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Andrew Strom and J Lee Grady – False Teachers waiting for the Spiritual Revival of the Roman Catholic Church

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Andrew Strom and J Lee Grady – False Teachers waiting for the Spiritual Revival of the Roman Catholic Church

Andrew Strom has tried desperately to play the role of the ‘good guy’.  But I have repeatedly shown him up for what he is;  just another false teacher. See here:  Andrew Strom, Revival School, John the Baptist TV.

Now Andrew Strom sent out this newsletter written by Lee Grady from Charisma Magazine.  Charisma Magazine (owned by Stephen Strang) and Lee Grady are part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).  In fact Andew Strom is also part of the NAR but he will plead differently, yet his doctrine and fruit tell you otherwise.

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Andrew’s website logo is that of FIRE, we know that Biblically the Holy Spirit is not fire,  see my articles here: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire  and here: Fire of The Holy Spirit – Judgment or Anointing?

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The COMING SPIRITUAL TSUNAMI in THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

by J. Lee Grady  [DTW note in Green]


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I believe God showed me He is sending a wave of His Spirit to
bring reformation.  [DTW note:  Is Lee Grady implying that the Roman Catholic Church is going to go from a Babylonian Pagan religion to a Christian religion?  I don’t think so.  No where is this mentioned in the bible.   Let’s analyse this newsletter in respect of the false beliefs that Lee Grady and Andrew Strom follow.]

More than 10 years ago, I had the most vivid dream I´ve ever
experienced. I told my wife about it the moment I woke up because
it was so profound. The scenes are still etched in my memory.

I dreamed I was standing inside the Vatican. Keep in mind that
I´ve never been a Catholic, and I´ve never visited Italy. But in my
dream, I was in an ornate hall decorated with marble columns
and a fancy paved floor. I walked over to a huge, arched window
where I could see a panoramic view of Vatican City.

Suddenly a huge wave appeared on the horizon. A tsunami was
coming. The wave got closer and closer, but I did not feel panic,
even though I could hear people running and yelling as they
prepared for the impact. I stood near a wall and braced myself.

When the wave hit, the palatial building began creaking and tilting.
Antique tables, chairs, candelabra and statues began sliding to
one side as the floor moved. Chandeliers were hanging at odd
angles. Within minutes the floor was perpendicular to the ground
and more furniture came crashing down. The movement continued
until the floor became the ceiling. More religious icons, statues
and paintings fell and broke into pieces.

In my dream, I did not feel anxious about this catastrophe. Nor did
I ask the obvious questions: How could a tsunami reach that far
inland since the Vatican is almost 20 miles from the Mediterranean
coast? How could a tsunami turn a huge building upside down?
And why was there no water anywhere? I knew in my dream that
what I had witnessed was a spiritual event.  [DTW note: There is Vatican I and then there is Vatican II. Vatican I is the stiff upper lip, speak Latin or die version of the Roman Catholic Church. Vatican II is the Roman Catholic Churches re-evengelization program to take over the world under the disguise of a re-worked ‘Christian-look-a-like-doctrine’ that spreads like wild FIRE (Note Andrew Stroms Logo).  The Roman Catholic Churches greatest evangelist to spread this doctrine was Billy Graham:  See here: (The New Evangelical – Evil fit for a New Dark Age).  The Word of Faith movement and the Apostolic movement, the Emergent movement and everything in between, is nothing but the Vatican II’s Catholic doctrine being spread across the world.]

At that point I heard a commotion at the other end of the hall.
When I got close enough, I discovered a group of Catholic nuns
and priests who were praying in the Holy Spirit. They had their
hands raised and they were worshiping God fervently, as if they
had experienced another Pentecost.  [DTW note:  There is going to be NO move of God over the Roman Catholic church, the RCC however plays a huge part in biblical prophecy during these last days. 

Revelation 17:1-6
1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

“The apostle John was greatly disturbed (marveled with admiration) at the sight of the drunken woman because his expectations of seeing a pure, holy and untarnished Bride of Christ was shattered by this abominable vision of a harlot riding a beast.”  —>Church Headed Back to Rome or is it Babylon?

It is because of the infiltration of Vatican II’s evangelization program into the genuine Christian church turning her into what she is today; unrecognizable, a whore.  What we have now is a false Christianity, a neo-Catholicism.   What Lee Grady and Andrew are speaking about, is they are expecting Vatican II, this Neo-Catholicism, to come back at the Roman Catholic Church as a whole and overtake Vatican I. ]

The atmosphere was spiritually charged. Yet, as these people
prayed, a man dressed in ornate religious garb began to shout
angrily at them in Italian. He was obviously not happy with the
way these Catholics were behaving.  [DTW note:  Yes Vatican I is very formal and wont like the strange manifestations of this STRANGE FIRE from Vatican II, but it will sweep across the Roman Catholic Church never the less as it brings all ‘so called Christian’ faiths together under one false spirit]

This upset me, and I began
to rebuke him. I was speaking in my prayer language, so I didn´t
know what I was saying. But I knew God was rebuking the leaders
who were opposing His work.

