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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-433295&quot;&gt;anton&lt;/a&gt;.

anton

Yip, this guy is in fact antisemitic and I am guessing will zig heil the antiChrist when he pops onto the scene and be the first to want to eradicate jews.  I would not be surprised if this guy is a Calvinist - Calvinists tend to believe in amillenialism and believe that Jerusalem came to an end in 70AD and in fact the end times took place at the same time (they ignore a lot of biblical prophecy to come to this conclusion lol) they also believe that the antichrist is not a person (a man of lawlessness) but every evil person on this planet that is well....not Calvinist.  These people don&#039;t believe that Israel is God&#039;s chosen people. 

&gt;&gt;   I and a few others have taken the time to study their teachings,

It&#039;s a pity he didn&#039;t take the time to study what the bible actually says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-433295" >anton</a>.</p>
<p>anton</p>
<p>Yip, this guy is in fact antisemitic and I am guessing will zig heil the antiChrist when he pops onto the scene and be the first to want to eradicate jews.  I would not be surprised if this guy is a Calvinist &#8211; Calvinists tend to believe in amillenialism and believe that Jerusalem came to an end in 70AD and in fact the end times took place at the same time (they ignore a lot of biblical prophecy to come to this conclusion lol) they also believe that the antichrist is not a person (a man of lawlessness) but every evil person on this planet that is well&#8230;.not Calvinist.  These people don&#8217;t believe that Israel is God&#8217;s chosen people. </p>
<p>>>   I and a few others have taken the time to study their teachings,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity he didn&#8217;t take the time to study what the bible actually says.</p>
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		By: anton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thanx Tom .. I agree .. Think he is surely deceived !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanx Tom .. I agree .. Think he is surely deceived !!</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-433295&quot;&gt;anton&lt;/a&gt;.

anton,

It is abundantly clear that this person is not saved. He believes in another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Bible. Don&#039;t waste your time.]]></description>
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<p>anton,</p>
<p>It is abundantly clear that this person is not saved. He believes in another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Bible. Don&#8217;t waste your time.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can every one perhaps give some comment on this very &quot;uninformed&quot;  person , He sent me a mail totally criticizing The Jews and Israel ... I would love for all to give some insight .... Here are the things he said about the Jews and Israel 

