The Dominionist Faith of Angus Buchan – Faith Like Potatoes

Angus buchan - Faith like Potatoes

The Dominionist Faith of Angus Buchan – Faith Like Potatoes

(ORIGINAL AND MOST UPDATED VERSION) It has taken me about 4 weeks to research Angus Buchan, author of ‘Faith like Potatoes’.  (This was last year 2008 when I wrote this, I had to delete my blog soon after writing this article because of threats – This article is back online now with a few updates). It’s been a long 4 weeks for me. I’ve read his website and newsletters and a book or two, and read over a hundred people say on blogs etc., that he preaches ‘repentance and Jesus Christ’. People are flocking from all over the country to attend his conferences, the two I will mention for now is the Mighty Men Conference in Greytown where 60,000 men pitched tent on a farm and Loftus Rugby Stadium in Pretoria where an approximate 71,000 people came to hear Angus Buchan speak.

When I saw the photo’s of the Mighty Men Conference I could not believe what I was seeing – it really did tug at my heart strings and my eyes welled up with tears. However the first thing that came to my mind was ‘Promise Keepers’ and the Holy Spirit telling me something is wrong.  Promise Keepers is a Masonic Word of Faith organisation that men and only men must come together and make a change for Christ. Then I received photos of Loftus and I had another heart tugging moment, but again the Holy Spirit said to me that something is not right. So off I went to research Angus Buchan. Boy was that only difficult – there is hardly any information about this man, except little excerpts on his ‘faith like potatoes’ book and movie. I put off my research for another day. Mainly because I truly wanted to believe that Angus Buchan is a genuine man of God, that he does preach true repentance and points to the Cross and Jesus Christ and NOT another gospel and another Jesus Christ. The tug on my heart strings had become a spiritual tug o’ war instead. I was reminded over and over again of what the Word of God says about the last days.

Loftus Versveld Stadium (71,000 people)

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Mighty Men Conference 2008 (60,000 thousand men)

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Absa Stadium 2008   (40,000+ people)

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I took this photo – it started to rain

Mighty Men Conference 2009  (200,000 + men showed up this year)

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Blowing of the Shofar – Hebrew Roots movement

This is going to be a very long article, please read the whole thing, then I urge you to go to your Bible and search the scriptures, study the Word of God and find yourself approved –

2 Timothy 2:15:15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.”

Let those who love the truth hear the truth through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in your life.

First things first, before I get into anything else, I want to address the matter of Revival for this is the crux of Angus Buchan  teachings.

Angus Buchan mentions revival many times:

  1. “Indeed we are living in a time of revival!” [1]
  2. “We are not praying for revival anymore, we believe that we are in revival!” [2]
  3. “My dear friends, we are in REVIVAL at the moment!” “and to ask Him to bring revival to our beloved Southern Africa.” [3]
  4. “We know that we are in revival now.” [4]
  5. “The good news is revival is here and we are part of this” [5]
  6. “We are really living in revival!” “God move in awesome miraculous ways in revival time” “Well I want to tell you that you are the revival” [6]
  7. “…and really trusting God for revival in their area” [7]
  8. “We know once again that we are in revival in South Africa!”  ” We are seeing revival in South Africa” [8]

Angus Buchan mentions many times that we are indeed living in the end times:

  1. “Even as we see things culminating, we believe that we are living in the last days. I know that we have said that for some time, but we can see that all the signs are there now and it is very exciting, because the Bible says that if Christ be for us, who can stand against us. Rom.8:31 [2]
  2. “I believe that we are in the last days and God is rallying His troops for the last battle.” [3]
  3. “The Lord has prompted me to share His intentions for His men in these last days” [5]

So we can clearly see that Angus Buchan believes wholeheartedly that we are in revival and he believes that were are clearly living in the last days as well. Is there anything out of the ordinary with his thinking?  Well…yes! I say yes because in the Word of God, Jesus spoke of the last days and gave us many warnings as to what is going to transpire. And it’s not all faith like potatoes. Jesus said there will be many false prophets rising up, deceiving many, leading many astray to a false gospel and a false Christ. Jesus warned us of three things: False Christ’s, false prophets and false signs and wonders.

Matthew 24:3-6  3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.”

  • Note: ‘I am the Christ’  or “Christed”, the word Christ means anointed (one)“.

2 Thessalonians 2:3  Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.”

  • Note: So first before the man of lawlessness is revealed we as Christians will face an apostasy, a great falling away from genuine faith in Jesus Christ to another Gospel that appears to be biblical but is not – hence the words, deceive and deception. It comes packaged in a nice pretty big box with a big ribbon on top, but inside lurks something sinister – you are being conditioned to accept the anti-Christ.

1 Timothy 4:1  1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,

  • Note: Deception is just that, deception; it means you won’t be able to tell the wood from the trees UNLESS you adhere to the truth in the Bible. Anyone who says they are can’t be deceived is already deceived. People will listen to and follow men who preach a gospel that sounds so Biblical but yet at the same time their gospel is deceitful, and who is the greatest deceiver? Satan, the father of lies.

2 Timothy 3: 1,12-13  1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. … 12 Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. [Adhere to the Word of God] 13 But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

  • Note: Day by day, week by week, year by year, the deception will get worse and worse. We are truly in the last days. South Africa has been very sheltered from the deception that has wrought American Christianity. I would say that 90% of South Africa has no clue as to what has been going on, yet at the same time we have been subtly introduced to false teachers over the years and the Christian book stores (CUM bookstores) are filled to the brim with books and DVDs that preach another gospel and point to another Jesus. We have been deceived and we didn’t even know it. We have been deceived because we just take for granted that what we are being taught is correct without TESTING to see if it’s true. We have slowly but surely over the years been manipulated to accept ear tickling sermons and books by well known preachers that sound Biblical but yet contains a poisonous stream of unsound teachings. This poisonous stream that has infiltrated the true Gospel of Jesus Christ is growing larger and larger each year, in so much that it’s now a strong flowing river, drowning out the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Luke 17:20-21  “Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, nor will they say, “Look, here it is! or There!”  for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”

  • This poison is as follows: Revival in the end times accompanied with signs and wonders (healings, signs in the sky etc, transferable anointings, contemplative prayer, angels, restoring of Apostles and Prophets (5 fold ministry) and the acceptance of extra Biblical revelation or new prophecy that does not come from the bible etc. They preach repentance and Jesus Christ and speak of His Blood, but the repentance is not true repentance and the Christ they speak of is not Jesus Christ for they do not adhere to the whole Truth.   Isaiah 8 v 20: “To the law and to the testimony if they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
  • We do not have to establish a Kingdom of God on this earth through revival or try usher in the Kingdom of God on this earth through ‘revival’ because the Kingdom of God is already among us. It’s Jesus Christ!! Anyone who is attempting to usher in the Kingdom of God in the last days denies the fact that Jesus Christ is the ‘Kingdom of God’ and He is already here, in the Written Word of God (Bible) for Jesus Christ is the Word.    John 1 v 1; “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11  “9  that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false.”

  • Note: The warning from God for the last days is very clear – love the Truth, the Word of God and you will not succumb to deception.
  • The last days are riddled with signs and wonders that encompass healing and people supposedly raised from the dead etc. But when these ministers are asked for verifiable proof of these wondrous things that have taken place they can’t provide a single bit of solid evidence. Some of them are brazen enough to have videos on their websites showing healings that have taken place – the blind see, pain is removed, cancer cured, etc. Yet no contact details are provided for the people who were healed so that we, you or anyone else can follow-up to see if they were genuinely healed or if it was it just psychological (they thought they were but turned out later they were not), has the sickness come back, what has happened to them since? Did they receive another illness in its place, or worse – what has happened to their spiritual lives; are they now finding themselves diving head first into greater deceptive doctrines because their healing was in exchange for something far worse, a demonic affliction? Of course Satan can heal – he is not dividing his kingdom if he takes away an illness and gives you something worse instead – something that will cause you to follow him instead of Jesus Christ.
  • So what’s it going to be? Illness or a good chance of losing your salvation? Which one would you rather have? No one likes to be sick, we all know this. But guess who also knows this…yes, Satan. Sickness is one of his greatest playing cards. He knows most people will accept ‘almost’ anything to be free from illness.

I will speak more on healings a little bit later in this article as healings seem to play a part in Angus Buchan ministry, but for now I want to get back to Angus Buchan and some other things he has said.

