I wrote about this prophecy 2 years ago and received a lot of slack. I seem to be a sucker for punishment cos I am putting it back online again. The only difference between this article and my last one is I found another prophecy by Cindy Jacobs for Zimbabwe and Africa which is very very interesting.
Cindy Jacobs is part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Apostle / Latter Rain Movement (Joel’s Army) run by C. Peter Wagner and Chuck Pierce, etc. These new modern day prophets insist that the church is to be governed by them based on the structure of the Ephesians 4:11 Fivefold ministry – with absolute authority. Such leaders include Earl Paulk, John Gimenez, David Cannistraci, Ken Sumrall, Gary Greenwald, Norvel Hayes, Bill Hamon, Terry Virgo, Lou Engle, Rick Joyner, George Otis Jr, (Bennie Mostert, Angus Buchan, Dirkie van der Spuy (Moreletapark GemeenteNG Kerk), Wendy and Rory Alex (God TV), Charisma Magazine, Joy Magazine (South, Africa) etc, etc, etc,.
Prophetic Word For Zimbabwe #1
A Prophecy Given by Cindy Jacobs (President of Generals of Intercession)
30/10/1998 – Guatemala City, Guatemala.
The river is going to flow through Zimbabwe and I see a powerful torrent or water, a mighty rushing torrent, many fish. I see that there are strongholds in the church of division and the accuser of the brethren is active to discourage souls. An army of women with the Deborah anointing will march across the land. They will be like a net all over Zimbabwe with prayer. With a powerful anointing, the women first and the men following. I see ancient thrones coming down, reconciliation between black and white, the spirit of racism which goes back further down the tribes. I will use Zimbabwe like a jewel; she will help feed the world with beautiful produce. God will break the curse that came through civil war- the curse will be broken. I know nothing of Zimbabwe. The land will produce beautiful beef. New factories will be built. Zimbabwe has the ministry of reconciliation that will reunite the African people. The anointing of reconciliation will be all over Zimbabwe.
Do not be afraid of the change,although it looks like you are going back wards.I have a plan for you. Satan thinks he is advancing but I will expose wickedness at high levels. Do not be afraid. Satan will try to bring war, but the people will be used to stop war and bloodshed. A treaty will be written with other nations. Zimbabwe will be like Switzerland to bring the healing of nations- to break ancient things. Your nation came through trickery but God will restore it.
You will be given a piece of land- a beautiful place to pray. You will build a place to watch and pray. It will be like a village with a place to sleep. Senior citizens will have places to stay and give their time to pray day and night….
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>> An army of women with the Deborah anointing will march across the land. [There is only ONE Anointing and that is Jesus Christ. The NAR have a name for everything. I am waiting for the Moses anointing where they will be able to part damns – that would be a Youtube sensation.]
>> I will use Zimbabwe like a jewel; she will help feed the world with beautiful produce. [Cindy is speaking past tense here, cos this is what Zimbabwe used to do]
>> I know nothing of Zimbabwe [Apparently you know nothing of God either]
>> Zimbabwe has the ministry of reconciliation that will reunite the African people. [Actually no that’s South Africa’s job, you are confused]
>> Do not be afraid of the change,although it looks[Be afraid, be very afraid because when things get worse and go back wards it means God is no where to be found in the hearts of most Zimbabweans – the same can be said for the rest of the world; as the world gets worse and goes backward] like you are going back wards.
>> A treaty will be written with other nations.
[Now this one I am interested in. Is Cindy prophesying some truth pertaining to African nations signing treaties with the Economic Partnership Agreement EPA with the European Union. Zimbabwe signed this treaty on the 2009/09/04 (this all in conjunction with the EU bringing African nations under it’s control)>> Your nation came through trickery but God will restore it. [Not sure which trickery she is speaking of here? Colonialism or Mugabe destroying his own people?]
