You’ve got 4 types of Christians…

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The 4 Types of Christians: 

Please VOTE below as to which one you are…

Confusing isn’t it?   Well I don’t blame anyone for being confused. Because this is what it’s come down too:

1) We have the Word of Faith / Latter Rain / Manifest Sons of God / New Apostolic Reformation Christians – Signs and Wonders, Slain in the Spirit, Calling down Fire, Apostolic and Prophetic, Anointed, Joel’s Army, Kingdom Builder/Carrier ‘Christians’ – This category can include Catholics.

2)  Mormons, Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Calvinists and others who want to be called Christians

3) Then we have the New Age ‘Christian’ or the Contemplative ‘Christian’ (Emergent movement) where pretty much everything goes, anything that sounds good is ok.  You can be any type of  ‘Christian’ you want to be: a Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Catholic, even a Christian Buddhist, or a Muslim Christian as long as it’s not the dreaded No. 4

4) Bible believing Christians who adhere to the Word of God in it’s entirety (authority and sufficiency) and preach salvation by repentance of sin through Jesus Christ the Son of God.  Also called  fundamentalists by No. 1 and 3

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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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novstan
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novstan

Hello. I was reading your article about the word of faith ministry or ministries. if you could post a comment on what a group of believers or a church should be like it will be very helpful. Some of those things that u list as part of wof or “occultism” are everywhere and every church that I have visited even things of that nature happen inthe church that I am in how. Then, if every church is part of that movement, then we are all going to hell. Even some of the things u claim that are occult I believe in, because they do have scriptural foundation so I really dont understand, the point of calling everything we dont undestand, the occult.

Robbie
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Robbie

NEWZIMBABWE.COM

By Staff Reporter
Last updated: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:59:47 GMT
A ZIMBABWEAN man has stood trial in Britain, accused of leading a gang of bible-waving conmen who swindled fellow Seventh Day Adventist church goers of a staggering £3,2 million.
Lindani Mangena, 24, is accused of recruiting three more men — Dean Hinkson, 29, Curtis Powell, 31, and Jordan Huie, 25 – in the scam in which church members were persuaded to invest in bogus schemes, some of which promised returns of as much as 25 times the original investments.

Shame, I’m sure he was only robbing the rich to pay the poor?

Robbie
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Robbie

Novstan..

You think Satan is gonna come too wearing his true colors?
In the last days he will take his place in the temple pretending to be God… from the pulpit.

Read the bible Novstan… specially what to expect in the last days… exciting stuff!

You have a small group of true Christians (those discerners on the narrow road), A larger group of professing “Christians” (in most churches) and the non denominational global religions.

The angel explained to Ezekiel that the deceit is much worse than what he could imagine… I am sure those warnings count for us too.

Wanna know of a good one?… that relationship between you and God… via Jesus

Robbie
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Robbie

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he he he… I just reacted swiftly upon your request ma’am

cecilia
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cecilia

Deborah, as to your answer to Jesus Heals, you said: “No 3 is for born again Christians who adhered to the word of God, we are NOT legalists, we are NOT fudamentalist – BUT are called these names by others. No 3 is a genuine Christian.”

YET, I think he HAS confused you? shouldn’t it be No 4 is for born again Christians …..

Just saying… c

martine
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martine

I am stunned that “christians” carry on this way!!LOL!! PS: We all get to heaven, but not all stay there. It’s about time we find Christ in ALL things. Stop fighting, “who’s right. who’s wrong, who got the cash who doesn’t.” THAT is for GOD alone,your jibes on blog are not helping the love of Christ. Christ took all of that to the cross, WHEN last where we really there – at the foot of the cross. I am sorry to say but I do not agree with blogs like this, imagine what the “fundamentalist” religions are saying! Whew, satan comes in many disguises and reaches into every heart, he just needs a gap/(or a blog!). Wish we could have a Christ Love based blog, but that will only come when we truly let Christ into our heart. I see no love, no heart, just a lot of rebuke!

Amanda
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Amanda

Martine

You want to use the Law to protect those who trash the Gospel? Seriously?

You said:

imagine what the “fundamentalist” religions are saying!

Why, Martine, they are are saying exactly what you are saying: Law. Law. Law.

Robbie
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Robbie

Martine
*I am stunned that “christians” carry on this way!!LOL!!”

Discerner s here don’t pretend to be “Christians” (as you indicated – inverted comma’s) neither are they trying to prove “Christians” wrong… but only that the bible is correct.

Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Search for yourself…. keep on reading

Burning Lamp
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Burning Lamp

Martine, what part of contending earnestly for the faith don’t you understand?

Stuart
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Stuart

I had read with interest up to this page, but this does not seem to be Christ-like inquiry after The Truth. Shame because I had enjoyed some of the comments before this and wanted to join in on the Nephilim and specifically ask you your thoughts on the Council of Laodicia that removed the Book of Enoch (part of the Dead Sea Scrolls) and many others while simultaneously attacking the commanded Sabbath — i.e. to what degree, therefore, can one trust the completeness of the bible they left us with traditionally?

I find much in the bible difficult to understand, which is why I love the simplicity of Rev. 12:17 describing in a nutshell what makes someone a Christian, for want of a better label given this “debate.” When all the intellectualism is said and done, simply “…obey God’s commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.” A bit of the Old, a bit of the New, inseparable as one would expect, cemented together through Time with love.

Stuart, a Seventh-day Adventist, intrigued by your comparison with the Mormons, I must say -)

Elmarie A
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Elmarie A

Stuart

Stuart, a Seventh-day Adventist, intrigued by your comparison with the Mormons, I must say -)

Please don not take exception just take heed. I am posting this article below as I do not know if you know of the dangers about Seventh-day Adventist. I pray you read this and Heed to the warnings.