Angus Buchan, huge crowds and signs in the sky

So, what is it about Angus Buchan and his ‘ability’ to draw such huge crowds? What is it that Angus Buchan actually preaches? Why is there very little information about what he really preaches – everyone has to go on ‘hear say’.  For instance, “someone told me that he preaches repentance and Jesus Christ” or, “I heard from someone that a sign appeared above one of his gatherings which was witnessed by thousands of people – A heart shaped 3D cloud formed in a relatively clear blue sky – only God would do that, therefore Angus Buchan is truly a man of God.”  Stop…say that again? A sign appeared in the sky of a heart shaped cloud and this now validates that he is truly a man of God? Did I say stop? Yes I did. Stop and listen South Africa – listen and understand what the Word of God says to a generation who seeks after signs and wonders.

Matthew 12:39   3 But he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign…

So off I went to research again, here is what Angus Buchan had to say in a newsletter:

“Greetings, in Jesus’s precious name. I have recently returned from the Izak Steyl Stadium in Vanderbijlpark. I really want to thank God for Jurie Cilliers and his team (too many to mention), who did an outstanding job in organising this meeting. We saw 35,000+ men, women and children come to the stadium, starting at 11am. When I started speaking at 4pm, the place was absolutely pregnant with the presence of the Holy Spirit. I just thank God for what He did. We even had a sign! The people were pointing into the sky while I was preaching and I thought maybe a microlight had flown past, but there was a heart-shaped cloud in the sky above the stadium – awesome confirmation, again, from our precious Saviour that He was there in our midst![Emphasis added]

 width=Angus Buchan said, again?   I’ll get back that that one in a moment. Anyhow Angus Buchan says, ‘Awesome confirmation’ – actually no Angus, for Jesus says,

2 Thessalonians 2:9  “…the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders…

So we can clearly see that a sign is not confirmation that it comes from God for Satan can make a heart shaped cloud as well.

How do we then tell ‘who’ made the sign appear.

Well we need to examine the words of the man Angus Buchan to see if what he says lines up with the Word of God – if it contradicts, then we know that the sign was not from God – for God will never give a sign to endorse words spoken that contradict His Word.  Angus Buchan says something interesting though, in one of his newsletters he says;  “May the Lord bless you as you continue to walk by faith and not by sight.” [5] (Emphasis added)

So why did you say what you said above Angus, that the sign in the sky was an ‘awesome confirmation’ when we walk by faith and not by sight? Is it because this is actually what you believe: signs and wonders?

But that was not the first sign, (hence the ‘again’ in Angus Buchan ‘s comment above) another one appeared over the Mighty Men Conference in April 2007…here is what Angus Says, “

 width=“I was recently sent a photograph taken at the Mighty Men Conference that we held at Shalom in April 2007, which shows a white light coming down out of a dark sky, descending upon and spreading out over the tent. I can only describe it as looking like hot butter melting and spreading over the tent.

I have not yet personally met Bruno, the man who took the photograph; he comes from Phalaborwa, a town in the northern part of South Africa. He wept when he first saw the photograph and he was reluctant to send it to me because he wasn’t sure what my reaction would be. I choose to believe it was the Glory of God over the tent, which was full to capacity., numbering seven thousand men. We had been speaking about the Light of God, about the Glory of God’s presence at that time”– Angus Buchan [10] (Emphasis added)

That’s odd; the man in Phalaborwa was reluctant to send him the photo because he was not sure what Angus Buchan ‘s reaction would be? What was this man worried about? What was he expecting Angus Buchan to say;  ‘Do not follow signs and wonders for they do not validate my ministry, for the Word of God spoken in truth is what validates that what I am preaching is of God?’  Nope! When Angus Buchan does see the photo, “he chooses to believe” it was the Glory of God over the tent for they had been speaking about the ‘Light of God’. Wow! He chooses to believe? No testing the spirits as per 1 John, just believe. So again Angus Buchan comment above that says “May the Lord bless you as you continue to walk by faith and not by sight contradicts what Angus Buchan actually believes. He expects signs and wonders to follow him where ever he goes and will never denounce them. And by printing this in his book, ‘A Mustard Seed – A Daily Devotional’, he is telling you just that, that we need to trust him, because signs and wonders accompany his teachings, therefore he is a ‘man of God’.

Dominionism / Kingdom Now theology

As per above, AngusBuchan speaks of revivalin the last days, where the Word of God says the opposite. Who do we believe? The lie of revival in the last days that will lead millions astray to false doctrine, or the Word of God that says you must hold fast to His Word and the Truth pray because things are going to get bad, really bad in the end times. And the only hope we have is to rely on Him no matter how bad it gets.

The faith that Angus Buchan speaks of is an ear tickling faith of Dominionism or Kingdom Now theology – “take South Africa back for God so that Christ can return to a world that eagerly awaits Him.”  Angus Buchan doctrine states that, God wants you to be happy, He wants you to be healthy, He wants you to prosper, He wants you to have a wonderful future.  Nope, I’m sorry Angus; God never promised us any of this.

Jesus said in Matthew 10:22  “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” and

2 Timothy 3:12 “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.” and

John 16:33 ” These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. “

Being hated does not bring happiness or prosperity or allow us to take dominion of the world in preparation for Christs’s return.  What happiness does God promise us? That we will have peace and be of good cheer because we are saved by the blood of the Lamb and Jesus Christ gives us the strength, Jesus gives us the strength to carry on while we live in a world of evil, no matter if we end up in jail for preaching the Gospel or being martyred because we refuse to follow another god.

Angus Buchan says,  “However, things are getting so critical now, that everything else seems to be fading into insignificance when it come to talking about eternal issues, things like a man’s soul, his family, his marriage, his business and his future, not to mention his nation” [1]

Since when does family, marriage, your business, your future (while you are still alive) and this nation fall into the same critical category of individual salvation? When you die you can’t take your family, business or your money and your country you live and love so much in with you – it’s gone!

Angus Buchan says, “I would really encourage you to continue to let your expectation for your life, for your family, for your country, for your vision, to come only from God.” [4]

Confused Faith

Faith is not what God can do for you, but what you can do for Him! It’s about preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ.  Your salvation and the salvation of those around you is the only thing on this earth we need to worry about! real repentance of sin, accepting Jesus Christ as your Saviour that He died on the cross and shed His Blood so that you may be saved, the baptism of the Holy Spirit (and that does not mean speaking in tongues or having someone lay hands on you to receive the Holy Spirit), striving to live a holy life through the conviction of sin in your life by the Holy Spirit that when you do sin you repent.

Angus Buchan says, ” It is only the faithful that will overcome Rom.1:17 ‘The just (righteous) will live by faith’. As we see trouble brewing up in every area, politically, financially, morally, we know that we will succeed as the children of promise. [5]  (Emphasis added)

Hebrew Roots Movement: 

Another error;  They attribute promises to Israel to the church. The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church. The only promise we have as spiritual children of Abraham is that of salvation (Galatians 3:11).  Angus Buchan’s ministry is called Shalom Ministries and has a Tabernacle on his premises

“…We will be staging it open air because we are concerned about the seating capacity in the tabernacle [at Shalom Ministries]” [5]

Angus Buchan has an infatuation with Israel, like all Pentecostal/Charismatics/New Apostolic’s do. And once again the faith he preaches is in order to ‘get something’: success politically, financially, morally etc   [Note: Dominionist’s like to substitute the word ‘morals’ with ‘Kingdom Values’]

A few months ago I bought a book by C. Peter Wagner called, “Dominion! How Kingdom Action Can Change the World”.  He says;

“Christians understand that their Kingdom values should penetrate all spheres of their personal lives, their families, their businesses, their political lives and the rest” [9]  (Emphasis added)

Sound familiar to what Angus Buchan says?   Hmmm, familiar is not really the word, more like identical.  These spheres are actually called the 7 Mountains of culture by the New Apostolic Reformation.  These 7 mountains are the areas of the world they need to take control of in order to rule the world:  business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, the family and religion.

As per C. Peter Wagner and his agents:  Rick Joyner, John Arnott,  Cindy Jacob’s, etc., they are trying to build an army of Christians (taken from a horrendous misinterpretation of Joel 2 – also called Joel’s army) who are going to take the earth back for Christ. Now most of these preachers in America who follow this idea of thinking, stem from The Vineyard Christian Fellowship who started the Toronto Blessing etc, and then came Lakeland with Todd Bentley.

Dominionism and the Roman Catholic Church

I have read a lot of South African websites that seem to preach the idea of this generation being something special and promote the raising up of army of Christians that will be mighty for God (based on Joel 2) – The youth are their greatest focus for they are the least discerning.  And parents are just happy to know their kids are going to church, but don’t realise they are being indoctrinated into a very unbiblical and scary doctrine of Dominionism.

