Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auric Currency

Chuck Missler

Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auric Currency

I am writing this article because I do not think that Chuck Missler is being at all honest with us as to what he really believes and who he ‘works’ for.  For some unknown reason Chuck Missler is ‘protected’ in that he seems to be able to get away with all sorts of false prophecy and publishing books on ‘extra biblical’ occult subjects with no one battering an eyelid.

His resume (freely available on the internet) is profound in that Chuck’s interests, companies and world plans all seem to tie in with what he himself tries to expose as evil in his books.

Chuck Missler is not an expert on prophecy, he is helping to orchestrate Biblical prophecy by aiding and abetting the One World Order.

I will let you review the below information and you can ask yourself the question;    “Why is a supposed born again Christian ‘serving the people‘ by connecting the world via 3 satellites and helping to establish the African Union which is part of the New World Order?” I know I am going to get some serious slack for this article, but someone has to say something.  And seeing as though I have nothing to lose, let me be that person.  In my research I have noted some highly recommended pastors support Chuck Missler, some even have their their books being published on Koinonia House Europe.

There are many things that I myself have fallen prey too and sometimes it’s been difficult for me to want to believe I was fooled.  I am no one special, but I do my utter best to listen to the Holy Spirit’s warnings and I ask Jesus for forgiveness of these things and rectify my errors so that I do not lead people astray. I sincerely pray that these pastors that I myself love very much,  take heed of what I have written here and re-evaluate their position regarding what the Bible says about false teachers and how it’s even possible for the elect to be deceived.

It sometimes takes a donkey to come along and show us something that was so glaringly obvious.

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Dr. Charles ‘Chuck’ Missler:    (Information below in no particular order)

Chuck and Nancy Missler established Koinonia House in 1973

Chuck Missler also has close ties with Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel (where he preached) which was founded by The Jesus People

Close friend to Hal Lindsey (broadcasts shows on width= Trinity Broadcasting Network).   Hal Lindsey who had a show on TBN for years had his show removed by TBN in December 2005 because of his criticism against Islam.  As of Feb 2007 he was back on TBN hosting his show, “The Hal Lindsey Report”.  http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17439/hal-lindsey

Pat Matrisciana is a director of Chuck Missler’s Koinonia House.  Matrisciana also founded Campus Crusade for Christ with Bill Bright

 width=Dr.William Welty was appointed to the board of Directors of Koinonia House on 24 October 2009, which creates, develops, and distributes materials to stimulate, encourage, and facilitate serious study of the Bible as the inerrant Word of God. Koinonia House is located in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho and was founded by Dr. Charles Missler.

Chuck Missler supporter of the Bible Code which is Gematria/Numerology – width= literal Qabalah.  Book:  Hidden Treasures – Chuck Missler highlights many of the trademark discoveries of hidden messages within the Biblical texts that will challenge and excite you! A ‘must read’ for every thinking seeker of truth and serious inquirer of reality.

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On TBN’s 12/29/99 ‘Praise the Lord’ program which Hal Lindsey and Cliff Ford, hosted. One of their guests was Chuck Missler. Missler said he was there for the purpose of endorsing TBN’s movie, The Omega Code, and promoting his own new book on the Code.  The Omega Code movie did NOT promote the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but rather gave credence to the latest big lie — that there are hidden messages in the Bible when one uses the letters as an acrostic puzzle. This is the latest blasphemy sweeping through the professing church — using the Bible as a tool for divination.” Biblical Discernment Ministries
Occult fascination with UFO’s. Alien Encounters:  This book confronts the issues surrounding the sightings of UFOs and alien abductions and offers answers to many of the most pertinent questions. http://www.alienencounters.com

 

Dr. Charles W. “Chuck” Missler’s Curriculum Vitae:

Member of a globalist group since 1998, the Council For National Policy (CNP).

Established the first international industrial computer network in 1966 while working at Ford Motor Company.