....&#062;&#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; Satan&#039;s biggest lie called Israel, shows how you have all been duped by their Father of Lies. John 8:44, John 9:22, Rev 2:9, 1 John 4:3, 1 John 2:22. Yes, Israel died in 70 AD, forever. They still reject the SON and call him a deceiver and false Messiah , so God rejects this blasphemy and lie, that the Antichrist Zionists call Israel. Christians are confusing ancient, extinct biblical Israel with the modern Zionist counterfeit.1948 is no fulfillment of any ancient prophecy. It is simply the will of Antichrist Zionists to overthrow the verdict of God and Christ upon them in Matthew 24:2. Israel may well be as overthrown again as it was in 70 AD , and as it was in the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 AD.
Zionism is essentially doomed to failure, for God is against those who are against his Son, and these people do not have God, no matter how much they claim to be chosen or have God, for those who deny the SON, do not have the FATHER , either. 1 John 2:22-23, John 14:6.Maybe its time you and so many others take some time to study this cult posing as biblical Judaism , before you judge and condemn. I and a few others have taken the time to study their teachings, and are appalled by what Christianity has been led to believe about this cult. Its time to open your own eyes , instead of following the blind.All their teachings they take from the Ramban, and Rashi, who lived and died 1000 years ago. Even if a Jew does not read the Talmud or is aware of the teachings of the sages, he or she is heavily influenced by the doctrines. 
Rashi&#039;s explanation of the great Messianic prophecy in Daniel ch9 is utterly absurd, a totally inept and clumsy attempt to explain away and deny the Messiah&#039;s time of arrival, prophesied by God and sent by his messenger Gabriel to Daniel . It is appalling that millions of Jews for 1000 years now have been led astray by this man. But he can get away with this kind of crude interpretation of prophecy, and twisting , because it all aligns with the Father of Lies, who hates this prophecy of Messiah&#039;s exact time of arrival to the ancient Jewish people, for it proves Christ was the true Messiah and He was the fulfillment of this great prophecy , and of course, Satan and his synagogues of the antimessiah doesn&#039;t like that.
They are so blinded by their sages, that they would stagger through another 100000 years and 100 more holocausts, before they would ever come to their senses and admit and believe that the Jew who came to them 2000 years ago is their actual real Messiah, and believe on Him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can every one perhaps give some comment on this very &#8220;uninformed&#8221;  person , He sent me a mail totally criticizing The Jews and Israel &#8230; I would love for all to give some insight &#8230;. Here are the things he said about the Jews and Israel </p>
<p>&#8230;.&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Satan&#8217;s biggest lie called Israel, shows how you have all been duped by their Father of Lies. John 8:44, John 9:22, Rev 2:9, 1 John 4:3, 1 John 2:22. Yes, Israel died in 70 AD, forever. They still reject the SON and call him a deceiver and false Messiah , so God rejects this blasphemy and lie, that the Antichrist Zionists call Israel. Christians are confusing ancient, extinct biblical Israel with the modern Zionist counterfeit.1948 is no fulfillment of any ancient prophecy. It is simply the will of Antichrist Zionists to overthrow the verdict of God and Christ upon them in Matthew 24:2. Israel may well be as overthrown again as it was in 70 AD , and as it was in the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 AD.<br />
Zionism is essentially doomed to failure, for God is against those who are against his Son, and these people do not have God, no matter how much they claim to be chosen or have God, for those who deny the SON, do not have the FATHER , either. 1 John 2:22-23, John 14:6.Maybe its time you and so many others take some time to study this cult posing as biblical Judaism , before you judge and condemn. I and a few others have taken the time to study their teachings, and are appalled by what Christianity has been led to believe about this cult. Its time to open your own eyes , instead of following the blind.All their teachings they take from the Ramban, and Rashi, who lived and died 1000 years ago. Even if a Jew does not read the Talmud or is aware of the teachings of the sages, he or she is heavily influenced by the doctrines.<br />
Rashi&#8217;s explanation of the great Messianic prophecy in Daniel ch9 is utterly absurd, a totally inept and clumsy attempt to explain away and deny the Messiah&#8217;s time of arrival, prophesied by God and sent by his messenger Gabriel to Daniel . It is appalling that millions of Jews for 1000 years now have been led astray by this man. But he can get away with this kind of crude interpretation of prophecy, and twisting , because it all aligns with the Father of Lies, who hates this prophecy of Messiah&#8217;s exact time of arrival to the ancient Jewish people, for it proves Christ was the true Messiah and He was the fulfillment of this great prophecy , and of course, Satan and his synagogues of the antimessiah doesn&#8217;t like that.<br />
They are so blinded by their sages, that they would stagger through another 100000 years and 100 more holocausts, before they would ever come to their senses and admit and believe that the Jew who came to them 2000 years ago is their actual real Messiah, and believe on Him.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1362&quot;&gt;Michael Anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael.

Totally agree!!!  Well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1362" >Michael Anthony</a>.</p>
<p>Michael.</p>
<p>Totally agree!!!  Well said.</p>
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		By: Michael Anthony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...And what I actually meant to say is that when it comes to Israel it is not a case of Jews and Palestinians needing Salvation - that&#039;s the obvious but missing the point - they&#039;re all human, fallen, need to repent and put they trust in the finished work of the cross. Goes without saying. That&#039;s not the point at all. When it comes to Israel God has already told us how he will deal with them. 

