Grant…you have answered this well…true love is caring for the well-being of people especially in the area of the soul…sometimes tough love is necessary. Sadly the demonic spirits in the world to-day play on the emotions of sensitive people today and confuse the true meaning of Godly love.

Grant

What I also wanted to mention was; where is the love in keeping quiet – not for Ivin’s sake but for the sake of the ‘youth’ he is leading to hell. How many people’s lives has he affected with his nonsense. I pray not many. Everyone in this world is so ‘love’ orientated yet are as selfish as can be and could not care about the many unseen victims but will take a stand for the one committing wrong. Unbelievable. Well I suppose that’s what an anti-Christ world is all about – pat on the head for the criminal and a slap on the wrist of the victims.

I would have loved to have heard Paul rebuking people. Everyone on the internet would be hiding under their beds shivering.

Adannaya

It is not acting in love if you allow someone to continue to follow a path which leads to destruction, while remaining silent.

I am a parent and I would certainly be accused of not loving my children, if I did not correct them when they went off the path. Very often the kids would be very cross with me for spoiling their fun, but not long thereafter they come to realize that, if I hadn’t acted firmly and with authority, they could have been irreparably harmed.

By speaking out for the Truth in a Biblical way, by prayerfully trying to show others error by providing Biblical rebuttal, does not win popularity contests for me or any of the regular writers on this blog. By giving many hours, FREELY, in defense of the true Gospel, should indicate caring concerns.

If you consider some of the responses and abuse of the Gospel of Jesus on this blog from those who follow false gods and false gospels, it seems clear that the continued response from Discerning The World is done in love.

Love is not always a whole lot of pretty little words and gentle answers. All the opponents to the Gospel of Jesus are not babies and Satan certainly uses extreme violence, even to the point of death. Reading through the Apostles Paul’s letters will show that he certainly was no softy in his approach to those who defied Christ.

You could accuse the writers here of not acting in love if they kept silent about false teachers and false gods. It is precisely because they are applying Biblical standards that they are acting with love.

There are not many paths or great highways to God, even though the emergent church will tell you it is really easy. There is only one path: Jesus and the narrow, hard way. Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Don’t you think it is important to get that message to the lost as a matter of extreme urgency ?

It seems almost pointless talking to someone like Ivin, who on the one hand claims to have an intention to serve Jesus Christ, but on the other hand refuses to apply Christian principles.

He displays an inability or unwillingness to accept Biblical doctrine. Everything makes him smile, but he refuses Biblical edification.

It is certainly no joke that he is in a position to influence young people and have some, who could be saved by hearing the true Gospel, lost to an emergent god.

Adannya

Ag, I am tired of answering the same comments over and over again. If you continue to read my website you will find the answer to your question in the comments section. In the meantime we all wait in anticipation for Ivin’s story as he said he would provide us with an answer as to why his prophecy failed dismally. In doing so we hope that he wakes up to what has happened to him and comes to true salvation in the One and only living God through His Son Jesus Christ.

All this arguing! ? what if all of you are being deceived?  nowhere do I read that we should be spending our time throwing rocks at each other! what happened to covering in love? I have learned that the ones that always think THEY are right have a religeous spirit. I believe in sound biblical truth but NOWHERE that false prophets should be stoned ridiculed and put down by the “biblical prophets”, exposed yes, not analysed and torn to peaces, but given a chance to turn to truth in love.  This whole thing sadens me, I can not see Jesus reading this and going..well done my good and faithfull servants..thats exactly what I would have done??? No, He is Love and that is our greatest weapon, especially in the times to come. How are we going to love our enemies!!!!!!!!! if we cant love someone who is trying so hard and getting it wrong!!!!!  I believe your hearts are right and what you say is right, but be very very carefull to condemn others, especially if you believe they are doing a good job doing it to themselves!! Yours should be the hand strentching out to pull him out the sinkins sand, not the foot on his head pushing him further away from the truth.

Valerie

It is. That’s the scary part.

The more I hear about the dominionist, the more I see the possibility that the Beast System of Revelation could be the apostate church. Every knee will bow right?

Ivin

No problem. You have time to come up with a good story.

Deborah, as you might know, I am on sabbatical and ask kindly that we could continue when I am released. In the meantime let all of us commit this matter to prayer. Love
Ivin.