Founded a computer networking organisation later acquired by Automatic Data Processing (NYSE) to became its Network Services Division. Consultant to the Board of Directors of Rockwell International for corporate acquisitions. Pioneer in computer technologies, participation in the development of some of the most top-secret military systems, including the Stealth bomber, anti-submarine warfare, worked with William E. Simon, former Secretary of Treasury on a strategically sensitive ultraviolet laser project, partnered with Boeing on P-3 upgrade, CEO for Advanced developments for Department of Defense and other deeply classified customers, Global Positioning Satellite systems, Director of Applied Devices Corporation for data processing support services for international oil industry, state lotteries, etc.

Owner of  The Phoenix Group, Inc., – 1989

Personally funded the first microchip implementation of the Data Encryption Standard (DES)

Gave false prophecy of Y2K where 2 videos were released by Chuck Missler and John Ankerberg with advertisting title:  “The Coming Y2K Computer Crisis Will threaten Anyone Whose Faith is Not in God!”.   This ‘false prophecy’ is very peculiar considering his unbelievable resume regarding anything computer orientated.  Why would someone who is a genius in the computing field say such a stupid thing.

Partnership with company that will soon launch 3 Satellites that will connect the entire world in the year 2014. 

Helping establish the African Union currency called the Auricâ Currency.

Participated in over 100 business ventures as a principal, strategic adviser, or turnaround specialist. Ford Motor Company, TRW, Western Digital Corporation, as well as U.S. and foreign governments.

Missler was Senior participant in highly classified projects serving the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.


Not so long ago Chuck Missler was at the:

God’s News Behind the News International Prophecy Conference 2000 – Orlando Florida, 5-8 April 2000

The prophets were:

  1. Jack and Rexella Van Impe,
  2. Morris Cerullo,
  3. Hal Lindsey,
  4. Grant Jeffrey,
  5. Perry Stone,
  6. John Bevere,
  7. Ray Brubaker,
  8. Joe Van Koevering,
  9. Zola Levitt,
  10. Chuck Missler,
  11. J.R.Church,
  12. Gary Kah, 
  13. Bill Cloud.

The Quantum Leap II Conference – July 19-21 2007

  • Hosted by:  The Gateway Christian Fellowship with speakers from The Elijah List, etc:
    • David van Koevering (The Elijah List,  New Age Occultist) – As a visionary, his gift is the insight to see, and by this observation to cause, and then define and communicate what he saw to others.
    • Chuck Missler (Chuck was encouraged by his close friend Hal Lindsey to pursue his long-time love of teaching the Bible on a full-time basis.  Hal Lindsey regular on TBN.)
    • JoAnne McFatter (The Elijah List- New Age Occultist),
    • Steve Swanson – Worship and Arts Director of Extreme Prophetic run by Patricia King (both The Elijah List- New Age Occultists).
  • Previous speakers at Quantum Leap I Conference included:  Kansas City Prophet Bob Jones along with Mike and Kari Browning.

‘Quantum Leap’ is a popular new age idea of man’s spiritual evolution from human to divine.  

“Barbara Marx Hubbard” wrote apologist Brooks Alexander, “has a similar event that she calls a planetary Pentecost. She explains to us that at this time, a ‘quantum leap’ in the evolution of mankind will occur as revealed to her by ‘the Christ’: ‘At the moment of cosmic contact, I will appear to you both through inner experience and through external communication on your mass media.’ Hubbard says, at this time when ‘the divisions of the religions would be over…We would each know that God is within us…If all who feel we are connected to each other, to nature and to God join in a planetary Pentecost, we shall be transformed in this lifetime.’ (Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Armageddon Alternative,” SCP Journal, Vol. 19:2/3, 1995, p. 49).”

Jackie Alnor from Apostasy Alert tried to contact Chuck Missler on why he attend this conference but did not receive a reply from him.  http://www.apostasyalert.org/REFLECTIONS/quantum.htm 

Chuck Missler of Koinonia House sponsored:  The Malta Expedition – 2004, ‘Exclusive Archaeological Cruise Event’ .

Tourists sailed to the islands of Patmos, Malta and Crete with excursions to Ephesus and Athens, where they visited the Acropolis, Parthenon and Mars Hill. Two days were spent on the island of Malta, where the tour visited the Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Malta!