>> You will be given a piece of land- a beautiful place to pray [Dominionism – Cindy is saying that Zimbabwe will be a little heaven on hearth and people will be safe and be able to express their beliefs day and night – which beliefs though is another question]
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Prophecy For The Nation Of Zimbabwe And Africa #2
Cindy Jacobs, Covenant Church of Pittsburgh
17/10/2001 – Pittsburgh
The Lord has a word for Zimbabwe. This is the word for the nation: Weeping only endures for a night but joy comes in the morning.
Satan is very afraid of Zimbabwe, very afraid, so he has sent his troops, but the Lord says, I myself have sent my angels and I am going to reveal myself to a people that has not recognized me. And the Lord says, I am going to raise up an army of Intercessors that have had to go deep, deep, deep like the palm tree in times of drought. And this army of Intercessors have clung and stood to the word of the Lord, so therefore I will use them to heal Africa says God.
And I am going to release a mighty prayer army that will go forth from this land. And the Lord says I am going to stay this spirit of violence and I am going to begin to reverse things in this land. The Lord says, don’t look at what you see now, but understand that I am going to make this a peace-making nation. And the Lord says, I the Prince of Peace am going to enthrone myself in miraculous ways there, says God. And this will be known as a country that is a peaceful country and restored.
The Lord gives me Joel. That God is going to restore the years that the cankerworm and the locust have eaten up. This will be a Joel nation and a Malachi nation and I am going to turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers.
There is a linking between Zimbabwe and South Africa, that will be miraculous for I am going to bring great healing between these nations says the Lord.
There are treasures of darkness that have waited till this hour in Africa to be released for the greatest harvest that continent has ever seen, and that the Africans will help protect and heal America, the Lord showed me that. And that which was despised, God is going to bring a humility into the heart of those in America to humble themselves to receive this word because it is in the healing of the nation that is going to come the receiving of the Africans.
The Lord is showing me that He is getting ready to build an east to the west road across Africa that will physically open up the heart of Africa. The Lord shows me that He is getting ready to reach the unreached and He is going to break open North Africa, break it open. I’m telling you God is going to break it open.
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>> Satan is very afraid of Zimbabwe, very afraid, so he has sent his troops, but the Lord says, I myself have sent my angels and I am going to reveal myself to a people that has not recognized me. And the Lord says, I am going to raise up an army of Intercessors that have had to go deep, deep, deep like the palm tree in times of drought. And this army of Intercessors have clung and stood to the word of the Lord, so therefore I will use them to heal Africa says God. [Right, well, if ever I read read a load of nonsense this is it (the first line that is lol). The last line where she says “so therefore I will use them to heal Africa says God” is an interesting one because this is true in terms of the false peace being spread across Africa driven by the EU]
>> but understand that I am going to make this a peace-making nation. [Nope, South Africa is the peace making nation (or superpower) in Africa. Zimbabwe is just another pawn, another example of how 2 parties can come together and shake hands because someone ‘higher up’ the EU told them too – or else no “Economic Partnership Agreement treaty?”]
>> And the Lord says, I the Prince of Peace am going to enthrone myself in miraculous ways there, says God.
[Mark 16:19-20 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.” Jesus current sits in His Thrown in heaven, so I would love to know who your ‘prince of peace’ is that is going to enthrone himself in Zimbabwe. Is this the same one the Bible calls the ‘Angel of Light?]>> The Lord gives me Joel. That God is going to restore the years that the cankerworm and the locust have eaten up. This will be a Joel nation and a Malachi nation and I am going to turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers.
[Oh please, If Zimbabwe is a Joel nation then they are in serious trouble. In Joel 2:20 it refers to the defeat of the Northern Army, God himself removes it. “His stench will come up and his foul odour will rise because he has done monstrous things.” They will be judged and destroyed in the tribulation (Many refer this passage to Joel’s Army as an army doing God’s will through signs and wonders from the Latter Rain being poured out on them). However, the context in which we read about Joel’s Army clearly shows that this army is destructive to Israel (Joel: 3, 5, 6), and God will destroy it. So why would anyone want to be part of this army – Well anyone who believes Cindy ‘False Prophetess’ Jacobs would be happy to join this false Christian army who God compares to Locusts that cause nothing but destruction.]>> There is a linking between Zimbabwe and South Africa, that will be miraculous for I am going to bring great healing between these nations says the Lord [Ay yes, here is that link again that has indeed taken place as South Africa forms part as the mediator in brining order within the country of Zimbabwe. If this is achieved (be it a false peace) it will spread across Africa.]
