spiritual warfare, by way of collecting SOIL from each town they stopped at.  This symbolised their ‘capturing’ of that land and ‘reclaiming’ it for God.

Elza Meyer tells us that back in 1999 there was a prophecy about a silver trumpet that would be blown in South Africa.  “The blowing of the silver trumpet will bring salvation to this nation” we were told.  Well to our amazement a guy steps out on stage and starts blowing a silver trumpet.  Wow,  a prophecy fulfilled right in front of our eyes.  How many people fell for that one?

Later a guy comes out (not sure if it was the same guy that blew the silver trumpet) and he blows a gold trumpet.  I have no idea why!   But I am guessing we will possibly find out at the next show that on the 6th March 2010 a gold trumpet was blown and that signified the fulfilment of a prophecy of the silver trumpet being blown.  Errr….

Elza speaks about ‘cutting covenant’ with God and that it was the most fearful day of her life.  I am not sure why.  Because being born again is the most joyful day of ones life.  But if we look at the god she serves (based on false teaching) it becomes horribly clear as to why she is so scared.  Another reason why she had to continuously let us know how fearful this ‘cutting of the covenant’ was (which, by the way is totally unbiblical), was to let us know that she can be trusted, she would never lie and this covenant has her dangling from a thread – any wrong move from her would seriously damage her covenant with God.

Linda Gobodo from Vuka Africa comes on stage and tell us how ‘they’ went around and BROKE UNGODLY ALTARS across the different provinces of South Africa and then stopped in Pretoria and created a NEW ALTAR TO GOD.  Linda gives a message to Elza and says, “God is going to restore Africa, Believe it!”

Up comes Bennie Mostert a pastor at the NGK Moreletapark and runs the prayer ministry Jericho Walls.  He speak about corruption in this country and how bad it is and that South Africa needs to turn back to God.  Just as the government has a bad rep for stealing money, the church has a bad reputation for stealing money too and this needs to stop, he says.

He then mentions Malachi 4 and says that if we don’t tithe we bring a curse on this country.   How’s that for a  solution to sin?   These people speak about repentance of sin, but it’s only said for ‘show’.   Tithing to the church, giving your money away has replace repentance.  So based on what Bennie said,  the model should look something like this:

 

  • Government is corrupt
    • Church is corrupt
      • Church does not tithe – they rob God
        • God curses land
  • Church tithes
    • God is no longer being robed of his Old Testament LAW of tithes
      • Church becomes uncorrupt
        • Government becomes uncorrupt
  • God blesses land

Bennie speaks about Love and Grace.  He said that if you point fingers at others you don’t have grace. How do you overcome this finger pointing problem?  Well, you pray many times a day not to point fingers he says.  Bennie then points fingers at the people of South Africa and at the Union Building and says “every sin we can point out in government we can point out in the church”.  Sin is not paying your tithes he tries to persuade us again.

The music kicks in and one of the main musician’ Louis Brittz says, “There is a special anointing when you sing African music to the Lord.”

Graham Power steps up to the plate and tells us how Peter Pollock (who publishes ‘Prepare the Way’ magazine) led him to pray the sinner’s prayer with him one morning at a breakfast meeting.  18 months later Graham had 3 visions between 4am and 6am in the morning.

Vision 1

God told him to hire Newlands for the Global Day of Prayer where all churches of all denominations will come together, hold hands and pray and the prayer movement will roll across the world.  This prayer meeting took place and approximately 320 million people around the world prayed in one massive ecumenical prayer day.

Vision 2

He awakes one morning with electricity running through his body, convulsing like nuts, and God shows him a vision of 3 waves:

  1. 1st wave:  The prayer wave
  2. 2nd wave:  The ethics, values and clean living wave
  3. 3rd wave:  The revival, transformation of South Africa and Africa wave

Graham Power never went on to mention his 3rd vision.  Or was it this one:

In his talk Graham again reviewed the vision that he had of transforming South Africa, Africa and eventually the whole world. He devoted much attention to an experience that he had in February 2002 when he attended a prayer breakfast for men in Stellenbosch. The speaker was a 28-year old Coloured man of Khoi descent. He was a former gangster whose whole body is tattooed. The topic that morning was “The Holy Spirit.” Afterwards, the speaker invited the men to come forward and receive the Holy Spirit.  One of them ran away but most remained behind to receive the “blessing” of being slain in the Spirit.

