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Retha McPherson’s Message from Another God – (Part 2)

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If you have not read Part 1, please do so before you continue to read Part 2 in order to have a full and correct understanding of the story.

The Eucharist and Retha McPherson Bathing in Blood

Now there is where things get gruesome…. Let’s just call him Satan, he says to Retha McPherson (in an audible voice by the way)

Retha, do you believe that my Son’s sacrifice was perfect and complete?”  He asked knowing that I didn’t fully understand the blood of Jesus.  “Yes, Lord”  He asked me the exact same question again, but before I could answer, I relived the crucifixion.  I saw him taking punishment.  After each blow that He would receive, God’s voice said, “I did it for you, Retha” and then he quoted John 3:16“….pg 32

If Retha McPherson is indeed seeing a vision, she is experiencing a Roman Catholic Eucharist.  She is seeing Jesus Christ on the cross being crucified.  This is totally unbiblical.  Jesus died for us ONCE.  The idea behind the Eucharist is that Jesus Christ dies for us over and over and over again, he is permanently nailed to the cross, permanently beaten, permanently dying for your sins.  The significance of the Eucharist is after everyone has taken communion, in which it is believed that the wine becomes Jesus’ actual blood and the bread becomes Jesus actual flesh that at….

“the moment of consecration the elements (called “gifts” for liturgical purposes) are believed to be transformed (literally transubstantiated) into the body and blood of Christ. Catholic doctrine holds that the elements are not only spiritually transformed, but are (substantially) transformed into the body and blood of Christ. Although the elements retain the appearance, or “accidents,” of bread and wine, they become the body and blood of Christ. This is what is meant by Real Presence within the Roman Catholic tradition; the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist”.   A monstrance, also known as ostensorium, is the vessel used in Roman Catholic, Old Catholic and Anglican churches to display the consecrated Eucharistic host, during Eucharistic adoration or Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament.  —> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance

Retha McPherson says, “After Jesus had taken 39 blows, darkness came, I saw Jesus hanging on the cross.  I heard Him calling out in pain.  I knew that it wasn’t the pain from the beating, , or the nails through His hands, but the pain of carrying the sins of the worlds and being cut off from the Father that made Him cry out.  When Jesus died…. Then God invited me into the Holy of holies, “Come into My Presence, My Child” [Emphasis added] pg 33

So there we have it, Retha entered the Real Presence of the Eucharistic Christ.

Then Retha sees a wash-bowl in front of her,

It was filled with the blood of Jesus and I knew I had to be cleaned by it.  Nothing but the blood of Jesus can fee us from the Law….I had to embrace the Truth and confess my sin.”  pg 33

There we go with the Catholic confession and non biblical Christian repentance

In my minds eye I saw myself entering the blood.  When I emerged from it, there was no condemnation for me anymore (Rom 8.1).”  pg 33

In her ‘minds eye?” she sees a bowl filled with the Jesus’s blood and then bathes in Jesus blood? This is totally satanic.

Since then I have learnt that a Jewish bride has to go through a ritual bath, called the “mikva”. Even if she’s no longer a virgin, she is considered cleansed and made holy by the “mikva””. pg 34

Why would Retha compare a heathen Jewish Ritual to her vision of bathing in a bowl of Jesus’s blood?  Maybe because Retha’s vision is heathen in nature as well.

Retha says she had to be filled with the Holy Spirit.  But hang on a second here, the bible says that when you get saved, immediately the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you.

1 Corinthians 12:13 “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body— whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.”

You would think that after you ‘see Jesus crucified, hear God speak to you audibly, enter God’s Presence and be on holy ground, bath in a bowl of Jesus’ blood, Retha would be genuinely saved by now and have the Holy Spirit, but alas it is not so… there are many things Retha still needs to do before Satan has finished playing his game.

So ‘god’ called Retha into His Presence again, into the Holy of  Holies

“In this Most Holy Place Spirit speaks to spirit. It’s “deep unto deep” Here there are no words…..I finally met God face to face“. pg 34

Retha must be the first person in the history of mankind to meet God face to face.  But we do know who likes to show his face often as an Angel of light,

2 Corinthians 11:14   “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

Your faith has power

But wait here’s the catch, Retha McPherson says,

It was as if God was saying that without my faith, His promise to heal Aldo would me meaningless.  My faith was needed for the miracle to happen.  Mt 9:20-22 we read about the woman who suffered from bleeding for 12 years.  She believed that once she touched Jesus, she would be healed.  It was her faith that caused the healing to take place, not Jesus’ garment!  That day I too touched touched the Almighty and I know that the miracle took place immediately in the spritual realm.  It’s only a matter of time before it manifest itself here, in the physical realm.” pg 37 [Emphasis added]

1) Without her faith God can’t work?  Never in my life have I heard such nonsense.  What kind of a weakling ‘god’ are we dealing with here?  2) What we are dealing with is Satan locking her into a psychological and emotional trap, basically telling her that if she stops believing in all this nonsense, Aldo wont be healed.  3) Retha then quotes Mt. 9:20-22 and misunderstands the meaning of the verse again.  Retha says, “it was her faith that caused the healing to take place…” No, it was the woman’s faith IN Jesus Christ that she was healed not ‘her faith’ that got her healed.   4) When God heals he does not need your faith to heal, He heals by Divine power alone, He heals instantly and completely, no half jobs, he leaves nothing behind – Satan on the other hand, his healings take time, and are never complete, there is always something left over.  If we look at Aldo, he was healed but his one eye still droops.

Retha McPherson says, “We took him to the eye specialist, He said that Aldo had recovered his sight in that eye completely.  God had done another miracle!  Today Aldo’s eyelid still droops and that impacts negatively on his balance and reading ability but his eyes move simultaneously now.” pg 48

I’ve heard of so many people who speak of being healed but there is always something wrong, it’s never complete; a piece of benign tumor that remains, legs healed that the man can walk after a car accident but yet the legs still reveal massive scar damage, a boy who could suddenly hear after being born deaf yet he still did not have a hole in his ear to hear – it was still sealed  the list goes on.  Crippled for life, got out of wheelchair and walked but legs were still deformed.  See article: —>Can Satan Heal

After Aldo’s operation he was still in a coma and his future was unsure, Retha quotes the following scripture,

Still God promises that He will finish the good work that He was started.” pg 39

Again Retha McPherson does not understand what she is saying. Aldo is not a ‘good work’. The ‘good work’ that God is referring to is the ‘salvation’ of an individual person.

Philippians 1:6 “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”

Aldo sees another Jesus

Aldo wakes up one night and says to Retha,

Mom, did you see Jesus? ” … “Aldo was adamant that Jesus had been in the room and touched his eyes.”  Retha cried, “God I need a miracle”….”God answered her in a soft loving voice, “No Retha, you need faith.”  pg 47

Again we have Satan playing games with Retha, telling her she needs to believe in the false Jesus that appeared to Aldo in order for a miracle to happen.  What a catch 22.  No where in the bible do we have a situation like this.  What we do have is this:

Jesus will not come back to earth, personally, spiritually, vibrationally, until his Second coming.  Jesus tells you not to believe anyone who tells you they saw Jesus.

Matthew 24:26  “Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.”

Luke 17:23  “And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.”

Again, who does like to show up?  but Satan… as an Angel of light…looking like Jesus.  Of course we have no idea what Jesus looks like so, he can show up looking like anyone and we will accept it.