At that point, I woke up. And I felt the Holy Spirit say to me: “I
am going to turn the Catholic Church upside down.”  [DTW note:  With Vatican I and all their pompous parading up and down in their garments, this will feel like the Catholic church is being turned on it’s head.  People who do not understand what is going on, thinking this FIRE spirit is of God will actually believe that Catholics are getting saved, but they are not.  As I explained earlier, it’s just a more vibrant version of Roman Catholicism sweeping back over them, and some of the more ceremonial persuasion wont like it, they prefer Vatican I without the tongues speaking and convulsing on the floor.]

I don´t believe all dreams are from God. Sometimes our brains
just think in Technicolor while we sleep. Other times a dream is
simply a crazy subconscious reaction to the pepperoni pizza
we ate before bedtime. But in this case, I have come to believe
God was showing me something big that He plans to do in my lifetime.   [DTW note:  Yes this is big, but not how you believe it to be.  Your vision Lee Grady has been given to you by Satan and you interpret it for those who do not know their bibles like yourself.  You have been tricked and you trick others.]

Pope John Paul II was still in office when I had this dream. Pope
Benedict has since come and gone, and this week, cardinals are
electing a new leader-at a time when the world´s 1.2 billion
Catholics have been reeling from reports of child abuse and sex
scandals among clergy.

I believe a great shaking is coming to the Catholic system, and it
will have both positive and negative impact. God is not pleased
with man-made religious structures (in any denomination)  [DTW note:  Let me tell you what impact it will have. Those in the higher echelons of the Roman Catholic church are expecting this unholy fire to come sweeping through their church soon in fact it is doing so already; they know because they created Vatican II and sent it off 50 years ago (see here: The True Spirit of Vatican II) – sooner or later it would come back.  Lee Grady and Andrews ‘positive’ impact is that people are going to get saved by this TSUNAMI from God. Wrong!  Lee and Andrews ‘negative’ impact is that the Vatican powers-that-be will try and stifle this supposed wave of God.  Wrong!  This is not a Christian movement, people are not going to be getting saved, the RCC is not going to be turned on its head and smash their idols and correct their 10 commandments and repent of their billion sins and converted to biblical Christianity. ]

that hinder people from knowing Him, and He is serious when He asks
us to tear down the idols we have created to take His place. In
the end, God always judges idolatry.

On the flip side, He also cares about the millions of people in the
Catholic Church who call upon the name of Jesus and who desire
His presence. [DTW note:  Yes God is,   John 3:16  “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”  And any Catholic who genuinely seeks Jesus Christ the Son of God and repents of their ways and leaves the RCC behind them will be saved.   It is interesting that Lee Grady makes use of the word, “…who desire His presence”.    This is contemplative spirituality talk.   You do some form of meditation to enter God’s presence. This is not the biblical presence of God that is mentioned in the Bible but a mystical presence.   The Biblical understanding of God’s presence is this:  When you are born again Jesus Christ’s blood washes away our sins and this is a covering that presents us holy and unblameable and spotless in God’s sight. It is the only way for us to enter into His presence.   If it was not for Jesus’ blood you would not be able to stand before God.  Jesus is our mediator and He brings you into God’s presence.  What do we have to do? Nothing, nada, no rituals, no prayers, no nothing.    The mystical way on the other hand; is that you need to meditate in order to feel/enter God’s presence.]

For them, the coming wave of God´s power will
unleash a new hunger for the Holy Spirit and God´s unadulterated
Word. As corruption is exposed and structures are shaken, I
expect to see Catholics around the world experience a 21st-
century reformation movement. Traditionalists will fight it, of course,
but dead religion is powerless when faced with genuine spiritual
awakening. Young reformers from various nations will challenge
the system and say, like Moses said to Pharaoh, “Let My people
go” (Ex. 5:1).  [DTW  note:  Yes it will be the youth that are going to be reforming the RCC from the inside out, because these are the ones who are being targeted by Vatican II.  You just have to look at Louie Giglio, John Piper (Calvinist/Catholic) and his Passion conferences as we draws in thousands upon thousands of youngsters and teaches them contemplative spirituality and spreads the FIRE.  Beth Moore, John Piper leads the Youth into Lectio Divina at Louie Giglio Passion’s Conference 2012]

I know there are many of my evangelical brothers who have written
off Catholics as heretics, and they leave no room for redemption
or reformation. They´d rather see the whole system crash and burn. [DTW note:  No Lee, it’s not that we would rather clearly see the whole system crash and burn, it’s because that is what the Bible says is going to happen, my goodness, when are you going to READ YOUR BIBLE?]
Perhaps they forgot that we have our own idols, sex scandals and
institutional corruption, and that we need a spiritual tsunami to
turn us upside down as well. I´m bracing myself as I pray. Send
the wave, Lord.  [DTW note:  Please provide scripture to back up your vision Lee Grady or Andrew Strom?  How about that one! :)  I would like verses for the times we are living in now, that says the Roman Catholic church is going to get reformed and saved. Thanks.  I’m waiting.  You can come and comment below.]