At Valetta the tour will also visit an ancient Tarxien temple. ‘Tarxien’ means ‘huge stone’ which describes those used for the numerous prehistoric temples on Malta. The World Monuments Fund is trying to help protect these temples. In Lady of the Beasts: The Goddess and Her Sacred Animals, Buffie Johnson informs that Malta was renown for its temples and monuments to the Mother Goddess

Rockwell International:

 A multifaceted company that worked in the manufacturing arena for defense and space industries. Rockwell International are Freemason/Illuminati.

 width=The building that was originally built for Rockwell International was designed in the shape of a Ziggurat; a stepped pyramid in the style of ancient Babylonia. However they did not occupy the building and it became the regional branch office of the federal government, housing some National Archives material and other miscellaneous government documents.

Ziggurat
An ancient Mesopotamian temple tower consisting of a lofty pyramidal structure built in successive stages with outside staircases and a shrine at the top.  [1]  Form of temple common to the Sumerians, Babylonians and Assyrians. [2]

 width=SWANsat:  The Super-Wide Area Network Satellite  

“People Serving People”

 SWANsat’s satellite services will begin in 2014.  
The SWANsat Project will place a constellation of three high-powered satellites into operation: One spacecraft will serve Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and western Asia. One spacecraft will serve North, Central, and South America. One spacecraft will serve central and east Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and the central Pacific. When operated together, all three spacecraft will provide coverage of the entire globe, except for polar areas.”  www.swansat.com

Dr. Charles W. “Chuck” Missler is a special advisor to the SWANsatâ„¢ project.  www.swansat.com/about_us_cmissler.htm

Introducing the World’s First Inflation-Proof Gold and Silver Standard Offered as Part of SWANsat’s Modern Marshall Plan for the African Union 

Learn how SWANsat can help stabilize the world’s economy through the proposed gold-backed Auricâ currency. — http://www.swansat.com/index.htm

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Dr. Welty is a founding member of the Global Settlement Foundation (GSF), a Geneva-based, independent, international non-profit organization that provides finality of settlement for global trade. The GSF System includes the GSF, duly appointed prime dealers, foundation members, lawful processes, and deliverable units. These trade in a cryptographically neutral marketplace. In the Global Standardâ„¢, one Globalâ„¢ is defined as 0.1 gram of gold by mass deliverable as 0.999 or better fine gold, and includes retail delivery of 0.9999 pure gold 1 Kg bars marked 10,000 Globals, high value coins designed for circulation and low value coins and notes. All circulating physical Globals contain at least 70% of the face value amount of gold with the balance stored in the GSF vaults.  Counterfeits are impossible without the gold content. GSF enables the physical and lawful processes that facilitate creation and movement of goods and services, including the necessary infrastructure to allow entrepreneurs and investors who use Globals to create and use a real-capital stock market that allows the pricing function in the marketplace to price risk. The genius of the west – lawful real-money stock markets – has now again returned to the service of mankind. –http://www.williamwelty.com/about_us.htm

In early June 2005 we began a feasibility study regarding formation of mySWANbank, a proposed banking service for SWANsatâ„¢ users. Our mySWANbank service will be operated in conjunction with SWANsat’s affiliated Banque de Commerce Internationale. —  http://swansatfoundation.com/milestones.htm

Chuck Missler is nothing but a Luciferian cleverly disguised as a Dominionist.

Other  Resources: 
[1]  www.merriam-webster.com 
[2] www.encyclopedia.com/html/z1/ziggurat.asp 

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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

256 Responses

  1. Burning Lamp says:

    Rollin, you are a Rapture date-setter. That alone disqualifies you as one who has a firm grasp on the Bible. From the tone of your site it is easy to see why Missler would appeal to you.

    I don’t mean to be unkind, but I say this so that others will not take your comments seriously.

  2. Jeff Ruzicka says:

    You need to learn the difference between an intelligence briefing and a false prophet. If I tell you Y2K is real and it does not happen that makes me wrong, not a false prophet. If I tell you God told me so and it does not happen that makes me a false prophet. Also, maybe Y2K didn’t happen because the U.S. government spent 60 billion dollars to fix it. At any rate, who cares?