Retha McPherson’s Sacrifice instead of Repentance

We now venture back to the idea of being a living a sacrificial life unto Christ in order to be saved.  As I said this notion is catching on big time and I am seeing it more and more in people’s writing and books and blogs.   God speaks to Retha McPherson again and says,

Retha, my Son came for everyone. But there is a price to what you want.”  Retha says, “What is that price, Lord? I’ll pry it right now.

God says, “You have to lay down your life. I want your life”.  Retha says, “All right Lord, “You can have my life. Just show me how to do it.”  pg 16

It’s that interesting, God does not want her to repent of her sin.  He wants her life.  Hmm what kind of strange doctrine is this?  One that is not found in the bible, that is for sure.  It more seems like a Roman Catholic type doctrine where you are to do penance (sacrifices).

I realised that if I wasn’t careful the accident could dominate my life, and then I wouldn’t be able to server God anymore” pg 21

Once again we have this god asking Retha for her son;

In His presence, in that Most Holy Place. I saw a blinding light.  That’s because God is Light and in Him there is no darkness” pg 35

That’s odd, earlier Retha saw his face….anyhow.

I was basking in this light when He asked me, “Retha are you willing yo sacrifice your child?” pg 35

My my, tit for tat. Satan is saying to her, I gave you that Eucharist Christ on a cross as a sacrifice now you must give me something, how about your child?

Are you willing to put your child on the altar and sacrifice him?”  pg 35  asked this ‘god’ again.

Retha McPherson then quotes Mt. 10:37  “…anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me.

Wow, what a preposterous demand this ‘god’ makes.  If we look at that verse, Jesus demands the supreme place in our hearts. We are to put love for Him before love to father or mother, or sister or brother or our child for that matter, so when it comes to to making a choice, Jesus or the world, we choose Jesus, we do not however “put them on the altar and sacrifice them”.

Retha McPherson asks the false Prophetess what the blood-covenant she experienced meant and she said

“it was much like the covenant God had made with Abraham after God had asked him to sacrifice his son.  She reminds me of Gen. 22:8 It reads “…God himself will provide a lamb for the burnt offering my son…” pg 37

Oh my goodness.  1)  What blasphemy, to even think your child is now the same ‘lamb’ referred to in the prophecy of Genesis.  This lamb is  Jesus Christ.  2)  In the OT Abraham obeyed God’s commandments and took Isaak to an altar to sacrifice him, but he did not sacrifice him, instead God provided a lamb to be sacrificed, NOW we are in the NT where Jesus Christ (our LAMB) is our sacrifice who died on the cross for our sins, and we obey God’s commandments through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit abiding in us as born again Christians, when we sin, we repent, we ask Jesus for forgiveness, and when we don’t repent the Holy Spirit chastises us until we do.

But what this ‘god’ wants is actually for Retha to give Aldo to him (I kid you not) because he has a

“wonderful plan for Aldo”  pg 36

After Retha lays Aldo on the imaginary alter in her mind she,

could see God’s extended hands and I heard his comforting voice.  He spoke softly to me , telling me that Aldo didn’t belong to me anymore.” pg 36

Aldo does not belong to Retha anymore?  Hold on a second. What kind of backward salvation is this.  No where in the bible do I read of God forcefully taking children from their mothers and saving them.  Everyone is born with free will and we have to come to Jesus Christ and accept Him, not He comes looking for you and accepts you.   Satan tells Retha that he will heal Aldo and that his master plan is for Aldo to tell the world that Jesus lives!  WOW, isn’t that something that the Bible does already?  Oh wait, the bible tells the truth! Aldo and his mother Retha do not tell the truth – that’s the difference – Retha and Aldo lead you to ANOTHER Christ.

Aldo writes a message to his mother and says,

“Thanks for what you did for me. Mom if you hadn’t sacrificed me, I’d be dead now! ” pg 51

What a load of nonsense.  We know that Abraham never sacrificed his son Isaak, that God provided a spotless Lamb which represented Jesus Christ.  So why did Retha have to sacrifice her son, and to whom did she sacrifice her son too. Well we know that Satan loves altars and sacrifices.

This sacrifice thing seems to be a big thing, as on page 6o Retha writes that her son writes,

that he and I will sacrifice each other to God continuously” [Emphasis added] pg 60

Incredible, absolutely no biblical back up for this what so ever.  By doing this they are pushing aside Jesus Christ’s ultimate sacrifice for mankind and trying to give God their own sacrifice instead.

Manifest Sons of God / Partial Rapture

Retha McPherson believes in a sinless bride. She says,

I am reminded that Jesus is coming back for a bride who has conquered the flesh.” pg 45

Now this is impossible because the bible tells us that we are all sinful and will only be perfect when we are in heaven. Only when we are Glorified, that is when God removes all sin from the life of the saints – in other words when we go to heaven!

Anyone who says they cant sin or does not sin, does not have the truth in them:

1 John 1:8  “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”  

Proverbs 20:9 “Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?”

Romans 8:18 “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”

 2 Corinthians 4:17 “For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;”

 “Aldo often talks about the golden bridge at the gates of heaven.  One day he his his head in his arms and made a crying sound.  I asked him why he was crying. “There is a huge golden bridge ( in heaven) . Many thousands of people are streaming across the bridge to get to the gate of pears on the other side.  But when they get there they can’t get in.  They just stand at the gate and cry” he explained. “Why can’t they go in, Aldo?” “Don’t you know Mommy? There is a wedding going on inside, but the people outside are wearing clothes of mud and that’s why they can’t go  in. They weren’t ready.” “Clothes of mud?” “Yes, they’re all muddy because they didn’t know Jesus.” pg 72

Ermmm…*clears throat*, what? This is totally unbiblical. 1) The whole Bride of Jesus Christ enters the wedding at the rapture 2) those left behind on earth to face the tribulation where not Christian at all and but still have a chance to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour.  They are not on some golden bridge with mud on their clothes crying because they have been left out of heaven.  You know the bible tells us exactly what will happen to those before, during and after the wedding feast and this NEW REVELATION from Aldo and is no where to be found in the bible.

Retha McPherson says,”The bride has to be a mature adult, because God won’t share his secrets with an immature youth” pg 74

How odd, her son is 12?  But ‘god’ is using him to tell the world that Jesus lives. God figure!

Jesus has gone to prepare a dwelling place for His bride in heaven, but not all Christians will be part of this bride.  Only those who chose to lay down their lives will go into the wedding feast.  Will you say, “Yes!” to the bridegroom?…..”Although everyone was invited to the wedding, each person has to make their own decision to give up their lives in order to become the bride.”  pg 76

Retha is preaching a false doctrine and a partial rapture, where not everyone will make it.  According to her you have to be this wonderful SUPER Holy Christian to make the cut.  The bible says other wise.  The Bible does not speak of taking half a bride when Jesus comes to fetch her, the Bible speaks of taking a Bride as in a WHOLE.    Retha says  “only those who lay down their lives will go into the wedding feast”, what kinda of convoluted doctrine does she believe in?  Nonsense.

Aldo says, “He wants to come and fetch His bride, but she is not ready.  She must stop sinning because God’s bride is Holy…..” pg 76

The bride must stop sinning? 1) No Christian is without sin, the bible says so, and when we do sin we REPENT.