When I email the owners/pastors of these sites to find out if they believe in Kingdom Now teaching or Restoration teaching most of them say no, some of them say “not all”, that they don’t like those American preachers because most of them are heretical nuts and money grabbers but when questioned most allude to this: they say they have received a vision or prophecy from ‘God’ or someone that prophesied dover them that says the same thing that the heretical nuts and money grabbers are saying. Now we have to ask, what’s wrong with this picture? How can people who proclaim to be true Christians get visions/prophecies that are exactly the same as the people who proclaim New Age teachings?

So I need to pose this question to Angus, why are you promoting Revival based on Latter Rain / Dominionist / Kingdom Now Theology that people who delve into occult teachings have had visions of too, and are trying to do the exact same thing you are? Better yet, why are you teaching a doctrine that falls in line with the plan of the Roman Catholic Church – they too are currently taking dominion of the earth, bringing all Christian denominations under the wings of the RCC mother church in expectation of the returning Christ.  They call themselves Christians and you do too, so who do we believe to be correct? Difficult question to answer Angus, since you both believe the exact same thing!

After doing a bit more research with regards to some of the other ministers who accompany Angus Buchan on some of his conferences I found the name Bennie Mostert. In March this year Angus Buchan and Bennie Mostert and a few others held a conference called the Daniel Conference at the NG Church in Morelatapark in Pretoria:

“Die Daniêlkonferensie vind plaas van 14 tot 16 Maart 2008 by NG Gemeente Moreletapark se Woodlandssentrum in Pretoria. Die sprekers is Angus Buchan, drs. Johan Smith en Bennie Mostert en di. Elza Meyer en Willem Badenhorst.” [11]   [Emphasis added]

So who is Bennie Mostert? And why I am bothering to mention his name? Well, because he confirms that Angus Buchan follows Dominionist teachings and has ties to either C. Peter Wagner and his associates.

The roll of NUPSA in South Africa

by Prof Johan Malan

“An organization promoting the cause of this strange spiritual warfare in South Africa is NUPSA- Network For United Prayer in Southern Africa, with Dr. Bennie Mostert as chairman. He is a supporter of Peter Wagner’s spiritual warfare methods, promotes Wagner’s books and is affiliated to Wagner’s World Prayer Centre. He also has great admiration for George Otis and his Transformations video.

NUPSA has also become involved with the teachings of the ministry of Cleansing Stream. This comprises the new approach of spiritual warfare, but predominantly on a personal level. The principles are the same – the blame for problems are shifted from an individual to the devil and his demons that must consequently be exorcised – even from Christians! Spiritual problems are therefore not traced back to the flesh (the old sinful nature) with its passions and desires, but transferred to the devil and his demons.

Cleansing Stream found its way from America to us. Among the leading people in this ministry is Jack Hayford and Dr. Scott Bauer from The Church on the Way, and Joy Dawson of YWAM. It is claimed that the Lord will clean his church with wonders of healing and deliverance that will destroy the works of the devil. The view of Cleansing Stream is that salvation is not enough to cleanse people from demonic bindings and that other steps are required for full deliverance. They base this theory on the threefold nature of man –  spirit, soul and body. According to them, only your spirit is made free at salvation; consequently demons may still hide themselves in your soul or body. You are then in need of spiritual warfare for full deliverance. According to them, you may also inherit demonic bonds, or curses, from your ancestors.

Of course, people helped by this ministry give wonderful testimonies. This is however not a valid argument to justify their ministry biblically. There are people making the same claims with regard to the blessings allegedly received from participation in the Toronto phenomenon or the Alpha course. In 2 Thessalonians 2:11 we read: “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” That is indeed the case.

Lesson nr. 9 from Cleansing Stream teaches intercessory warfare. This includes the discovery and identification of demons with the aid of “power encounters and spiritual mapping techniques, followed by exorcising them from the people (including Christians), buildings, and even whole cities and nations.” If this technique is so efficient, why does it need to be done repeatedly?

This ministry also promotes Word of Faith teachings by suggesting that there is power in our words: “Power is released through our tongue… every word that comes from my mouth is either a blessing or a curse.” Under the heading “Words” they say:” We can learn how the mouth of the prophet [that’s you] delivers him or herself.” This is a self-redemption teaching.

NUPSA uses the error of Cleansing Stream for their approach to small groups. They are working on national strategies for the spiritual cleansing of the country and to organize worship-marches to neighbouring countries.” [12]

When I attended the Absa Stadium in 2008 when Angus Buchan spoke I managed to speak to some of the spiritual warfare intercessors that were there.  They told me that before Angus Buchan or anyone else for that matter could speak they needed to cleanse the area of all demonic forces so that Angus ‘smessage would be well received by the audience and not be hindered by demonic entities blocking his message.  They said they walked around the stadium 8 times and did some other mumbo jumbo to ward off evil.   This is totally unscriptural.  No where in the bible did the Disciples run off and prepare the place for Jesus Christ to go and speak at with spiritual warfare.  Please, would someone find me a verse in the bible where the disciples walked around the grounds 8 times waving their little Jesus flags and packaged soil into a bag to spiritually ‘lay claim to the ground and make it holy’.  This is occult people.

New Apostolic Reformation

C. Peter Wagner commissioned Todd Bentley (proven false prophet and heretic) and supported him wholeheartedly during the Lakeland Revival. Todd Bentley who ran the Lakeland Revival (Fresh Fire Ministries) in Florida from April to July 2008 was raised up by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) who consists of (amongst others): C. Peter Wagner, Rick Joyner (a confessed Knight of Malta Templar aka Freemason), Patricia King, Bob Jones, Paul Cain, Che Ahn, Lou Engle, Bill Johnson, Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Rodney Howard-Browne (founder of holy laughter movement), Kim Clement, Wendy and Rory Alec (owners of God TV), Jan and Jan (Trinity Broadcasting Network, TBN) , John Arnott, John Wimber, and pretty much everyone who thinks the Elijah List and it’s owner Steve Shultz are promoting biblical teachings when in fact they are nothing more than occultists/New Ager’s disguised as Christians.

Todd Bentley has been proved false over and over and over again, and exposed for being a liar, false prophet and charlatan – he departed from Lakeland shortly after being exposed by ABC nightline in July 2008 for running a money making racket also known as a healing ministry, except there were no genuine healings. Yet even after all this, C. Peter Wagner got on stage with Todd Bentley and a host of other liars and commissioned him by prophesying and decreeing over him verses in the bible that were meant for Jesus Christ only. The blasphemy that has taken place by the hands of these people is beyond comprehension, but still they preach and teach away to the undiscerning millions upon millions of people who are falling for it – are you one of them?

Winds in all directions

One of the biggest catch phrases (at the moment) of those who promote this diabolical teaching is, ‘Winds of Change/New Beginnings/New Wineskin’. They believe that God is moving in a new way, a new direction, change is coming, there is a new wine skin and that there are ‘winds of change’ blowing over the world,  i.e., revival.

“The winds of the Holy Spirit are coming, the winds of the Kingdom of God are coming, and the winds of change are coming to cities and nations around the world.” ….

“This is the day of outpouring, this is the day of revival, and this is the beginning days of revival and revivals. This revival is a fountainhead of revivals, is revival that prepares the way for other revivals to follow. This revival is a foundation of other revivals that come, the day has come that we will go from glory to glory, revival to revival and there will never be a moment without revival.”

“This is revival of divine healing, a revival of signs and wonders; this is a revival of anointing, and this is a revival of the power of God.”

“Restoration of signs and wonders has begun; the church will be covered with signs and wonders. This is a revival of anointing that church will be covered with rivers of the anointing. This revival is a restoration of revival!”

“What will follow this revival will be holiness and unity. Holiness will come by grace and of the heart, and unity of love, and unity of relationship will come.” [13] (Emphasis added)

[Note:  UnityALL religions/faiths uniting, joining hands under a false Christ – Unity in Diversity]

This is what Angus Buchan has to say in his 7 July Newsletter:

“Lord Jesus, how can we not believe in You? How can we doubt that you have caused winds of revival and repentance to blow over the whole of our country?” (Emphasis added)

The message preached today is all about what God can do for you, your family, your business, your nation, your health etc. It’s a direct attack on the true gospel of Jesus Christ. The sermons of old, most find unacceptable now-a-days because the ‘hell fire and brimstone’ sermons are just so not cool anymore, and we really don’t want to hear about the sin in our lives.  No we prefer the sermon where we only hear good, happy, positive things being preached, none of this negative stuff.  God will look after you and bless your little heart till it’s content no matter how sinful you are – and the crowd goes wild – AMENNNNNN they shout out.