>> There are treasures of darkness that have waited till this hour in Africa to be released for the greatest harvest that continent has ever seen, and that the Africans will help protect and heal America, the Lord showed me that. [Treasures of darkness? You’ve got to be kidding? Is she referring to Barack Obama born in Africa who will help ‘heal’ America? Hmmm]
>> And that which was despised, God is going to bring a humility into the heart of those in America to humble themselves to receive this word because it is in the healing of the nation that is going to come the receiving of the Africans. [America will humble themselves to an African president, who where previously African’s that we ‘despised’. This African will bring so called healing to their nation.]
>> The Lord is showing me that He is getting ready to build an east to the west road across Africa that will physically open up the heart of Africa. [Yes this makes sense as Obama has promised Africa (on His first African trip to Ghana) financial aid and to not be left out on on meetings regarding world decision making – but on condition they cease corruption and clean up their act].
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16 This is what the LORD Almighty says:
“Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you;
they fill you with false hopes.
They speak visions from their own minds,
not from the mouth of the LORD.
17 They keep saying to those who despise me,
‘The LORD says: You will have peace.’
And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts
they say, ‘No harm will come to you.’
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What does the bible say about false teachers and false prophets:
Jeremiah 5:31 (King James Version)
The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
Sums it up.
‘…priests bear rule by their means…’
They have created their own priestly hierarchy of rank & rule. They invent things the Lord never said, nor can we verify these ‘prophecies’ from the sufficiency of scripture.
‘…and my people love to have it so…’
Some people love this stuff. It’s what they want to hear.
Zimbabwe needs the Gospel of Christ and him crucified for the sins of men, not some Christianized lord of the rings fairy tale.
Hi Amanda,
As always I enjoy reading your aricles! Appreciate your humor and /or sarcasm!
I would like to ask something – the following quote has reference:
“These new modern day prophets insist that the church is to be governed by them based on the structure of the Ephesians 4:11 Fivefold ministry – with absolute authority.”
I would like to know your thoughts on how you think the 5-fold ministry will / sould operate?
Even for a “young” believer like me it is obvious that what’s going on at the moment, is not scriptural.
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
K
Hi Karen
Amanda did not write this. If she did it would say Amanda at the bottom of the article. My name is Deborah (writing as DTW) and then there is Discernment for Africa (DFA) another person(s) who help me with South African type research and other stuff in general. I post the article under the author or DFA sometimes written completely by me or written by someone else with my notes added and then they remain anonymous.
Regarding your question: “I would like to know your thoughts on how you think the 5-fold ministry will / sould operate?”
If it’s clear to you that what is going on is not scriptural why are you asking me how it should be when the bible is clear that the Word of God itself is GOOD enough to teach you without you being governed by a group of human beings who think they are higher up in the realm of spiritual hierarchies than you? Great, happy you answered your own question 😉
Is it not true that all born again Christians are born again, all children of God? We (‘we’ being those who are born again) are all sinners who are saved by Jesus Christ the Son of God, we all have the same Holy Spirit abiding in us who speaks the same truth to us. This is why genuine Christians speak the same ‘language’ so to say, i.e., when someone starts to seriously disagree with you based on biblical teaching red flags are hoisted because the Holy Spirit will not disagree with Himself. So either they are struggling and battling with what is truth or not or they are just not saved and don’t care for the truth. BIG NOTICE. The one who is struggling will not struggle for long if they love the Truth that is Jesus Christ who is the Word of God, the Holy Spirit never lets anyone down who is genuine in their Hearts and love Him. Men are the ones who choose false teachings over Him, we can’t blame anyone else at the end of the day, not even the 5-fold-ministry.