There is a difference between an ignorant sin and willful sin.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Retha says, “These are high criteria to be blameless and righteous”  pg 76

You are right Retha these are high critera, and I am pretty sure you fail.  Because NO one is sinless.  And if you argue with this, then you argue with the Word of God that say. “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 John 1:8) and  “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Ecclesiastes 7:20)  BUT, because of Jesus Christ His blood washes away your sins.  “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;” (Ephesians 1:7)    Therefore we can stand before God spotless. ” In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:” (Colossians 1:22)

So, the verses that state that Christians should be totally holy and without blame is in the supernatural sense when Jesus presents us to God.  Because we have been washed by the blood of the Lamb, when we are presented before God to He intercedes for us, His blood covers us and we are seen by God as holy, unblameable and unreproveable.  On earth however, we still sin BUT we repent when we do.  As Christians though we will never be perfect on earth, Retha’s theology however demands that you are to be ‘holy and blameless’ while on earth. This is impossible and places Christians into bondage.

Ephesians 1:4  “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”

Communion – Jesus Blood, Jesus Flesh

When Retha brought Aldo home she gave him communion, but instead of seeing communion as being SYMBOLIC of Jesus blood, she actually believes it to be Jesus blood.  This is because of the horrific vision given to her by Satan in which he presented her with the Roman Catholic diabolical demonic Eucharist.

Retha McPherson says, “We took communion together. One drop of Jesus’ blood is enough for me. And it’s it enough for Aldo’s healing too“. pg 47

What does the bible say about communion?

1 Corinthians 11:27-29 “27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.”

The Lord’s Supper or Communion is a remembrance of what Jesus Christ did for us.  We do not use communion as a means to attain healing or anything else for that matter.  What does it mean to partake of communion in an unworthy manner?  1) By turning the ceremony into a Eucharist ceremony where the wine actually becomes Jesus blood instead of the wine symbolically representing Jesus blood. 2)  By not taking communion seriously and disregarding the true meaning of it and forgetting the price Jesus Christ had to pay for our salvation, 3)  You can’t come to communion with un-confessed sin, before drinking the wine and breaking the bread you need to examine yourself and ask Jesus for forgiveness of all your sins.

Jesus sacrificed his life for healing

Aldo says, “I see God sitting on His throne.  He says that His Son gave His life so that I might be healed.”   pg 115

When the bible says, “by his stripes we are healed” it’s not speaking about our health, it’s speaking about our salvation.

Isaiah 53:5   But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

This brings us to the Cross, where He endured vicariously the judgment that our sins deserved in order that through His stripes we might be healed. There on the cross He was the great sin offering and the peace offering, too – there He “made peace through the blood of His Cross” (Colossians 1:20).

Aldo’s Trip to heaven

Aldo says to Retha, “Remember after the accident when you bent over me? You were looking directly in Jesus’ eyes when He came to pick me up and take me to heaven.  I was in heaven with Him all the time.  He taught me everything in heaven. He taught me His Word.” pg 51

Really?  Jesus came down from heaven and picked up Aldo to take him back to heaven?  1) We have already discussed that Jesus will not come back until His Second coming, and…

Aldo states, “in detail how his spirit left his body at the crash site. He says it felt like grey matter leaving his body and the next moment his body was complete and without blemish. “I was completely healed” he said.  I saw you guys kneeling down next to me, I saw everything“. pg 52

2) Aldo did not die (there is no proof that he died) so how on earth did he get to heaven? 3) What happened to Aldo is that he experienced an altered state of consciousness.  His soul did not leave his body.  His mind thinks it did.  Satan was playing mind games.  It is interesting to note that Aldo supposedly went to heaven and was glorified.  When does this glorification take place? The Bible says, at the last trumpet, when Jesus Christ comes, the saints will undergo an instant transformation “we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye” (1 Corinthians 15:51);  then our perishable bodies will put on imperishable immortality (1 Corinthians 15:53).

Meets 2 boys in Heaven

Retha McPherson says, “That night he wrote that he had met Anton in heaven, “You have to tell his mother and father that he is healthy now”  pg 56  Aldo says, “Mom had to look for Anton’s parents. She had to tell them that he is healthy and happy with Jesus.” pg 56

Retha found the parents based on directions that Aldo gave her and she delivered the message to Anton’s parents.

“Aldo also met Dwane in heaven.” “Mom do you remember those people whose son suffocated in the sand? I did remember them for they contacted and supported us while Aldo was in a coma in hospital.  I didn’t understand how Aldo knew about them though.  He wrote them a letter:  “Dwane is safe with Jesus in heaven. He doesn’t want to come back, but he want you to be ready.” pg 57

Well Retha, I have it on good authority that you are neighbours with Dwanes parents, the one corner of your yard meets and that that often converse!   Aldo knew who Dwane was.  It is therefore possible to assume that Aldo know who Anton was as well.

Jesus’ Birth

God speaks to Retha McPherson again (can you believe it, I can’t) and says,

 “He asked me how Jesus was born. I could only answer that it had been supernaturally.”  pg 57

You kidding Retha, you spent, I am presuming years, in a Renewal congregation and you don’t know how Jesus was born? What bothers me is what you say next…

Supernatural – just like Aldo’s letters from God.” pg 57

This false god is telling Retha and comparing the birthing of Aldo’s letters to the supernatural birthing of Jesus Christ.  What blasphemy.

Distorted view of Crucifixion

Aldo’s letters supposedly gives Retha McPherson hope.  In one he writes,

Jesus promised that He would heal him, He adds that Jesus has already paid the price for his healing and that we mustn’t stop believing.” pg 60

Jesus paid the price for our healing? Since when? No, no, Retha and little Aldo, Jesus’ death on the cross was for our sins (not health), no one would have eternal life if it was not for Jesus’s sacrifice. Jesus Himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). In this verse, Jesus  Christ declares the reason for His birth, death and resurrection and that is to provide the way to heaven for sinful mankind. This is why Jesus came and this is why He died, to become the ultimate and the final sacrifice, the perfect (without blemish) sacrifice for our sins (Colossians 1:22;1 Peter 1:19), not health.  We will only be fully healthy when we are in heaven.

Aldo the Prophet

Retha McPherson says “Aldo has the gift of prophecy” pg 64

Aldo told a teacher “that she’d have a baby boy on the 11th of October 2006……On cue, she started to have contractions on October 11th, and was admitted to hospital.  They gynecologist tied to delay the labour, but by the 13th they could no longer inhibit it and her baby boy was born through an emergency C-section on that day”  pg 64

Well hang on a second, that makes him a false prophet, if GOD said the baby was going to be born on the 11th, then surely GOD would be right? He knows the future.  So who then gave Aldo false information?  Someone who lies, the father of lies:

John 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Retha Retha McPherson and Aldo McPherson – another ‘Christ’

This is a shocker.

Aldo identifies with another prophet from the Bible: Samuel.  On occasion Aldo wrote that he was like Samuel who had to go back to the temple to study the Scriptures.  Samuel returned to the temple when he was 12-years-old and Aldo was 12-years-old when the accident happened  “Mommy, you are like Hanna, from the Bible. She was Samuel’s mother. Samuel didn’t belong to her and I don’t belong to you anymore, Mommy.  Remember you sacrificed me to God; I belong to Him now” pg 65 said Aldo.

Samuel is a type of Christ!  The story of Samuel parallels with Jesus Christ perfectly.

ParallelsBetweenSamuelandJesus Retha McPhersons Message from Another God   (Part 2)

For complete list of Parallels see PDF file here

Aldo says, “I will lead those who are lost out of their despair under the Cloud, Just like Moses did.”  pg 93

This is an incredible statement.  1) Aldo is saying he is replacing Jesus Christ and will lead people out of their despair to God 2)  Aldo is referring to the OT and Moses – thereby placing himself under the law and all who believe his nonsense under law. 3)  Aldo is not getting his information from God, but from Satan, and this Cloud he is speaking about is actually the Cloud of Unknowning.  Aldo wants to lead people into Contemplative spirituality.