“What is Seventh-day Adventism (SDA) and what do Seventh-day Adventists believe?”

Answer: There seem to be different “degrees” of Seventh-day Adventism. Some Seventh-day Adventists believe identically to orthodox Christians, other than believing that worship should be held on Saturday and that the Saturday Sabbath should still be observed. If these are the only differences, then yes, a person could be a Seventh-day Adventist and still be a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.

However, some Seventh-day Adventists believe in much more than a Saturday Sabbath / worship day. Seventh-day Adventists have been known to believe in: the annihilation of the wicked instead of an eternal hell, that believers who die enter a state of soul sleep, and that a person must observe the Saturday Sabbath in order to be saved. Other problems with some Seventh-day Adventists are: belief in Ellen G. White, the founder of Seventh-day Adventism, as a true prophet of God even though many of her “prophecies” failed to come true – and – that Jesus entered a second phase of His redemptive work on October 22, 1844, as “prophesied” by Hiram Edson.

So, What is Seventh-day Adventism and what do Seventh-day Adventists believe? Should a Christian attend a Seventh-day Adventist church? Due to the potential doctrinal issues mentioned above, I would strongly encourage believers to not get involved in Seventh-day Adventism. Yes, a person can be an advocate of Seventh-day Adventism and still be a believer. At the same time, there are enough potential issues to make attending a Seventh-day Adventist church questionable at best.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Seventh-Day-Adventism.html

Elmarie A
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Elmarie A

Stuart

“What does the Bible say about soul sleep?”

Answer: “Soul sleep” is a belief that after a person dies, his/her soul “sleeps” until the resurrection and final judgment. The concept of “soul sleep” is not biblical. When the Bible describes a person “sleeping” in relation to death (Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6), it does not mean literal sleep. Sleeping is just a way to describe death because a dead body appears to be asleep. The moment we die, we face the judgment of God (Hebrews 9:27). For believers, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). For unbelievers, death means everlasting punishment in hell (Luke 16:22-23).

Until the final resurrection, though, there is a temporary heaven—paradise (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4) and a temporary hell—Hades (Revelation 1:18; 20:13-14). As can be clearly seen in Luke 16:19-31, neither in paradise nor in Hades are people sleeping. It could be said, though, that a person’s body is “sleeping” while his soul is in paradise or Hades. At the resurrection, this body is “awakened” and transformed into the everlasting body a person will possess for eternity, whether in heaven or hell. Those who were in paradise will be sent to the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1). Those who were in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not a person trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation.

Present-day defenders of soul sleep include the Seventh Day Adventist church, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christadelphians, and others.
http://www.gotquestions.org/soul-sleep.html

Burning Lamp
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Burning Lamp

If I may chime in on the topic of 7th Day Adventism – often the Sabbath keeping is considered a requirement for salvation and those who worship on Sunday are considered to be apostates. This is my understanding of most Adventists. Also, there are the dietary requirements. They follow a false prophet, Ellen G. White. I do not believe that one can be a true believer and be a devotee of Adventism. The main reason being that it is a false Gospel, a gospel of works. They are under the Law, the Sabbath commandment and hold to dietary restrictions. Also, the eschatology is goofy although that is not the main issue.

There may be various degrees of Adventism, but my research and personal experience bears out the fact that the above are common beliefs held by Adventists.

The issue of soul sleep is also of consideration. There are too many factors to call this an orthodox Christian group, the most important being a false gospel.
Sorry if this offends, as there are many good and sincere folks in this religion, but they are under bondage.

Elmarie A
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Elmarie A

Burning Lamp

Thank you for chime smile

Felipe
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Felipe

Just a few days ago I found this blog, very impressive.
Deborah, is that the name of the owner of this blog?, I hope so, congratulations keep up the good work.

Got to keep up reading all the articles and comments.

Fellow No.4 Christian.

Sharon
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Sharon

I know this is a very old post but…smoking will not send someone to hell. It just makes you smell like you just came from there.

Here is what King James VI & I thought about smoking tobacco.

Concerning Smoking He Stated: A custom loathsome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless.

Jesus Heals wrote:

I dont have a problem with repentance of sin. Without one repenting one cannot be born again. So what you said doesnt make sense. And as for people thinking that one sin in a born again persons life can send you to hell. I’ve actually heard of preachers who thought that if you smoked cigarettes they would go to hell. Where in the Bible does it say that?

And no I dont throw all born again christians into a fundamentalist category. I just find fundamentalism to have alot of flaws just like word of faith. Do I think that fundamentalists are going to hell? No not at all, I just believe that some fundamentalists take things way too literally. And by that, I mean there is too much law being preached in the churches today. Paul strictly said that Christians DO NOT need the law. The sinner is the one in need of the Law to see how sinful they are. A christian knows how sinful they are and know they need Jesus Christ to make them perfect.

God Bless

Sharon
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Sharon

AWESOME!!! Yes, Jesus is still in the miracle business! Hallelujah!

About 20 or so years ago my dad had Pancreatic & Liver cancer. I was still married and living in North Carolina. I left there to go be with my momma. When I got there the doctor told me that dad had 4 dsys to live. Well he died 12 years later from double pneumonia. God is still in the house. He still does the impossible. But it is HE who does it! Not some wolf/tv “healer” It is God and God a lone.

When we first found out dad had cancer mom, my brother and I said that we would support what ever dad decided to do concerning chemo. Well he said, let’s do it. He never got sick, kept a fairly good appetite and did lose some hair but I still had to trim it for him. What he lost came back in curly!

It makes me sick to see Benny Hinn and other wolves claiming to heal people. Then the poor people that believe he can heal them never get to see him if they’re terminal. He will stand before God Almighty someday and may his millions of dollars perish in the flames.

Good for you girl!