Of course some are more learn-ed than others and this is why we seek fellowship (note with genuine Christians only) where we learn from each other and those who have spent their lives studying the Word. Do you test what they say? Of course. 10 doctorates does not maketh a Christian. (Hmm that’s a good title for an article).
So, now you tell me how you think the 5-fold ministry should operate? If you need to study this subject further and search for the truth I request you do so. Don’t take my word for it. Take God’s Word for it.
Deborah,
Spot on!
I heard a question on Christian radio made to Gary Kah – how come all ‘these’ people who have never formally met or discussed their agendas in any detail are pursuing the exact same goals? (ie globalism). On the other hand – how is it possible that two truly born again Christians can meet for the first time and spend the next 10 hours discussing the Lord and scripture? Without hardly any disagreement in their worldviews?
Simple answer. They are being led of the same Spirit.
Hi Debora,
Thanks for clearing up the name issue! 😀
“So, now you tell me how you think the 5-fold ministry should operate?”
First off, I think that the 5-fold ministry will operate as it should if we realise that titles mean nothing, that function is everything. In other words, rather than claiming the title of “Prophet”, do what a prophet is supposed to do.And if I understand scripture correctly, a prophet is supposed to speak for God and more often than not this would entail serious correction and judgement.
If I listen to modern day “prophets”, they are nothing more than fortune-tellers.
But you are right, more study is needed.
Thanks for taking the time to give me feedback.
Karin
To get a better understanding on this whole 5 fold ministry thing you need to find out the core of Latter Rain teaching. That Israel is the Church and we are in the outpouring as per Joel. Which is completely not true and downright dangerous to even think so. The 5-fold ministry Apostle (can be compared to the super apostles, the ones Paul rebuked in Corinthians). The Prophets (are all false) as all the prophecy we need is in the Bible. In fact there is enough prophecy in there to keep us busy for well…until the end lol. And so we go down the line. Also look into the 7 Mountains thing where 5fm (No reference to the Radio station 5 FM) Christians are trying to infiltrate government, religion, education, science, media art…etc, etc.
I used to get quite irritated when I first started this blog 2 years ago (discerningtheworld.wordpress.com) and people would come on and say, ‘Oh your name is Deborah, you must be a prophetess!!!” Shock Horror. I realised there and then that the church was going back to the Hebrew way. Hey being Christian ain’t enough, you have to be Jewish and born again and you have to join Joel’s army and try take over Jerusalem for yourself, all this while convulsing and flailing under the power of a holy Spirit.
Quite frankly I don’t see them getting very far when manifesting these conditions haha.
Thanks this article & others. We are told the true road is narrow and hard to find. Also to watch & to not be deceived. This is a difficult call when we are surrounded by dominionist “Christianity”. Your work is encouraging.. God bless
My name is under a stone I hope.
Thank you!!! funny name 🙂
Zimbabwe has the ministry of reconciliation that will reunite the African people.
[Actually no that’s South Africa’s job, you are confused]. I want to ask you I think you are a South African. Are you jealous that other nations can be given this ministry. Do you know what she means when she says Ministry of Reconcilliation. Reconcilling people to God and to each other. What do you mean when you say its South Africa’s job? Are you not just speaking out of your self-righteousness and the deception that some in South Africa give to the world whilst displaying prejudice and bias to other African immigrants in South Africa and to each other. Is that the ministry of Reconcilliation. I would love to see South Africa live up that but only through Christ the righteousness of Christ which justifies us before God not the self-righteousness that other people have displayed to the world whilst denying incidents of Xenophobia.
Mzansi
Please read here :
Excerpt from link above posted. Please read more at link provided.
Biblical scenario
The Bible predicts something much worse than xenophobia for the end-time. It refers to a great tribulation when the Antichrist will gain control over the world. According to Revelation 13, he will institute a new world order of political, religious and economic unity on earth. During that time, many wars and natural disasters will occur on earth, but Christians who are spiritually worthy will escape the time of divine judgements (Luke 21:36).