The point is that if Israel ceases to exist the whole bible, God, covenants etc are all lies. Without Israel there is no day of the Lord, literal fullfilment of Daniel&#039;s prophecies or Revelation for that matter, or Zechariah for that matter. No millenium. 
Only a renmant of Israel is currently saved, there are over 1000 Messianic congregations worldwide. In the 70&#039;s you could count the number of these on one hand. God has already instituted an incredible plan for the 144000 to evangelize the Jewish nation and until then (tribulation) more Jews will continue to come to salvation. There is a spiritual blindness, but in part only until then. 

May God bless Israel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And what I actually meant to say is that when it comes to Israel it is not a case of Jews and Palestinians needing Salvation &#8211; that&#8217;s the obvious but missing the point &#8211; they&#8217;re all human, fallen, need to repent and put they trust in the finished work of the cross. Goes without saying. That&#8217;s not the point at all. When it comes to Israel God has already told us how he will deal with them. </p>
<p>The point is that if Israel ceases to exist the whole bible, God, covenants etc are all lies. Without Israel there is no day of the Lord, literal fullfilment of Daniel&#8217;s prophecies or Revelation for that matter, or Zechariah for that matter. No millenium.<br />
Only a renmant of Israel is currently saved, there are over 1000 Messianic congregations worldwide. In the 70&#8217;s you could count the number of these on one hand. God has already instituted an incredible plan for the 144000 to evangelize the Jewish nation and until then (tribulation) more Jews will continue to come to salvation. There is a spiritual blindness, but in part only until then. </p>
<p>May God bless Israel.</p>
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		By: Michael Anthony		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The bible is as clear as daylight on the subject of Israel. The ‘age of the gentiles’ aka ‘the church age’ is almost over (from Christ’s resurrection to the time he comes back for his church). Then the time of Jacob’s trouble begins… God then deals directly with a distinct people, the apple of his eye; Israel. That would be the tribulation. After Revelation 3 the church is not mentioned again, but Israel is consistently in the picture and the central focus of the book. (It is not allegorical, it is literal, even the 144000, all the 12 tribes are implicitly mentioned) 
Israel may be a secular humanist society today but Romans 8,9 and 10 is perfectly clear, the remnant of Israel shall (eventually) be saved. Full stop, end of debate. 
Is it because Israel deserve it? Absolutely not! Is it because they are any better than anyone else? In fact the contrary is true…

Here is the reason, Ezekiel 36:22

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name&#039;s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
 
The only way to interpret scripture is with scripture. There are three rules for interpretation – context, context and context and the best context is the whole counsel of God. Go read Ezekiel 37 – the rebirth of Irsael, a modern day miracle. But please read 36 and 38 as well. It leaves no doubt what the prophet was writing about. 

Romans 11:1
1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

This is not an allegorical or metaphorical Israel, it is a literal Israel. Why would Paul mention his tribe if he actually meant that the church is Israel. No tribes in the church. 