The Cloud of Unknowing (Middle English: The Cloude of Unknowyng) is an anonymous work of Christian mysticism written in Middle English in the latter half of the 14th century. The text is a spiritual guide on contemplative prayer in the late Middle Ages. The underlying message of this work proposes that the only way to truly “know” God is to abandon all preconceived notions and beliefs or “knowledge” about God and be courageous enough to surrender your mind and ego to the realm of “unknowingness,” at which point, you begin to glimpse the true nature of God. —> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cloud_of_Unknowing

Aldo says of his mother Retha,

God is raising you up to save souls of the lost for His kingdom.  You have to open the big door to your spirit.”  [Emphasis added] pg 111

Again they usurp Jesus Christ’s work of saving lost souls.  Jesus came to save lost souls, not Retha.

Jesus says:  Luke 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Retha McPherson to become one with God

Retha says, “I had to die to myself (my shell had to break) before I could become one with God.  Just like one would mix egg and flour together to bake bread.” pg 73

Well now, this is not scriptural.  When we become Christians and the Holy Spirit comes to abide in us, we grow to become more Christ like, we do not become like Christ, we do not become one with God.  This is impossible. However in New Age teaching Union with God is very possible and they take bible scriptures and twist them to suit themselves.  Aldo is already stating that he is a type of Samuel, so it is just plain to see that Retha is searching for her “Christ within”, her “God within”.

Retha McPherson becomes “the bread”;

Retha says; “Egg and flour mixture is then places in a plan and baked in a hot oven…..When the bread is finally lifted out the pan, it’s placed on a plate.  The Host breaks it and it’s aroma spreads throughout the house.  I can almost hear God saying, “Only now can I feed the world with you.  Now we are one and you know that nothing can separate you from Me again“. pg 74

Jesus Christ’s body is symbolic of bread, however Retha has taken the bread and associated it to herself.  “Only now can I feed the world with you”?  What a blasphemous statement.  Retha has chucked aside Jesus Christ who came in the flesh, and put herself in His position as someone who is One with God, who can feed the world.

Jesus showed Aldo hell

Aldo says, “He showed me everything in heaven and in hell.  Believe me when I say you don’t want to go to to hell”. pg 71

Why would a loving God show a little boy something as terrible as hell?  Never.

Retha McPherson and Aldo McPherson Pleading the Blood of Jesus

Retha says, “I plead the blood of Jesus over my family on a daily basis….whenever I see the hand of the enemy in a situation, I proclaim the blood of Jesus, saying, “Satan, you have no authority here.  The blood of Jesus opposes you! It’s unfortunate so few ministers preach on the topic of the blood of Jesus, because few Christians understand the power of it. Demons recognize the power of His blood and the flee before it and Satan is defenseless against it.  When you ask God to cover you with His blood, you acknowledge and honor Him and the Name that is above all names: Jesus Christ.  “Share your knowledge of My blood with My children said the Holy Spirit. “For they don’t understand it“.  pg 83-84

Nonsense, this is false teaching, the confusion comes in where people love to “plead the Blood of Jesus’ over oneself and others and everything for that matter, turning the blood of Jesus into a magic ritual of sorts. This is based on OT covenant where the blood of the animal would be sprinkled on doorsteps as a covering, offering spiritual protection, etc. However, this was a temporary covenant. This blood needed to be repeated daily and yearly. This is law. We don’t do this. If we do this, we admonish Jesus’ sacrifice and his shed blood on the cross for us once and for all. If we do this blood covering we also shun the Holy Spirit.

1 John 4:4 “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

Philippians 2:10-11   “10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

Philippians 4:13 “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”

However in the context of salvation, Jesus’ Blood is precious and symbolises life:   In the NT God would later send His only Son providing a NEW covenant, or New Testament through Jesus Christ. Jesus would die in the place of all sinners. His sacrifice fulfilled completely what the Old Testament covenant meant to. His blood would remove the sins of the world for all who put their faith in Him. This sacrifice would never have to be repeated; it is an eternal covenant. And we have the Holy Spirit who then comes to abide in us, who leads us, comforts us, and convicts us of sin. The Holy Spirit in us, makes us want too obey God and live a life that is pleasing to Him.

1 Peter 1:18-19, “For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And the ransom he paid was not mere gold or silver. He paid for you with the precious lifeblood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God.

Mat 26:28 “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”

Blood covering washes away our sin and is a COVERING that presents us holy and unblameable and spotless in God’s sight. In order for us to come before God, into His presence, you can only come to the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ His Son. Once you accept Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross to save you and repent of your sin, His Blood covers you ONCE, so that you can appear spotless before God. If it was not for Jesus’ Blood you would not be able to stand before God.  Jesus brings you into God’s presence.

This is the Biblical understanding of God’s presence, we as Christians do not seek it out.  

Fire wall

When Aldo was in hospital the false Prophetess came to the hospital and “prayed  for a wall of fire around around Aldo’s bed and over his life” pg 38

Retha says “I also pray for a wall of fire to protect us fromevery evil force and power that may come against us” pg 83

Is this biblical?  Where in the bible does anyone pray for a wall of fire?  No where. This is unscriptural and satanic.

Aldo often talks to Angels

Aldo aften sees and talks to angels….One night in Septermber 2006, Aldo went missing from the house….He was standing under a tree, talking to someone only he could see.  “Who are you talking to, Aldo?”  Tinus enquired.  “Can’t you see him?” asked Aldo.  We replied that we didn’t see anyone other than him. “It’s the angel Raphael,” Aldo replied  pg 62  and

The presence of the angle in our house was simply overpowering.” pg 63

Retha McPherson did an internet search on Raphael,

It turns out that he is mentioned in one of the apocryphal books of the Bible as the archangel of healing.  He is supposedly one of seven angels who carry the prayers of the righteous and who can enter into the glory of God.” pg 63

Aldo says, “I see Raphael at night when he comes to speak to me.  It’s his job to heal us.  He helped me regain my sight.” pg 127

Aldo wrote “Jesus says I shouldn’t go out at night anymore.  He will heal me Himself” pg 63

Hang on, we have some major confusion here.  Didn’t a ‘Jesus‘ appear to Aldo in his room and touch his eyes and tell Aldo he will heal him? Yes he did!  Now it seems it was not Jesus but a healing angel called Raphael who touched his eyes.  Now ‘Jesus’ is saying, “Ah, forget Raphael, I’ll heal you.”  Would someone in the spiritual world of all things unholy make up their mind?”  Satan is the author of confusion of course so it is to be expected that this ‘Jesus’ does not know whether he is coming or going.  1)  the Apocryphal books are non biblical books, they are in fact Catholic books. 2) Jesus Christ the Son of God is our healer, not some angel called Raphael. 3)  Raphael get’s around in New Age teaching as a supposed healing archangel and as the angel that appears when you have opened your Third Eye (6th Chakra)

Sanskrit Name

Ajna (to perceive)  RainbowLabyrinth6Path1 Retha McPhersons Message from Another God   (Part 2)

Colour

Indigo blue

Mantra

Aum (Om)

Location

Brow

Gland

Pituitary

Purpose

Intuition and imagination

Key Word

Clarity

Demon

Illusion

Rights

To see

Goals

Psychic perception, accurate interpretation, imagination, clear seeing, balance between yin/yang, female/male, moon/sun, left/right

Associated With

Developed intuition. Start to have clear vision of own spiritual path. Feelings of knowing and transcendence. Gain insight into the destiny of mankind.