    As far as Chuck Missler’s salvation, his belief in how you are saved, 1 Corr 15 1-4 is right on target. His briefings on UFO’s deal with end time deception which, if he is right, are valuable.

    On the gold coin,a gold coin is evidence of a gold coin. Before you attack a brother, you need to know what you are talking about.

    He was on a lot of corporate boards. Really? One of the Hunt sisters, if she still is alive, is a real Christian who funds missionaries. Do you think poor people have the money to fund most of this. You need to grow up. Thank you for letting me post this. Let me add, I write this in Christ’s Love I am not trying to be harsh, but teach discernment. A different opinion is not always heresy.

  3. Jeff

    My goodness, it amazes me that people can’t see the terrible impact of having 3 satellites connect the world for NEW WORLD ORDER PURPOSES. Blind, all blind.

  4. Burning Lamp says:

    Oh my Jeff. Either one is a teacher of the Bible or one is not. Missler lost me when he joined up with false prophets some years back. I saw this with my own eyes. He has absolutly NO discernment. Dave Hunt tried to inject some solid biblical truth into the Y2k. Missler was one who injected hysteria. And he never ever admitted he was wrong to my knowledge.

    As for the Gospel he preaches, that is not his primary goal. And Benny Hinn can preach a Gospel message no one could find fault with, but it is only a lead-in to the other false garbage he is presenting. I would call it prostitution of the Gospel. Missler sells his “school of higher learning”, wears some weird medallion and I find all of this, well, downright disgusting.

    But many still follow him, and that is the nature of the beast – people latch onto a man and they find it hard to let go – ala – apostasy.

  5. Robbie says:

    Debs, I found out what Ignorance means… “dumb on purpose”

  6. Burning Lamp says:

    Robbie, “willful blindness” sounds more charitable……………………it really has nothing to do with intelligence. Many very otherwise smart people are taken in by all sorts of deception. Missler is one who appeals to the intellectual with all his scientific approach and jargon.

    I am thankful I am not one of those – I have heard him speak and after about 5 minutes my eyes start to glaze over. I consider that a blessing!! 🙂

  7. Michael says:

    Hi there, interesting but at times fruitless discussion unfortunately because if anyone teaches as much stuff as Chuck Missler, then being human he is bound to make a lot of errors. I have personally listened to his Bible teaching and also his other material and there is a big difference between these 2 for a start. Anyone who addresses UFO’s or the Bible code and offers there opinions, will get tarnished somewhat. Expositional bible teaching is a lot safer. And having a gift of discernment doesn’t mean we are right about everything, or should become intolerant and impatient with those who are wrong. We all see in part. So, for me personally, i don’t know anything about African currencies or Chucks part in it (although I will investigate) but that doesn’t negate his solid Bible teaching (not that i agree with 100% as I don’t understand 100% to begin with). If we are going to persuade others though, I suggest we act in love and patience. For example regarding the tribulation, when i first became a Christian I had no idea what that what, let alone what pre-trib or post-trib or preterism was. Just because i do know doesn’t mean I’m all that more mature, just that I’ve got a bit more information. So, whilst doctrine is important and avoiding false teaching is, i know how much my views have changed over time as I learn more of God’s word. I pray that God will give you as much patience as discernment. That goes for me too. God bless you for your endeavours to serve him. But please don’t cut down others who may be attempting to do the same but not yet at the same point of discernment. Misguided sheep are not wolves in sheeps clothing. Those who promote false teachings are not the same as those who fall for them. I believed in word of faith for a short time until the Lord delivered me and gave me discernment. Finally, let our hope be in Christ, not Christianity. Let our love be toward God and not mammon. May we cry for the lost and ignorant not just tell them they are wrong. And may we not compromise on anything that is not from God…. Amen

  8. A. Nonymous says:

    Wow… talk about grasping at straws. This article is asinine.