Well I am sorry people, SIN is what drives a big thick wedge between you and God.  And the more you sin the wider the gap gets, and Satan rejoices. And I am not even talking about unbelievers here, I am taking about Christians. And if you don’t truly repent of your own individual sin through Jesus Christ, by getting on your knees in the privacy of your own bedroom then yes the day will come when you will find yourself standing before God and He says, ‘I don’t know you’!  (Matthew 7:22) .  We don’t like to hear this because it offends our minds and hearts, so we rather pack our pick nick baskets and go listen to someone who will tell us happy, pleasant things like how we can make our business more successful, our home life better just by having ‘faith and hope’ and if you have enough faith God will reward you with pleasantries in this life: health and wealth, and oh yes – you will take dominion of South Africa, make it a Christian country – all denominations in unity.

Hope and Faith

Oddly enough you can get similar results in your business or you home by attending motivational speaking conferences hosted by unbelievers. They speak of hope and faith too, either with the mention of a god (whichever one you follow) or they don’t mention one at all. When you walk out there you feel like you too can go climb Mt. Everest, anything seems possible. It’s called psychology and Angus Buchan  knows how to talk the talk, just like Joyce Meyer. Its psychology mixed with Biblical scripture or as I call it, ‘Biblical psychology’ also known as a load of hogwash that detracts one from the truth of the Bible.

Angus Buchan seems to have this thing for group repentance and repenting on behalf of others at his gatherings where it’s more of an emotional extravaganza than anything else. Being in the presence of thousands of people is very emotional and leads one to a false sense of faith, hope and repentance.  “Everyone close your eyes, lift your hands and say after me…”  is NOT true repentance. I was going to quote quite a few more of his ‘group repentance’ comments, but Shalom Ministries has update their website to a new website and 90% of what I have quoted above and what I was going to use has been removed, never the less the quote below is on his new website – you will have to create a login account to see it:

“I was so excited to see close on 100 first time commitments and literally the whole crowd repented before God and made a re commitment to Jesus.” [15] [Emphasis added]

UPDATED 2016: On Gateway news it talks of Sacred Assembly – a historic gathering of 50 000 Christians at the FNB Stadium, Soweto, November 19 2016 where Angus Buchan attended, it says regarding repentance, “We respect the government, because God put them in place, but we have come here to intercede and repent on behalf of the country, which is no longer walking in God’s ways.” (Emphasis added)

How on earth can you repent of someone else’s sin? One of the biggest concerns for me and many others is the ‘argument’ that is going around that, ‘many people, thousands of people are coming to Jesus because of Angus ‘s teachings – therefore what he is preaching is of God.”  The same argument was used for Todd Bentley’s revivals as well, that many were being ‘saved’ in Lakeland – yet the message Todd preached was laced in occult teaching about angels, portals, opening gates, opening the heavens, glory, false prophecies, etc. It’s all about the fruit I am told, if the fruit appears to look good then surely it must be good. Wrong.

Jesus said, in Matthew 7:16-20   16You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 “So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 “So then, you will know them by their fruits.”

It also says in Matthew 3:8  Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance…”

In other words, if the message preached by Angus Buchan or another other preacher contradicts the Word of God then the fruit that follows, the signs and wonders that follow can notbe from God – the fruit that is produced is bad fruit from a thorn tree. Looks good on the outside but rotten in the inside.  The same applies to those supposedly saved at these revivals. If the message preached is one that will lead you to accept a false Christ though Christian unity no matter what your faith, then by who’s name are these people being saved? It’s certainly not the true Jesus Christ of the Bible. It’s a false salvation.  And might I add that yes some people will find genuine salvation at these meetings for they seek the truth, that is Jesus Christ, their hearts are genuinely in the right place and when they repent of their sins they actually mean it ad they go home and change their ways.  And you will find when the they are born again the Holy Spirit will open their eyes to the false teaching that surrounds them.   But 95% of people will just follow, follow anything that sounds good, they will follow the false Christ that is presented to them for they do not care for the truth – their hearts are not really seeking Jesus Christ the Son of God, they seek worldly happiness and worldly wealth instead. They will go home and appear to be a changed man for few months to a year maybe more and then back to their old self they return.

Christian Unity

It’s all about Christian unity. Unite as Christians (no matter what you believe; be it Roman Catholic, Anglican, Latter Day Saints or Church of God (a branch off sect from 7th Day Adventists or even a Spiritualist) – (see 2nd snapshot below, then see last ‘church’ on the list). Just have faith and hope and ‘God’ will do wonderful things in this country and the rest of the world. You can witness the Christian unity first hand on Angus Buchan’s new website by going to sign up; there is a drop down list of churches of which you need to pick the one you belong too. The list is enormous. I have made snapshots of the drop down list so that it is cast in stone for all too see.

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SNAPSHOT 1 

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Click here to see all the ‘Church’s’ one can select on Angus’ list. (Spiritualists, Mormons (Latter Day Saints) and British/Anglo Israelites for example are included in the list)

Unity in Diversity

So as we can see, it does not matter what church you attend, what unscriptural doctrine your church follows, just as long as we all unite under the ‘Christ’ that is being presented to the world today. The Roman Catholics call it the Eucharist Christ and they have an ‘Evangelization program’ that TBN has bought into lock, stock and barrel – In fact TBN is Roman Catholic.  New Agers are awaiting their ‘Christ’ and are accepting the so called Christian revivals with open arms for it aligns to their beliefs as well. Buddhists await their ‘Christ’ and there is an astounding number of Christian Buddhists who have even been baptised in Christ’s name. Muslims are awaiting their ‘Christ’ too as more and more Muslims accept Roman Catholicism because the Virgin Mary is mentioned no less than 36 times in the Koran.  Muslims revere Mary.  Hindu’s await their ‘Christ’ as well, and we all know that Hindu’s will worship just about anything that comes in the form of a statue which includes the Mary The Blessed Mother of God.

These people I mentioned above (C Peter Wagner, John Wimber, et al.) belong to the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and so does Angus Buchan. The New Apostolic Reformation is also a part of an Ecumenical (or Emergent Church)  message that is New Age. – The NAR are just more sneakier and use terminology that is less Ecumenical. But there are Ecumenical tell tale signs within the Angus Buchan  camp, as you will see below.

Angus Buchan recently went to Ireland and preached to Protestants and Roman Catholics:

“This Sunday I will be in Durban and next week I go to Belfast, Northern Ireland to preach to the Protestants and the Roman Catholics and the whosoevers.” [3]

“We saw many healings, salvations and re-commitments and a stirring in the hearts of the Irish people.” … [16]

“At our meetings we had Catholics and Protestants together, surrendering their lives to Jesus Christ. It was a wonderful time of reconciliation.” [16]    (Emphasis added)

Re-commitments? To what? How can a Roman Catholic re-commit to Jesus Christ? I am sure the Pope is jumping with joy at this – a reconciliation of all faiths to one Christ. So we now have Protestants and Catholics accepting a false Christ or re-committing to their false Christ, going back to their respective churches, never denouncing their heretical beliefs that go against the Word of God and repenting and thinking themselves ‘saved’. Great, I feel so much more at ease now.

Everything is ’emerging’:  Roman Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, Islam and Christians

God TV and TBN:

Angus Buchan  is promoted heavily by God TV and TBN- the two biggest promoters of false prophets, liars, charlatans and blasphemers on this earth. Wendy Alec owner of God TV prophesied that Jesus was going to physically show up on Todd Bentley’s stage on the 8th June 2008 – of course this never happened. (click here for false prophecy by Wendy Alec, God TV amongst other things). And Paul Crouch and his wife Jan share an ecumenical bed with the Pope.  There are hundreds of books on the TBN online bookstore that promote Roman Catholicism, Mary the Queen of Heaven, Rosaries, the Eucharist Christ, etc.