 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, there shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The bible is clear on the subject. I could go on and on. I personally struggle with the concept of anyone calling themselves Christian and being completely oblivious to clear prophecy and biblical teaching where ot comes to (literal) Irsael. They have swallowed replacement theology hook line and poison. How can anyone be Christian and not have an affinity for Israel? They will inherit the land forever!! (That would be…wait for it – the Land of Israel) Because God Almighty has made an everlasting covenant with them.
Israel; that would be from where Christ rules during the Millennium. More specifically, Jerusalem, His holy city.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bible is as clear as daylight on the subject of Israel. The ‘age of the gentiles’ aka ‘the church age’ is almost over (from Christ’s resurrection to the time he comes back for his church). Then the time of Jacob’s trouble begins… God then deals directly with a distinct people, the apple of his eye; Israel. That would be the tribulation. After Revelation 3 the church is not mentioned again, but Israel is consistently in the picture and the central focus of the book. (It is not allegorical, it is literal, even the 144000, all the 12 tribes are implicitly mentioned)<br />
Israel may be a secular humanist society today but Romans 8,9 and 10 is perfectly clear, the remnant of Israel shall (eventually) be saved. Full stop, end of debate.<br />
Is it because Israel deserve it? Absolutely not! Is it because they are any better than anyone else? In fact the contrary is true…</p>
<p>Here is the reason, Ezekiel 36:22</p>
<p>22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name&#8217;s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.</p>
<p>The only way to interpret scripture is with scripture. There are three rules for interpretation – context, context and context and the best context is the whole counsel of God. Go read Ezekiel 37 – the rebirth of Irsael, a modern day miracle. But please read 36 and 38 as well. It leaves no doubt what the prophet was writing about. </p>
<p>Romans 11:1<br />
1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.</p>
<p>This is not an allegorical or metaphorical Israel, it is a literal Israel. Why would Paul mention his tribe if he actually meant that the church is Israel. No tribes in the church. </p>
<p> 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, there shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:</p>
<p>The bible is clear on the subject. I could go on and on. I personally struggle with the concept of anyone calling themselves Christian and being completely oblivious to clear prophecy and biblical teaching where ot comes to (literal) Irsael. They have swallowed replacement theology hook line and poison. How can anyone be Christian and not have an affinity for Israel? They will inherit the land forever!! (That would be…wait for it – the Land of Israel) Because God Almighty has made an everlasting covenant with them.<br />
Israel; that would be from where Christ rules during the Millennium. More specifically, Jerusalem, His holy city.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1217&quot;&gt;Mark Penrith&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark

Um...

&lt;blockquote&gt;You said:   &quot;I have a less clouded understanding of where you’re coming from.&quot;   therefore you are LESS clouded than me regardng the topic at hand

You said:  &quot;Surely it’s not OK to wage a war against civilians or to repress a people group? And isn’t it OK for the people of the world to point that out?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How can you even ask such a question of Israel knowing fully well the Biblical situation on the matter?  &lt;strong&gt;This is why I asked&lt;/strong&gt;:.....&quot;BUT if you are coming from an semi anti-semetic point of view then…you got the wrong blog for that&quot;.   &lt;strong&gt;I never said you WERE.&lt;/strong&gt;

But then again you came here to nitpick because you are part of or being overtaken by Emergent  dialogue.

This article is about Roman Catholicism (who are anti-semetic) pointing fingers at Israel.  This is about Rome (who is the WHORE DRENCHED IN SAINTS BLOOD) saying that Israel is sinning against God.

sighs...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1217" >Mark Penrith</a>.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>Um&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>You said:   &#8220;I have a less clouded understanding of where you’re coming from.&#8221;   therefore you are LESS clouded than me regardng the topic at hand</p>
<p>You said:  &#8220;Surely it’s not OK to wage a war against civilians or to repress a people group? And isn’t it OK for the people of the world to point that out?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>How can you even ask such a question of Israel knowing fully well the Biblical situation on the matter?  <strong>This is why I asked</strong>:&#8230;..&#8221;BUT if you are coming from an semi anti-semetic point of view then…you got the wrong blog for that&#8221;.   <strong>I never said you WERE.</strong></p>
<p>But then again you came here to nitpick because you are part of or being overtaken by Emergent  dialogue.</p>
<p>This article is about Roman Catholicism (who are anti-semetic) pointing fingers at Israel.  This is about Rome (who is the WHORE DRENCHED IN SAINTS BLOOD) saying that Israel is sinning against God.</p>
<p>sighs&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi there,

No, the &quot;clouded&quot; comment was made of myself not of you. I didn&#039;t understand where you were coming from at first.

I&#039;m not anti-semetic. That&#039;s insulting. I believe that God, in His dealings with man, has leveled the playing field for a time. Jews and Gentiles, both equally depraved before a Holy God are both equally deserving of divine judgement.