  9. A

    No, not at all. You think I am grasping at straws because you don’t understand what is going on in the world – you are blinded to the truth.

  10. Michael says:

    There are two or three Michaels now…it can become confusing…we are all different. Debs what do you suggest…maybe a name change or Michael I,II or III…lol.

  11. Michale

    LOL, Fortunately your little picture helps to distinguish you from others, how about Michael T?

  12. Mark says:

    Hi since this is one of the top sites on google when you search Chuck Missler false and its taken me about 3 months to actually read through (just started a new job) i feel obliged to reply. Just so you know I’m not a new “christian” but have only recently started a relationship with Jesus/God and am still learning a lot including from this site and lots of places.

    Just a few points
    1) With regard to peoples reply to posts (especially Deborah) alot of the time the replies to a opposing opinion can be argumentative, hostile and even ungodly (Quoting Jesus saying “get behind me Satan” in reply to posts. I’m sure the point of this blog is to enlighten people, but if every time people make an opposing argument people take it asa personal attack its not enlightening its just entrenching people in their original view.

    2) I didn’t realise that peoples view on the tribulation effected their salvation?

    3) It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search out
    a matter. (Proverbs 25:2)
    A lot of what Chuck talks about is hidden patterns and messages in the bible not so much predictions (well from what i have watched of him) e.g. The name of Jesus in Leviticus etc. Also it seems you have not read what he has read about “codes” in the bible (neither have i) but when people come to you and say i have read it and its not like “the bible code” etc why not ask them about it or read it yourself?

    4) I Have never read and don’t think i ever will read the “Bible code”. Picked it up once thought that sounds interesting as i picked it up can only explain a feeling of dread came over me, whether that was just me or a spiritual matter, i can still find better things to spend my time reading.

    5) You claim that one of the reasons we should disregard the bible code is that quote
    “If it was biblical the Rabbi that found it via use of computers would have dropped to his knees and be born again. So would the atheist who wrote the first book on the Bible Code. Last I checked he is still an atheist.”
    Non-believers are blind to the truth, the same reason that when people look at the awesomeness of the plant we live on they put it down the billions of years of pot luck and not a creator which if you ever see the beauty of the world it makes you wonder how they can belive that.

    6)Just because 3 satalities would help the NWO doesn’t mean the people who put them their are all involved. its like saying the creators of the Internet, computers, electronics, the telephone etc are all involved.

    7) A lot of people have debunked what you have stated as reasons why Chuck Missler should be seen as a “false prophet” but still you will argue the point. “Ow read your bible more not watch them or why put your trust in a man, or people see him as an idol.” You seem to be turning this discussion in to an argument and that anyone that doesn’t take your side idolises Chuck therefore is against God, which is rubbish and would make any one that sticks to your side of the argument idol worshipers as well.

    8) Also before you judge people take into account Mathew 7:2

    9) In a christian discussion people need to be less proud and let their ears be open to what Gods saying and not what we want to hear.

    I am still going to be listening to Chuck Missler and at the moment am loving the insight God is giving me through chucks videos about the creation and until i hear something that is wrong or God guides me away i will still use his teaching.

    I would say to any one that has actually read through all these posts that if you are still undecided, watch some of his teachings (specially Genesis on YouTube) pray and decide for yourself

    I hope that this message is not deleted and that the discussion can continue since it is important.

  13. Matt says:

    Well said Mark. I have several of Chuck’s books, mp3’s, and dvd messages. I have disagreed with some of Chucks opinions (which he clearly states are his opinions), also, I have studied the scriptures along with Chucks messages, and have learned much, even eye-opening things regarding certain scriptures. I find that most people who label him as a false teacher never debate the man himself, or his students at Koininia House, which they are accessible. Most have their own agenda’s. To be fair, Deb has a right to her opinions right or wrong, just as we have a right to either agree or disagree with her. She can be accused of being a false teacher, or heretic as well, as anyone else.