“The GOD TV channel will be broadcasting the event LIVE to all their viewers throughout the world, starting from 2.30pm SA time. They tell me that they have access to a viewership of approximately 500 million people (amazing)!” (Emphasis added)

“I’m also on TV, recorded each week here on the farm and then broadcast every week on TBN, CTV and the Rhema Channel.” (Emphasis added)

Angus Buchan and his Healing Ministry:

“On Sunday, we had a healing service at Shalom …” 2nd July 2008. [15]

Angus Buchan  then spearheads this notion of signs and wonders accompanying him even further when again he writes in his book, ‘Jesus…a Farmer…and Miracles’:

“And they went out and preached everywhere the Lord working with them and confirming the Word through the accompanying signs. Amen. Mark 16. v20. People knew that Jesus was God because of the miralces [sic] He performed. However, that was not His motive for healing the sick or setting the captives free. Jesus had “compassion” for the sick and the hurting. So much so that He wept at the tomb of Lazarus when He saw the family grieving. Anyone desiring to be used by our Lord for Divine Healing must have a heart for those who suffer because Jesus uses hearts and hands and compassion to heal the sick. Mark 16 v20. [10] (Emphasis added)

So all you need is compassion and a desire to be used by the Lord….hmmm, does not matter if what you preach contradicts the Bible.

This quote above is not the first time I have heard Angus Buchan  speaking about his healing ministry.

The problem with Angus Buchan’shealing ministry etc, is that these signs were only given to the Apostles. Those who had the great task of taking the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the nations, the power given to them was to confirm the message they had to deliver. They then wrote the message down, which became the Word of God to us, God’s final Word to us – with no one adding to it and no one taking away from it. These men were given great power for they had the most difficult task ahead of them – they were imprisoned, beaten, tortured and martyred in the most dreadful of ways.  Does that mean healing and miracles don’t happen any more?  Of course not.  Go to Jesus Christ directly in prayer and if it’s His will you will be healed.  God to Jesus Christ directly in prayer to be delivered from smoking, alcoholism etc.   Go to Jesus Christ directly in prayer with all your problems.  We go to Jesus Christ directly in prayer!  So many people believe that they don’t have enough faith to be healed so they need to go find a middle man (the faith healer) who has oodles of faith and that will surely bring on a healing from God.  No, my dear friends, it doesn’t work like this.

“The new message delivered by the Apostles was confirmed by these signs. Once the message was written down, the signs ceased to be the confirming agent and the Bible confirms itself.” [17]

Satan’s greatest lie is to convince you that the ‘gift of healing to a selected person’ still plays a major role in the church today, this is not true.

Does God heal? Of course He does!  But not at the hands of a man who claims he has a ‘gift of healing’ or healings form part of his ministry. I know personally and have heard of people who were truly healed by God – they approached Jesus Christ in personal prayer and God chose to heal them.  And yes people can pray for you to be healed but that does not mean God will heal you. It is God who makes the final decision in the end. He has His reasons for everything He does.

Ultimately ones salvation is more important that being healed. Are you so willing to take a chance on your spiritual life by going to a man who supposedly heals people in Jesus’ name just for the sake of not being ill while still on earth? I hope not.

IMPORTANT TO NOTE:  The bible tells you to not allow people to lay hands on you.  Demons are transferred from one person to another very easily in this manner.

1 Timothy 5:22  “Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.”

Jesus Christ of the Bible and the Christ of the New Age

Please read and understand this verse, many people just read it, but never grasp what is actually being said – it’s like water on a ducks back to most.

Matthew 7:21-23  21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?‘ 23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

Just because someone uses the name of Jesus and perform miracles does not mean he is of God – quite the contrary.

Prosperity:

Lastly before I end, I want to talk about prosperity. Many Christians follow the Pentecostal/Word of Faith/Apostolic Prophetic etc., movement that has over taken our churches and ultimately led us to where we are today – mass apostasy.   All will agree that God wants to prosper us and will use the Bible and pull out verses to try back up their claims. I am going to now show you who this earth and its glory (riches) belongs too.  Our riches are with Jesus in Heaven; in receiving eternal life, for those who accept Him as the Son of God and believe.  Yes God does look after His children, He gives us what we NEED and some Christians are wealth, however our riches are not on this earth.

Luke 4:5-8  5 And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours. 8 Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'”

Satan who is god of this world owns all the wealth of this world, you wan’t wealth you get it from him.  Be careful what you ask for, Satan can’t wait to help you out with all the riches in the world.

Faith like Potatoes, the book and movie:

I had actually watched the video about +/- 4 years ago at a company I worked for. We were made to watch it as part of a team building exercise. Funnily enough, everyone found the movie inspirational;  from those interested in New Age Spiritualism, Hindus, right down to the last Muslim were emotionally affected by the movie – yet no one got saved.

We had a discussion afterwards on how to take the ‘principles’ given in this movie and apply them to our lives and our workplace, no mention of Jesus Christ and repentance of sin, just ‘learn and apply’, it was all about living a ‘good life’ and ‘accepting’ everyone around you no matter what they believed.  I was so unimpressed with the movie that I actually forgot all about it, until years later I received an email on the Mighty Men Conference that mentioned Angus Buchan. I thought, “Who is this man, and why does ‘Faith like Potatoes’ sound so familiar?” I let the photo’s of the filled stadiums overtake my logic; as I said above, I really wanted to believe he was the real deal. But through intensive research it is clear that all is not what it appears to be.

Quotes below taken from here by Shaun Willcock (biblebasedministries.co.uk). I encourage you to go read the full article by Shaun.

“In September 2006 a new religious movie premiered in South Africa, called Faith Like Potatoes.I say a religious movie rather than a Christian movie, because although it claims to be based on the life story of South African farmer and Charismatic evangelist Angus Buchan, it is not a biblically sound Christian film.”  

“According to one reviewer, “The film depicts some incredible miracles that God accomplishes through and around Angus. Perhaps, the most awe-inspiring part of the film is the point when, through the prayer of Angus Buchan, God raises to life a farm worker who had been struck dead by lightning” (Africa Christian Action film review).”   (Emphasis added)

[Note:  Todd Bentley claimed 32 people raised from the dead during the Lakeland Outpouring, unfortunately for him every one of these claims was proven false, and not one person came forward to help him verify his claims.  Yet he continued to lie to the millions of people following him, telling them it was true. They believed his every word; Todd could not put a foot wrong with those who desperately wanted to experience God.]

Quotes continued from biblebasedministries.co.uk:

“…Frank Rautenbach, the actor who plays the part of Angus Buchan and who had previously starred in a South African soap opera, said: “It was of paramount importance to me that we should make a real movie and not a “religious” one…. the most attractive thing to me about this role was the message of hope that the movie brings. Hope in spite of the difficulties of life.

“A truly Christian movie would not simply bring a “message of hope”. It would uncompromisingly bring the message of hope in Christ!”

“When the movie premiered in South Africa, it was reported that it did so to a ‘star-studded line-up’, the  who’s who of South African actors, movie-makers, entertainers, sports people, Christian leaders, and musicians.” Just one question arises here: Why? Why was this important to the movie’s producers? Why was it relevant at all? This is merely following the ways of the world, playing to the gallery, glorying in the world of showbiz.” (Emphasis added)

Mark 13:12-13;  “12 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. 13 “You will be hated by ALL because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

These words above are Jesus’ words. The real Jesus Christ that you barely hear preached today is hated, the counterfeit Jesus preached today…everyone loves. This is why ‘faith like potatoes’ is nota Christian movie, because everyone finds it acceptable!!!

New Apostolic Reformation…and it’s obsession with the Hebrew Calendar and Numbers (part of the Hebrew Roots Movement)

Taken from here – Die Erdekruik/The Vessel newspaper

“Die Erdekruik/The Vessel newspaper believes with thousands of others, that the year 2008 (the number ‘8’ has the significance of New Beginnings in the Bible) is a turning point for South Africa. With Angus Buchan, we proclaim in the Name of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, that there is hope for our country.” (Emphasis added)

[Update:  Die Erdekruik/The Vessel newspaper printed the 2 page newspaper at the Absa 2008 gathering in which Kobus Van Rensburg received quite a bit of advertising space.]

Taken here from the Elijah List – a prophecy by C. Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs, and many others: Word of the Lord for 2008 and Beyond

“2008: The Year to Possess the Gates…This year the Holy Spirit keyed off of the number “8” to us. The number 8 represents new beginnings. God wants us to go through new doors (or gates) to go to a new level in everything we do. The Lord cautioned us that while many want to experience the new wine (i.e., new moves of God), there are some who want to “wear their old robes,” or that which is comfortable to them, into this new season of time. This will not work. It is critical that we all are willing to give up old practices, structures, and the influence of relationships that tie us to the old if they refuse to allow us to move into the new things.” (Emphasis added)

[Note: These people that C. Peter Wagner is referring too, who wear old robes and refuse to give up old practices, are those who hold onto scripture for dear life and refuse to follow their New Age Spiritual utterances.]