Graham said that when he was touched on his shoulder he fell down but rose again after a short while. He fell down two more times. The third time he lay on the ground for 1½ hours. He felt an electric-like current flowing through his body while having “an amazing experience.” He also heard a voice speaking to him, saying, “I am the spine,” (six times), “I am the head of the spine” (six times), “I am the king” (six times) and “I am the king of kings” (six times).

Immediately afterwards, Graham had an experience outside his body. He saw himself lying on the floor on his back with his arms stretched out in the form of a cross. He then saw Africa forming around his body with his feet in Cape Town and his head in Egypt. His hands pointed toward East and West Africa. He felt a strange sensation of pain rising from his feet and legs through his spine to his shoulders and arms. He interpreted this as a revival and transformation movement that will spread from South Africa to central Africa, and eventually to the whole of Africa. He also saw his arms becoming longer and reaching around the globe. This indicated that the movement that has started in South Africa would ultimately encompass the whole world.   PLEASE SEE HERE FOR FULL ARTICLE  —  Graham Power & Angus Buchan – The Transformation of Africa

The 3rd Wave is what the New Apostolic Reformation with C. Peter Wagner in the USA have been speaking about for a few years now.  And I always wondered what on earth they were talking about.  It was not The 3rd Wave, but 3 waves.

In between all this somewhere Turn2God uses our rugby players to help gain support for their One World Religious cause.  I can’t remember who they were, but they were helping some guy promote ‘Turn2God’ rugby and soccer balls that you can guy and give to family and friends that will somehow lead them to God.  (I think at this point I was trying to find food to eat – so I was not paying to much attention).

Graham Power introduces us to Steve Johnson who pops onto the stage and speaks about an initiative called Unashamedly Ethical who’s logo is the shape of a little rainbow. He challenges the people into signing a pledge that states they are unashamedly Christian by submitting themselves to a new set of 10 commandments. You will then be governed by a Christian Ombudsman (the Christian version of Muslim Shira law).  Graham Power says it only takes 3 to 4% of the countries population to make a huge impact.

Bennie Mostert comes back on and then in typical contradictory fashion says that Chrisitians never challenge each other.  But Steve Johnson challenged the people to sign the form.  He even asked the crowd to stand if they are willing to sign.  Of course 99% stood, what ever are they to do? Keep sitting?  They are all Christians after all.

Bennie Mostert held a ‘Give us Money’ campaign.  He shared that they needed R1.1 million to cover their costs.  But does not mention what costs they need to cover.  A bit of transparency would have been nice.

‘Who will give us R25,000?’ he said.  ‘Please put your hand up.  That’s R25,000.  Thank you sir, in the back.  Who can give us R25,000?  Thank you mam.  Thank you.  Please just stand up. Thank you over there….  Ok who can give us R10,000…. *hands go up*, who can gives us R5000…. *more hands go up*, who can give us R1000?  *even more hands go up*.  Who can spare just R500!” he says.   By now 70% of the 15,000 crowd are standing.

If you don’t have cash with you, don’t worry, there are ATM’s available as mentioned earlier on in the day.

Soekie (Sandra) Schoeman led a group of little kids onto the stage; they had been practising their ‘onward little Christians soldiers’ song for ages now and wanted to perform it to the crowd.

These children are none the wiser as to the false Christian movement they have been forced into.  They really do believe in Jesus.  Soekie and her Joel’s Army band of brothers on that other hand know EXACTLY what they are following and it’s not the Jesus Christ as mentioned in the Bible.  They are trying to create a ‘New Breed’ of Christian and are using your children to do it.  These children came from orphanages, they are well looked after I am sure, but are being led into something they know nothing about.

After this, a lot of talk went into how ‘Children are the future’ and that children are going to play a BIG part in the end time Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God harvest.

All politicians are called onto the stage.  You would expect the likes of Julius Dilemma to show up (after all he needs the most prayer).  But nope, surprise;  Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille shows up and Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Mulder.  Elza makes a very quick apology to the crowd; there were supposed to be more politicians appearing on stage, but they did not show up.

Angus, Jackson Xhoza, Graham, Elza, Bennie and the some others start praying over Helen Zulle. It was a huge display of interfaith in action.

Zille told Rapport she shared the crowd’s belief in the importance of love. Mulder said the Christian faith had to be lived voluntarily and not enforced by law, as some speakers at the event called for.     —

Thank you Pieter Milder for having 2 open eyes.  I hope.