Mental & Emotional Issues

Lessons related to mind, intuition, insight and wisdom. Power of the mind, self-evaluation, truth, intellectual abilities, feelings of adequacy, openness to the ideas of others, ability to learn from experience, emotional intelligence, processing information, psychic ability (3rd eye)

Element

Light

Musical Scale

A

Planet

Mercury

Archetypes

Hermit, Psychic, Dreamer

Archangel

RAPHAEL

Affirmations

I see all things in clarity.
I see the truth.
I am open to the wisdom within.
I trust my intuition.
I am in tune with an infinite source of guidance.
I can manifest my vision.
I am a channel for Divine Wisdom.

Spiritual Truth

SEEK ONLY THE TRUTH.

 See article: —>  7 Colours of the Rainbow and the Labyrinth

New Age Positive Thinking or Christian Positive Theology

The ‘holy spirit’ gave Retha some principles to live by that sound fantastic and somewhat biblical, but if you are practicing these principles by a ‘spirit’ other than the Holy Spirit of the Bible then everything falls to naught.  The first principle Retha speaks about to live an ‘abundant life’ is to defeat fear.

She says, “Remember fear opposed love as evil opposes Good.” pg 89  and in order to “overcome every fear, you have to fight every negative thought tooth and nail, because these thoughts are from your enemy who wants to steal your faith and joy.”  ..  “Read scripture that affirms this and think positively.” pg 90

This is called Positive theology and is nothing but hyper enthusiasm and was born from the occult writer Rhonda Byrne who wrote The Secret.  The Secret, is based around the “law of attraction” aka Karma, and states that somebody can have anything he wants, i.e., have an abundant life.  Positive theology is based on the premise that God wants us to be abundantly wealthy and that anything we want can be ours as long as we think positively and chuck away those negative thoughts. Joel Osteen said: “Someday I’ll earn more money and won’t have to worry about how to pay my bills. . . . God wants to increase you financially. . . Even if you come from an extremely successful family, God still wants you to go further” (Your Best Life Now).  It’s all about the the law of attraction New Age-style disguised for a Christian audience.

Nigerian Pastor (Daniel Ekechukwu) supposedly raised from the dead: The Lazarus Phenomenon

Retha says, “In this film, the pastor testified that he was dead for four days before God resurrected him.  During the time he too was in heaven.  However his heart was unforgiving, he would have ended up in hell, he says, if God hadn’t given him a second chance.  When I heard this, I thought, “Lord, how can this be? This man is a pastor!” “That does doesn’t matter,” came the reply. “I’m not interested in the works of man.  No one who harbors bitterness in his heart will enter into the kingdom of God, because God is love.” pg 99

We are going to deal with this in two sections,

A) Retha McPherson is again saying you have to be totally and utterly sinless to enter heaven, that means NO ONE will enter heaven according to her god.  But let’s analyse this quickly: What about her god’s so called blood covenant that supposedly covers ones sins? It would appear her god is telling lies, his blood either covers her sins or it does not.   I have explained above how Jesus Christ blood covering works.  When you are born again, you become part of the Bride.  When you sin you do not become unsaved and then when you ask for forgiveness you become saved again.  You are born again once, you name is written into the Lambs book of life once, and your name is not removed.  As a Christian you will remain sinful, you will never be perfect or blemish free  and totally righteous (one earth) as Retha thinks she can be.  The big difference with genuine Christians is that we are forgiven, Jesus forgives us out sins, past, present and future.  As a Christian we come to hate sin, we despise it, (BECAUSE of the Holy Spirit ABIDING in us) and we want to live a holy life as best as possible, that when we do sin, the Holy Spirit chastises us until we repent.

B) Now regarding this Nigerian pastor, as usual…

Daniel Ekechukwu, pastor of Power Chapel Evangelical Church in Onitsha Nigeria, claims to have returned to life in December 2001, after being dead for more than 42 hours. His case has become a cause clbre among evangelical Christians, and was even touted on national TV by televangelist Pat Robertson. Others – including some Christian groups – deride the story as a hoax. See this article for the truth: —>  http://www.helium.com/items/506673-the-truth-about-the-resurrection-of-daniel-ekechukwu

As I said before NO ONE has been raised from the dead since as only the Apostles/disciples commissioned by Jesus Christ himself where able to raise people from the dead and they are dead now as well.  Anyone who claims so is lying.

Retha’s message of salvation:

Retha McPherson says, “If you want to be filled with the Holy Spirit you have to empty out your heart; throw out all your agendas, your dreams, needs and plans.  Get rid of your own stubborn will.  Once you’ve emptied yourself of yourself in this way.  God’s spirit will fill you completely and equip you for whatever He wants to accomplish through you.” pg 134

That’s incredible.  Retha’s message fits perfectly with the way of Contemplative spirituality where you are to empty your mind, throw your thoughts out the window, disengage yourself from yourself and ultimately become a zombie.  This is NOT how you get saved.  This is New Age occultism.

Let’s see if Retha’s salvation message matches what the bible says.  Spot the difference…not that difficult really.

How do you get saved:

Jesus says you must be born again. Jesus said to Nicodemus, “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again..” (John 3:7)  In the Bible, God gives us the plan of how to be born again which means to be saved. His plan is simple!  First, you must realise you are a sinner. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).  Because you are a sinner, you are condemned to die, this includes eternal separation from God in Hell. “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ” (Romans 6:23) and    “… it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27).

But God loved you so much he gave his only begotten Son, Jesus Chris, to bear your sin on the cross and die in your place. ” For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).    Jesus had to shed his blood and die. “For the life of the flesh is in the blood” (Leviticus 17:11)  and “And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. ” (Hebrews 9:22).

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).  Although we cannot understand how, God said my sins and your sins were laid upon Jesus and he died in our place. He became our substitute. It is true. God cannot lie.  “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:” (Acts 17:30).   This repentance is a change of mind that agrees with God that one is a sinner, and also agrees with what Jesus did for us on the cross.

In Acts 16:30-31, the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas: “… Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved… .”  Simply believe on him as the one who bore your sin, died in your place, was buried, and whom God resurrected 3 days later.  His resurrection powerfully assures that the believer can claim everlasting life when Jesus is received as Saviour.   “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name” (John 1:12).  “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13).

Whosoever includes you. Shall be saved means not maybe, nor can, but shall be saved.  Surely, you realise you are a sinner. Right now, wherever you are, repenting, lift your heart to God in prayer.  In Luke 18:13, a sinner prayed: “God be merciful to me a sinner.”

Just pray:

“Heavenly Father, I acknowledged that I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when he died on the cross. I believe his shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection were for me. I now receive you Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour. Please forgive me of my sins, and I thank you for the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because of your merciful grace. Amen.”

Just take God at his word and claim his salvation by faith. Believe, and you will be saved. No church, no lodge, no good works can save you. Remember, God does the saving. All of it!  God’s simple plan of salvation is: You are a sinner. Therefore, unless you believe on Jesus who died in your place, you will spend eternity in Hell. If you believe on him as your crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, you receive forgiveness for all of your sins and his gift of eternal salvation by faith.

You say, “Surely, it cannot be that simple.” Yes, that simple! It is scriptural. It is God’s plan. Believe on Jesus and receive him as Saviour today.  If his plan is not perfectly clear, read this over and over, without laying it down until you understand it. Your soul is worth more than all the world.  “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (Mark 8:36).

Be sure you are saved. If you lose your soul, you miss Heaven and lose all. Please! Let God save you this very moment.  God’s power will save you, keep you saved. “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it” (1 Corinthians 10:13).