So once again we have South Africans speaking the same message that false prophets like C. Peter Wagner and his diabolical agents Rick Joyner et al. are promoting…how is this possible?  Because it’s not biblical!

I truly pray that after reading this article, that the Holy Spirit is speaking to you and your eyes are opened as to what is going on in South Africa and the deception that has risen is not something to be taken lightly.  This has been planned I believe…planned by the New Apostolic Reformation, through visions and prophecy given by none other than Satan himself. Why do I say so? Here is why…

 “There is great prophetic interest in South Africa and its southern coastline from international circles. The major reason for this is because of the many prophecies that have gone out about the latter rain move of God that is to erupt from South Africa and spread into the nations.

The well-known prophet, Rick Joyner, visited Cape Town, South Africa in July 2004, and during a powerful prophetic conference on 22 July 2004, said that God is about to reveal powerful hidden ministries that are centered along the southern coastline of South Africa.[Emphasis added]  –link no longer on internet

Angus Buchan’s ministry fits their prophecy perfectly, however Angus Buchan  is notthe only one, he is only the start of what is yet to come. He is just a puppet on a string.

Conclusion

We are truly in the LAST DAYS. Watch and Pray! Be on Guard at all times, adhere to the Word of God at all times – question, test and weight all things to the Word of God before you deem it to be correct. Do not be swindled into accepting things just because we need to believe by faith and accept every message that comes our way no matter how Biblical it may seem – test it first! And remember experience and emotions do not validate that what is spoken or what manifests (signs and wonders) are from God.

The number of Wolves out number the Sheep.

While I am at it here is the correct interpretation of 2 Chronicles 7:14 seeing as though this is the verse so miss-used by these people to do nothing but deceive.

2 Chronicles 7:14  “14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

This verse is for Israel and Israel only. If they humbled themselves and sought after God through prayer, longing for Him and repenting of their wicked ways, God would forgive them of their sin and heal their land.   However!  Every verse in the Bible applies to every individual person who has a personal spiritual relationship with God through Jesus Christ His Son and the conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit which leads to repentance of sin in our own lives – of which repentance is an ongoing part of one’s relationship with Jesus.

You do not repent on behalf of others lives, or your next door neighbor, the government, or an entire nation for that matter.  The ‘heal their land’ in this verse means that if you personally seeks after God, humble yourself, genuinely repent of your sin (wicked ways) and actually change your ways;  God will hear you, forgive you and He will save you, and bring you back into a relationship with Him.   As for “physical land” – this applies to ancient and modern day Israel only.

For God to heal an entire nation in this day and age because a few thousand people got together and repented on behalf of others in this country is ludicrous to say the least. The Bible clearly states that in the last days everyone will follow a false Christ and turn away from genuine teaching. And it’s happening right before your own eyes..  It also clearly states that when the world seeks peace and reconciliation, it’s all a lie.  It’s a false peace and false reconciliation to a false Christ.  The Bible says:

1 Thessalonians 5:2-4 2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.  3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.  4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief;

So when the world cries for peace and unity and being one global community, so then starts the beginnings of the coming of the Tribulation.  It will overcome those who are unbelievers, who refuse the truth.  But the brethren (those who are truly born again) can see what is clearly taking place for they love the truth of God’s Word and we will notbe surprised when the lies of world peace and the lies of the anti-Christ turns into death and destruction.  I am not one bit surprised right now and I know that many other genuine Christians out there are not one bit surprised either, and we can’t be silent and need to warn with long-suffering.

But the message for us (the true Body of Christ) in God’s Word is too not worry, too not fear, for He will look after us – Jesus is coming to Rapture His bride before the Tribulation starts.  He also tells us to watch and pray and be prepared spiritually at all times.  And being prepared does not mean growing organic food, or climbing to the tops of mountains to seek spiritual refuge.


Updated: 

  • 28 August 2008
  • 9 May 2009:  Absa Stadium, Mighty Men Conference 2009, Image of Mustard Seed – A Daily Devotional book
  • 28 May 2009:  Correction in formatting and typo’s plus extra Biblical verses with explanations.
  • 9 April 2010:  Link added to list of ‘denominations’ one can select on Shalom Ministries website.
  • 30 April 2010:  Heading “A strange comment by Angus Buchan on his website” should have said “A strange verse by Angus on his website”  with explanation.
  • 19 August 2012 –  NAR Invasion of SA – Rick Joyner, Angus Buchan, Danie Slabbert, Nevil Norden @ Apostolic Prophetic Conference – July 2012
  • 18 December 2016 – added new quote from Gateway magazine regarding praying for others sins.

References:

  • [Please note that [1-8] do no longer work as Shalom Trust Ministries website was revamped and most of the newsletters posted by Angus Buchan have been removed]
  • [10-11] url removed from the internet
  • [13-17] url removed from the internet
  • [9] C. Peter Wager – Dominion! How Kingdom Action Can Change the World, 2008. pg 16.
  • [12] http://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engarticles/Transformations.htm
  • [13] http://watchmenview.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html
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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Robbie

Ek read the one with the BIG letters Debs. I am careful for the fine print…. he he he

(KJV-1611) Repent yee therefore, and bee conuerted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shal come from the presence of the Lord.

(KJVA) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Robbie

Harry –

‘Every answer you have they will find a scripture to shoot you down’

Sorry mate, that is the only weapon we have… Scripture… not ourselves and our man-made armour.

Amanda

No, BOD. I will not agree to disagree. You are wrong. You said:

You’ve demonstrated strict conformity to a narrow legalistic definition of the gospel.

First of all, Gospel is not Law. The Gospel is what sets us free from the Law. Keep the two separate. Secondly, my ‘narrow legalistic definition’ of the Gospel is not my own, but it is how the Word of God defines it. 1Co 15:1-5. If you do not like it, your argument is with the Word and not with me.

So any gospel that falls outside of your legal definition is portrayed as basically being of satan. Sounds familiar?

Yes, it does:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-9)

It comes across as a Pharisee like defense of OT law.

By the way, Jesus Christ did not condemn the Pharisees for their defense of the Law.

Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, What you would have gained from me is given to God, he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'” (Mat 15:1-9)

Repentance is not unique to Christianity. From How do Muslims repent to God?

You repent to God (Allah) through:

* Admitting the sin you committed,
* intending not to commit the sin again,
* requesting Allah to forgive you, and
* to return the rights to others who are affected by the sin and asking for their forgiveness, if any.

Repentance is not the Gospel. Repentance is the response when the Law is preached lawfully “so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God.”
(Rom 3:19) If the Law is preached properly, then you know that you are dead. Dead, not okay, so sorry and I’ll try harder in future. You are dead and in need of a Savior. If repentance were the Gospel, then why was Jesus Christ hanging dead on the cross?

BOD, here is an extract from A Listener’s Guide to the Pulpit

The Law tells us what God requires and what God forbids. The Law shows us that we have not done what God requires and have done what God forbids. The Law’s demands are perfect, and the Law requires perfect obedience in thought, word and deed. The Law says, “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind… You shall love your neighbor as yourself” [4] The Law calls anything short of perfect obedience sin.

The Gospel tells us what God has done to save sinners. The Gospel shows us that Jesus has done everything the Law requires for us. The Gospel answers the perfect demands of the Law with the perfect, sinless obedience of Jesus. The Gospel says, “What the Law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us.”[5] The Gospel answers the accusations of the Law with the life, death and resurrection of Jesus for us. There are no demands in the good news of the Gospel. There is only the free gift of God’s grace.

In Scripture we see this basic division of Law and Gospel in the summary of Jesus’ first public preaching: “Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. ‘The time has come,’ he said. ”The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news! [6] It is also the basic outline of the Apostle’s preaching. [7]

The difference between a good sermon and a bad sermon is whether or not it rightly divides Law and Gospel. A good sermon must show sinners their sin, and show sinners their Savior.

Read the article and then we can talk about Oom Angus’ sermons.

Amanda

Valerie

When you believe that Christ is who He said He was and believe that it is because of our sin that He had to come, then you will want to turn from your sin and trust Him for your righteousness.

Amen. And faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.(Rom 10:17) Oom Angus is very heavy on the Law and the men repent with great emotion and receive forgiveness and a second chance to get it right this time. Oom Angus leaves them under the Law and the obligation to clean up their act. Then they come here and defend not the Gospel, not Jesus Christ their righteousness, but Oom Angus. If they were mighty men of God they would come back and cleanse the pulpits of every pastor who refuses to preach the Law in all of its severity and the Gospel in all of its sweetness.