We should look at the bigger picture and determine our actions accordingly. South Africans should not make the mistake of predicting a racially-based war of annihilation on the basis of historical conflicts. Neither should they make the mistake of putting themselves in place of Israel and start listening to the deceptive voices of their own prophets. More importantly still: we should not fall victim to the ecumenical thinking and globalism of the Antichrist’s coming new world order, as we would then deny the true Christ. That will be the most costly mistake that any person can make.
Mzansi wrote:
I think you need to lean about the word deception as the Bible teaches us. Cindy Jacobs
is a WOLF in sheeps clothing and a False Prophetess (self proclaimed by the way)
Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones).
2 Timothy 3:13
But wicked men and imposters will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and leading astray others and being deceived and led astray themselves.
1 John 2:26
I write this to you with reference to those who would deceive you [seduce and lead you astray].
1 John 3:7
Boys (lads), let no one deceive and lead you astray. He who practices righteousness [who is upright, conforming to the divine will in purpose, thought, and action, living a consistently conscientious life] is righteous, even as He is righteous.
Please go read and learn above verses in context. Bible study is important to all Christians. 🙂
Why are there teaching about deceiving in the Bible Msanzi??
Mzansi
errrrrr….. ok….
Whst do you think about this prophecy by one Jonathan Hansen.
http://www.worldministries.org/south_africa.html
In this one, he says South Africa’s problem of Bias and Prejudice has deep roots and was never cured by Apartheid. He implies it now manifests itself in various forms with the players having changed colour. Would you concur with this description of your country and its leadership
Mzansi wrote:
No 1) Not one single Bible verse given by Jonathan Hansen that claims to give a Prophecy?
The term prophecy in Biblical terms mean to interpret the Scriptures the word of God. This is not what Jonathan Hansen is doing?
No 2) I quote from what he says here : I, Jesus Christ, see through your plots of deception and warn you that catastrophe and crisis are coming. The pseudo-economic growth projections will evaporize into nothing but a sea of lies and false promises — words of good intentions that never become fulfilled. Plans of blood will be exposed as blood will be shed and continue to be shed. end of quote. http://www.worldministries.org/south_africa.html
This is nowhere to be found in the Bible my humble opinion do not believe what Jonathan Hansen says for the Word of God says test every spirit to see whether it proceeds from God and what Jonathan Hansen says does not. For Jesus never spoke these words claimed above it is not to be found in the Bible. Mzansi start to read your Bible please and start of with the ten commandments.
Mzansi wrote:
Mzanzi
Men of every colour, race, nationality, are evil and deceitful – without Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour in an individuals life nothing will ever be good and nothing will ever come to fruition.
Jonathan Hansen is a false prophet. He has the audacity to speak about Jesus Christ in the 1st person… “I, Jesus Christ, …”. Unbelievable.
why not wait and see if these prophecies are not going to come to pass rather than try and get popularity by dismissing other people’s prophesies. are you a prophet yourself,maybe you can tell us what is going to happen yourself……..
Innocent
You see, it goes like this. Cindy Jacobs has been proven countless times to be wrong. Therefore by biblical standards she is a FALSE PROPHET. God never gets anything wrong, and He never lies either. So Innocent, I am sorry to say but you are wrong and you need to do more research before you come and comment. Do you not realise WHO you are really commenting about? Satan. By supporting Cindy Jacobs, a proven false teacher, and false prophetess, you support a false god.
Innocent
There are no people alive who have enough time to wait for these false prophecies to be fulfilled, because to wait for eternity is just a few years longer than most will live.
I have a much better plan, and it’s a whole lot more fun and highly profitable too. Start by reading about the truth in the Bible, you see and forget about the nonsense lies of self-proclaimed money hungry false deceiving prophets. They’re all wrong, anyway, not because I say so, but when you read the Bible, you’ll agree with me.