Then Angus Buchan finally comes onto the stage.  My potatoe chips are now really crispy after having to sit in the sun all day long. So what does Angus have to say to us?  Nothing.  It’s the same mumbo jumbo as before.   I must say that he definitely has a fixation with clouds.  As he knelt down to pray he pointed to a cloud gently flying by, being pushed by a normal breeze, that naturally moved in front of the sun for all of 10 seconds.  He declared that ‘sign’ as the presence of God!  Incredible.  Then a gentle cool breeze blew (like it did throughout the day), and he likened that to the Holy Spirit moving over the people.  Oh boy.

Anyhow, to cut a big potatoe really smaller – Angus, near the end of his performance shouts out at the top of his voice, ‘The time is NOW, for the MANIFESTATIONS OF THE SONS OF GOD!!!”

So when the event is finally nearing its end the Apostles and Prophets have gotta do it in style.  A Beautiful white horse is led between the crowd (down the isles) from the front of the stage toward the Union Buildings at the back.  The flag bearers pick up their flags again and follow the horse out of the crowd and move in their designated compass directions as before.

We were told by Elza that if you look really closely you will see Jesus riding the white horse.  No really. That’s what she said!  He is there, you just can’t see him.

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I had to do some serious ducking and diving to get these ‘ACTION’ photos.

Elza Meyer, Helen Zulle and Bennie Mostert (Left to right)

Angus Buchan praying over Helen Zulle and for all politicians

Graham Power and Steve Johnson from Unashamedly Ethical (Right to Left)

Angus Buchan declaring “The time is NOW for the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD”

Little Christian Soldiers – Children recruited for Joel’s Army

Flag bearers walking North, South, East and West (Spiritual Warfare)

Union Building with Flag bearers at North point

Imaginary Jesus sitting on the white horse – If you look closely you won’t see Him

Close up of White Horse and you still can’t see Jesus

Emergent/Ecumenical Minister ‘Deon Forster’ enjoying the Turn2God Praise and Worship Music

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Elmarie A

Thank You DTW !

Elmarie A

Now I know where Peter Polock fits in. aha

Elmarie A

Mmmm may be the GP got the “Mindless anointing” in vision 2 from Benny Hinn it is typical one of the plenty types available.

see link
The Mindless Anointing — Jesse Duplantis “The anointing of God was flowing, so I just kept saying, ” Glory to God! Thank you, Jesus!” . . .I don’t know what happened next, but all of a sudden I was in the Spirit. I didn’t feel or see anything. I was just in that fog, with smoke inside my car. . . My natural mind was not registering anymore in the car. I was caught up in the Spirit.”

or
The prophetic anointing — “Prophetic anointing is not just for prophets, it’s for the entire church.” “You need to do what you can to get some prophetic anointing on you” (John Eckhardt, 5/12/00 National School Of The Prophets, Mobilizing The Prophetic Office)

or

A multiplication anointing — “Saints, we have to preserve that anointing whether its the anointing that’s on Rod”… Rod Parsley agrees with Hinn about the anointing as he discusses the new healing center of Hinn’s. On his program he said, ” God where those anointings will be multiplied, I’m seeing this now Benny … Multiplied by one another, Smith Wigglesworth’s anointing multiplied by Oral Roberts anointing multiplied by Kathryn Kuhlman’s anointing multiplied by Benny Hinn’s anointing and when the people come there, there faith will be at such a level that that spiritual genealogy which you are preserving will come to bear against their need. … this is going to be a miracle mountain. “( This is Your Day program, Aug. 24, 1999 TBN )

Oh my word these people you know. lol I cannot believe the similarities here. Benny Hinn must have been at that meeting disguised??

Elmarie A

Louis Brittz got this anointing for the music. also BH.

Anointed Songs — Jesse Duplantis states,”the anointing to come through in that song.”
The Saving Anointing — Hinn states “When the anointing comes all your loved ones will be saved. All the demons that harass you will be gone.”

Jean

Thanks for the lekka “open minded” report back…

It is really sad to see the deception getting more “intense” and actually so much more “in-the-open”… more “discern-able” !!
Yet the people are still trying to BUY their salvation with these rituals, their time and “tithing” money.

Deborah, don’t hide… If people complain about this, then they are REALLY blinded by the enemy and most probably not saved at all…

I have shared this now with all my fellowships and I know that this is going to travel to more people… Ha ha, can’t wait for the Namibian crowd to start their tirade… more fun and games for me…

Amanda

Elmarie

Nice doggy. Niiiice doggy.