Uh, I&#039;m done, nothing left to say. Interesting post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>No, the &#8220;clouded&#8221; comment was made of myself not of you. I didn&#8217;t understand where you were coming from at first.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not anti-semetic. That&#8217;s insulting. I believe that God, in His dealings with man, has leveled the playing field for a time. Jews and Gentiles, both equally depraved before a Holy God are both equally deserving of divine judgement.</p>
<p>Uh, I&#8217;m done, nothing left to say. Interesting post.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1212&quot;&gt;Mark Penrith&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark

&lt;blockquote&gt;&gt;&gt;   Surely it’s not OK to wage a war against civilians or to repress a people group? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

We are born into a sinful world, death, murder, rape will happen because of every mans sin in their lives (no matter race, nationality etc, etc)

&lt;blockquote&gt;&gt;&gt; And isn’t it OK for the people of the world to point that out?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who is the one pointing the finger? a world of men who live in sin!

&lt;blockquote&gt;&gt;&gt;   but until then they need to tow the line like any other people group in the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Takes 2 to tango but Israel gets blamed &lt;strong&gt;for all the problems&lt;/strong&gt;.   War, conflict, etc is all caused because of sin.  If the world was not in sin we would not have this problem, but the world is evil and choose wicked teachings and doctrines of demons over the Gospel of Jesus - so quite frankly, what do you expect?  happiness while abiding in sin? No...never happen, ever.  

How does one get out of this world?  We repent of our sin through Jesus Christ the Son of God, who died on the cross for all those who CHOOSE to believe.  His blood washes away our sin presenting us before God spotless. Filled with the Holy Spirit.  Being born again creates a new creature, you become a child of God, part of the spiritual church, the body of Christ.  

But today, repentance of sin is a taboo.  And has been replaced with other methods of conneting one to God (or the false Christ)

I am not sure what you are really trying to get at with your comment.  How can you side with the Roman Catholic Church - the murderer of Saints as per Revelations.  IF you are coming from an &lt;em&gt;semi &lt;/em&gt;anti-semetic point of view then...you got the wrong blog for that.

As for being clouded?  No, my skies are crystal blue all the time with a mild south easter blowing just to keep things cool.  When you are born again you have the Holy Spirit who leads you into all truth.  He comforts you and councels you and will lead you into all understanding and remembrance of Jesus Christ the Son of God.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/09/04/church-leaders-judging-israel-how-convenient-for-them/#comment-1212" >Mark Penrith</a>.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
<blockquote><p>>>   Surely it’s not OK to wage a war against civilians or to repress a people group? </p></blockquote>
<p>We are born into a sinful world, death, murder, rape will happen because of every mans sin in their lives (no matter race, nationality etc, etc)</p>
<blockquote><p>>> And isn’t it OK for the people of the world to point that out?</p></blockquote>
<p>Who is the one pointing the finger? a world of men who live in sin!</p>
<blockquote><p>>>   but until then they need to tow the line like any other people group in the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Takes 2 to tango but Israel gets blamed <strong>for all the problems</strong>.   War, conflict, etc is all caused because of sin.  If the world was not in sin we would not have this problem, but the world is evil and choose wicked teachings and doctrines of demons over the Gospel of Jesus &#8211; so quite frankly, what do you expect?  happiness while abiding in sin? No&#8230;never happen, ever.  </p>
<p>How does one get out of this world?  We repent of our sin through Jesus Christ the Son of God, who died on the cross for all those who CHOOSE to believe.  His blood washes away our sin presenting us before God spotless. Filled with the Holy Spirit.  Being born again creates a new creature, you become a child of God, part of the spiritual church, the body of Christ.  </p>
<p>But today, repentance of sin is a taboo.  And has been replaced with other methods of conneting one to God (or the false Christ)</p>
<p>I am not sure what you are really trying to get at with your comment.  How can you side with the Roman Catholic Church &#8211; the murderer of Saints as per Revelations.  IF you are coming from an <em>semi </em>anti-semetic point of view then&#8230;you got the wrong blog for that.</p>
<p>As for being clouded?  No, my skies are crystal blue all the time with a mild south easter blowing just to keep things cool.  When you are born again you have the Holy Spirit who leads you into all truth.  He comforts you and councels you and will lead you into all understanding and remembrance of Jesus Christ the Son of God.</p>
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