Amanda
Harry

Robbie
A scripture that suits your doctrine taken out of context.

Barland Johnson

Hi Deborah
The deluded will always attack the person and not dscuss the issue. (NAZI AND AWB tactic)but not one them could properly discuss and take you on with the word of GOD and from the word of GOD show you that you are wrong. Is it because they read oom angus’s devotions, or other literature other than the bible and call themselves christian. Like the gent whose wife wants to use the computer for facebook.
A quote from a preacher “when the devil tells the truth do not believe him”. When angus mixes truth with lies do not believe him – my wife want’s to go on facebook – friend. Please come up with a valid biblical argument or debate and counter her with the word of GOD. otherwise we will all laugh at you every time and say a girl beat you. hehehehe
WE LOVE THE TRUTH
WE LOVE THE TRUTH

Amanda

Deborah

I have Good News for you! Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures (1Co 15:3)

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it– the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. (Rom 3:21-26)

Amanda

Harry

Were you given the Unashamedly Ethical commitment form at MMC 2010?

BOD

“No, BOD. I will not agree to disagree.”

Well in that case Amanda, you agree to agree with me. Thank goodness for that.

In my opinion your portrayal of the gospel is law like in the narrow strict manner that you define it. You’re not a KJV acolyte by any chance are you? Ie a person that holds that KJV is the only true bone fide English translation of the word of God? I just haven’t seen this level of tunnel vision in a biblical discussion since I last debated a person that held that stringent belief.

“If you do not like it, your argument is with the Word and not with me.” You’re trying desperately to align your narrow interpretation with the word of God here, but as I have demonstrated previously, your position is inconsistent with the Word, as you state that repentance has no place in the Gospel, despite the fact I have shown you Jesus and Peter preached on it. And you quoted a scripture which clearly shows that repentance is part of the Gospel, ie the Good news:

“Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. (Luk 24:46-47)

“By the way, Jesus Christ did not condemn the Pharisees for their defense of the Law.”
Yes he did. Jesus tore shreds off the Pharisees because their defense of the law was hypocritical. Though outwardly they adhered to the law, inwardly, on a heart level they did not adhere to the law (ie the spirit of the law).

Barland, your quote: “The deluded will always attack the person and not dscuss the issue” Your own words play right back at you. :>

Deborah, answers below:

– Do you believe that the Church has replaced Israel? This is called Replacement theology. That South Africans are part of the lost tribes of Israel? Did you hear or see a lot of Shofar blowing going on around the camp?

Replaced in what sense? I’m not familiar with the theology you are referring to at all. I prefer to focus on the Gospel than get fixated on a tangent like that. I did not hear or see Shofar blowing around the camp.

– And another question, do you believe that all faiths who ‘call’ themselves Christian but are not like Mormons etc can UNIFY without changing their heretical beliefs?

This is a strange loaded question. Mormons unify with whom? They can do what they like but I believe their heretical beliefs will hinder individuals from being restored in relationship with God, until they have heard the real Good News and have had a genuine life changing encounter with God.
– What do you think Revival really means?
The word Revival means different things for different people. I’d probably go with the wiki definition on this “generally refers to a specific period of increased spiritual interest or renewal in the life of a church congregation or many churches, either regionally or globally.”
– Do you understand what Angus means when he says, “the manifestations of the sons of God is near’?
I haven’t heard Angus preach on this, so I cannot comment on this.
– Do you believe the Holy Spirit abides in Christians? or do you think the Holy Spirit hangs around in the atmosphere, moving amongst the crowd?
I believe the Holy Spirit lives in the heart of every genuine Christian believer. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit also manifested outside of believers. I don’t like to pigeon hole God. The Holy Spirit does as He chooses, so I have an open mind in this area.

God bless,

Brett

Elmarie A

Harry –

You said:‘Every answer you have they will find a scripture to shoot you down’

Robbie said:Sorry mate, that is the only weapon we have… Scripture… not ourselves and our man-made armour.

Harry do you even know what this means? To have the Full Armour of God, to protect truly saved Christians against people like you? You are very good in, insulting people, that is not from God, but from Satan.

Ephesians 6:10-12 (Amplified Bible)

10In conclusion, be strong in the Lord [be empowered through your union with Him]; draw your strength from Him [that strength which His boundless might provides]. 11Put on God’s whole armor [the armor of a heavy-armed soldier which God supplies], that you may be able successfully to stand up against [all] the strategies and the deceits of the devil. 12For we are not wrestling with flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the despotisms, against the powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) sphere.

Harry the full armor is this:(I also told you this before)Do you ever read your Bible?

Ephesians 6:13-17
13Therefore put on God’s complete armor, that you may be able to resist and stand your ground on the evil day [of danger], and, having done all [the crisis demands], to stand [firmly in your place]. 14Stand therefore [hold your ground], having tightened the belt of truth around your loins and having put on the breastplate of integrity and of moral rectitude and right standing with God, 15And having shod your feet in preparation [to face the enemy with the [a]firm-footed stability, the promptness, and the readiness [b]produced by the good news] of the Gospel of peace.(B)16Lift up over all the [covering] shield of [c]saving faith, upon which you can quench all the flaming missiles of the wicked [one]. 17And take the helmet of salvation and the sword that the Spirit [d]wields, which is the Word of God.18Pray at all times (on every occasion, in every season) in the Spirit, with all [manner of] prayer and entreaty. To that end keep alert and watch with strong purpose and perseverance, interceding in behalf of all the saints (God’s consecrated people).

Harry you said to Robbie:
A scripture that suits your doctrine taken out of context.

No one here has ever taken anything out of context, only you have Harry. Stop the lies and find the real Jesus please. You are saying because we give you Bible verses that suits us it, is our doctrine taken out of context? Noooo Harry then you are saying The Bible is out of context!! That says to me you don’t believe in God but in man. Well Harry the truth is the only doctrine found is in the Word of God, and the sooner you come to repentance for your sins and declare Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then only then will you find peace in your heart.

Harry you keep on coming back, is this because you are unsure about you being truly saved? could you have had a false conversion? I told you before your fruits show to all here you are not what you say you are.

Harry why have you not given any Bible verse on this thread? You just utter your empty insults, that is not how a reborn Christian should speak?

You are in our prayers Harry. It is our duty to pray for you.

Ephesians 1:17
[For I always pray to] the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, that He may grant you a spirit of wisdom and revelation [of insight into mysteries and secrets] in the [deep and intimate] knowledge of Him,

Harry you have not read anything we have written to you why?

Elmarie A

Barland Johnson

Thank you for your words.

Robbie

Elmarie..
Thanks for covering my back….lol

Harry… you have so much scripture and truth now.. free yet?

Elmarie A
Amanda

BOD

I will not agree that it is okay for you to preach your own gospel-non-gospel here without being corrected.

In 1 Cor 15 Paul defines the Gospel:

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: (1Co 15:1-5)

Paul got this Gospel directly from Jesus Christ:

But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (Gal 1:11-12)

The Apostles in Jerusalem approved of Paul’s Gospel.

Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain. But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised: And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man’s person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me: But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:) And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. (Gal 2:1-9)

Paul was stubborn about the Gospel that he preached:

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-9)

BOD, you said:

And you quoted a scripture which clearly shows that repentance is part of the Gospel, ie the Good news

No, it does not. 1Co 15:1-5 defines the Gospel. Luk 24:46-47 is Jesus Christ’s instruction to the church. You said:

He [Angus Buchan] preaches the full Gospel, ie repentance for sin.

Repentance is not the Gospel.

You said:

You’ve demonstrated strict conformity to a narrow legalistic definition of the gospel. It comes across as a Pharisee like defense of OT law.

I said:

“By the way, Jesus Christ did not condemn the Pharisees for their defense of the Law.”

Why would He if He Himself said:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 5:17-20)

Now you say:

Yes he did. Jesus tore shreds off the Pharisees because their defense of the law was hypocritical.

Now I have lost the plot. Are you saying that the defense of the Gospel is okay, but not in my case because I am hypocritical? I am sorry, I don’t understand. Maybe you can benefit from reading Todd Wilken’s Playing the Pharisee Card before you try that one again.

You said:

I just haven’t seen this level of tunnel vision in a biblical discussion since I last debated a person that held that stringent belief.

Then maybe you have not read Paul or Fox’s Book of Stubborn, Blinkered Pharisees.