Do not trust your feelings. They change. Stand on God’s promises. They never change. 3 things help with spiritual growth:

  1. Praying – that is you talking to God.
  2. Reading/Studying your Bible – that is God talking to you.
  3. And tell others about your new life in Jesus Christ.

You should be baptised in obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ, as a public testimony of your salvation, and then try unite with a Bible-believing church without delay so they can help you in your young Christian walk. “Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord …” (2 Timothy 1:8).

“Whosoever therefore shall confess [testify of] me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 10:32).

John 3:16, 1 Peter 2:24, Isaiah 53:6, James 1:15, Romans 10:9-10, Ephesians 2:8-9, Proverbs 27:1, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, John 10:27-31, 1 John 5:13

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References:

  • “A Message from God, A 12-year old boy’s experience in heaven”, Retha and Aldo McPherson, Copyright © 2007 McPherson House.

Note:

  • DTW/WAP obtained written permission from Retha McPherson Publishers to quote this book.
  • This article is © copyright, please do not copy this article. You can link to this article.

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43 comments to Retha McPherson’s Message from Another God – (Part 2)

  • Sharon

    Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

  • Rethal Conkle

    This is a great article. We hear so much today of people going to heaven and coming back. I’ve always had doubts about their experiences. This answers a lot of question and I shared it on a couple of fb groups I belong to.

  • Ingrid

    Rethal Conkle wrote:

    This is a great article. We hear so much today of people going to heaven and coming back. I’ve always had doubts about their experiences. This answers a lot of question and I shared it on a couple of fb groups I belong to.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Thanks Ingrid!!

  • Carolyn

    Debs, an impressive expose of mysticism at it’s finest. Well done!! Many things registered truth as I read through each point you made but the thing that stood out was how bit by bit, they were led to the place of anti-christ…where Aldo took the place of Christ. Contemplative and Christianized witchcraft rituals and mantras steadily and surely replaced the gospel and then Christ was replaced by Aldo. Wow, what a journey.

    Quote: “Aldo says, “I will lead those who are lost out of their despair under the Cloud, Just like Moses did.” pg 93

    This is an incredible statement. 1) Aldo is saying he is replacing Jesus Christ and will lead people out of their despair to God 2) Aldo is referring to the OT and Moses – thereby placing himself under the law and all who believe his nonsense under law. 3) Aldo is not getting his information from God, but from Satan, and this Cloud he is speaking about is actually the Cloud of Unknowning. Aldo wants to lead people into Contemplative spirituality.”

    Note to Debs and Tom: I haven’t been active on the site for awhile, but congrats on teaming up with Watch and Pray….good move!

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Carolyn

    Your’re back! Yay! :)))

  • Debs, you just never cease to amaze me. I should expect it by now. But I don’t. What an excellent piece. Detailed but to the point–as always. I just want to go over this again and again. It is so insightful. My only complaint is: it is keeping me from work I’ve to catch up on! Ah well, back to another perusal.
    I was about to say, “Keep up the good work.” Not much point when you keep excelling yourself to put Jesus first.
    Thanks again. May God keep inspiring you. (Why do I know that He will?!)

  • Andrew, Answering Thomas...

    Dear Thomas, answering your question on Matthew 12:32, is one of the easiest questions to answer! I’m very surprised that you could not figure it out yourself.
    The answer is short and sweet, “The Son of man is subordinate to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit being a manifistation of Almighty God,” Son of man means the fleshly body. If you can’t understand this I suggest you Ask God to reveal it to you.

  • Carolyn

    Debs…yup. da fly is back. Who can resist all the refreshing honesty on DTW and yer quick wit? Seriously, though, I could not have remained a fly on the wall for this book review even if I had wanted to. For some reason, the Holy Spirit was witnessing truth all the way through. Very, VERY insightful! *exclamation mark*

  • And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Matthew 12:32)

    According to your rendering the above verse should read as follows:

    And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man (a mode of the Holy Spirit who is a manifestation of Almighty God, who IS Jesus Christ), it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost (who is a manifestation of Almighty God, who IS Jesus Christ), it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
    (Matthew 12:32)

    Now, please tell me who it is that warrants an anathema when you speak out against Him – Jesus Christ in the flesh who is Almighty God or the Holy Ghost who is supposedly a manifestation of Almighty God (Jesus Christ)? Your view of God usually leads to this kind of bizarre interpretations of Scripture. I think it is you who can’t understand. Perhaps you are the one who should ask God to reveal it to you.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Martin

    Sorry Martin! But I am sure you will catch up :) God Bless you!

  • Reinhardt

    The critics of the day also said: “Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.” Makes you think!!

  • Yes, and He also warned against false teachers and false teachings. “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” (Mat 24:4-5). It should make you think.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Reinhard

    >>The critics of the day also said: “Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.” Makes you think!!

    Yes it does make you think when you understand the scripture correctly.

    Here Jesus is accused of sitting with sinners, not false teachers preaching a false gospel. But let me give you a little bible lesson.

    Matthew 11:16-19
    16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like to children sitting in the markets, and calling to their fellows, 17 And saying, We have piped to you, and you have not danced; we have mourned to you, and you have not lamented. 18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a devil. 19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a drunkard, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

    Jesus said, “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” It is so easy to hear with the ear but fail to receive the truth in the heart.
    Here Jesus show about a contrast between John’s ministry and His own, and although there is big difference between the two, there is very little response to either one
    Jesus says, “But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented. For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

    “Ye have not danced; ye have not lamented.” So it was like it was neither a wedding or a funeral, it was all the same emotions to the people. There was no response to either John’s ministry or Jesus’ ministry. The gospel made no effect on the great majority of the people to repent.

    You see, “John came neither eating nor drinking.” John was a man of the wilderness, he denied himself all ordinary comforts. But they declared he was demonic.
    Jesus they declared, “A man gluttonous, and a winebibber.” Jesus was a Man of the people. He moved freely among sinners and ate with them at their feasts. All they could accuse him of was eating and drinking too much.

    Are you one of those that hear with the ear but fail to receive the truth in the heart?

  • Reinhardt

    To Thomas and Deborah: I learned a valuable lesson from a friend of mine. He said: “I would rather make the mistake and call a devil an angel, than to make the mistake and one day find out i called an angel a devil” Maybe its worth thinking about.

  • Reinhardt wrote:

    To Thomas and Deborah: I learned a valuable lesson from a friend of mine. He said: “I would rather make the mistake and call a devil an angel, than to make the mistake and one day find out i called an angel a devil” Maybe its worth thinking about.

    I wouldn’t do that if I were you because it is very dangerous.

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isa 5:20)

  • Sharon

    This story of her son and herself is a bunch of Demonic Balony or Bologna how ever one wishes to spell it. She hears satan literally talk to her and God does too. My granddaughters wouldn’t even fall for such as this.

    How any one with half a mind would fall for this false prophetess is beyond me.

    Wolf hunters….the wolves are getting loonier and more dangerous. Read the Word, know the word and live the word.

    It is terrible how she is using her son and doesn’t recognize the spirit, unholy spirit that is attacking them.

  • Redeemed

    Reinhardt, your “valuable lesson” is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that we are to discern good from evil and not to refrain from doing so. The Bible does not deal in man-made platitudes, but rather in Spirit-filled truth.

  • Reinhardt

    That’s your problem. You are not discerning good from evil and holding to that which is good.