Secondly find Jesus right outside your door and let Him in. Tell Him you are heartbrokenly sorry for all the sins you have ever done which made Him cry, because he loved you more than your parent ever could. Promise yourself that you will never repeat them, and don’t, ever again. Stay on your knees in prayer for an hour, a day, a week as long as you need to, for you to feel sure that you are forgiven for your old bad life. That will be followed by fun like you never knew existed, because when it’s done, you will be a brand new person. A brand new person feels so good that even a brand new Ferrari makes no impression on them. That is the real deal, that type of fun.
Thirdly now, you will automatically receive so many free gifts, so many you’ll never grow tired of them. Your could lay your hands on some seriously awesome gifts: go see for yourself in the Bible, it’s like a catalogue of wisdom vs foolishness and what prizes you can win for your Faith. Go see the list in the book of 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 and still more for you to collect in Galatians 5:22-23. With these capital gains, used correctly you can start to look toward the only gift that matters, anyway, Innocent, eternal salvation with Jesus Christ in heaven for yourself.
Ok, so lets assume you do the right thing and you get all the gifts and peace. Now you can sit back for a small moment in time and think: “Innocent, my beloved self, you have a great God, so great I cannot even understand why I am so special to Him, why would He give this all to me freely?” The answers will be everywhere and what is more, your personal empire of love, peace and understanding will grow every day, as long as you keep to the simple rules, which you wouldn’t want to change anyway.
How does that sound to you as an exchange plan to rather than hanging around waiting, being totally unsure whether the False prophetess can or can’t and what it might cost you, or it might not work and you’ll be embarrassed. Rather seek where there are only truths, only true Prophets appointed by the one true God, not a showgirl from offices of a TV network. I leave you one little task do do: Find and read the prophecies of the true prophets, I gave you good clues where you can get them, and compare those to Cindy Jacobs flapping her mouth. You should be running, my good friend…With all our love in all of the Christians of the world, made one in the Body of Christ we await your joyful next comment here.
We have no rights to tell that Cindy Jacobs,Chuck Pierce are false prophets,because its God who anointed them and Using them in a mighty way as a channel to the nations.The vision is kept for the appointed time and it shall come to pass,so that the world will mourn and apologise for the wrong statements they have given against these mighy prophets..God will honour these prophets and the people will be rewarded according to their deeds.To god be the glory.Amen
Yada yada bla bla bla
Mr. Moses wrote “To god be the glory.Amen”
Yes, he is following false prophets who follow a false god.
are you tearing the church or you are building her?
Good Morning everyone, that is if you stay in NZ
I have been reading some of your comments from the questions asked and it is refreshing to find someone
who holds to SOUND biblical doctrine and uses scripture
to answer. Does not the Psalms tell us that “Thy word is
a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path”. So many
people hero worship the leaders and shepherds swearing
allegience to them and hang on their every word. I for
one do not, as Gods word says to respect, pray , encourage and honour where honour is due and to be a practical and spiritual blessing to them as a mature christian. Many fall into a blind lead the blind senario as they do not apply these truths to their lives, but fall and are seduced by false prohets and
false teachers. Christ is the true light that came into the world, but the world refuses to accept His glorious wisdom and the light of His word.
Blessings and wisdom to to from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ by the power and ability of His Holy Spirit
A brother and watchman in Christ
Andre
Ademokun, the ones who are tearing down the Church are the wolves in sheep’s clothing who are allowed to ravage God’s people and lead people astray.
Those who stand for sound doctrine are the ones building up the Church.
This site is dedicated to building up the Church and exposing those who would do harm to the Bride of Christ. The aim is to protect the Church and warn of the enemies of the Church.
Got it?