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source: http://www.revivalschool.com/the-coming-spiritual-tsunami-in-the-catholic-church/

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10 comments to Andrew Strom and J Lee Grady – False Teachers waiting for the Spiritual Revival of the Roman Catholic Church

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    —–Original Message—–
    From: REVIVAL List [mailto:xxxxxxxxxx]
    Sent: 22 August 2011 07:41 AM
    To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: TO DISCERNING-THE-WORLD – Andrew Strom

    Dear Editors,

    I would like the chance please to call you and discuss your
    many articles attacking me. Is there a number I can call? Would
    you prefer to call me? I look forward to your reply.

    God bless you!

    Andrew Strom.

    —————–

    From: Deborah (Discerning the World)
    Sent: 21 June 2013 08:57 PM
    To: xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: TO DISCERNING-THE-WORLD – Andrew Strom

    Dear Andrew

    I found this email in my spambox. I suppose getting back to you a few years later still counts. You can converse with us on the website in the comments section in public for all to see.

    Here is a latest article: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/06/21/andrew-strom-and-j-lee-grady-false-teachers-waiting-for-the-spiritual-revival-of-the-roman-catholic-church/

    Please do come and comment. We are all about showing off what we believe in public, I am sure you are too.

    Kind regards
    Deborah

  • Sharon

    The Mother Harlot is experiencing the fast return of the children that came out of her during the “Reformation.” The Empire of the Whore is reviving. But…I will let the Word of God speak of her “Spiritual Revival.” (Some Wolves forget and do some howling and thereby reveal themselves to those of us who know the Word.)

    Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
    Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
    Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
    Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
    Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
    Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
    Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
    Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
    Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
    Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
    Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
    Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
    Rev 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
    Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
    Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
    Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    Rev 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
    Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
    Rev 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
    Rev 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
    Rev 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
    Rev 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
    Rev 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
    Rev 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
    Rev 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
    Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
    Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
    Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
    Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
    Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    Alas…God will rid the planet of this Whore of Babylon. Hallelujah!

  • Why is it that when false teachers are reprimanded for their heresies they see and experience it as a personal attack on them? When are they going to learn to be as humble as Paul who even allowed unbelievers (Bereans) to check him out against the Word of God?

  • james sanford

    For your information,see THE CLOWNSVILLE REVIVAL, from Bible Baptist Bookstore.com by Dr. Peter S. Rickman.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    james sanford

    Is Peter S. Rickman a Calvinist?

  • Robbie

    Do we mean…. Ruckman?

  • Robbie

    Peter S Ruckman who says… “I do not believe a baby is a living soul until it breathes”

    He supports abortion, believes in aliens,and mouths full of other heresies from what I have read, listened to and heard about the 92 yr old….

  • Peter S Ruckman is not a Calvinist. In his book “Why I am not a Calvinist” hes says the following:

    I am not a Calvinist: I would be ashamed of myself if I was.

    There are enough Biblical illiterate dumbbells in Christian colleges, universities, and seminaries in this century without a teacher in a Bible Institute joining the crew.

    Calvin believed in sprinkling babies: I don’t. Calvin believed in Limited Atonement: I don’t. Calvin idolized Augustine: I wouldn’t have bothered to give the jerk the time of day.

    Calvin denied the literal Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ: I don’t.

    Calvin used John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 to prove Baptismal Regeneration: I think that proves he was either unsaved or else 80 percent Roman Catholic.

    Calvin denied that all sinners have the capacity to repent and believe on Jesus Christ: I disagree – strongly.

    Calvin taught that God purposely damned sinners before they were born, and “elected” them to Hell by making certain that not one drop of blood in Christ’s atonement was shed for them. He taught they were predestined before Genesis chapter 1 to wind up in Hell. I think Johnny had rocks for brains.

    Calvin would kill you (literally) if you disagreed with the way in which he WORDED his explanation of the Trinity. I think he was a paranoid psycho.

    Calvin taught that conversion begins with the New Birth without any repenting or any believing on the part of the convert: repentance and belief occur AFTER the sinner is saved. I think Johnny was a fit candidate for a rubber room.

    I repeat: “I am not a Calvinist.”

    I believe in the Eternal Security of the believer because Paul taught it (Rom. 8), not because Calvin went around shooting off his mouth about Sovereign Grace and Eternal Election.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Ok so he aint a calvinist that is now clear lol. As for the other stuff Robbie mentioned, goodness… supporting abortion? Is it true?

    Ahh haaa we have proof:

  • Robbie

    Deborah said: “Ahh haaa we have proof: RuckMan

    wow… quite an assemblage Debs.

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