  • Reinhardt

    To Thomas & Redeemed: I agree fully in what you say. I also know we are all human and make mistakes.The question i have to answer is: One day when i stand before the King of Kings and you were right about the McPherson’s and i was wrong,will i be denied excess to Heaven? The question you have to answer if i was right and you were wrong, where would that leave you?

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Reinhart

    No you don’t fully agree in what they say because if you fully agreed you would be on our side against Retha and Aldo McPherson, not for them. Thomas said, “That’s your problem. You are not discerning good from evil and holding to that which is good.” Retha preaches an evil doctrine and you are fighting in favour of it, and proclaiming it to be good.

    Are you agreeing with us? that her doctrine she preaches is now evil? what makes you think this all of a sudden?

    >> The question i have to answer is: One day when i stand before the King of Kings and you were right about the McPherson’s and i was wrong,will i be denied excess to Heaven?

    This is what the bible says about people like Retha and the people she leads down another path:

    Matthew 7:21-23 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    >> The question you have to answer if i was right and you were wrong, where would that leave you?

    We are right because it can be proven against scripture. Ask us any question Reinhardt about Retha and her false doctrine and we can PROVE FROM THE BIBLE that it is false. You on the other hand can’t prove one bit that it is correct.

    And we all make mistakes (it’s called sin) but if we go to Jesus and ask forgiveness Jesus forgives us.

    1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    If we don’t repent:

    Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

  • Reinhardt wrote:

    I also know we are all human and make mistakes.

    Jesus never allowed “mistakes” as an excuse to validate false teaching and doctrines. He said that we should take heed that no one deceives you (Matthew 24:4). It is an emphatic command and we must obey.

  • Redeemed

    Reinhardt, apparently you do not have a basic understanding of what salvation is. I suggest you go back to square one and get that straight.
    That is much more important than the issue at hand.

    You posed the question that if you were wrong about the people in question would you be denied access to heaven.

    Reinhardt, that says that you do not understand what gives you access to heaven. This is serious and you need to be sure of your salvation. Read the articles at the top of the page on this site entitled “Charge That to My Account”. You will then understand how to be truly saved. Then you will have clarity on issues like this as well. I pray the Lord will reveal the plan of salvation to you.

  • Christ warned us to NOT be deceived many times. Mt. 24 He warned that false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. The book “Message from God” falls into this category of deception. It is NO coincidence that these types of books are popping up like mushrooms lately. It is all part of the enemy’s delusion to snare those who do not know the Bible or who do not have the gift of discerning of spirits. Yahweh says what He means and means what He says! Only Paul and John had experiences of being in Heaven and Paul says that when he visited the third Heaven he saw and heard things that he was NOT to speak of! And in Revelation, John didn’t reveal anything like what Retha states in her book. And there is a warning that if anyone ADDS or TAKES away from what is stated in Revelation, they will lose their place in the Book of Life. We are also told that Yahweh has things for us that we can’t even begin to imagine! Also, what is the purpose of this book? Hebrews 1:2 states that in these last days Yahweh has spoken to us by His Son, Who is the Word made flesh! We have His Word that Christ said is truth.(JN.17:17) So what is the purpose of books like this one? Sid Roth had Retha on his show “It’s Supernatural.” BUT, supernatural doesn’t mean it always refers to things of God! There are all sorts of spirits, demons, angels and other things in the spirit realm. So I encourage each of you to not accept anything that is NOT in the Word of God! Satan is a deceiver and counterfeiter and is able to present his deceptions in ways that appear to be of God! So to quote Christ: DO NOT BE DECEIVED!!!!

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Thanks Jojean

  • Frans

    Amazingly, I only recently heard about Retha’s ministry and suddenly I’m hearing about it a lot. Don’t know how I missed this one. The things I heard immediately made me concerned for my friends who follow her teachings. The red flags immediately went up when they told me about Aldo’s frequent heavenly visits and messages from God, etc. Last night I went to the website and read some of Retah’s newsletters. Aldo gets instructions directly from Wisdom. I’m not sure who this Wisdom is supposed to be, an Angel or the HS, but I happened on your site today and saw an article you published about another New Age ministry who also speaks to “Wisdom.” I made some enquiries from a very solid recognised ministry as to what they know about Retah and they confirmed all my concerns. Your site was a second confirmation. Add to this that Retah’s appearance fee is a minimum of R15 000 and as much as R60 000 for a weekend and you have to ask yourself why on Earth would anybody fall for that? What happened to peddling the Word of God for profit?

    However, I want to add one caveat to this, in response to your article, especially part 1. Not everything addressed is as cut and dried as analyzed. In what I’ve read so far, a lot of what Retha says is basically correct and even Scriptural. Therein lies the biggest danger. Satan doesn’t deceive us through something that is a 100% lie. He does so by something that is a mixture of truth and error. In the words of Mary Poppins: “A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down.” Here’s the thing though, people feign over the messages God revealed through these anointed ones, but as you pointed out if you actually read the messages there is NOTHING of substance there or that you could not have read in the Bible yourself. “Jesus is Alive.” That’s the message? Okey dokey. “Jesus says He’s coming very, very, very soon.” Wow, that’s great to know. Oh wait, I know that “for the Bible tells me so.”

    I’m not sure I agree with your understanding though of some of the concepts. Offering ourselves as a living sacrifice is not unbiblical (Romans 12). We also die daily, take up our cross, lose our lives for His sake and love not our lives unto death. What better illustration do we have of this than the persecuted church, or those who answer God’s call to the unreached of this world? Did I misunderstand what you meant? Do you not also believe that our families belong to Him?

    As for raising the dead, here I am qualified to comment, specifically about the movie mentioned “The Lazarus Phenomenon,” which featured the story of Daniel Ekechukwu, as I was one of the filmmakers. During the making of the movie we, the Director and I, got seriously concerned about the authenticity of the story and the theological concepts Daniel Eke proposed. Our encounters with the man also gave us some serious reason for concern. Even Reinhard Bonke’s people wouldn’t allow him to testify of his NDE experience. We eventually asked for it to be left out of the final movie, but the Producer refused. So if Retah based any spiritual understanding on his story, it would be another reason for concern.

  • Frans

    Retha McPherson said, “I had to live through a terrible tragedy and huge suffering, before I was finally willing to sacrifice everything, including my son to God.” pg 5

    and again Retha thinks that we lay our lives down as a living sacrifice to Jesus, she says.

    “Jesus is coming for a spotless Bride: those who will lay down their lives as a living sacrifice to Him.” pg 6

    Nowhere in the Bible are we told to sacrifice our families. We are told not to love them more than God. Jesus uses the word “hate” in Luke 14:26 in a comparative way. Your love for God compared to your love for your wife, children, brethren and sisters should be so intense that your love for your own family should seem like hatred. Let me give you an example. A young woman received the calling to become a missionary in a far country. Her mother was not very happy about it and said to her – “over my dead body.” It was over her dead body. She died and the rest of the family accused the young women that she hated her mom and that it had killed her. Yet she obeyed God and went on to do his will as a missionary.

    The only place we are told to sacrifice something is in Romans 12:1 but there it is not a sacrifice of our families but of our bodies as a living sacrifice. The young women who obeyed God rather than her mother, sacrificed her body (not her mother) as a living sacrifice because she loved God more than her mother.