Just because the prophecy has not been fulfilled does not mean that is not doing a great thing in ZImbabwe. I am a Zimbabwean and I just read this prophecy today but I want you to know that God gave me Joel 2 from verse 18-27 for Zimbabwe. I want to assure you that God has already started doing wonders in Zimbabwe and if there is a nation that is passionate for God – it is Zimbabwe. Ask people like Joyce Meyer who have come to ZImbabwe and they will tell you. Unfortunatey whether you believe a prophecy or not God speaks & I know God Almighty spoke to me just as He did to Cindy and this is happening!!! It is a season of restoration in Zimbabwe and God is saying “no more shame for my people”! Rejoice all Zimbabweans for God is doing a great thing in our nation! You can call us prophets of doom but even Jesus was not believed. Visit Zimbabwe today and see what is happening, already Zimbabwe has been said to have the greatest diamond deposit in the world. This was discovered recently!! I know God is doing a new thing – Zimbabwe will be a jewel of Africa!
Charity
>> I am a Zimbabwean and I just read this prophecy today but I want you to know that God gave me Joel 2 from verse 18-27 for Zimbabwe
Well talk about twisting scripture. Joel 2 is for ISRAEL, Charity – NOT Zimbabwe.
>> I want to assure you that God has already started doing wonders in Zimbabwe and if there is a nation that is passionate for God – it is Zimbabwe
You kidding? If God is doing wonders for Zimbabwe, then why is the country still in UTTER turmoil with no sign of free and fair elections ever.
>> Ask people like Joyce Meyer who have come to ZImbabwe and they will tell you.
I live in South Africa Charity, I have more Zimbabweans around me per square inch than the total amount to be actually living in Zimbabwe and from what I hear, things are bad and getting WORSE AGAIN.
Charity, it seems your focus is the treasure you can gather here on earth, but the bible tells us that our TREASURE is in the AFTER LIFE. You are following Kingdom Now teaching where you are supposed to TAKE BACK the earth for Christ before His return. No where in the bible does it state it. In fact the opposite is true. Rumour of Wars, Wars, Peace and Safety and then the Anti-Christ. Which Christ will you be following?
Debs you have this sense of humour laced through your responses LOOOL. where did you get this?!! they’re HILARIOUS!!!! 😉
Lee
I dunno, ha ha 😉
I am an old lady of 72 years old from South Africa. I have discovered this website by “chance”?? Can I say something? I agree 100% with Deborah…no human being is her alpha or omega, but it seems only the Lord is her Alpha and Omega. Correct? I do correspond with a vice principal from one of the Universities in Zim.He is a poet, pastor and a very wise man and I can say this, all these things prophesied never came to pass and that is many, many years ago. I can just shake my head about all these so-called prophecies. This friend of mine, has to eat – what I can describe – the porridge and then as another meal, the burnt pieces in the pot. Compare that to the Cindy Jacobs, Peter Wagner, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer etc. Why dont they give some of their millions to help those poor starving people in Zimbabwe…that is what Jesus would have done! They visit the poor and troubled countries, hand out a few toys, books etc, appear on TV and then they are gone! Boy oh boy, all this prophecies re that once beautiful country is in my opinion a lot of nonsense. Ask Cindy Jacobs to go and live in Zimbabwe and then “prophecy” again. In all my 62 years being a child of God, I have never heard, seen or experienced any prophecy to come to pass except those in the Bible. Please people, look to Jesus NOT to man or woman. People put all these “well known” preachers and prophets on a pedestal. They quote their jargon as gospel. If that pedestal topple over and that person falls flat on his face, will you still recognise him/her? I dont think so and what do you do? Go and find another screaming man or woman! The last couple of years all these “prophets” and preachers has fallen flat on their faces for all the false “preaching”. What reason do I have to say all this? I personally attended one of these churches for 18 years who LOVED to prophecy or invite prophets. To me it was always strange that the prophecies were directed to the people sitting in front of the platform?? Who were these people? pastors, leaders etc…the ordinary(?) church goer was invisible. For all these years not one of the prophecies came to pass. Even the promises made by the Senior pastor were false. Did God anoint these people? How do you know? Look at the fruit of these people!!!! Live as long as I have and then you will recognise the Wolves from the shepherds and sadly the shepherds are so few, because the wolves are eating and becoming FAT!
LOL surely that humour must be given as a gift when dealing with so many serious things!