  14. Burning Lamp says:

    Oh puleeeeeeeeeeeeze Matt! When Chuck cohabitated with false apostolic preachers in a live streaming broadcast some years ago that I saw with my own eyes, and he was questioned about this, there was just a big wall of silence. He was one of the leaders of the Y2k hysteria and to my knowledge never repented. Debs has documented everything as have many others who are seeking to serve the Lord by their warnings.

    If you can discount all the facts laid out against his teaching you are blind as the proverbial bat.

  15. lilie of the valley says:

    I’m unexperienced with blogs etc. and actually only followed a link on chuck missler. I neither want, nor can add much to the “discussion”, ’cause I don’t know him persononally ( even I’m not much aquainted with all the other teacher mentioned so far,.) But I want to say this;
    1. I do receive the k-house newsletter, which ends up with the request :” we solicit your prayer and support of this ministry ”
    2.as living in germany Idon’t have access to much teaching of chuck missler, but whenever I’ve listen to his teachings on “the word of god” , I have heard him say, ever so often (!) ” search you yourself the scripture ! Don’t believe,. just because I, chuck missler have said it !!!”
    3. Just recently on god TV, I think it was a teaching from the strategic trends 2011 conference, I heard him say, “that inspite of his oppinion he held until…, he must correct his view…”
    4.and again, I’ve heard him say many times in different teachings, ” what does this word mean? I don’t know ! “; or “I,don’t know, I’ve a personal view, because of this and that… but I don’t know…”

    I neither want to defend a person, I don’t know personally, nor judge her, I just say, what I’ve noticed…

    5. Only a few people above mentioned it, but it is so vital !

    Let’s pray for all those, who lead… !

    And 6. we need each other,
    ’cause all of us see only “in part” ( f.i. as Paul says in 1. Cor 13,12
    “Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely…” )
    AND bringing the pieces together in brotherly love, would be helpful, and, so necessary correcting each other in love…

    Can anybody of us say, that, he/she inherits the utterly and only true view/truth ?
    I for myself can only answer as paul says it in his letter to the Philippians 3,12 ff. !

    Yes, we have to examine, 1. Thess 5,21, “test everything, hold on to the good”… and as Jesus promised to us, with the holy spirits help, we will know the truth ! ( JN 16,13)

    May some of his views be yet incomplete, therefore “unbalanced”, “extreme” to one or the other site, even wrong (?)
    ( to me it seems,that he has insights,I and many of us don’t have a clue of)
    I got the impression, he really pursuits the lord, tries to understand as deep as possible, and to warn and challenge christians, as many of them are mislead to a luke-warm-ness…

    May god himself,the god of peace, sanctify us, through and through, so that our whole spirit,soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our lord jesus christ… 1 Thess. 5,23..

  16. M W says:

    I Went on that Malta expedition back in 2004. In all fairness to Missler, he didn’t plan those visit’s to those sites your referring. I went in one of those buildings you mentioned and it grieved me greatly. I did find it interesting what Malta has done with a the traditional site of Paul’s ship wreck. It is a evil worship site of other gods for sure. A good contrast to where ever the true ship wreck site actually was/is located. Same thing seen in Jerusalem’s traditional verses the real sites.
    I personally did not witness Missler visit any of those sites you documented. I’m not saying he didn’t… just saying I didn’t see him if he did go. I think you need to check the organization/travel people who booked the trip. So that trip should not reflect wether or not he is a false teacher.

    I am concerned about his newest book the Kingdom power and the glory. Also concerned with the lack of discernment of who he had come on board his ministry back in late 2005. It does make me wonder….
    I do know of others that have run into the same information as you have and even more info than you posted. It is disturbing to say the least. We have to discern …. pray always… the days are evil indeed. There are a lot of false teachers out there…

    .

  17. Fan Matieo says:

    [delete – if you can’t figure out if this site is Christian or not then don’t expect me to prove your comments as you insult my intelligence]

  18. Fan Matieo says:

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  19. James Johnstone says:

    Yeah African currency = remember ag uy named Gaddafi? HAHAHAHAHAHH

  20. Ann says:

    Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

    My husband and I went to visit friends yesterday and we spoke non stop for a record number of hours lol, and many many topics arose and one of them was about CONFUSION. Everyone is becoming so confused and the confusion that is being created by Satan is getting worse and worse by the day.