Amanda

Angus, near the end of his performance shouts out at the top of his voice, ‘The time is NOW, for the MANIFESTATIONS OF THE SONS OF GOD!!!”

Such … boldness! Is he the first to declare it in such a manner? Is this another first for South Africa?

Amanda

Christian Sharia law? Now that is a thought.

Elmarie A

Amanda

It is one of my five GSD’S.Thank you. I will tell Olak he is nice niiiice doggy lol lol, Oh hy is die witbroodjie…lol

Elmarie A

Jean

>>Deborah, don’t hide… If people complain about this, then they are REALLY blinded by the enemy and most probably not saved at all…<<

Yes I agree with you.

cecilia

Elmarie, Amanda took my line! – niiiicceee doggy! It amazes me that avatars really are fitting for the people who choose them – amazing!

Deborah, you deserve a rest – rest awaaayyy! but NOT 2 hide – so no hide-away for you! I think everyone just waved away the fact that your e-box is full – most of us understand “in due time”…

thank you (no Jean, this is no ecco!) thank you for the very open minded report back on what happened on that day! These meetings are all so “predictable”, it’s laughable sometimes. can’t wait to see the photos. A BIG THANKS again!

Elmarie A

Thank You lol isn’t it called a gravatar lol

Bless You

Amanda

Cecilia

Amanda took my line!

As long as everybody here stick to grains and water. That’s all I am saying.

Amanda

Deborah

I still have not checked my email.

Your once-in-a-lifetime-offer has now expired.

Olak ate’ted it.

I saw him.

Jen

Bombshelter … I know the feeling… Thx4article:-)

Grant C

Would someone please clarify it for me please, is our Olak an avatar or a gravatar. It needs to placed next to his Beeno biscuit. He is salivating…

Deborah – awesome reporting. We knew this was going to be the scenario beforehand, didn’t we? We cautiously anticipated a different outcome, rather than a wayback-playback of Eugene Terreblanche on his (now) white horse and another Bob Marley sighting… jah foor dat clowd, maan!

Let me not pursue this train of thought any further, other than to re-iterate congrats for a refreshingly perceptive and accurate piece on the ub4turn2ptownMK1.

Prayers and blessings

cecilia

thanks Elmarie! oops, sorry, my mistake! it shows what I’m busy researching….

cecilia

deborah : question: so who is teaching him the tricks? lol

Amanda

Elmarie

What you gonna do about it??

I know! Give him this:

INDIVIDUAL COMMITMENT FORM

01. To be entirely truthful in all I say.
02. To be faithful to my family relationships.
03. To do nothing out of selfish ambition or conceit, but to look out for the interests of others.
04. To refuse to elicit, accept or pay any bribes, and to report those who do.
05. To be a diligent leader without being harsh, and to pay my staff what is just and fair.
06. To be a peacemaker.
07. To do my work wholeheartedly.
08. To submit myself to just and ethical governing authorities.
09. To remember the poor by investing generously and sacrificially in the broader community.
10. To collaborate with my peers to impact our community and nation.

By signing this form I agree that my information may be added to the Unashamedly Ethical database for the use of future communication. I also agree that if I do not abide within the Ombudsman’s Code of Conduct (available at http://www.unashamedlyethical.com) I will be held accountable for such conduct by the Ombudsman.

Deborah

I just don’t see where doing cool tricks for peanuts comes into the picture.

You attend Turn2God so that we don’t have to. AND we’ll pay up a few extra once you publish the photo’s.

cecilia

Oh man! have we got it laid out for us! there’s another one coming up in very near future:

DEEPER WORSHIP CONFERENCE
in conjunction with GLOBAL DAY OF PRAYER
with special guests – Michael W. Smith & Michael Coleman
Cape Town Convention Centre 19th – 21st May 2010

Just wondering if that “third wave” did not hit SA? and
How deep is deeper? CAN one go ‘deeper’ if you’re already deeper (than the other laymen / sing-alongs)?
see info at http://www.integrityafrica.com

Elmarie A

Amanda
>>Olak ate’ted it.<<

Olak says nooo wasn't meeeeee olak that ate’ted it noono.lol lol it was the avatar. lol now im folding me paws over me eyes to peep yes it was the avatar or gravatar some sort of tarrrrr.

that was so funny….lol

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