  • Frans

    Hmm. Thank you for that clarification. I will study up on that a bit. As a man who loves the Lord and who longs to live my life for Him, I can imagine (by His strength, not my own) paying the price of martyrdom if it came to that, but it is harder for me to imagine allowing my family to be martyred and tortured for our faith. (Again, only by His strength and Grace could such a thing be possible). Yet many faithful believers through the ages have done exactly that. Were they wrong in sacrificing their families? Would it at that point have been more Biblical to deny Jesus and save their families? I’m not in any way defending R McP’s doctrines or teaching. I’m merely questioning some of the specific points of contention in the article. Let’s leave aside the esoteric doctrines espoused by these “ministries,” e.g. Retah’s take on the Samuel story, but is Hanna’s dedication of Samuel to God not a true Biblical example of a loved one being given to God? Other examples would be Moses, John the Baptist, Samson and of course Jesus.

  • Frans

    I really think you misunderstand. The command is to sacrifice yourself as a living sacrifice to God. You cannot sacrifice anyone of your family members. They must do it themselves personally. Even when they are martyred it is not you who are sacrificing them. Some of them might deny Jesus and opt to live instead of dying for Him. That would not be your decision but their own. So, as you see, it is always the individual’s own choice to either present himself a living sacrifice to God and if necessary to be martyred.

  • Frans

    Thomas Lessing, I do understand, and I agree it is a personal choice to give oneself as a living sacrifice. However, I do also see some Biblical precedent, as I mentioned before, of giving another as a “living sacrifice.” The examples I cited was where children were concerned, e.g. Samuel, John the Baptist, etc. Hanna made the choice for Samuel. Ultimately he could’ve rejected the choice when he was at an age of discernment and understanding. The same goes for Isaac, who scholars believe was already a young adult when Abraham put him on the altar (thus making it an even more powerful foreshadowing of Jesus willingly laying down His life). But the challenge was to Abraham. Did He trust God to fulfill His covenant? Yes, even if it meant raising his son from the dead. (In the context of this article, Retah McP might argue Aldo had the right to reject being given to God, but he accepted it).

    Anyway, it’s not worth arguing about semantics. The point I was actually trying to make is that there’s enough obvious error in this ministry, like the angelic visitations, spurious prophecies, visions, etc. that nitpicking on things that are more open to interpretation and doctrinal bias weakens the article as a whole. Take away all the Supernatural encounters and elements of the story then some (I emphasise “some”) of the quotes you cited from her book suddenly becomes less controversial. I’m really glad I read through the whole article as it provided some valuable insight, but in the early reading I felt that the analysis was a bit light-weight and I was tempted to click away. I’m really sorry if this offends you and I know you will probably disagree, and that’s fine, but applying some just weights and measures will help in the credibility of what you’re trying to achieve. Jesus gives us an excellent example in the letters to the churches of Revelation, e.g. I know your good works, but I have this against you…

    Bless you as you keep contending for the faith.

  • Anyway, it’s not worth arguing about semantics.

    I am not arguing. Are you?

    Elizabeth did not sacrifice or even dedicate her son John. God Himself called him from his mother’s womb to be Christ’s forerunner. Hannah dedicated her son Samuel to God but as you’ve said he himself had to become willing to dedicate himself when he as a boy reached the age of accountability.

    If Elizabeth and Hannah sacrificed their two boys to God then there is nothing wrong in Retha’s sacrificing her son to God. If they could do it, she can do it as well. However, Retha’s boy seems to be merely a pawn and a very sturdy stepping stone to spread her heresies. She is merely using (abusing) him to give her teachings credibility. Neither Elizabeth nor Hannah did anything of the kind. I am not trying to belabor the point; I am merely saying that we should be very careful when we say things. It could very well give those who spread lies some credibility and render the things they say less controversial and you wouldn’t want to do that, would you?

    What makes you think I am offended? I am not offended. Why would I be offended when you yourself blessed me and acknowledged that I am contending for the faith? Is contending for the faith equal to being offended? I am growing tired of people who resort to ad hominem attacks when I try to answer them in a civilized way. I must, however, thank you because your ad hominem accusations that I am arguing and that I am offended, is far more lenient than some of the ad hominem attacks of some of the people on this site.

    Are you suggesting that Jesus’ exhortations in Revelations “I know your good works, but I have this against you . . .” puts a stamp of approval on Retha McPherson’s tomfooleries?

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Frans

    It’s clear you don’t understand the difference between Retha’s version of sacrificing and the biblical sacrificing. Please read the article(s) again. And if you don’t understand what I am saying, research further to find out – don’t tell me I am wrong and analysed her incorrectly.

  • Frans

    No, I’m not suggesting “that Jesus’ exhortations in Revelations “I know your good works, but I have this against you . . .” puts a stamp of approval on Retha McPherson’s tomfooleries.” I believe I’ve made it clear enough in my posts that I agree that her ministry is a false one. I also believe I’ve communicated my other points clearly enough. I’ll leave it at that.

  • Frans wrote

    No, I’m not suggesting “that Jesus’ exhortations in Revelations “I know your good works, but I have this against you . . .” puts a stamp of approval on Retha McPherson’s tomfooleries.” I believe I’ve made it clear enough in my posts that I agree that her ministry is a false one. I also believe I’ve communicated my other points clearly enough. I’ll leave it at that.

    Why mention it then if it has no bearing on our discussion?

  • William bob

    It’s hard to believe how much you ” know” but are so doubting. Explain THIS …11″Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12″Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13″Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.… If We as believers can do GREATER works than Christ ( We raised Lazarus from they dead.. Where do you get the License to tell us that ” only the Disciples” could do such miracles? I truly Believe doubters such as yourself are An IMPEDIMENT, aSTUMBLING BLOCK to those who would seek Christ. Don’t bother writing Back. REPENT first, that you should place yourself in such authority. Amen.

  • William bob

    That’s Supposed to be ” WHO raised Lazarus from the dead “

  • William bob,

    What are the greater works He referred to?

  • anton

    Hi Deborah / People
    Reading all the mails and that people are concerned about this minisrty ….glad about the fact that people are looking into the Word of God to find truth. . Retha is “bowling everybody out” in the Paarl district / W/Cape .

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    William Bob

    I am writing back. I laugh at your comment.

  • Anthony

    An excellent article Deborah, thanks you so much :).

    it seems many Jesus are popping out everywhere on earth, here we have another person claiming to be talking directly to Jesus, Vassula Ryden from TLG ” http://www.tlig.org/ ” and there is another “Deborah ” in Denmark writing this article exposing the darker side of TLG ” http://www.pseudomystica.info/ingerliseprov3.htm “..

    There is only ONE God , the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, he says, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. ” it is very clear that only through Jesus we come to the father ”

    one more thing, no one can receive the holy spirit if he does not first repent, accept Jesus as God and saviour and only then the holy spirit will start his work in this person.

    and also in john 3:16, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life..

  • Ilze

    This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God – Lord God Jehovah. She loves the Lord Jesus Christ – and Ruach Hakodesh. She lives a holy life. May our Lord Jesus Christ remove the veils from your eyes and heart.

  • Ilze,

    I suggest that you make doubly sure that you are following the true Jesus of the Bible and not another Jesus.

    I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-8)

  • John Andrews UK/Ireland

    Ilze wrote:

    This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God – Lord God Jehovah. She loves the Lord Jesus Christ – and Ruach Hakodesh. She lives a holy life.

    The fact that Retha McPherson’s whole ministry and testimony is based on a lie doesn’t bother you? No one has the ability to travel back and forth between heaven and earth. Only Jesus is able to according to the Bible. John 3:12-14 (NKJV)

    12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

    Thus you prefer to say “she lives a holy life” when she blatantly bases her ministry on a lie that you would like to believe?

    2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears

    Think on the verses above and then still stand your ground on Retha McPherson? – not possible, unless one is deceived.

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