    Deborah–you are right when you mention “confusion”–its everywhere. This is why in this day of increasing “strong delusion” it is important to study the scriptures. I teach Precept on Precept Bible Studies ( Kay Arthur) and know that it is only God’s Word and the cry for discernment in this dark age that will see us through. I wonder if you will email me privately as I may have some comments for you that I dont want printed here.
    Ann

  21. Ann says:

    M W wrote:

    Also concerned with the lack of discernment of who he had come on board his ministry back in late 2005. It does make me wonder….
    I do know of others that have run into the same information as you have and even more info than you posted. It is disturbing to say the least. We have to discern …. pray always… the days are evil indeed. There are a lot of false teachers out there…
    .

    MW–just wondered if you will could elaborate on who you are mentioning came on board in 2005 and what your concerns were.I wonder if Deborah could privately give you my private email. As I may know you as I have been involved since 2006.
    ANN

  22. Leona says:

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  23. Daniel says:

    Hi Deborah, I am writing this directly to you so you can keep it to yourself or post it as you wish. I can tell that you and every person I read about on your blog really loves the Lord and tries to only present the truth. I hope you do not think I was attacking you or anyone else on your sight.

    In spite of my comments, I am always skeptical about currencies and who is involved with them though so I will continue to do a little more research on this, and I will let you know if I find any hard facts that point to guilt or vindication in this matter. What I was saying is true about the currencies though. The people who run the Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank run the world’s economy and are behind the New World Order. A currency based in a commodity like gold is completely counter to their objectives. I have done a lot of research and have a friend who worked for the head of finance at Bank of America, and the people who run the world economy want to stay away from a stable currency like gold. Remember, after they form a one world currency they want to move to a fully electronic currency and eventually place chips in us that carry our financial info. Behind every plan of Satan’s God has a much better and more sophisticated plan. Remember that God’s plan catches
    Satan off guard all the time, but Satan never catches God off guard. The people behind the New World Order and the money changers thought that they were going to achieve a one world government with WWI, then again w/ WWII. I do believe we are very close the rapture and the tribulation, but God has some big plans for his church in the mean time.

    I would love to hear your opinions or other info on these thoughts. Especially if you have information that will correct me if I am wrong.

    God Bless,
    Daniel

  24. Daniel says:

    CM does properly debunk many of the scientific myths that aim to refute evolution. The science and theology he uses is very sound in every lecture I have heard him in. That is the only truly hard evidence I have. I will continue to keep my eye and ears open.

    The greatest obstacle to the truth is not lack of knowledge, but dogmatically believing that all the current knowledge one posses is correct. The only hard facts in this world are from God’s word.

  25. jason says:

    Just a couple of comments –

    1. How many people has Chuck led to Christ? While I believe many comments above are born from various forms of jealousy, Chuck’s heart & the fruit is the thing to be examined only. I find it annoying reading comments from arm chair quarterbacks whom love to pick the pepper from fly poop & make mountains from dirt clods. Stand up & do something other than look to tear down a man & try to invalidate his message – how dare you.

    2. Chuck is a man, an imperfect man & he’ll be the first to tell you the same. What is the mantra that he lives by? Acts 17:11 which, he always says & I quote “don’t believe a word Chuck Missler says, check the scriptures to see if it is so”. I have heard him say that MANY times.

    3. Please, anyone – tell me who is the perfect Bible teacher, I am dying to know. In fact, I am looking for the perfect church & will travel anywhere in the world to visit such a place. Well?

    All of those whom posted negative comments in this thread are sad little, prideful & myopic hypocrites in my opinion. Listening to speakers like Chuck is a pretty straightforward process – grab the good, sound doctrinal things & discard the rest you believe is incorrect BUT prove it is incorrect through study of the Word.

    Bottom line – shut up, get a life worth living & BE the witness. The job is to expand the kingdom of God not invalidate someone who has led 100 times more people to Christ than all of the comments in this thread combined.