Amanda

Deborah

Get Rob Bell’s Revised KJV

It will have to have a page or two for Rob Bell’s gospel. When asked “How would you present this gospel on Twitter?” he said:

I would say that history is headed somewhere. The thousands of little ways in which you are tempted to believe that hope might actually be a legitimate response to the insanity of the world actually can be trusted. And the Christian story is that a tomb is empty, and a movement has actually begun that has been present in a sense all along in creation. And all those times when your cynicism was at odds with an impulse within you that said that this little thing might be about something bigger—those tiny little slivers may in fact be connected to something really, really big.

Unless he goes for the shorter Nooma version: “You are the gospel!| And it will need a couple of chapters for Bell’s resurrection bringing a new physicality.

BOD—–I haven’t heard Angus preach on this, so I cannot comment on this.

See Stand Up and be Counted – Might Men Conference 2010

Amanda

BOD said:

He [Angus Buchan] preaches the full Gospel, ie repentance for sin.

Dr. Dion Forster said of MMC 2010:

Rather, it was a simple challenge to men to work for social transformation, racial reconciliation, responsibility in their families.

This is not Christianity.

And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2Th 2:6-12)

Grant C

Amanda

In the light of the proportions this discussion has attained on this blog (and other blogs), the following small detail seems relatively insignificant, but relevant.

This, from a piece submitted on another blog (which you spotted earlier). The author rightly so, refers to a newspaper article regarding Oupa Angus, his signature head-gear fashion of choice and his habit of preaching with it on. I thought this might provide an added flavour, not that the issue needs any more than Angus and his dominionist followers have already given it.

1 Corinthians 11: 4

King James Bible
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Every man who covers his head when he prays or speaks what God has revealed dishonors the one who has authority over him.

Does Angus do this:
1) as a sign of defiance to the purity of the Word or,
2) not realizing his error in judgement or,
3) determining that this rule does not apply to his brand of faith or,
4) for medical reasons or,
5) there are no trees left in the huge clearing he made on his farm or,
6) out of forgetfulness or,
7) removing it at certain times accentuating the correct moment

Triviality or noteworthy? Apologies if this seems to belittle the old man. Not my intention.

Like a rhinestone cowboy…

Amanda

BOD, Harry and all the mighty men

I think you are used to chewing on stones and that you do not know what the Bread of Life tastes like. Dr. Dion Forster said about MMC 2010:

Rather, it was a simple challenge to men to work for social transformation, racial reconciliation, responsibility in their families.

Before you fall prey to the wisdom of Dr. Dion’s ‘simple’ challenge, I challenge you to find true Bread, taste it and then re-consider your defense of stones. Read this A Sermon Preached by the Rev. Ron Hodel at the Installation of Pastor Jeremy Rhode on Sunday June 23, 2007 [extract].

But God does more by the foolishness of preaching Christ than the world has ever accomplished with all its wisdom. In God’s gracious, good pleasure He took the last thing anyone would ever expect Him to take, (an old rugged cross and RH typeable blood) and used it to forgive us of all of our sin! And in doing this, God made a joke out of the arrogant wisdom of the wise of this world.

Think of it! A simple missionary or a Pastor tells the story of the incarnation and the voluntary suffering and death of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin – and that changes the heart of hearers in a way that none of the wisdom of the world ever could do.

• It saves them,

• it reconciles them to God,

• it causes them to be adopted as children of the heavenly Father…

• in a word, it justifies them before God for Jesus’ sake.

• It succeeds in making rebels believe what this story says.

Foolishness, don’t you think? As Luther said in one of his Christmas sermons, Why if I have been God, I wouldn’t have done it that way! I would have just taken the devil and twisted his nose and said, Let my people go! And that makes sense.

Preach sermons that point people to practical things.

• Things they have control over.

• Things where they can see their own progress.

• Sermons that deal with problems only rich Americans seem to have.

• Bits of fabulous advise for maintaining health, finding a purpose and increasing wealth.

• Bits of wisdom for those — who plan never to die.

But those aren’t sermons. I don’t know what they are, but they’re not sermons.

• A sermon is about the depth of your sin and mine.

• A sermon is about Christ’s atoning blood freely given to redeem you and me from that sin.

• A sermon is about Jesus as the only merit we have and that that merit of Jesus is freely and fully reckoned to our account.

You can find Pastor Hodel and Pastor Rhode’s sermons here. Listen to a few of them.

Try Rev. William Cwirla’s The Cure Looks Like the Disease[extract]:

Like the Israelites in the wilderness, humanity is “snake-bitten.” It happened in the Garden when the shrewd and subtle serpent tempted Eve and injected the poison of his lie. The lie that God is not true to His Word. The lie that God doesn’t mean what He says. The lie that we can be gods in place of God, that we can experience good and evil on our own terms, that we can reach into the middle and be masters of our own destiny. The lie that we can disobey God and we won’t die as a result. Eve bit, Adam bit. The serpent bit and his deadly poison invaded our humanity leaving no part undamaged. Humanity died that day. They were dead to God and to each other – hiding, ashamed, blaming, self-justifying. The poison not only invaded them, it was passed on to their children. Every son and daughter is infected with the serpent’s venom. No generation is skipped. Not you. Each of us is born with the poison coursing through our humanity. The apostle Paul says, “You were dead in trespasses and sin.” Not sick, not weak, not troubled, not struggling or even hanging on for dear life. Snake-bitten dead.

How do you cure a deadly case of snake bite? You don’t put a band aid on it and say, “Think positive thoughts and try really hard to get better.” You don’t say, “Pray this prayer for the snakebitten, and all will be well.” You need a shot of anti-serum. Anti-serum comes from one who has been exposed to the poison and survived. God made Jesus the sinless Son to be sin for you. He became your sin, so that in Him you might become the righteousness of God. He was cursed with the curse against your sin; He was damned for you. He was exposed to our sin and death. Jesus took the full hit for us, the wrath of God, the temptations of the devil, the judgment of the Law. He went down to our grave, and He rose from the dead. He conquered our death in His Death. He is the anti-serum of Death. Like the bronze serpent on the pole, all who believe in Him are healed of death and have eternal life.

An extract from another sermon by Rev. Cwirla: Justified by Grace through Faith

That brings us to the Jesus point, which is also the justification point. Jesus has redeemed you from slavery to sin. If the Son sets you free, you truly are free. He redeemed you not with gold or silver or money, but with His holy, precious Blood and with His innocent suffering and death. He was made your sin, though He Himself knew no sin. He was baptized into your sin and death. He drank the cup of God’s wrath poured out on you. He became you under the Law; He became all humanity under the Law, to bear our sin and also to be our righteousness.

Jesus is perfect humanity under the Law. He fears, loves, trusts in God above all things. He rightly honors God’s name and Word. He is the obedient Son of His Father and His mother. He helps and befriends His neighbor; He is sexually pure, chaste, and holy. He does not steal, lie, gossip, slander or covet anything. He is perfect Man under the Law, and that perfection is yours by grace through faith all for Jesus’ sake.

He was made your sin. He is condemned humanity, one huge rebellious Man, covered with your sin. He is the drunkard, the adulterer, the murderer, the thief, the liar. He is damned with our damnation, cursed with the curse of the Law, receiving in His own body what you and I deserved. But He gets it instead. He does justice to our sins in two ways: He keeps the Law for us where we could not; and He dies under the Law for us as we deserve to die. This is the “righteousness of God” that brought hope and joy to Luther and the reformers. Not the righteousness of God under the Law by which we are judged and found wanting, but the righteousness of God under the Gospel who justifies the sinner for Jesus’ sake.

More Cwirla sermons here.

Once you have done that, we can discuss Oom Angus’ sermon from the 2010 Turn to God Conference.

Anyone up to the challenge?

Amanda

Grant

His 400 000 new best friends plus handlers will not correct him. If he should start preaching Jesus Christ and Him crucified for sinners, then I shall give him your note and a donation of sunblock.

Robbie

There once was an Emperor who wore invisible clothes. He told all 400 000 of his men that he was going to parade in his new clothes and that ONLY the “intelligent amongst the men” will be able to see his clothes.

Nobody wanted to be branded as dumb or stupid so 400 000 admirably cheered the Emperor as he paraded naked in front of everyone.

… I dunno. the story just came up.

Robbie

Strange that “His 400 000 new best friends plus handlers will not correct him” (I am still with the Emperor)

I mean…There is the poor guy parading in front of the world in – what he thinks is a tuxedo!! and all the sheep follow… one behind the other?

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