    Sheesh, how annoying …..

  26. Jason

    >> Bottom line – shut up, get a life worth living & BE the witness

    I can see that Chuck must have led you to ‘Christ’

  27. Martin Horan says:

    Jason, because someone has discernment and points out false teachings does not mean they are envious. As far as I can see from people who have criticized Chuck Missler, the criticism has been objective. It has been objective because it is logical and, more importantly, biblical.
    Chuck Missler is an imperfect man. Really? Well, I’m glad you see that. But because he regularly says “Don’t believe me, believe the Bible” proves nothing.
    I was a member of the Worldwide Church of God cult and “God’s only true living apostle” used to hammer that same line continually. He made people think that they were going to the Bible and finding our for themselves that his claims were true but, in fact, they were not. They were going to the Bible to read selected parts that were then reinterpreted to fit Herbert W. Armstrong’s paradigm. Cult leaders play that trick a lot of the time. You think Missler’s never heard of that trick?
    Deborah’s not saying that there is a perfect Bible teacher. But she is saying that there are sound ones. Apparently you haven’t noticed the difference. And the fact that you revert to personal insult to defend a man who you yourself say is not perfect, is hardly logical. For one thing, it is downright rude and hardly shows a Christian spirit.
    It shows that you do not like criticism of what strikes me as your idol, Missler. There are only two kinds of criticism: objective and subjective. Objective criticism is fair because it it true; subjective criticism is unfair because it is false.
    Deborah, and plenty of others, have already pointed out where Missler fails miserably when it comes to being Scriptural, so I have no intention of going over old ground here.
    However, as “a spirit has not flesh and bones” [Luke 24:39] and fallen angels were in heaven, which flesh and blood cannot enter, and “that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of spirit is spirit” [John 3:6] and angels do not have genitals–or why would Jesus Himself make the statements in Matt 22:30 & Mark 12:25? (Anyway, why would God give them genitals if they do not procreate?) And remember, those other quotes above are also straight from the mouth of Jesus Christ! That being the case, how can Nephillim be the progengy of men and fallen angels?
    I do not deny that there were giants on the earth. It is true that there are plenty of skeletons of them that have been found. But that doesn’t mean they were the progeny of demons and women as is being bandied about. Nor does it mean they were the offspring of aliens of faroff planets either. We know from Scripture–and the Laws of Thermodynamics actually–that evolution not only did not happen but could not have happened. People who believe in aliens are evolutionists.
    Anyway we know that both beliefs (women having produced offspring from demons or aliens) goes back to pagan thinking and was strongly pushed through occultists like Madame Blavatsky, Albert Pike, Many P. Hall and Aleister Crowley. These people, whose writing can be found on-line were open and blatant Luciferians. It wasn’t only something they did NOT try to hide, it was something they openly advocated. And, interestingly, they were all evolutionists.
    If Chuck Missler is not even aware of those things which are common knowledge to Luciferians and high-ranking Masons (those well above the first three degrees), then is he really fit to be writing books about things of which he is ignorant?
    Deborah, at least, writes of things of which she knows. And she does so objectively. Anyone who believes that humans and spirits–or aliens from outer space–can have sexual intercourse, and even conceive, strikes me as being very subjective and hardly deserving of any respect.
    Respect, for one thing, has to be earned. It is not a given. That’s why I do not respect people like Chuck Missler. And I do not have to. So long as I love my enemies, I do not respect those–enemies or friends–who show they do not deserve respect.
    And to you, Deborah, carry on with the good work. You are doing a good job. As with all real Christians, do not expect to be thanked. You know that because you know that the world loves it own. God bless you.

  28. jason (discerning the Word instead) says:

    Just love the cut and paste comments & thank you for illustrating my point. Obviously you do not understand context & chose to disregard the rest.

  29. jason says:

    Regarding my first post, I’ll keep it simple & scriptural: Matthew 7: 1-5

    Discerning the Word,

    Jason

    Whether you post this or not, YOU will get the message.

  30. Jason says:

    Wow, you are pretty unbalanced & prideful. Just as well ~

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